Ah, it's that time, dear readers. With E3 having passed and Nintendo (and many others) having a quiet spell, it's the period of rumours, sources and secret handshakes. Sizeable French outlet Gameblog is the latest to pitch in with its reports on the NX - as is always the case these should be treated with plenty of salt and a healthy level of scepticism.
We'll summarise the key points below, as we interpret the source article:
- NX was originally planned for a November release, but was pushed back
- Power-wise (that old chestnut) it's being related again to the upcoming PS4K / PlayStation Neo. This comparison has been made in the past, and has also been denied by others.
- Some third-party exclusives are reportedly in the works, by the likes of Capcom and Square Enix. The delay may be to await projects like these.
- Skyward Sword is claimed to be getting the remaster treatment, while major franchises like Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. are naturally in the works.
- In terms of the operating system Android is mentioned as being related, which again has been claimed and denied in the past. There's talk of support for up to eight controllers, though that's actually a feature of the Wii U in any case.
- Nintendo wants to avoid the price of the hardware getting too high.
- A September reveal is on the cards, potentially tied into the Tokyo Game Show.
Perhaps Gameblog's sources will be proven valid on some points, perhaps not. A number of individuals have earnestly claimed insider knowledge, yet there have been enough contradictions and errors (even when sources are supposedly 'authenticated') to ensure that, at best, rumours only give us interesting talking points.
So, what do you think of this batch of information? Feasible, fantasy, a mix of both? Would a September reveal fit well with a target launch of March? Let us know in the comments.
Thanks to all that sent this in.
Power being related to PS4 Neo? Gotta be fake!
What's French for 'guessing'?
Sounds like a load of bologna to me, too many 'facts' that we've seen disputed are present. This spoils the chances something reasonable like a September reveal being a legit fact.
Skyward Sword HD? That's the last game to use as a system seller. Besides, Aonuma discussed this at E3, and from what he said; it's not in the works right now.
This is just another made-up rumour.
A September release? Noooo... who'd have thunk it?
It seems similar to all the other rumours; some things that seem obvious and probably will happen, some that definitely won't and nobody really knowing anything.
skyward sword 4k pls
NO! E3 is over with, no more rumors for a while!
I'd be surprised if they saved the reveal for their next big console for 2017. More time for marketing and hype if they do it sooner. Doesn't have to be September, but sometime in the latter half of 2016.
@Octane I thought his reply was something akin to "You never know".
I'll believe it when I see it.
That's all one should do.
I can't wait to see how how the stereoscopic 3d glasses work with the NX when they reveal it. I also can't wait for all the 3DS games they will port over to it
@Grumblevolcano And why is that?
Aonuma already pretty much confirmed Skyward Sword HD isn't currently in development. All of the information is either common wishlist stuff or already obvious. Fake leak is fake. Only thing it's missing is the unsourced statement that "this source had previously leaked other things that turned out to be true".
@IceClimbers Because Reggie said specs aren't important so it's clearly going to be less powerful than XB1/PS4.
Likely that the majority of this is false, while at the same time, some of it may be true. I've had some strong suspicions that the reveal would be at or around Tokyo Game Show.
@Grumblevolcano That PR dodging statement from Reggie does not clearly reveal anything in regards to the NX's power. Actually it was likely made to avoid revealing a single ounce of anything to not spoil the surprises. Speculation on it, even based on the statement, is just as worthy as being labeled as rumor as all of the other rumors out there.
Also, at this point, Nintendo would have to be kind of stupid not to launch the NX at the same time as Breath of the Wild.
@Grumblevolcano Reggie made those "specs don't matter" comments after being asked about Neo/Scorpio, not the vanilla PS4/XB1. He said them with a huge smirk on his face too.
He'd be saying that regardless of how powerful NX is anyway. His comments mean nothing.
Due to the natural progression of technology, NX should be between the PS4 and the PS4 Neo specs wise.
These rumors are fake as hell. Skyward Sword remaster. No its not happen. Look I am going burst bubbles to you. THE NX IS A HANDLED. ITS 5x more POWERFUL THAN THE VITA. So all of these rumors are fake. Nintendolife please no more fake nx rumors
"Nintendo wants to avoid the price of the hardware getting too high"
That's the rumour? It's obvious, every company does that now so they can sell their crap. Days of "if you can't afford our 600 dallaz console, get 2nd job" are long gone.
@Dave24 - please drop the profanity. This is not the first time you've been pulled up on it recently. Please don't make us have to consider further action. Thanks.
We all know it was originally planned for this year, more specifically in time for Christmas.
You can keep your Skyward Sword remaster as well. The game is awful and beyond repair.
These rumours have a strong whiff of BS.
@AlternateButtons And how can you play Just dance 2017 on PC?
@Grumblevolcano The outcome of your hypothesis is outstanding!
