Like many others, I grew up playing 2d games so I can still enjoy the likes of zelda 1 and dragon quest 4 but let's be honest, for someone who's first ever games were breath of the wild and dragon quest 11, are they really gonna enjoy going back to the start?
My first play of zelda 1 was in 08 after I played every other zelda but that was a long time ago and games are pretty different now with how so many improvements like auto save exist.
I'd personally recommend every gamer who starts with the newest to check out the older ones but it is different to not have lived through it all as there's no way to truly appreciate games evolution but there are definitely some games that should be played matter what, eg start with link to the past over zelda 1 if you never played an old zelda
If they aren't gonna do prime 1 to 3 for this year if metroid prime 4 comes out in late 2023, then doing wind waker and twilight princess this Xmas makes perfect sense.
The dpad on my small new 3ds is starting to fail. For system transfer it needs to be the new model but do I go with the xl 2d or 3d? 2d is my best chance to get a new and boxed one but I will miss 3d in games like ocarina and mario 3d land so much.
Having rewatched ep 3 again last night, I'm really looking forward to riding Boga through the planet Utupau, whether chasing Grievous or just exploring the planet.
I've got a lot of bus and train travel coming up next week and have Crystal waiting for then.
Great to see it doing so well. I certainly wouldn't pay 40 pounds plus for the cart.
I also downloaded kirbys dreamland 2, wario land 2 and 3 as well. Terrible timing for the 3ds down button on dpad to get stiff but circle stick is okay until I can find a replacement.
It is awful. This is why I plan to emulate when I get a new laptop.
Luckily I own metroid prime trilogy on wii but if I didn't, and I don't download it off wii u store in time, what do I do? Pay nearly 100 pounds for a 2nd hand copy or download the rom?
If I have no realistic way of getting the game (and being 2nd hand means Nintendo get nothing anyway) then why not get it for free online?
Games are art and should be obtainable new no matter what. It was the sane when the wii shop closed. So many master system games like Alex kidd in shinobi world and sonic chaos are now gone. Luckily I still have my wii u for my many downloads over both generations and the 3ds with the ambassador games plus regular downloads like oracle of seasons but when the consoles break down and Nintendo won't allow a 3ds system transfer, what is the alternative?
I'm gonna rebuy the first 2 on wii u again. I still have it in perfect condition and im not keen on bayonetta 1 being a download only. And I doubt there is much difference between Wii U and Switch.
I remember buying this on day 1 in 2006. Tbh I felt ripped off. It was too easy and too short and using the collectibles as an excuse for increasing game length wasn't gonna work.
It had nice ideas like the mega mushroom and the 3d character models but it is an average game for a mario game.
One thing I never understood was why Nintendo and other companies didn't re-release games when they ran on the same console.
Why during the Wii era did they not release Paper Mario 2, Viewtiful Joe, Ikaruga, Luigi's Mansion 1 as Wii titles and just put a originally on Gamecube image on the cover.
I understood why they wouldn't do this with games being updated, eg Pikmin 1 and 2 but why not release the games again to give them that second chance.
The last 2 years haven't helped either. I bought Paper Mario 2 again in 2017 for 35 pounds. I gave it to my cousin for her birthday the next year as I wanted it to stay in the family rather than be sold to a stranger.
I checked it on ebay a few months ago and it was at 60 pounds.
Microsoft's story is scarily like Sega's. First console did well but had no chance next to the biggest rival (master system v nes and xbox v ps2), then started extremely well but was eventually outsold worldwide (mega drive v snes and 360 v ps3) because they put a lot of focus on an add on rather than focusing entirely on the games in the run up to the next true console (mega cd and 32x v snes just releasing games and not bothering with an add on), and this resulting in a botched launch for the true follow up (saturn and x1) that they did everything to fix for the console after (dreamcast and series x/s).
Fortunately Microsoft are going nowhere. They have the money to survive it. Sadly Sega didn't despite how good the Dreamcast was and with Sony clearly being keen to kill the Dreamcast ASAP.
I'm glad Microsoft have turned it round. I was one of the many people to go from ps2 to 360 to ps4 and then (in a few months time) series x.
Its a shame about Sega but it is scary to see how similar Microsoft's story is to Sega. But the lesson is clear.
I would have liked spirit tracks more if it weren't for the awful pipe blowing parts. Much like mine kart jumping on Skyward Sword on wii, I just couldn't get any further than that.
