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Probably will be getting some of the games that never went on sale in the US before: Cadence, Yooka-Laylee, Sayonara, and Edith Finch.

Went with Europe, but in retrospect they all could've been a lot better. The only one with all the characters is Japan, but they're all separated into their own boxes, which really doesn't give that Smash feel. NA and EU have the battle going on, but are each missing characters. The battle on the EU cover looks more chaotic, so that gets my vote in the end, even though I really don't like that black border.

@BulbasaurusRex Judging from your comments, I'm not sure you understand how emulation works, so I will try to explain. The individual games do not interact with the Switch's architecture at all. The emulator is built for the Switch's architecture, and then the games "plug in" to the emulator. You can think of the emulator as like a digital NES. Nintendo has built the emulator so that it functions as a replica of an NES within the Switch. The games were tested to work with an NES decades ago when they were made, so they will work exactly the same in the emulator, provided that the emulator was built correctly. As the NES and SNES do not have very complex architecture, it goes without saying that the emulators Nintendo have created are fully functioning. They had some problems emulating the Super FX chip a few years back, because that chip was not part of the SNES's architecture, but instead within the games that used them. We've got games like Star Fox now, so obviously they've ironed that out. You keep mentioning restore points, but again, the restore points do not directly interact with the games at all, so there is nothing to check. Once the emulator knows how to use the restore points correctly, the emulator handles it and you are done. They will work for any ROM you stick in the emulator.

You mainly hear about emulation bugs with emulators that are mimicking more complex hardware, like an N64, GameCube, or Wii. The bugs happen because the emulators are not perfect replicas of those systems yet. Developers could make games that used those hardwares in lots of complicated and unique ways, so occasionally you'll get a game that an emulator can't handle because it's trying to do something that the emulator is currently incapable of. So people slowly find these bugs and tweak the emulators until they're perfect and all games work. This process is already done for the NES and SNES emulators since they are not really complicated.

As for my last statement about working 8 hours a day, that was just me being facetious. Of course no one is doing that, because they don't need to! I'm sure Nintendo has their own reasons for why they are holding a lot of games back and releasing them slowly. But it is 100% not because it is some arduous process for them to do it. I really think they are eventually planning to make their own subscription service, either on top of or separate from NSO. They don't want to give it all away for free while they're planning to monetize it later.

@BulbasaurusRex The Switch does have different architecture, but they do not really need to do everything all over again, nor is it really time consuming. For Wii and Wii U, every VC game you purchased came with an individual emulator. For Switch, the NES and SNES apps each come with one emulator that all the ROMs plug into. I believe it has been confirmed that these Switch emulators are the same ones used on the mini classic consoles. So any games from the mini consoles are already done, and any new games take minimal work and testing, as basically all NES games and most SNES games are simplistic enough that you really can just plug them into an emulator and they will work. Things don’t get dicey until you hit SNES games with special chips or N64 games. Save states, rewind, and all that other stuff is handled at the emulator level, so you do not need to do anything once it’s initially set up. It will work with all games automatically. It’s not like they have to individually port each VC game over from Wii or Wii U. They already have their emulators running on Switch, so the hard work is done. Do you really think in the year 2019 some poor guy at Nintendo was working 8 hours a day for three months just to get Journey to Silius working on Switch?

@BulbasaurusRex Well yeah, I’m sure it takes a little bit of time to test and do QA and stuff, but I don’t think it’s a massive undertaking, especially for a big company with the resources of Nintendo, and especially since they’ve already released a lot of these games up to three times previously (Wii, Wii U, 3DS) so they’ve gotten some experience with emulating.

I’ve kind of grown to like the subscription service model though. I already buy a ton of games, so the thought of purchasing individual retro games as well sends my wallet running. It’s pretty nice to just automatically get everything as part of the service, and then you can choose what to play or ignore. The possibility of losing access sucks, but you have to think they’ll continue this service on their next console if it’s successful enough. And the depth of the library is pretty so-so - fine for $20 a year as a perk to NSO, not great for someone looking to have a more comprehensive library akin to what we used to have on Virtual Console.

@DrDaisy If you mean in my profile pic, it’s called Roof Rage. It’s on the eShop, definitely worth checking out if you’re interested.

@Hughesy Maybe they were Joy Con(doms).

Thanks, I'll see my way out...

I think NSO and Nintendo's handling of their legacy content kind of get lumped together into one issue since Nintendo decided to tie them together, but I think it's kind of two different arguments.

For $20 a year, NSO is an excellent value IMO. Even if they only gave us 20 NES and 20 SNES and then stopped, that would still be worth it. Honestly it's probably worth it just for the online play and cloud saves.