@AlternateButtons @YouSeemFRAZZLED I am real developer. NOW I DONT HAVE THE NX SDK. NO I DON'T. "But I know what it is". The nx is a hybrid but mostly a handled. Why because in Japan handled/Mobile gaming is very popular and nintendo realize that they need to make something appeal to today gamers. So I think NX is powerful handled console. The Vita is very powerful. So long story short mobile phones like samsung galaxy s7 gpu is 4x more powerful than 3ds and the vita. Phones and tablets specs are close to gaming systems today. So its a Handled. Its not going to replace the wii u and 3ds. Nintendo and indie developers (Like Me) are still supporting the Wii U and 3ds. So my guts 75% chance the nx is handled console
I think Skyward Sword Remake was pretty much a given.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It's unfortunate that you didn't like Skyward Sword. I loved it.
It's obvious that they're going to reveal it this year as we are quickly approaching NX release schedule, so this news is not a surprise to me.
Didn't Aonuma remark that SS HD was 'certainly possible'. That wasn't exactly a denial. He can't just say - when asked 'yeah we're doing this for the NX, well surmised'. The Internet is a hive of Chinese whispers...
Also, specs relating to the PS4 Neo is probably accurate; just because Reggie says that it's not about specs for them, doesn't necessarily mean they're harking back to the GameCube for inspiration. It's just that specs aren't important. Which is probably a reaction to XBox's dazzlingly bad and misguided Scorpio sizzle reel.
Also the Android rumour won't refuse to die. I can see the OS this time being more up to date this time ...
So from this I can be certain that the NX will be:
I saw another that claimed it was closer to scorpio power (6 teraflops) but wouldn't be as expensive which is obviously BS.
You could possibly argue pulling Neo power (said to be 4 terraflops) on an... less obscene budget but no chance in hell of pulling it off in an "affordable" way and make any money on the machine.
@jbopatrick It was ''You never know..'' as in ''well.. maybe? not now'' and not as in ''you never know.. wink wink''.
This is whole cloth rumor. A September reveal would be waiting too long, with a new Zelda likely coming out day and date with NX they have no need for a stop gap with Skyward Sword, and it's highly unlikely it will run on Android or be as tech heavy as a PS4.
All seems very old rumours that have been all denied in the past year.
Also there is some guessing here, and one that may or may not makes sense - if you think in a certain way - is this unexpected and unnecessary Skyward Sword HD!
It only makes sense if the next Zelda won't be released in time for NX debut - and it could happen considering the size of this game and the scope of its gameplay.
So, this new Zelda is probably going to be delayed on the same fashion of OOT - just to deliver a groundbreaking gaming and engaging experience! Thus the SS HD should fill the void at the time of NX release, or maybe later on this console life (much like Majoras Mask 3D).
But thinking this way doesn't make any sense, because the world is hyped for the Breath of the Wild and this gotta be the next Zelda game and at the same time NX is released, period!
Also, who knows if the NX have motion controls?? Maybe Ubisoft knows...
@teamshortcut Reveal, not release... two completely different things. Not really of of the question either, as Nintendo more and more often does it's own thing separate of Industry events.
Timed with a major price cut for the Wii U to drive holiday sales along side of existing and perhaps new Nintendo selects and it makes sense to me.
And/or taking a page from the SONY playbook, it may also make people hang on to money they may have spent on other systems over the holidays... especially if it's tied to an announcement of a proper preorder program.
"Power-wise (that old chestnut) it's being related again to the upcoming PS4K / PlayStation Neo."
"Nintendo wants to avoid the price of the hardware getting too high."
September would make sense Considering its near the Tokyo Game Show. I really hope Nintendo will make a press conference like Space World to present the NX, but then I remember how they presented the Wii U and I get depressed...
Sounds like some of those rumors are tied to Nintendo philosophies of the past but could possibly still be relevant. Meh, I'll wait for information with solid substance.
@Tsusasi Ah yeah sorry, I meant reveal. But yeah, I agree that it could make sense; I just don't think they know any more than we do. Anyone can speculate and say they have "reliable sources".
I'll believe it when I see it, but this sounds...yeah...
I really don't see why a September reveal would be so out of the question. The rest of the rumors are a little more sketchy, but September would be fine. It's near the Tokyo Game Show date, Nintendo has been doing their own events, digital and otherwise... and if they take a page from the SONY playbook, it may also make people hang on to money they may have spent on other systems over the holidays... especially if it's tied to an announcement of a proper preorder program and hands on 'play' events to avoid the mistakes made with the Wii U (i.e. taking too long to get it into gamer's hands and truly explain the benefits/idiosyncrasies/positioning of the system).
Timed with a major price cut for the Wii U to drive holiday sales along side of existing and perhaps new Nintendo selects and it could make for an exciting one/two punch for Nintendo's holiday presence and an opportunity to clear selves so that the Wii U isn't prominent along side the NX (something that added to the confusion with the Wii U launch - Wiis on they same selves as Wii Us... and at the start, in comparable quantities).
@therealgamer No offense, but you sound like someone spiked your kool-aide. You're not making a lot of sense... Also, Skyward Sword remaster certainly can happen and has already been chatted about. Although, if you have a good argument as to why it will never happen, I'd sure like to hear your reasoning.