Zelda 2 I hated. Awkward controls for side scrolling fights, very difficult fights and just not any fun. I felt like the graphics were actually worse in 2 as well.
And Triforce heroes I hated. Too dependant on other players and simply nothing on four swords adventure.
I'm not surprised. The devs must have heard what the xbox 360 was gonna do in 2005 and assumed the Revolution would be the same.
The Wii was a great console but if it was around the 360s power level, we could have had games like Borderlands and Red Dead Redemption 1 on there and maybe the same team would have all stayed at Retro Studios
What is it that some of the pro exp share people don't understand about why we don't want it on all the time?
Like people have said, it makes the game too easy, causes pokemon we don't want levelled up to get stronger, affects ev training and doesn't fit with the original feel for the game.
If you are happy with exp share, that's brilliant but its pretty obvious why a lot of us don't want it forced on us.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 16th)
Lord of the rings war in the North on x360 and ff theatrythm on 3ds.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Ever A Good Idea To Start At 'The Beginning' Of Series Like Zelda Or Dragon Quest?
Like many others, I grew up playing 2d games so I can still enjoy the likes of zelda 1 and dragon quest 4 but let's be honest, for someone who's first ever games were breath of the wild and dragon quest 11, are they really gonna enjoy going back to the start?
My first play of zelda 1 was in 08 after I played every other zelda but that was a long time ago and games are pretty different now with how so many improvements like auto save exist.
I'd personally recommend every gamer who starts with the newest to check out the older ones but it is different to not have lived through it all as there's no way to truly appreciate games evolution but there are definitely some games that should be played matter what, eg start with link to the past over zelda 1 if you never played an old zelda
Re: Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Star Jim Carrey Says He's "Fairly Serious" About Retiring
I love Jim "I've had better" Carrey. He starred in some seriously funny films.
Re: Random: Requests For Zelda Ports Increase Following BOTW 2 Switch Delay
If they aren't gonna do prime 1 to 3 for this year if metroid prime 4 comes out in late 2023, then doing wind waker and twilight princess this Xmas makes perfect sense.
Re: Poll: C'mon Then, Did You Predict The Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2 Delay?
Metroid Prime Trilogy HD for this Christmas then hopefully.
Re: Talking Point: 3DS Is 11 Years Old, And Our Eyes Still Feel Strange
The dpad on my small new 3ds is starting to fail. For system transfer it needs to be the new model but do I go with the xl 2d or 3d? 2d is my best chance to get a new and boxed one but I will miss 3d in games like ocarina and mario 3d land so much.
But I want a new console. So tough to pick.
Re: Best Kirby Games Of All Time
Power Paintbrush is way too low. It was the most unique Kirby ever at the time and not being super easy made such a nice change.
Re: Review: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 1 - A 'Safe' Start To The 48-Track DLC Pack
I might wait til they are all ready as I just rebought mario kart ds so got plenty on there.
Re: Random: Sonic 2 Movie Poster Gives Fans The Major 'Sonic 2sday' Feels
I'm in love. Times 2
Re: Video: TT Games Talks About 'Building The Galaxy' In LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
Having rewatched ep 3 again last night, I'm really looking forward to riding Boga through the planet Utupau, whether chasing Grievous or just exploring the planet.
Re: Random: No, Your Wii Isn't Going To Self-Destruct
Did anyone really believe that?
Re: You'll Have To Pay To See Baby Yoda In LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
I have the £60 version from Game. The Han Solo in carbonite steelbook case.
Re: Feature: 7 Reasons For Picking Starter Pokémon, But How Do You Pick Yours?
Other whatever the final evolution looks like
Re: Best Batman Games On Nintendo Systems
I love Batman 89
Re: Here Is This Week's 3DS eShop Chart, Pokémon Crystal Is At The Top (Again)
I've got a lot of bus and train travel coming up next week and have Crystal waiting for then.
Great to see it doing so well. I certainly wouldn't pay 40 pounds plus for the cart.
I also downloaded kirbys dreamland 2, wario land 2 and 3 as well. Terrible timing for the 3ds down button on dpad to get stiff but circle stick is okay until I can find a replacement.
Re: There Are Some Tempting Deals On The 3DS eShop Right Now
Where are the wario land and zelda gbc games? I already have them downloaded but they should be on sale ASAP
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 26th)
Metroid Dread Item hunt before final boss.
Borderlands 3 final trophies hunt.
