Reviving this old, embarassing account I said a lot of stupid stuff on to say: never accept unpaid market research from corporations. Know your worth - no pay, no gain. I voted on the Smash Ballot and my pick got in (K. Rool), and I'm regretting it to this day given how much money Nintendo made off of his stupid plastic Amiibos.
That's not vaporwave, that's neo-memphis. Certainly more accurate to real memphis than most neo-memphis projects I've seen though. Others will usually try to tone down the colours only keep the triangles.
@HotGoomba NASB was made on the tightest scheduele and worst brand mandates imaginable and that game's miles ahead from SSBU from a design standpoint - what's Smash's excuse for the input lag and overpowered nature of projectiles?
Also that first portion is utterly nonsensical - what are "options just in case anyone has a preference"?
@RubyCarbuncle "Have you ever made a game?" is a falacy, end of. Other quotes he's said that come to mind are "If Smash was aimed at competitive players it'd have no future" and "Clone haters are just children" Even as someone who loves clone fighters and doesn't play games at advanced levels, those are LOW blows.
@RubyCarbuncle I gave my reasons though, he doesn't think out the design and balance of his fighting games, and he has a stuck up attitude towards his critics.
@Don You think all this stuff started under Bowser? Nope, the only difference between Iwata and Furukara or Reggie and Bowser is that the latter are more brazen. Stop worshipping CEOs.
@blindsquarel It's not like a majority of the games that have become popular in the modern generation were heavily inspired by earlier games aesthetically and/or gameplay-wise... or a kids' movie about a fictional 80s video game grossed $420 million at the box office in the early 2010s... or Nintendo are actively promoting games they don't provide in modern crossover games... or that kids were the ones who gave 2000s-era "angry reviewers" their fame... or that children are capable of the basic human emotion of appreciating history... or that your PFP is from a game that came out before the Wii.
Just bought it based on the review and am loving it - will have to put Go Go Beckham on my to-emulate list, I love licensed games that have no right to be good (McDonald's Treasure Land and Coca-Cola Kid come to mind)
I really like it when fighting games make alternate versions of characters like this or Dr. Mario seperate characters with unique moves/stats/animations instead of costumes. Games like kart racers where characters are purely cosmetic on the other hand... not so much.
Platform fighters are not just fighting games, but also PLATFORMERS. A genre that is entirely built around mobility. Movesets should thus reward mobility with aspects like air combos. Plus, if air attacks are JUST for KO'ing, why even have air moves at all when you can just have stronger ground moves?
NASB fighters can move freely left or right in midair, so they can perform all their air moves in both directions in a single jump. There is, thusly, no need for forwards and back airs - especially with the strafe system that allows moves to be performed with reverse momentum. NASB's moves also aren't assigned in input based on where they hit but rather what direction knockback they put foes in - compare Garfield's up ground strong and ground down strong to King K. Rool's up smash and down smash, and you'll see what I mean
Dedicated light and strong buttons are way more reliable, easier for a new player to comprehend, and allow the game to work with a larger variety of control schemes, such as fightsticks.
You know that Smash isn't the only platform fighter, right? Rivals and Slap don't have ultimates, and they're nowhere to be seen in Multiversus thus far. Plus Final Smashes are, if anything, a blight on casual Smash as they tend to have no weaknesses and recenter the game into more of an unfun game of tag where one player is completely dominant more than anything else. Additionally, ultimate moves just wouldn't work in NASB since the whole concept of the game is that you can perform really powerful moves really quickly - when Reptar can deal 30% in less than half a second with his down B, why would he need a super move that deals 70% in 5 seconds, other than just to be flashy? (also, unrelated, but are you seriously implying Namco-era Smash is better than 64 and Melee?)
@BulbasaurusRex Strong airs and the floaty weight are two of my favourite things about NASB - stringing together combos in the air is a lot more fun and easier to do because of it - especially when combined with the air dash system. Having a spiking down air (on most characters) or pushing down air to choose from for different situations adds a lot of spice. Plus having a seperate button for lights and strongs beats the C-stick mumbojumbo Smash has for tilts and smashes any day.
Also, I seriously don't see why people are so caught up on the lack of ultimates - that's more a traditional fighter thing than a platform fighter thing.
@Yorumi If some people are just "born evil", that makes retribution even more morally deplorable - punishing people for something out of their control is wretched.
@JaxonH But does punishment work as a deterrant either?
@JaxonH @blindsquarel Look up the Halden prison in Norway. Treating people with respect makes them want to treat others with respect back and realise their wrongdoing, treating people with cruelty makes them think the world around them just wants to leave them to suffer (which is correct) - actively rehabilitate and forgive, or just perpetuate the cycle for karmic kicks? our choice.