I want to see Nintendo knock it out of the park with this one, and before I saw the new Zelda I would've said it was hopeless. But that game has given me hope that Nintendo does know how to listen to it's fanbase, and give us something that we want. It's probably a fool's hope though...
There is not much news value in the September guesswork. There are only so many months left in the year. It is likely to be after the Summer so it sticks in people's minds. Christmas period is already crowded with other entertainment announcements. So that leaves September or October as the likeliest months for a reveal.
The rest seems to be a random collection of warmed-up rumours we have heard before.
The only plausible thing on here is the September reveal. I'd be shocked if NX is revealed any later than September.
I don't really see how Skyward Sword could get a remaster if the new machines doesn't A) support backwards compatibility B)features an new style of Wiimote or C) completely builds an all new control scheme not seen in the franchise (which some how is able to control the direction of slashing)
Gameblog are not reliable. Full of clickbait articles and they usually talk out of their ass.
Source: i'm french.
Other rumors aside, September seems plausible. When they had the press reveal of Wii U pricing and what not it was in September. However, Wii U came out that November.
September is too late if the console's launching in March 2017. If it gets revealed then, it's delayed until holiday 2017. LOL!
In other N Life news, a well trusted gardener was overheard comparing the power of his shears with the NX whilst trimming a hedge, right next door to my uncle who is usually trustworthy.
@Evenmoresteven well it dose seem the public reaction to new Zelda has certainly cause Nintendo to take a look at itself with Miyamoto promising a new "type" of Mario game.
The only issue I can see is them giving all their franchises this sort of do over will alienate fans. I look forward to it but we just have to look at the Metroid series to see how "fans" freak out. Hell even the much loved Prime had a frosty start. (obviously history now records that as one of the franchises highlights)
@Grumblevolcano "related again to the upcoming PS4K / PlayStation Neo"
Power of the PS4, price of the PS4K, that's the relationship. We all know Ntineod won't sell at (much of) a loss.
Right now, Wii U at $299, Xbox One at $279 almost everywhere. Which one do you think is more powerful, Wii U or X1?
So I don't think PS4 power at PS4K price is out of the question. Even if I was joking. Does Wii U $20 more than X1 count as a joke? A bad one anyway.
The NX is already as mysterious as the continuum transfunctioner . . . but now as powerful?!?! No way!!!
@rjejr How about XB1 power at Scorpio prices
I don't believe any of these claims, but revealing NX at the Tokyo Game Show is logical. I'm actually expecting it at this point.
@MrGawain It would be "Deviner" but for this case, I would say "Parler au travers de son chapeau" ... Google it.
Give 'em back before Donkey Kong goes ape!
@Grumblevolcano "Scorpio prices"
I don't think anybody at Ntinedo can count that high.
I can't type Ntinedo, they can't count, seems fair.
Was Holoens at E3? I'm still waiting to see what that costs, it's a high end laptop wrapped around your head. Considering what Surface tablets cost Hololens can't be cheap. I'd bet even more than Scorpio. No matter what, it will still just be made from off the shelf parts.
Uh-huh, yeah okay. Mmm-hmm sure.
No, but seriously though?
@therealgamer using a cell phone as a controller. You would want a proper size monitor so you could follow the moves. Handhelds are a little to small I'm guessing.
I would bet good money that the NX doesn't hold the specs of the PlayStation 4, let alone the Neo. I think Nintendo is willing to give top-of-the-line type systems up. I think Nintendo moves in a direction to try to take a larger share of the mobile game market.
I think you will get the most powerful set-top box out (Apple TV, Fire TV, or Roku). I think there will be a portable component strikingly similar to the phone we all carry around. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Nintendo partner with Sony to make the PlayStation Vue streaming package part of the system.
After Fils-Aimes comments last week, I just don't see a super powerful system, and it doesn't have to be. Most first party Nintendo games aren't more than 7 or 8 gbs.
I would've thought a September reveal was pretty obvious. Everything else mentioned here is up for grabs.
I just think "meh". I'm not gonna believe anything I read/hear until Nintendo says it directly. Although, I'm not against speculating; I just don't believe any of it now.
Going down the list. See "Android" as their OS. NOPE
7.8/10 Too much salt. - IGN
I don't believe any of it.Why would nintendo do a HD remaster of skyward sword when your getting this completely new zelda Breath of the wind on day one of NX coming out.
@MrGawain Bonjour, je devine
I've heardthe NX kills men by the hundreds. And if it were here, it would consume the English with fireballs from it's eyes, and bolts of lightning from its arse.
Skyward Sword remake seems likely. There will need to be something for the next 5 years after Zelda Wild comes out.
I have to say that the NX as a console is the narrative that the wider Internet gaming audience seems to believe so if it isn't a console... it better be an amazing something else.
I'm sorry but no, I really don't think this is true. For starters why bother remaster Skyward Sword after revealing Breath of the Wild, a game that's so far been universally praised and won many Best of E3 awards? It feels like a step back.
Also I'm not sold on the idea of Nintendo waiting until September to reveal the NX. They just had a hugely successful Zelda reveal, a game that is also coming to the NX. They have been trending on social media. People are talking Nintendo and Zelda. It's best to keep that hype on them real get these people talking NX with a reveal sooner rather than later. And besides, September is probably when Sony reveals the PlayStation Neo which is going to detract a lot of attention from Nintendo so why go up against that??