Oracle of Seasons in my first replay for years.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask Now Available On Switch Online's Expansion Pack
No thanks. Still not interested in the subscription at all. Most games I have on wii u and 3ds plus physical.
And I just bought Majora's Mask new and sealed from ebay for 39 pounds. I'd rather play that.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 19th)
Batman Telltale Season 1 on xbox1
Borderlands 3 on ps4
Metroid Dread on switch
I bought pokemon crystal but am waiting for my time off when I'll be playing it on the train.
Re: Old Pokémon Games Are Dominating The 3DS eShop Charts - Is It Thanks To Pokémon Bank?
Oh wow, I just downloaded Crystal about 2 hours before this.
Re: Video Game History Foundation Calls Out Nintendo's "Destructive" 3DS & Wii U eShop Closure
It is awful. This is why I plan to emulate when I get a new laptop.
Luckily I own metroid prime trilogy on wii but if I didn't, and I don't download it off wii u store in time, what do I do? Pay nearly 100 pounds for a 2nd hand copy or download the rom?
If I have no realistic way of getting the game (and being 2nd hand means Nintendo get nothing anyway) then why not get it for free online?
Games are art and should be obtainable new no matter what. It was the sane when the wii shop closed. So many master system games like Alex kidd in shinobi world and sonic chaos are now gone. Luckily I still have my wii u for my many downloads over both generations and the 3ds with the ambassador games plus regular downloads like oracle of seasons but when the consoles break down and Nintendo won't allow a 3ds system transfer, what is the alternative?
Re: Nintendo Is Closing The 3DS & Wii U eShops And Has "No Plans To Offer Classic Content In Other Ways"
@AJWolfTill that was my 2nd download right after Links Awakening
Re: Nintendo Is Closing The 3DS & Wii U eShops And Has "No Plans To Offer Classic Content In Other Ways"
Don't worry customers/consumers, you can still buy some of these games again and keep repeating the pattern.
Re: Don't Worry, The Klonoa Collection Is Getting A Physical Release On Switch
Its a shame 1 isn't a port of the wii version.
Re: Poll: Will Mario Kart 8's Deluxe Booster Course Pass Make You Buy The NSO Expansion Pack?
I don't use the online service at all but will pay for the tracks.
Re: It's Official, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Is Launching On Nintendo Switch This September
@Xansies Thanks for the tips, I certainly will not rush into buying 2 then, and certainly not at the ridiculous price it currently sells for
Re: It's Official, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Is Launching On Nintendo Switch This September
I've just ordered 1 on amazon as I had a voucher covering most of the cost.
I tried it on 3ds bit didn't get into it and, like last story, I missed it on wii.
If I like 1, ill def pick up 2 and then 3.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp On Switch
The gba prices on eBay are insane. The ds ones are a lot cheaper. It is tempting.
Re: Wii Sports Is Reborn As 'Nintendo Switch Sports'
I remember when fifa 08 came out and we joked the wii remote would get a leg strap.
Looks like its finally happening.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Is Finally Getting DLC
I was just saying earlier that this is what I would love rather than MK9.
Although new characters like StarFox would be great too.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Would Like You To Play The First Two Bayonetta Games Before Trying The Third
I'm gonna rebuy the first 2 on wii u again. I still have it in perfect condition and im not keen on bayonetta 1 being a download only. And I doubt there is much difference between Wii U and Switch.
Re: Premium Gaming Journal 'Lock-On' Is On Course For A Third Volume
I have a friend who works on these. I have the first 2. Really recommended. They are a great team.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 29th)
Ecco the dolphin on x360
Borderlands 3 on ps4
Metroid Dread on switch
Super Mario Galaxy on wii
Re: Microsoft Buys Activision Blizzard, Now Owns Call Of Duty And Crash Bandicoot
Come on Nintendo. Buy up the Castlevania rights before Microsoft takes over Konami 😁
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 15th)
Sleeping Dogs on 360 to get the final achievements.
Cod Infinite Warfare on ps4 to finally give it a go.
Metroid Dread on switch to finally make some progress for first time in a few weeks.
Re: Best Of 2021: What Is The Zelda 'Formula'? We Break Down The Secret Recipe
Nice shot at Zelda 2 at the end
Re: Best Of 2021: New Super Mario Bros. Is 15 Years Old, And It's Still Fantastic
I remember buying this on day 1 in 2006. Tbh I felt ripped off. It was too easy and too short and using the collectibles as an excuse for increasing game length wasn't gonna work.