But I think a lot of frustration comes from the fact that Nintendo is just sitting on a treasure trove of awesome legacy content and not giving us any legitimate way to access it. Seeing your favorite games getting trickled out over months and years is just torture. I don't think anyone is claiming we should get Nintendo's entire back catalogue for free (or at least I hope not). Most of us just want a way to play these games on our Switches, even if it costs more (buying individual games or a beefed up subscription service).

@Friendly I'm only basing my logic off of what they did with the NES games. The NES service also launched with them dropping 20 games at once, same as with the SNES games. But then they immediately started releasing 3 NES games per month after that, something that did NOT happen with the SNES. So again, it's not like I'm demanding something more, I was just expecting them to do exactly the same thing they were already doing, not less.

TL;DR version:
NES = 20 at launch + 3 per month for 1 year
SNES = 20 at launch + nothing for 3 months + 4 in Dec.

@brandonbwii It's called Roof Rage. It's on the eShop, definitely worth a look!

@Friendly They also dropped a bunch of NES games at the start too, then added around 3 per month after that. SNES got the initial dump of 20, but then no updates. If they still added games monthly, we probably would've been getting our 7th, 8th, and 9th new SNES games this month, but instead we're just getting our first 4. It's no biggie to me, I don't have enough time to play them all anyway, but I think it would be cool in general to have a more comprehensive library.

It's hard to complain about getting more games. The more the merrier! And it's a pretty good selection this time, too. Still though, 6 games is about 2 months worth of updates, and we waited 3 months to get it. And who knows when the next one will come. Unless there's some reason we don't know about for holding back games and slowly drip feeding them, I think they should be trying to pick up the pace, not slow down.

Nintendo: “Remember our SNES game service? Yeah, we didn’t either. But we still want your money tho. Sooooooo... F-Zero? What do you mean it’s already been on there for 3 months?”

I'm pretty sure this game has a demo, so if anyone is on the fence, definitely try that first.

NOA, why is my money still in my wallet? Let's get these deals moving!

Alwa's Awakening was great, and this looks even better! I'm on board for this one!

I think this game looks pretty cool, and I plan on getting it. The flaws mentioned in this review are noted, but all other reviews I've read for this game have been nowhere near as negative.

@Kienda There's also an official Nintendo store in Seoul, Korea that was actually the second one opened. Everyone forgets about it for some reason, probably because it is small and not that interesting, haha.

@NEStalgia Maybe just some lighthearted trolling, but I would be totally stoked for a new Okami!

@Dayshader Looks like you might get your wish, according to Twitter, they want to do it!

Mentioned already in the European article, but Roof Rage (which is not even listed here for some reason) for me, probably among many others. This is a good week!

Don't sleep on Roof Rage (the game I've had in my profile pic for what feels like forever)! It's too bad the press release didn't have a blurb for it, but if you like platform fighters, it's worth a look!

I tried the demo and thought it was interesting, but not enough to make me want to buy it. I did download it on Apple Arcade though, so I've been playing it a bit on my MacBook. We'll see if it grabs me enough to finish it. If I do end up liking it more, I could definitely see myself buying it on Switch for another playthrough, to support the devs.

I picked up The Room and Planet Alpha (and had Yooka-Laylee since launch). Only played YL once and never went back to it. That's not saying anything negative about the game, just got distracted with other stuff. I'll give it another chance eventually. Didn't play The Room at all yet. I did beat Planet Alpha though, and it was a decidedly average game. Again, that's not necessarily a negative thing, just using the word average literally. If you find the world of the game appealing, then it's probably worth it to explore. Otherwise I found that it was not terrible by any means, but also nothing hugely special (aside from the gorgeous setting).

I've been playing so much For The King lately, I'd really recommend that one!

I’ve got just over half of these games at 26 out of 50. I don’t want to admit how many I’ve actually finished haha.

Will be picking up Slay the Spire, Collection of Mana, and Songbird Symphony from the US eShop. Though I wish this UK sale was happening in the US too, it's probably for the better that it isn't. If we had those games too, I'd probably also get What Remains of Edith Finch, Timespinner, Castlevania Anniversary Collection, Inside, and Limbo. That's way too much, haha.

@StephanDLW Yeah, I agree. I think most players will treat it as a fun diversion or gimmick, but they're not going to significantly play in that mode (though I would be happy to be proven wrong). It's really cool that they went through the effort to put it in there, but now that I realize how difficult it was, I kinda feel bad that it might not be appreciated as much as it should be.