Oh yeah, moar rumours about NX and "heated" discussions for that; very good, meanwhile, I enjoy playing and waiting for "real and official" info for NX, XD
A lot of this makes sense. It probably will be shown in Aug/Sept. It probably will be similar in spec to Neo which I believe is set for 4k streaming but not 4k gaming. Not sure about the android though......seems either Power PC or 86 will probably be used and if it is power pc I think it will be the same as the next handheld or similar enough to N3DS so the games can be played on the console.
Assuming a controller like PS4's, they probably could release it at $299 or maybe even $249 with a recycled game download code. Something like MK8 or DKTF could be included as a digital download without much cost to Nintendo.
I can't wait to see the console itself, the controller and some games running on it. I'm hoping to see the return of GameCube shoulder buttons. I'm a big virtual console gamer on my Wii u and I'd like to see some cube games on the nx.
@IceClimbers its either a bluff or he really is hiding a GTX 1080 in the NX.
or NX is a 6 TF beast itself making the whole "specs don't matter"
because they wont, not if at par, games that use that power WILL determine the NX's success.
@therealgamer you have no evidence and that's what makes this funny? Zelda Breath of the wild on NX handheld HA!
I think that the NX is going to be a handheld that connects to the TV via a dock(image the Wii u change dock but with a power,hdmi,2 USB ports and I think it will still have a sensor bar).
2.It will also use the Wii remote but updated with a chargeable battery and a headphone jack(similar to the Roku 3 remote).
3.it most likely be a x86 or ARM
4.the dock could have the ability to stream movies and shows and do shopping on the E shop.
5.i think it will use carts
6.it will be able to use a vr
I live in france, none of the outlets are good sources, they seem to get there info from 12 year olds who guess a random combanation of numbers to form dates.
@therealgamer you are lying Zelda Breath of the wild will run an handheld? XDXDXDXD
@HSuzumiyaVI it could on something like the nidivia should tablet.
@ThomasBW84 by the way http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/12/ps4k-neo-and-nintendo-nx-to-be-unveiled-in-september-claims-report-5877602/
@filterclay even PlayStation uses motion controls, take the gyros of the Dual Shock 4.
Why people insist Nx is a handheld? It is all confirmed that its going to be a home console and the replacement for the Wii U.... Or else, I can't explain why the release calendar for Wii U is dryer than the Atacama desert.
How in the name of everything holy would an open world game run on a handheld without frying its circuits? There is a reason why PC's and home consoles have this pretty big ventilators included, y'know....
@Evenmoresteven you're not actually alone with that assumption, Nintendo is waiting for NEO to reveal their hand. Xbox was an idiot or they wanted Sony to show the Neo.
Much like most rumors, I feel as though I'm simply being fed what I'd want to hear. Too good to be true, in other words. The reveal date they, er, 'propose' is about what I figured, though.
Idea 2 the NX dose not exist
@abe_hikura i'm not thinking that will happen, NX isn't launching till march and Sony is first and second to drop the challenge to defeat the Scorpio (which in my opinion wont sell well.)
and don't forget, PSVR is their dead line to get Neo out before, Xbox however spooked both Nintendo and Sony which is a worry.
every thing can be mapped to a Pro controller. including the haptic feedback.
@NintendoEan actually, November is better to do it, closer to the date and Nintendo is using E3 to gain interest in NX next year.
If we all keep guessing one of us will be right.
@fortius54 Breath of the wild is not running flawlessly on the wii U and so was Xenobade X, plus you have no evidence to back this up, and Reggie was grinning while saying specs don't matter.
I'm French and reading the original article, the points seem right on:
1) Nintendo is surprised at the new Xbone and PS4s coming out so soon and is now reacting to it.
2) Nintendo is having a raging internal debate about whether do a typical Nintendo upgrade or a revolutionary machine with superb top of the line specs.
3) However, Nintendo knows that the machine cannot lag behind the competition spec wise, given the Wii U story.
4) Nintendo is announcing it in September, for a March release, makes sense in terms of dissuading console purchases of competitors over the holiday season.
Who knows if its made up or not, but reading it in French, it seems like a serious article and the site emphasizes its information is rock solid and backs it up with what seems to be accurate information of the current state of Nintendo.
If I were Nintendo and I had a console coming in less than a year, I'd for sure start to talk about it and September seems like a perfect time to launch the hype train.
@FragRed simple, Nintendo NX is more powerful than Neo. Nintendo's strategy was to show a tech demo of the NX.
@andrew20 so a Wii U 2?
that's a contradiction, according to president of Nintendo.
More rumours... One of these days, Nintendo is gonna spread some rumours just for the fun of it. I don't have any idea of what to expect from NX; horizontal thinking with Wii and DS worked in their context, but it was a huge mistake with Wii U... I don't know if they wanna try it again or aim for current technology and easier environment for programmers to port their games without losing quality.