It had nice ideas like the mega mushroom and the 3d character models but it is an average game for a mario game.
Thankfully Mario U finally got it right.
Re: Best Of 2021: Retro Nintendo Games Cost Too Much, But Nostalgia Is Expensive
One thing I never understood was why Nintendo and other companies didn't re-release games when they ran on the same console.
Why during the Wii era did they not release Paper Mario 2, Viewtiful Joe, Ikaruga, Luigi's Mansion 1 as Wii titles and just put a originally on Gamecube image on the cover.
I understood why they wouldn't do this with games being updated, eg Pikmin 1 and 2 but why not release the games again to give them that second chance.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 25th Holiday Special)
Metroid Dread. Got it today.
Re: Best Of 2021: Retro Nintendo Games Cost Too Much, But Nostalgia Is Expensive
The last 2 years haven't helped either. I bought Paper Mario 2 again in 2017 for 35 pounds. I gave it to my cousin for her birthday the next year as I wanted it to stay in the family rather than be sold to a stranger.
I checked it on ebay a few months ago and it was at 60 pounds.
I'm as speechless as Princess Jasmine .
Re: Commodore 64 Games Are Being Teased For Nintendo Switch
I got Mayhem in Monsterland on the Wii VC right away. I would love to play more one day though.
Re: Bill Gates Apparently Put "A Lot Of Pressure" On Xbox's Team Leaders To Respond To The Wii Craze
Microsoft's story is scarily like Sega's. First console did well but had no chance next to the biggest rival (master system v nes and xbox v ps2), then started extremely well but was eventually outsold worldwide (mega drive v snes and 360 v ps3) because they put a lot of focus on an add on rather than focusing entirely on the games in the run up to the next true console (mega cd and 32x v snes just releasing games and not bothering with an add on), and this resulting in a botched launch for the true follow up (saturn and x1) that they did everything to fix for the console after (dreamcast and series x/s).
Fortunately Microsoft are going nowhere. They have the money to survive it. Sadly Sega didn't despite how good the Dreamcast was and with Sony clearly being keen to kill the Dreamcast ASAP.
I'm glad Microsoft have turned it round. I was one of the many people to go from ps2 to 360 to ps4 and then (in a few months time) series x.
Its a shame about Sega but it is scary to see how similar Microsoft's story is to Sega. But the lesson is clear.
Re: Video: Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Official Movie Trailer Released
Sounds a bit like Sonic 3. I'm looking forward to the Robotnik and Knuckles interactions.
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection Is Coming To Switch
I bought these new on ps4 for 12 pounds in April. It will never be that cheap on Switch, at least not for a very long time.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
Zelda 2, Spirit Tracks and Triforce Heroes.
I would have liked spirit tracks more if it weren't for the awful pipe blowing parts. Much like mine kart jumping on Skyward Sword on wii, I just couldn't get any further than that.
Zelda 2 I hated. Awkward controls for side scrolling fights, very difficult fights and just not any fun. I felt like the graphics were actually worse in 2 as well.
And Triforce heroes I hated. Too dependant on other players and simply nothing on four swords adventure.
Re: Talking Point: Mario Kart 7 And Its Infamous Course Skip Are Now 10 Years Old
I always preferred DS but this was still fun. That 3D depth effect is outstanding.
Re: Former Metroid Prime Engineer Admits He Was "Disappointed" With The Wii's Specs
I'm not surprised. The devs must have heard what the xbox 360 was gonna do in 2005 and assumed the Revolution would be the same.
The Wii was a great console but if it was around the 360s power level, we could have had games like Borderlands and Red Dead Redemption 1 on there and maybe the same team would have all stayed at Retro Studios
Re: Review: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl - A Middling Pair Of Remakes
What is it that some of the pro exp share people don't understand about why we don't want it on all the time?
Like people have said, it makes the game too easy, causes pokemon we don't want levelled up to get stronger, affects ev training and doesn't fit with the original feel for the game.
If you are happy with exp share, that's brilliant but its pretty obvious why a lot of us don't want it forced on us.
Re: Review: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl - A Middling Pair Of Remakes
I'm sticking with Metroid Dread as my requested Xmas game
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Switch Remaster Is "Wrapped Up" According To Industry Insider
Please don't do a repeat of Gears of War 1 and only do the first one.
All three of these deserve another chance.