@Qwertyninty That's content, not a mechanic. A mechanic is more something like say... how air dodging/dashing works, how blocking works, a grab system or lack therof, how stronger and lighter attacks are performed, so on. Final Smashes can be turned off and are rarely deeply woven into fighters' playstyles like specials or other attacks are.
Hopefully GameMill will have a price cut on Nickelodeon Brawl too, one of the best platform fighters ever IMO but bogged down in the public eye quite a bit by its exaggeratedly high price tag.
NFTs are the opposite of art - art is a shared experience, NFTs turn them into nothing more than a status symbol, something that exists NOT to be shared. The only upside to NFTs is verification for things like concert tickets - however, even then the environmental costs cannot justify that.
If you truly "own" your NFT, try pitching a cartoon starring your Bored Ape or Lazy Lion to Adult Swim or Comedy Central - tell me how the lawsuit goes!
I would much rather take baby and metal clones over this BS.
Nintendo could've learned a lot from CTRNF, and that includes digging deep into the back catalog. That first comment about Waluigi is the perfect argument against making this, so many Mario characters will miss their shot to make room for characters who inherently don't and can't fit the aesthetic.
Love this show - though that description is highly misleading, it's not really a "self-aware action cartoon" as much as a furry sitcom with a corporate-mandated fight scene at the beginning of every episode.
I would love a smaller rostered Smash, Nick Brawl taught me the value of a good game engine, which SSBU doesn't really have compared to the competition. Cutting down the roster and overall content would allow more time to spent fine tuning the engine and balance.
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Re: One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 Is Getting New DLC, Will Be Decided By Fan Votes
Reviving this old, embarassing account I said a lot of stupid stuff on to say: never accept unpaid market research from corporations. Know your worth - no pay, no gain. I voted on the Smash Ballot and my pick got in (K. Rool), and I'm regretting it to this day given how much money Nintendo made off of his stupid plastic Amiibos.
Re: Treasure Is Apparently Working On A "Highly Requested" Title
ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALD'S ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALD'S
Re: Atari Goes WarioWare In Microgame Collection 'Atari Mania' Out This Summer
@Bret "Released by Activision"
Not made or published by Atari.
Re: Atari Goes WarioWare In Microgame Collection 'Atari Mania' Out This Summer
Pitfall isn't an Atari game.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Is Finally Part Of The Video Game Hall Of Fame
PaRappa deserved it more.
Re: Reggie Talks About NoA Union Issues: "This Isn't The Nintendo That I Left"
epic corporate gaslighting moment 😎😎😎
Re: Random: A Terrible Mario Game Somehow Made Its Way Onto The Xbox Store
This isn't that much worse than the bootleg Croc game that's always on the Switch charts.
Re: Feature: Which Is The Absolute Best Nintendo Console Generation?
SNES - and that includes the VB. VB Wario Land is one of the best games Nintendo has ever put out.
Re: Random: We Can't Stop Thinking About This Stunning GameCube Mockup
That's not vaporwave, that's neo-memphis. Certainly more accurate to real memphis than most neo-memphis projects I've seen though. Others will usually try to tone down the colours only keep the triangles.
Re: Rumour: Banjo-Kazooie, Perfect Dark, And Paper Mario Might All Be Getting PC Ports
@BrazillianCara Perhaps "official" and "unofficial" would be more suitable?
Re: Sakurai Wins 'Most Valuable Creator' At Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2021
@HotGoomba NASB was made on the tightest scheduele and worst brand mandates imaginable and that game's miles ahead from SSBU from a design standpoint - what's Smash's excuse for the input lag and overpowered nature of projectiles?
Also that first portion is utterly nonsensical - what are "options just in case anyone has a preference"?
@RubyCarbuncle "Have you ever made a game?" is a falacy, end of. Other quotes he's said that come to mind are "If Smash was aimed at competitive players it'd have no future" and "Clone haters are just children" Even as someone who loves clone fighters and doesn't play games at advanced levels, those are LOW blows.
Re: Sakurai Wins 'Most Valuable Creator' At Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2021
@RubyCarbuncle I gave my reasons though, he doesn't think out the design and balance of his fighting games, and he has a stuck up attitude towards his critics.
Re: Sakurai Wins 'Most Valuable Creator' At Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2021
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Re: Video: This Fan-Made Banjo-Kazooie Remaster Trailer Looks Absolutely Stunning
Stop putting photorealistic bloom and grass where they don't belong!
Re: Metroid Dread Senior Programmer Leaves MercurySteam, Joins Call Of Duty: Warzone Mobile Developer
I am so shocked to see people still blindly hate COD. Thought that hate train died once Angry Birds arrived.
Re: Hands On: Kirby And The Forgotten Land: More 'Super Mario 3D World' Than 'Mario Odyssey'
I'm not a Kirby fan at all, but I'm huge into corridor/linear 3D platformers so it may be one to check out.
