@rjejr As much as I hope they do make Switch their sole platform (more games on it for me) I don't think they'll do that. So, there is hope for dual screen gameplay, just not on the console side of the equation. And let's be honest, you spent $350 because you felt it was worth it, as did I, and it turned out to be a bad investment. Life is full of bad investments.
@rjejr " Oops, I forgot, no dual screen play for Switch and Wii U has been abandoned after only 4 years, never-mind. "
Come on, as much as I liked the Wii U, it didn't sell well. We all know it, and it's a shame Nintendo has to change things up. But the Switch appeals to me.
Regardless, this game does look like it could be good, although it looks like it's very zoomed out.
@rjejr I'm pretty much like you, at first I didn't think the idea of upgrades for consoles made sense. Then I considered the time of release between XOne and Scorpio, and seeing the Switch further cemented me being okay with it. Time will tell if it comes true, although I like your idea of not having to buy a whole new unit.
Honestly, I see Switch being a console with a Scorpio or "Pro" like upgrade down the line. Iwata said Nintendo wanted to do something like smartphones with its future devices, and I can see that coming true with Switch. Pricing and timing will be a factor, of course. Scorpio seems like it will be a worthy upgrade because it will be long enough after initial launch for the product to seem worthwhile. Hopefully Switch gets to the point where Nintendo can produce upgrades because that would be an awesome way to leverage it.
@Hotfusion Jokes aside, people are getting a little crazy about this. Nintendo needs to blow us away, but acting like it will ultimately disappoint us is unfair at this juncture.
So we already know that the "something special" is not NX by now. I doubt we'll hear about it next week, although I'm sure Hideki Kamiya would tell us otherwise if he had anything to do with Nintendo's new system.
@yomanation Honestly, they have to get more consistent and up-to-date software to improve. I say that because they have plenty of games on eShop, but often the games release on Steam much sooner, giving many people less of a reason to purchase those games on Nintendo devices. And yes, even the bundles could be better, but again, a higher volume would help alleviate that issue. Notice I am making no excuses for Nintendo, just stating the current situation...
I really want them to show us what NX really is. Since the NX was mentioned, I've said it was far too soon. Then again, Iwata and Nintendo were in between a rock and a hard place at that point so the former had no choice but to announce the code name.
@yomanation I purposely buy Indie and the (few) third-party games available on Wii U since it shows that there are users who want to play those games on Nintendo devices. People who buy those games elsewhere are entitled to do so, but that is my stance on Indies and third-parties, I want to be part of what I feel is the solution so I buy the content I want on Nintendo systems.
@cleveland124 Fair point, I guess I'm greedy with rewards. I know they are an important part of CRM, something Nintendo doesn't seem to appreciate right now. And as for most of the digital content, since they have relatively few third-party offerings, it's virtually impossible for them to compete at the level of PS or Xbox with said rewards.
@yomanation You make very valid points about settling for less. We do not have to settle for less. I'm just saying that on a general level they can't compete for the same market as the other big players. They do need to improve it, how they'll do that exactly isn't very easy. Offering more free games would go a long way, and the humble bundles they had were a good idea for people unlike me (and probably you) who buy pretty much every Indie game at launch anyway. Sadly, it doesn't help people who are truly loyal to Nintendo and its partners. They should just go back to mixing physical and digital rewards like in Club Nintendo. I could have sworn Reggie or some other executive from Nintendo said they would consider physical rewards for My Nintendo members, but I could also be remembering that wrong, lol.
@yomanation Nintendo is a much smaller company than either Sony or MS, both in terms of people employed and the amount of money they earn. Plus, they lack the same resources as either competitor. If you think Nintendo targeting casuals during the Wii era was an accident, you're wrong. They assumed they could compete directly with Sony and MS in the current generation, which was wrong. If they could have, Wii U would not be where it is today.
Okay, anyone who thinks Nintendo has the capacity to offer the same caliber of rewards as Sony or MS is delusional. Now that that's out of the way, Nintendo could still improve their customer loyalty program substantially. I think most people are missing the point that they're trying to get people to purchase more third-party content because their rewards are currently only first party offerings. Either way, it's on Nintendo to emphasize buying third-party games is what they want customers to do. My Nintendo needs to improve, and hopefully when NX launches it will follow suit.
@gcunit "999% is probably their best attempt at quantifying an increase from zero sales the week before to 1 sale this week as a percentage." 1 is infinitely more than zero so that would sound better than 999%.
The lack of SteamWorld Heist makes me sad. Hopefully it comes out within the next two weeks, I've been looking forward to playing it on Wii U for some time.