I wish the versions of Dragon Quest I, II, and III that are coming out looked like this in 2D. I'm usually not a big stickler about graphics, but man those games look really off-putting.

I had an eye on this one. I'll see if any other sites bother to review it so I can compare and contrast before I make a decision. Not off to a good start though with the take given here.

Looks gorgeous (I mean the art style, not all the pollution, haha)

Also, the MK11 Kombat Pack is on sale by itself. So if you bought MK11 physical but haven't picked up the DLC yet, you can get just the Kombat Pack for a little bit cheaper. I don't know why, but you don't often see DLC on sale by itself on Switch, so this is nice. I picked it up.

Already filled up one of these bad boys. I need that 1TB to come down in price.

@RickD That’s definitely true to some extent, and maybe I’m just being naive to think that reviewers don’t let that outside stuff influence them. I certainly hope that’s not the case, but I don’t know the deep ins and outs of the video game journalism industry.

And I think we might actually be agreeing here. I’m also basically saying to be wary of individual reviews. But looking at bulk reviews, in addition to doing some of your own research (gameplay, forums, demos, etc.), should give you enough info to paint a good picture for yourself. Basically, if one person is going to decide if you buy a game or not, shouldn’t that person be you and not Dom Reseigh-Lincoln? (Just as an example, not calling out Dom or anything.)

Also, not to get too sidetracked on Starlink, but I do think it’s kind of a unique example. I wouldn’t rate it a 9/10 personally, but it’s a solid game, certainly not deserving of the $10 bargain bin. I really think the toys, combined with unclear marketing about all the different versions of the game and how necessary the toys were really sunk it. Less focus on the toys and more focus on Star Fox and gameplay would have done it better IMO.

@RickD Well, that also doesn't mean that it's a bad game, just that it didn't sell well. Regardless, my main point here wasn't to defend NL. I also disagree with their reviews at times. The point I was trying to make is that a NL review is just one person's opinion, so to decide that Overland is bad or Starlink is good just because of a number that one person decided on is kind of silly IMO. Visit a review aggregator site, read a bunch of reviews, look at screenshots, watch trailers and gameplay, read comments from people who have played the game firsthand. Whatever you have the time and patience for. Then you're better informed to decide if a game is for you or not.

But if you're just like "well, NL gave Overland a 6/10, so it has a 0% chance of being entertaining" or "NL gave Starlink a 9/10 but I didn't like it, so NL is bad at reviewing" then you might not understand the concept of reviews (not you personally, just using a general you).

@VoodooTrumpet Why, because it's a bad game because NL gave it a 6/10? For reference, 6/10 doesn't mean a game is bad (in NL's own rating system, a 6/10 is literally labeled as "Not Bad"), and the three scores for the Switch version of this game currently in Metacritic are 90, 80, and 80. I'm not saying this is a bad review, everyone has their own reactions to games and forms their own opinions about them. But it is silly to take one number from one review done by one guy as the ultimate judgment of the quality of a game.

I found out about this game while I was down a YouTube rabbit hole about a week ago. I'm intrigued!

While it doesn't look quite as polished as a Zelda title would be, I really like the looks of this! Another one to add to the list.

Despite being yet another pixel art metroidvania, I kind of like the look of this one. I will definitely keep an eye on it.

I didn't want to deal with all the Labo stuff, but I might potentially get this depending on the price. I'm not a huge fan of VR, but I'm kind of interested to see what it's like on the Switch.

@theberrage It's called Roof Rage. Will eventually be coming to Switch, so I'm keeping my eyes peeled for it.

Looks fantastic, but since it gives the same unlocks as the regular Shovel Knight amiibo (which I already have), I think I'm gonna pass on it. I may end up regretting it though.

Oh man, sorting option finally! Now if we could only hide all those SP games, or put them into some kind of sub-menu under the main game.

It would be silly not to bring these over, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

If it does something different than the original, I will most likely get it. If not, I will have to think about it.

I’m assuming the tag line of the press release was “Our student body is ready!”

This is great! My two biggest takeaways:

1. Konami, a major video game company, is aware of the Switch, a major video game console. Good to have that confirmed.

2. Because there is no Switch version of PES, that means there is no Switch version of PES. (Seriously, that last sentence is just pure gold!)

Supermarkets better stock up on ramen noodles, cuz that’s all we’re gonna be able to afford to eat for the next month

September 20: The day our wallets band together and rise up in protest.

Also September 20: The day that protest is swiftly crushed when we rip them open and take all their money.

@antdickens Probably cuz Sony censored their version

@Chunkboi79 It's called Roof Rage. Supposedly coming to the Switch "very soon" according to the developer. It's been on my radar for a long time.