Re: Video Game History Foundation Calls Out Nintendo's "Destructive" 3DS & Wii U eShop Closure
@Don You think all this stuff started under Bowser? Nope, the only difference between Iwata and Furukara or Reggie and Bowser is that the latter are more brazen. Stop worshipping CEOs.
@blindsquarel It's not like a majority of the games that have become popular in the modern generation were heavily inspired by earlier games aesthetically and/or gameplay-wise... or a kids' movie about a fictional 80s video game grossed $420 million at the box office in the early 2010s... or Nintendo are actively promoting games they don't provide in modern crossover games... or that kids were the ones who gave 2000s-era "angry reviewers" their fame... or that children are capable of the basic human emotion of appreciating history... or that your PFP is from a game that came out before the Wii.
Re: tERRORbane Will Bring Its Wacky Battle Against The Developer To Switch Soon
Oh wow, another meta-narriative. How original.
Re: Mini Review: Grapple Dog - A Cracking GBA-Style Platformer, With Echoes Of Go! Go! Beckham!
Just bought it based on the review and am loving it - will have to put Go Go Beckham on my to-emulate list, I love licensed games that have no right to be good (McDonald's Treasure Land and Coca-Cola Kid come to mind)
Re: Dragon Ball FighterZ To Showcase Android 21 (Lab Coat) Next Week
I really like it when fighting games make alternate versions of characters like this or Dr. Mario seperate characters with unique moves/stats/animations instead of costumes. Games like kart racers where characters are purely cosmetic on the other hand... not so much.
Re: Random: The Man Behind Mother And Earthbound Just Tweeted About The Nintendo Direct
Finally, Shigesato Itoi's No. 2 Bass Fishing!
Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Has Generated Nearly $1 Billion In Revenue After Five Years
Maybe they won't need to shill it in Smash anymore now.
Re: Random: The World's First Gamer Nut Butter Is Made For Gamers To Eat While Gaming
Isn't Pong still copyrighted?
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
@BulbasaurusRex
Platform fighters are not just fighting games, but also PLATFORMERS. A genre that is entirely built around mobility. Movesets should thus reward mobility with aspects like air combos. Plus, if air attacks are JUST for KO'ing, why even have air moves at all when you can just have stronger ground moves?
NASB fighters can move freely left or right in midair, so they can perform all their air moves in both directions in a single jump. There is, thusly, no need for forwards and back airs - especially with the strafe system that allows moves to be performed with reverse momentum. NASB's moves also aren't assigned in input based on where they hit but rather what direction knockback they put foes in - compare Garfield's up ground strong and ground down strong to King K. Rool's up smash and down smash, and you'll see what I mean
Dedicated light and strong buttons are way more reliable, easier for a new player to comprehend, and allow the game to work with a larger variety of control schemes, such as fightsticks.
You know that Smash isn't the only platform fighter, right? Rivals and Slap don't have ultimates, and they're nowhere to be seen in Multiversus thus far. Plus Final Smashes are, if anything, a blight on casual Smash as they tend to have no weaknesses and recenter the game into more of an unfun game of tag where one player is completely dominant more than anything else. Additionally, ultimate moves just wouldn't work in NASB since the whole concept of the game is that you can perform really powerful moves really quickly - when Reptar can deal 30% in less than half a second with his down B, why would he need a super move that deals 70% in 5 seconds, other than just to be flashy? (also, unrelated, but are you seriously implying Namco-era Smash is better than 64 and Melee?)
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
@BulbasaurusRex Strong airs and the floaty weight are two of my favourite things about NASB - stringing together combos in the air is a lot more fun and easier to do because of it - especially when combined with the air dash system. Having a spiking down air (on most characters) or pushing down air to choose from for different situations adds a lot of spice. Plus having a seperate button for lights and strongs beats the C-stick mumbojumbo Smash has for tilts and smashes any day.
Also, I seriously don't see why people are so caught up on the lack of ultimates - that's more a traditional fighter thing than a platform fighter thing.
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
@UsurperKing That's actually fair! 👍
Re: US Government Wants Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Locked Up For Five Years
@Yorumi If some people are just "born evil", that makes retribution even more morally deplorable - punishing people for something out of their control is wretched.
@JaxonH But does punishment work as a deterrant either?
Re: US Government Wants Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Locked Up For Five Years
@JaxonH @blindsquarel Look up the Halden prison in Norway. Treating people with respect makes them want to treat others with respect back and realise their wrongdoing, treating people with cruelty makes them think the world around them just wants to leave them to suffer (which is correct) - actively rehabilitate and forgive, or just perpetuate the cycle for karmic kicks? our choice.
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
@Qwertyninty That's content, not a mechanic. A mechanic is more something like say... how air dodging/dashing works, how blocking works, a grab system or lack therof, how stronger and lighter attacks are performed, so on. Final Smashes can be turned off and are rarely deeply woven into fighters' playstyles like specials or other attacks are.