As it stands, if the games are like this, MAYBE Nintendo can convince non-gamers into buying their devices again. Pokemon Go brought in a lot of lapsed fans, hopefully Mario run does the same for Mario and Nintendo devices in general. I remain skeptical, but I could be proven incorrect, and I hope I am dead wrong that I believe it honestly won't benefit their consoles to do this.
Excellent week for Wii U, I've already bought Jotun and never played the Wii Mario soccer game so I'll give it a whirl. Maybe if enough people show interest in it they will put out a few Mario sports titles on NX? I can dream...
@Dislikesfats While Nintendo should do its best to get content on its systems, whenever it does you see fans complaining about lack of features, price, etc. Once the content is available, not purchasing it there only shows third-parties (and Nintendo) that you don't want the content on Nintendo devices. Yes, we do share some of the blame.
You'd think after so many generations of not getting support from publishers, fans would've realized that they should buy the few offerings from those publishers if they want to see more from them. Yes, power is a factor, but nobody wants to take the blame for not supporting third-parties on Nintendo devices. Of course, there could be more in play, but as fans, all we can (and should) do is whenever a third-party multi-platform game from a large publisher comes to NX, maybe we can buy it. You can scream "but we'll get it cheaper/better/with more DLC somewhere else," but the bottom line is that we aren't helping by complaining about third-parties and not supporting them whenever they do finally show support. While they can be incessantly annoying, they still remain relevant, and not buying a multiplatform game for a Nintendo system is just you saying that you don't want them there.
As much as I love this and the idea, Nintendo doesn't care as much about Metroid as Westerners do. They will probably never put the resources they should into projects like this, and it is pretty sad to me. It would be awesome for Nintendo to hire this team and get them to develop a new Metroid for NX.
I don't see why a handheld with close to Xbox One level power is a problem, especially when it'll hook up to your TV. You guys are looking at this the wrong way.
Well, looks pretty good to me, the Paper Mario games were more about humor in my view. The battles look improved compared to Sticker Star, where you couldn't target enemies, which was honestly one of my biggest gripes about that game. Color Splash looks like it will be to Sticker Star as 3D World was to 3D Land, which is fine by me.
And no @Grumblevolcano, it won't be hilarious if Nintendo hasn't revealed NX by then, it'll be bizarre and sad.
As others have pointed out, this news is virtually meaningless unless you're interested in investing in Nintendo. With the likely nosedive shares will take once NX is announced (it has to blow people's expectations away for Nintendo's share prices to stay where they are) this news will likely matter even less. The market's been asking for mobile Nintendo games for 6 years or so, ANY level of success would have been considered massive. In the age of casino capitalism, where people buy and sell shares quickly, don't read too much into this report.
I think some people misunderstand what this news really means. Market value is literally the value of shares out there and nothing of profits, and it is no surprise that the release of an oft-requested franchise going mobile garnered the response it did from the market. Simply put, investors have been asking for Pokemon mobile for a while, and any level of success would've led to improved share value. The market got what it wanted, and it insists that Nintendo's management knows what it is doing as a result. That's literally all this means.
@gatorboi352 "Nintendo of the future should focus on home console work (NX) and mobile."
It's odd that you say the opposite of what most people believe is right for the Big N. What's weirder is I agree with you to an extent.
Hey guys, we have no idea what's going on but we don't want to admit it! And no, I'm not pretending I'm Nintendo right now, I'm speaking literally. Fans have no idea what NX is and I'm okay with that for now.
I just finished reading the update in my email, can't wait for this DLC. On a related note, I should finish the Plague Knight DLC, which is excellent so far. Yacht Club is really making me feel good about my investment.
Honestly, Nintendo should wait until late 2017 to launch NX with all of the news from Sony and MS being confirmed. And no, this has nothing to do with Just Dance...
I can't wait to play the next Zelda on my Wii U. Won't get it on physical on NX (if at all) because the Wii U version will eventually be a collector's item.
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Re: Interview: Learning More About the Adventure in Wii U Exclusive Twisted Fusion
@rjejr As much as I hope they do make Switch their sole platform (more games on it for me) I don't think they'll do that. So, there is hope for dual screen gameplay, just not on the console side of the equation. And let's be honest, you spent $350 because you felt it was worth it, as did I, and it turned out to be a bad investment. Life is full of bad investments.