One way or the other, though, Nintendo is gonna bring us outstanding games; that's for sure. Breath of the Wild being a day one title is the best possible start for NX.
@andrew20 Nvidia has stated its getting out of mobile devices and I very much doubt NX has a GTX 1080 in it. or Tegra.
@Luna_110 or the death of the wii U, or even the fact Zelda Breath of the wild is running on the NX. which is pushing the wii U.
@andrew20 NX doesn't exist? Reggie said Zelda is coming to wii U and NX.
@zool likely, Neo is an upgraded PlayStation, Nintendo is pulling off a PlayStation after Neo comes out. Nintendo can afford to wait. and they know it.
@Agent721 not before Neo is out and PlayStation has reacted.
basically, after they hang themselves with PSVR and NEO
Nintendo know Project Scorpio has spooked them and Sony as well, it seems Xbox is over.... they are basically killing consoles to go to PC.
@MailOrderNinja "A September reveal would be waiting too long"
You must have missed the part of the E3 interview where Nintendo officially stated that more news concerning NX would be shared this fall season, which happens to coincide with the month of September...
@RenanKJ Nintendo know Scorpio spooked them and so did Sony, in fact, I bet Sony's conference was likely watched by Kimishima personally.
I CALLED IT!! I FRICKIN CALLED IT!!! I KNEW they were planning to reveal during the TGS because they figured E3 was too noisy! I believe this is more than a rumor due to timing. If you mention it before PlayStation VR comes out and people will actually like he NX, it'll make some buyers think twice on the investment of either Sony's VR or Scorpio.
@ThanosReXXX Nintendo know, Sony is redoing their specs somehow, Nintendo luckily has limited NX kits out in the wild.
@MrPuzzlez not exactly, VR will be a short fuse as its already showing, Nintendo isn't worried about VR but they are preparing for VR some time down the track, Nintendo will wait for PS Neo to come out, then they will announce the NX.
The theory that Nintendo has suggested before is that the NX could be a "family" of devices that includes a home console and a handheld. The devices in the NX "ecosystem" would share the same architectures and software development tools to theoretically allow developers to develop games for the NX ecosystem that are playable on both the NX home console and the NX handheld. This theory would fall in line with Nintendo's recent integration of their handheld and home console development offices.
But based on statements by Nintendo's NOA executives, it appears like the NX home console is the NX device that will be released next March. The 3DS actually has a sprinkling of software coming out in 2017 (Ever Oasis and presumably Dragon Quest VIII), so I would expect the NX handheld to be released much later, likely during the holidays of 2017.
Why are so many people still thinking that the NX will be a handheld? Going by Nintendo's own statements, NX isn't really a device but more of an ecosystem of sorts, that shares an OS and could contain several form factors, meaning that handhelds could come, but the initial device to be revealed, will be a console.
No handheld can run a game like the new Zelda game, and Nintendo has already officially stated that the NX version of that game will look better:
A Skyward Sword remaster sounds rather far-fetched because it's the most recently console Zelda game, it was built around motion controls (I can't see NX being backwards compatible with Wii controllers), and I'm not sure people will be in the mood for a linear Zelda now that Breath of the Wild has the internet a-buzzing.
@HSuzumiyaVI Closer to the date? Better than September? November is worst! Don't you realize that's 4 months after reveal? It's gonna get delayed! Which I think the NX will get delayed anyway do to the lack of "no NX at E3". Since they didn't show the NX at E3 and the system is coming out March 2017, they are gonna have serious problems with the system such as advertising, launch games, and I think manufacturing. Also getting everything ready to launch March 2017.
@HSuzumiyaVI Of course, I don't have any evidence to back this up. If I did, I'd be getting paid to say things like this. However, I don't think that Nintendo is going to one up Sony or Microsoft. They are not in it for that, and I am okay with it.
My Wii U is still being played just as much this month (60 hours) as it was played the first month I bought it three years ago. If I'm wrong and they come out with the be all system at an affordable price, I will gladly take an 'I told you so' from everyone on here. I just don't think it will happen.
@ThanosReXXX Good point. I think if the NX does have a mobile component to it, it will be a system that is designed to play mobile games and double as a controller for the home console. I don't see any other way for it to be anything other than that and stay at an affordable price.
My guess is that Skyward Sword is coming to the Wii U this year. It will probably be the November/Black Friday Wii U game now that Color Splash is October. It seems possible since TP was announced just 3 months before release. And the remasters only take about six-ish months. I would also imagine a Loftwing amiibo that maybe summons a Loftwing in Breath of the Wild?
@fortius54 Okay, now take that thought and go one (big) step further: the one you just mentioned is the standard companion/replacement controller for the NX home console, but because of the whole several form factors thing, they might also decide to make a more powerful handheld as well.
PS Vita level graphics should now more than easily be possible for a price point similar to or only slightly higher than what the current New 3DS XL is currently going for.
Both home console and the handhelds not only share an OS, but also the game carts (think 32GB and 64GB versions of 3DS game carts) which contain one and the same game, with all assets and extras, but the combination of hardware and software inside either the handheld or the home console will be able to determine which assets are compatible to use on which device (as in toned down version/less game assets on the handheld, and all bells and whistles on the home console)
This can easily be achieved by some software routines written into the game and the OS, communicating to the hardware which steps to take to run the correct version of the game.