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
@Qwertyninty Name one thing SSBU does better than NASB from a gameplay perspective
Not content, not presentation, just the base mechanics and movesets. I care only for gameplay and nothing else.
Re: US Government Wants Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Locked Up For Five Years
There is no such thing as just punishment, punishment helps nobody and stops no crime.
Re: TMNT's Shredder Is Joining Smash Bros. Pretender 'Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl'
NASB is objectively superior to Ultimate. I will die on this hill.
Re: Cruis'n Blast Gets A Permanent Price Cut On The Switch eShop, Now Only $19.99
Hopefully GameMill will have a price cut on Nickelodeon Brawl too, one of the best platform fighters ever IMO but bogged down in the public eye quite a bit by its exaggeratedly high price tag.
Re: Video: Muppetlike Munchlax Causes Kitchen Chaos In This New Pokémon Legends Advert
You take the moon and you take the sun... wait a minute, wrong pointy-headed glutton.
Re: Talking Point: Triangle Strategy Is A Bad Name, Which Hopefully Won't Matter
More like Pyramid Scheme amirite
Re: Yacht Club Games To Share "Groundbreaking Announcement" In Upcoming Twitch Broadcast
If it's "Shovel Knight 3D" I hope to god it's a corridor platformer and not a collectathon.
Re: Xbox Boss "Trusts" Nintendo To Not Do Anything That Would Harm The Games Industry
He says while Nintendo targets safe ROM sites for games they don't provide legal options of playing,
Re: Talking Point: What Could NFTs Mean For Gaming, And Why Are They So Divisive?
NFTs are the opposite of art - art is a shared experience, NFTs turn them into nothing more than a status symbol, something that exists NOT to be shared. The only upside to NFTs is verification for things like concert tickets - however, even then the environmental costs cannot justify that.
If you truly "own" your NFT, try pitching a cartoon starring your Bored Ape or Lazy Lion to Adult Swim or Comedy Central - tell me how the lawsuit goes!
Re: Rumour: Epic Working With Paramount, Opening The Door For TMNT In Fortnite
Personally I'm hungry for a Fortnite X Mr. Meaty crossover.
Re: Random: Nintendo Kart Is Trending On Social Media, Following Claims Of Mario Kart 9 Being "In Active Development"
I would much rather take baby and metal clones over this BS.
Nintendo could've learned a lot from CTRNF, and that includes digging deep into the back catalog. That first comment about Waluigi is the perfect argument against making this, so many Mario characters will miss their shot to make room for characters who inherently don't and can't fit the aesthetic.
Re: Mario Kart 9 Is "In Active Development" And Comes With A "New Twist", Analyst Claims
Imagine putting Captain Falcon in Mario Kart before Goomba or literally any WarioWare character.
God I hope this "Crossroads" stuff is BS.
Re: Among Us Crewmates Will Be Immortalised In 2022 As Murderable Nendoroids
Murderable nendoroids? Not interested
Now, murderable Funko Pops...
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess Manga Will End With The Next Chapter
Isn't this the one where Link threatens to rip a guy's arms off?
Re: The Point-And-Click Adventures Putt-Putt And Freddi Fish Are On Their Way To Nintendo Switch
Is Humongus still under Billionsoft? Because they fell off the face of the earth after Paws on Fire as far as I can tell...
Still holding out hope we'll get the proper Bubsy franchise redemption the world (that being me and me alone) needs...
Re: Sonic Boom's TV Animation Is Getting A 'Complete Series' Steelbook Blu-ray Release Next March
Love this show - though that description is highly misleading, it's not really a "self-aware action cartoon" as much as a furry sitcom with a corporate-mandated fight scene at the beginning of every episode.
Re: Video: We Forced A Bot To Create Switch Games That Don't Exist, And Now We Wish They Did
Yoshi Experiments sounds like it could be the name of a real game, but I doubt it'd be as ominous as it appears here.
Re: Commodore 64 Games Are Being Teased For Nintendo Switch
Oooh, I've always wanted to try out classic microcomputer games! I've always wondered if Monty on the Run lives up to its theme song...
Re: '90s Sonic The Hedgehog Cartoons Speeding Onto Blu-ray
THE PILOT??? YOOOO WE LOVE AN OFFICIAL LOST MEDIA RELEASE
Re: A New Smash Bros. Would Need A Smaller Roster, Admits Sakurai
I would love a smaller rostered Smash, Nick Brawl taught me the value of a good game engine, which SSBU doesn't really have compared to the competition. Cutting down the roster and overall content would allow more time to spent fine tuning the engine and balance.
Re: Random: Xbox's 20th Anniversary 'Metaverse' Acknowledges The Time It Tried To Acquire Nintendo
"Metaverse" is just a fancy word for "virtual reality", which is in and of itself a fancy word for "video games".