Re: Interview: Learning More About the Adventure in Wii U Exclusive Twisted Fusion
@rjejr " Oops, I forgot, no dual screen play for Switch and Wii U has been abandoned after only 4 years, never-mind. "
Come on, as much as I liked the Wii U, it didn't sell well. We all know it, and it's a shame Nintendo has to change things up. But the Switch appeals to me.
Regardless, this game does look like it could be good, although it looks like it's very zoomed out.
Re: Talking Point: Imagining a Future Nintendo Switch Budget Spin-Off - A Non-Switching Microconsole
@rjejr I'm pretty much like you, at first I didn't think the idea of upgrades for consoles made sense. Then I considered the time of release between XOne and Scorpio, and seeing the Switch further cemented me being okay with it. Time will tell if it comes true, although I like your idea of not having to buy a whole new unit.
Re: Talking Point: Imagining a Future Nintendo Switch Budget Spin-Off - A Non-Switching Microconsole
Honestly, I see Switch being a console with a Scorpio or "Pro" like upgrade down the line. Iwata said Nintendo wanted to do something like smartphones with its future devices, and I can see that coming true with Switch. Pricing and timing will be a factor, of course. Scorpio seems like it will be a worthy upgrade because it will be long enough after initial launch for the product to seem worthwhile. Hopefully Switch gets to the point where Nintendo can produce upgrades because that would be an awesome way to leverage it.
Re: Nintendo Switch Will Be a Single-Screen Experience
I kind of assumed it was more of a single screen experience. Either way, I was good with both single and dual screen configuration.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Nintendo Switch?
I see the standard trolls are here, as usual.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Nintendo Switch?
My wife saw the trailer and said it looked cool. I did not think she'd care at all, so that's a start for Nintendo.
Re: Random: More Straw Clutching as Gamers Wait for the Nintendo NX
@Hotfusion Jokes aside, people are getting a little crazy about this. Nintendo needs to blow us away, but acting like it will ultimately disappoint us is unfair at this juncture.
Re: Random: Nintendo NX Rumours From French Media and an Analyst Report, While Zelda Williams Fends Off Anxious Fans
So we already know that the "something special" is not NX by now. I doubt we'll hear about it next week, although I'm sure Hideki Kamiya would tell us otherwise if he had anything to do with Nintendo's new system.
Re: Random: More Straw Clutching as Gamers Wait for the Nintendo NX
Let us all blame Nintendo once they announce the new system for not living up to the unrealistic expectations we've set thus far. I can't wait!
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@yomanation Honestly, they have to get more consistent and up-to-date software to improve. I say that because they have plenty of games on eShop, but often the games release on Steam much sooner, giving many people less of a reason to purchase those games on Nintendo devices. And yes, even the bundles could be better, but again, a higher volume would help alleviate that issue. Notice I am making no excuses for Nintendo, just stating the current situation...
Re: Fresh Retail Source Reportedly Reinforces and Outlines New Nintendo NX Rumours
I really want them to show us what NX really is. Since the NX was mentioned, I've said it was far too soon. Then again, Iwata and Nintendo were in between a rock and a hard place at that point so the former had no choice but to announce the code name.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@yomanation I purposely buy Indie and the (few) third-party games available on Wii U since it shows that there are users who want to play those games on Nintendo devices. People who buy those games elsewhere are entitled to do so, but that is my stance on Indies and third-parties, I want to be part of what I feel is the solution so I buy the content I want on Nintendo systems.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@cleveland124 Fair point, I guess I'm greedy with rewards. I know they are an important part of CRM, something Nintendo doesn't seem to appreciate right now. And as for most of the digital content, since they have relatively few third-party offerings, it's virtually impossible for them to compete at the level of PS or Xbox with said rewards.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@yomanation You make very valid points about settling for less. We do not have to settle for less. I'm just saying that on a general level they can't compete for the same market as the other big players. They do need to improve it, how they'll do that exactly isn't very easy. Offering more free games would go a long way, and the humble bundles they had were a good idea for people unlike me (and probably you) who buy pretty much every Indie game at launch anyway. Sadly, it doesn't help people who are truly loyal to Nintendo and its partners. They should just go back to mixing physical and digital rewards like in Club Nintendo. I could have sworn Reggie or some other executive from Nintendo said they would consider physical rewards for My Nintendo members, but I could also be remembering that wrong, lol.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@cleveland124 And so what if they can't make the same sales? If they profit and retain customers, that is all that matters to a business.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@yomanation Nintendo is a much smaller company than either Sony or MS, both in terms of people employed and the amount of money they earn. Plus, they lack the same resources as either competitor. If you think Nintendo targeting casuals during the Wii era was an accident, you're wrong. They assumed they could compete directly with Sony and MS in the current generation, which was wrong. If they could have, Wii U would not be where it is today.