To me the consolidation of the handheld and console divisions, talks of the amounts of software that will supposedly be available at launch, and all the rumors talking about cartridges, no disc based media and cheaper manufacturing costs (a cartridge slot in a console is at least $20 cheaper than a Blu-ray drive) all point to that possibly being the case, provided that there are going to be NX handhelds, obviously...
@ThanosReXXX If they said that than I certainly did. However, if they actually plan on having this out in March that is an extremely narrow window for marketing and hype, 6 months between announcement and release unless they push it back again which would be extremely foolish.
@8itmap_k1d If the NX were to have Wii U backwards compatibilty (not saying it will), it would have to have Wiimote support since some Wii U games require it
I'm french and I read gameblog sometime. While I think the site is a clickbait fest and I don't like Julien Chieze (the author) I do reconized he has a lot of connections in the industry.
So I'm hoping.
All the NX needs, is to be stronger than PS4. Not on par, just slightly stronger. You know why? Because ALL PS4K and Project Scorpio games will run on the original versions too. Which means the NX can handle them too, and maybe even at a slightly higher resolution.
http://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-of-canada-nx-info-coming-this-fall.431601/ Confirmed by Nintendo of Canada btw
@MailOrderNinja Well, The CEO of Nintendo of Canada (don't know how much of a spokes person he really is within the entire company) officially said so in an interview:
And I would think that if he was wrong or speaking without consent, then his statement would have been retracted or rectified/refuted by now.
As for the "extremely narrow window": as an experienced Sales & Marketing professional myself, I can tell you that 3 to 4 months is actually more than enough to devise a strategy and accompanying marketing campaign for any device, product or service. It can even be done in 2 months, if you're able to perform under high pressure.
They'll need 2 to 3 months for hardware distribution and software-loaded media manufacturing and distribution as well, but this trajectory can run side by side with marketing, since it will be done by a business partner and not by Nintendo themselves.
All in all, they can easily keep working on both hardware and software until the end of October/beginning of November, and then still have more than enough time to produce and market it and get it into the shops and the hands of the customers.
@Grumblevolcano not saying your wrong or anything m but Reggie said a lot of stuff look at everything he said about the wiiu
Also, Skyward Sword remaster may not be coming now, but NX will get it at some point. If Nintendo keeps its practice of making new consoles compatible with previous generations, NX is gonna have WW and TP from Wii U, and OoT, MM and the whole Hero Lost Timeline from Virtual Console, but it won't have access to SS, perfect timing for a remaster in my opinion. Personally, I love SS, so I wanna play it in HD.
Hey guys, I know as much about the NX as you do!
@ThanosReXXX I sure hope so, I don't think it can afford a delay. Marketing has never been a Nintendo strong suit.
Either way I'm on board. Wii U may not have been a commercial success, but I think it's exclusives have made it a must have system.
@ThanosReXXX Right again. Your on fire, today. One needn't look any further than Apple to see that you do not need a long lead time to build hype for a product.
@fortius54 Thanks for the compliment, but in all honesty, in this case it was easier because I could speak from experience (used to do Sales & Marketing for HP) since it happened to be a relevant topic.
The same would go for a topic concerning your (or anyone else's) profession, where you would then be able to put in your two relevant cents...
Well, duh. (O.O )/
Nintendo doesn't care about marketing in the U.S. (or UK) as much as we think they do. Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe are in charge of those places. Nintendo is Japanese. If they're going to reveal anything "secret" they're going to do it during the Tokyo Game Show...
and that's in September.
I believe every single bit of info in this! Yep. Definitely. No bullcrap here!
Personally, I do expect the NX to be revealed in September at TGS; it just makes sense. Also, (Skyward Sword is my personal favorite Zelda game.)
@Kirk That's the spirit! Don't worry about any of it. Just play the 'wait for Nintendo to reveal it' game. I've been playing this game ever since the Wii U essentially dried up. Since I've been waiting this long, what's a few more months anyways? haha
@3MonthBeef Thanks for the credits, but remember: It's just a theory... A GAME Theory...
Semptember does seem like a great month to reveal the NX. There's both the Tokyo Game Show AND EGX.
1) TGS is September 15th - 18th 2) EGX is September 22nd - 25th.
Personally I think revealing it at TGS and then bringing it to EGX would be a great move. Sure Nintendo doesn't traditionally go to TGS but they did go to reveal the Wiimote, maybe they will do the same for the NX. I really hope this is what they will do, I really DON'T WANT a Nintendo direct reveal. Nintendo directs are way to isolating and only cater to current Wii U/3DS crowd.... Sure TGS and EGX is not as "big" as E3 but they are both the biggest in their respective countries.
I hope this is not a rumour again.
this had BETTER not be a rumor
This is just a rumour, but I've heard the NX is a Nintendo console.
@Dakt Oh. Mah. Gawd. I'd be so ready for that, even relatively soon after Cross.