Re: SteamWorld Heist Releases on the Wii U eShop on 20th October in North America
I can't wait, I loved Steamworld Dig and don't have a 3DS to play on, so this game will be awesome on my Wii U!
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
Okay, anyone who thinks Nintendo has the capacity to offer the same caliber of rewards as Sony or MS is delusional. Now that that's out of the way, Nintendo could still improve their customer loyalty program substantially. I think most people are missing the point that they're trying to get people to purchase more third-party content because their rewards are currently only first party offerings. Either way, it's on Nintendo to emphasize buying third-party games is what they want customers to do. My Nintendo needs to improve, and hopefully when NX launches it will follow suit.
Re: Nintendo Selects Release Brings 999% Boost to Super Mario 3D World Sales in the UK
@gcunit "999% is probably their best attempt at quantifying an increase from zero sales the week before to 1 sale this week as a percentage."
1 is infinitely more than zero so that would sound better than 999%.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th September (North America)
The lack of SteamWorld Heist makes me sad. Hopefully it comes out within the next two weeks, I've been looking forward to playing it on Wii U for some time.
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd September (North America)
Severed is pretty awesome so far. It reminds me of Punch-Out!!, Infinity Blade, and Etrian Odyssey in the best way.
Re: Nintendo NX Will "Change The Concept" Of Home Console And Handheld Gaming, Says Pokémon Company President
@Xaessya Actually, the quote for NX is not that it will change the way we'll play games...
"The NX is trying to change the concept of what it means to be a home console device or a hand-held device," is what he said.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
I love it the more you hate it, haters.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Highlights the Allure of a Larger Audience and Reaching Kids With Super Mario Run
As it stands, if the games are like this, MAYBE Nintendo can convince non-gamers into buying their devices again. Pokemon Go brought in a lot of lapsed fans, hopefully Mario run does the same for Mario and Nintendo devices in general. I remain skeptical, but I could be proven incorrect, and I hope I am dead wrong that I believe it honestly won't benefit their consoles to do this.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th September (North America)
Excellent week for Wii U, I've already bought Jotun and never played the Wii Mario soccer game so I'll give it a whirl. Maybe if enough people show interest in it they will put out a few Mario sports titles on NX? I can dream...
Re: Talking Point: The Inevitability of Super Mario Run, Nintendo's Ace for the Mobile Market
Although casuals don't think the way "core gamers" do, I don't see this helping Nintendo hardware sales. Of course, I could be wrong, and I hope I am.
Re: Bethesda Doesn't Rule Out Nintendo NX Support, But "It's Too Early to Say"
@Dislikesfats While Nintendo should do its best to get content on its systems, whenever it does you see fans complaining about lack of features, price, etc. Once the content is available, not purchasing it there only shows third-parties (and Nintendo) that you don't want the content on Nintendo devices. Yes, we do share some of the blame.
Re: Bethesda Doesn't Rule Out Nintendo NX Support, But "It's Too Early to Say"
You'd think after so many generations of not getting support from publishers, fans would've realized that they should buy the few offerings from those publishers if they want to see more from them. Yes, power is a factor, but nobody wants to take the blame for not supporting third-parties on Nintendo devices. Of course, there could be more in play, but as fans, all we can (and should) do is whenever a third-party multi-platform game from a large publisher comes to NX, maybe we can buy it. You can scream "but we'll get it cheaper/better/with more DLC somewhere else," but the bottom line is that we aren't helping by complaining about third-parties and not supporting them whenever they do finally show support. While they can be incessantly annoying, they still remain relevant, and not buying a multiplatform game for a Nintendo system is just you saying that you don't want them there.
Re: Celebrate 30 Years of Metroid With The Fan-Made "AM2R"
As much as I love this and the idea, Nintendo doesn't care as much about Metroid as Westerners do. They will probably never put the resources they should into projects like this, and it is pretty sad to me. It would be awesome for Nintendo to hire this team and get them to develop a new Metroid for NX.
Re: Fun Fact: The Celtic Origins of Epona's Name in The Legend of Zelda
I've known about this for years, my friend thought it was an uninspired way of saying "pony," and I straightened him out.
Re: Talking Point: Considering the Angles of a Portable and Dynamic Nintendo NX
We'll see if any of this is true in a few weeks/months.