@ThanosReXXX Pretending the last 3 hours don't exist, do you really think Zelda Wild on a handheld is undoable?
Now I do think NX is a Home, but there will be another handheld condole. If they are making a Home after 13.5 mil they should make another handheld after 3DS hits 60mil, and it will. (Everything they screw up at home they seem to get right on portable, but that's tomorrows post).
I could never have imagined XC or HWL on 5 year old hardware 3DS. Or 2 year old "New". And every new MH game looks more impressive than the last and they haven't had a "New" exclusive yet.
Now I'm not saying it would be "the same", any more than SSB is "the same". But it wouldn't be 3DS or 3DS or even 3 year old Vita. NEW handheld hardware. You don't think it could run Zelda Wild in 800x400 w/ very limited draw diatance? I feel like if XC is possible, anything is.
Too reiterate, I do feel confident NX in March is a Home console, but by Holiday 2017 a new portable is due. You really don't believe new handheld harware in 2017 could be pushed to run a Wii U game? Couldn't a good laptop run Zelda Wild? A laptop is just a big 3DS no? But no 3D effect. NX won't do 3D, so there's some extra power for ya.
If they plan on releasing it by March, they have to show it off at least by late August or September would be by guess...
Either it's Android based or it has power closer to PS4 Neo than PS4 Vanilla, since NX will probably at around the $350 price. It can't be both. I call shenanigans on this rumor!
@DiscoGentleman OH. MY. GOD. The foreshadowing is real! Iwata has reached prophetic status!
I don't think revealing the NX at TGS would be a good idea, Gamescom is a much more relevant event.
But maybe that's the point, no one expects a console reveal at TGS, so it would be a hell of a surprise and the NX would get all the attention to itself.
@teamshortcut Did you mean reveal?
Oh, we're back on rumors again. -_-
@Grumblevolcano Reggie says a lot of things... Like this.
Lo and behold, DLC is indeed now a regular hinge upon which Nintendo relies...
Lo and behold, we have increasing amounts of mobile style games appearing on Nintendo platforms; in addition to Pokemon Go, and who knows what else next, exclusively on mobile...
And a whole bunch of things here.
Lo and behold, Wii U not only didn't get a price drop soon after launch, but never got a significant official price drop; Wii U relied too much on (2D style) Mario properties and the promise of Zelda eventually coming to carry it along; third party support fizzled out very quickly, instead of being focused on; the two Gamepads on one system idea never panned out; and clearly NoA resources were not galvanized, because marketing/advertising was almost nonexistent throughout the Wii U's tenure.
Phew... So yeah... Reggie has said a lot of things over the years that flipped around later. I'm not saying he's a liar, but he's not someone you'd want to trust with a crystal ball to tell your fortune, so to speak...
I think september is pretty likely, it is what i guessed. They could do the "nx direct" as late as november maybe but i feel that is not going to happen.
Seriously doubt Nintendo would spend time now with any other Zelda game, with BotW coming up. Also doubt they'll play the hardware game trying to match the competition. But I can believe an end of the year reveal.
So Nintendo are bringing their biggest, most ambitious Zelda game to the NX while also working on a port of the most linear, restrictive Zelda game for the NX also? Ah what a load of crap lol I don't believe it for a second
@ASonic3582 Yes, that's why I think it's far-fetched.
If there's a Skyward sword remaster in the works, then that will happen at the launch. And Breath of the wild will go straight to Holiday 2017, please no!!
@rjejr No, that was not my point. As I've shown in the links I've posted, Nintendo has clearly stated that the NX version is going to look better, so that is never going to run on a handheld.
Something close to the Wii U version could probably run just fine on a handheld, so we agree on that point, but that will be a toned down version in that case. Much like I described in my idea of what the NX is going to be in comment #125.
The difference in graphics wouldn't even be that big, at least visually. Think of PS3 games and the PS Vita: because of the smaller screen, the fidelity of the games seems similar or even better on the Vita, but if you would display them on a big screen, you would see that they are actually not, same as the PSP was only near PS2 graphics and not equal or better than.
And the same goes for Nintendo handhelds: The 3DS has shown that it can handle Wii games, but the graphics are definitely less detailed/refined.
I would expect the same for any new handheld, except the differences will be ever smaller, especially if Nintendo is also going to go for the incremental updates like the other two parties are going to do, and I have some idea that the NX ecosystem is here to stay and all Nintendo consoles and handhelds produced from now on will be using it.
Hope that's the answer you were looking for, my friend. Otherwise I'm sure you'll let me know...
@Moeblob If they would have to choose, they would probably go for TGS, since that is still more of an industry oriented show than Gamescom, which is more of a consumer oriented show, even though both shows have had their hardware reveals.
So, chances are it is going to be TGS, PAX, or even an event of their own. But maybe I'm wrong and it is going to be Gamescom, leaving Sony's PSVR reveal for the TGS...
If all true then I'm up for it.
Well they've got to reveal it at some point. September sounds like a good month but my guess seems to be as good as anyone else's.
Don't believe that one. The redactor, Julien Chieze, doesn't have a very good reputation actually. He's not very trustable.
I really hope that the 'something something android' rumours have some substance. There's some nice stuff on the android store, and if Nintendo played their cards right, the NX could launch with upwards of 60 quality titles, of various price ranges...
@Megumi_Sagano Calm your bazongas, Meg.XD The internet will plow on with rumors whether we like them or not, sadly.
@ThanosReXXX That's pretty much what I thought and what has been giving me issues on the "NX platform" is the idea that every NX Home game would be playable on NX handheld, and if that's the case, Zelda Wild would need to run on the handheld. It wouldn't look better, NX Home will, but it still needs to run.
Now it is possible Nintneod goes the Vita streaming route but I just dont 'see how that's feasible. Unless it is only over home Wi-Fi - which I really wish Wii U had. But that still brings us back to 2 sets of games, and NX won't work that way. Only way NX sells is if it's 1 cartridge or cross-buy on the downloads.
hmm, I wonder if that means I'll persanlly need to buy a handheld and have it under my NNID rather than me buy a Home, kids buy the handheld. We currently all have NNIDs so that might be tricky.
Oh well, lets not speculate on how that works until we at least see the hardware.
If NX is Sept I may take the summer off, but if you want me, just call.
@rjejr I vaguely remember us having that same discussion before, at least about the "two sets of games" part, to which I do not agree. If you completely see before you what I've described in comment #125 then that should be abundantly clear. If it isn't, then either you can't see what I mean, or I'm to blame for not being able to explain it well enough.
Just see it like this: one game cart, ONE, that holds all data for both the console and the handheld version, which simply boils down to a base program that is the core of the game and that will run on both systems, and then there will simply be a folder with additional game assets that are only used on hardware that is powerful enough, aka the home console.
Smart routines are written into the game and/or into the OS that both systems will share, so the game will "know" on what platform it's running and it will use the correct files accordingly.
So, there aren't two games present nor are there two games needed. There's just ONE game and for the console there will be some additional files, not a complete game.
To simplify even further, the folder with additional files will for example contain higher resolution textures, better quality sound files and even extra graphics files and/or animations.
These can obviously not run as a standalone, so they will need the core game to run.
As for the handheld, I also didn't mean streaming, unless it is used as an additional handheld or a second screen.
Both systems can work with 3DS-like game carts, which can nowadays easily be upgraded from their original 8GB max to either 32GB or 64GB.
As for the graphics fidelity: read my previous comment again, 'cause we actually agree. Slightly below Wii U graphics (or let's just call em better than PS Vita graphics) should be possible, but that would still make the handheld version of The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild look less than its console counterpart, and like I said I'm almost completely certain that the first device in the NX family will be a home console, because they (Nintendo) have already stated that the NX version would look better.
A handheld isn't going to achieve better graphics than the Wii U version, so that is also why I think that the first NX device will be a console.
NNID's also no problem. Account and save data will be shared through the shared OS, much like you can now already log in on the MyNintendo website with your 3DS/Wii U NNID. And because these are usable online, they can also be used cross platform, as in between handheld and home console. There: problem solved...
And call you? Leave your number then, R....
@ThanosReXXX "NNID's also no problem. Account and save data will be shared through the shared OS, much like you can now already log in on the MyNintendo website with your 3DS/Wii U NNID. And because these are usable online, they can also be used cross platform, as in between handheld and home console. There: problem solved..."
I don't know, I don't think it's that easy in a family of 4. If I buy the NX fo rmy birthday next year, and then I buy a gaem under my NNID, and my kids get NX hadnehlds for Christmas, and put their NNID on them, we wouldn't be simply able to play the same game. B/c if my kids could play my purchased copy, then everybody on the planet could play my copy.
The reverse is a little better. If 1 of my kids buys a game on their handheld NX, then their account on the NX Home should be able to play that game. But would my other kid be able to play it on his NX handheld? Probably not.
Things are very simple when it's 1 person, 1 account, 2 pieces of hardware, but 3 people sharing 1 NX Home and 2 NX handhelds does complicate things. And this is Nintendo we are talking about, they screwed up SSB4U and that's their game on their hardware. 4 accounts all share the same save file, which is ludicrous b/c my boys unlocked every new challenger before I Ever sat down to play the game. And no matter how many new accounts we make they all share the same save file. So I'm not optimistic for things working simply for us. 1 person yes, 3 people no.
@rjejr Well, sharing multiple accounts and save games on one console has already worked perfectly fine in the last generation (Xbox360/PS3) so there's no reason for it not being able to work now, and will probably work even better.
It is already possible for several persons to share one 3DS cart because there are 3 or more save slots on there, so you can each play on your own tempo, with the exact same game, and no issues will arise.
So the answers to all your "no's" and "probably not's" is actually "yes" and "probably will"...
No Android please! Avoid Google at all costs!! Come up with your own operating system, as always!
They said the NX version of Breath of the Wild will have different visuals, but the same experience. The same experience means the NX controller WILL have a touchscreen. Otherwise it wouldn't be the same experience.
So at last we know ONE fact about the NX.
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