Re: Multiple Sources Outline a Portable NX With Detachable Controllers, Including a 'Base Station' for TV
I don't see why a handheld with close to Xbox One level power is a problem, especially when it'll hook up to your TV. You guys are looking at this the wrong way.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
Well, looks pretty good to me, the Paper Mario games were more about humor in my view. The battles look improved compared to Sticker Star, where you couldn't target enemies, which was honestly one of my biggest gripes about that game. Color Splash looks like it will be to Sticker Star as 3D World was to 3D Land, which is fine by me.
And no @Grumblevolcano, it won't be hilarious if Nintendo hasn't revealed NX by then, it'll be bizarre and sad.
Re: Nintendo Is Now More Valuable Than Sony Thanks To Pokémon GO
As others have pointed out, this news is virtually meaningless unless you're interested in investing in Nintendo. With the likely nosedive shares will take once NX is announced (it has to blow people's expectations away for Nintendo's share prices to stay where they are) this news will likely matter even less. The market's been asking for mobile Nintendo games for 6 years or so, ANY level of success would have been considered massive. In the age of casino capitalism, where people buy and sell shares quickly, don't read too much into this report.
Re: Pokémon GO is "Something Very Special" as a Staggering $7 Billion is Added to Nintendo's Company Value
I think some people misunderstand what this news really means. Market value is literally the value of shares out there and nothing of profits, and it is no surprise that the release of an oft-requested franchise going mobile garnered the response it did from the market. Simply put, investors have been asking for Pokemon mobile for a while, and any level of success would've led to improved share value. The market got what it wanted, and it insists that Nintendo's management knows what it is doing as a result. That's literally all this means.
@gatorboi352 "Nintendo of the future should focus on home console work (NX) and mobile."
It's odd that you say the opposite of what most people believe is right for the Big N. What's weirder is I agree with you to an extent.
Re: Nintendo NX Has A Core Idea Which Doesn't Just "Follow Advancements In Technology", Claims Miyamoto
Hey guys, we have no idea what's going on but we don't want to admit it! And no, I'm not pretending I'm Nintendo right now, I'm speaking literally. Fans have no idea what NX is and I'm okay with that for now.
Re: Review: Dual Core (Wii U eShop)
@MeloMan Make sure she likes games as much as you do, heed that advice, friend.
Anyway, this looks like a blast, I love twin-stick shooters.
Re: Yacht Club Games Provides Update on Future Campaigns and Content
I just finished reading the update in my email, can't wait for this DLC. On a related note, I should finish the Plague Knight DLC, which is excellent so far. Yacht Club is really making me feel good about my investment.
Re: Editorial: Mighty No. 9 and High Profile Disappointments Don't Invalidate Crowdfunding
As I've said before, investing is always a risk. Unfortunately for myself and many other backers, this investment probably hasn't paid off.
Anyway, this game will get better with updates and DLC right guys? Right?!
Re: Rumour: French Media Claims Nintendo NX is Set for September Reveal
Hey guys, I know as much about the NX as you do!
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th June (North America)
@rjejr, Oh, you!
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th June (North America)
@rjejr Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE comes out next week, so... it has four games "coming up."
Re: Just Dance 2017 Coming to All "Motion-Control Gaming Platforms", Which Includes Nintendo NX
@PorllM Later in 2017...
Re: Just Dance 2017 Coming to All "Motion-Control Gaming Platforms", Which Includes Nintendo NX
Honestly, Nintendo should wait until late 2017 to launch NX with all of the news from Sony and MS being confirmed. And no, this has nothing to do with Just Dance...
Re: Talking Point: Revealing an Innovative Legend of Zelda at E3 Could Provide a Timely Boost for Nintendo
I can't wait to play the next Zelda on my Wii U. Won't get it on physical on NX (if at all) because the Wii U version will eventually be a collector's item.
Re: The Nintendo@E3 2016 Miiverse Community is Live and Full of Unrealistic Expectations
Um, yeah, not that surprised at the amount of times my face and my palm met reading most of these posts...
Re: Nordic Games is Actually Working on a Wii U Release
Well, that's interesting news. Hopefully it's something good, I liked DS 2 and the first one.
Re: Talking Point: Five Years of eShop Progress Doesn't Mask Nintendo's Next-Gen Challenge
I've never had any issues with eShop, tbh. "Unified accounts" would be nice, I guess. Also, decoupling game saves from downloads would be nice.
Re: Nintendo Announces E3 eShop Discount Plans and Miitomo x The Legend of Zelda Promotion
Not expecting there to be discounts on things I don't own, but it's cool they're trying to rope in some more people to buy things I've already bought.