I would expect to see many PS4 games get the port across, but not too many current-gen games due to the CPU and GPU limitations. Don't expect GTA 6, but maybe RDR2. The Witcher 4 would barely run on a more powerful Series S, so Switch 2 would be a no-no.
I much preferred the linear style of sword and shield with open zones, as the open world attempts at Pokémon tend to be quite empty and barren. It is a great achievement, though.
@Kid_Sickarus The fact that you have to pay the full amount upfront means that if you have money right now, you might have a chance. I think that as people get paid in the next few days, the stores with stock will sell out soon. Smyths sold through all their in-store pre-orders, as you only had to pay £20. I went on the 3rd April in the evening, and I was the 2nd from last person to get a pre-order in based allocation that the store got for launch day.
Is this common? Or is the developer/publisher just trying to push submit an unfinished product? Clearly something bigger is up if Nintendo are rejecting the game. They let on shovel ware.
Just to be clear you can insert the gamecards for Switch 1 and 2 in both systems. The notch changes are for the system to understand what card has been inserted into that system, not to prevent a card being put into a system - so yes you can put a Switch 2 card in the Swich 1 port - it will only work where the publisher puts both ports on one card though (hence why Nintendo won't publices this to ensure consumers aren't confused).
The reason that Rune Factory is using the 64GB card for this game is that, in this instance, both the Switch one version and the upgrade are going onto this card.
You can play any Switch 2 edition games in Switch 1, and it just strips out the Switch 2 upgrade pack.
Hope that clears things up for anyone unsure or misinformed.
It will be a good barometer of what the Switch 2 can do. I have been enjoying the game on Xbox, and it's good to see Switch 2 players get the option to purchase the game if they want to. I know there are naysayers, but just because they won't, doesn't mean you can't.
Good luck to my NLife friends in America and Canada securing your Switch 2 pre-order!
On another note, I think they did the smart thing, increasing accessories slightly and taking a bigger loss on the console rather than the other way around. None of it is good, but the optics would have looked much worse if the console were $50 more. $450/£396 is a reasonable price considering it is a home console and a portable console. It offers as much if not a bit more, than a Steam Deck, which is in the same price bracket.
$500/£500/Euros seems to be around the hard limit for the mass market. The PS5 pro offering far more supply than demand has shown that. If you are throwing $/£800 on just a console with a disc drive, you probably would pay a bit more to get a PC anyway.
It's a win win situation. Nintendo fans gets the Xbox games that personally like and MS get more money on the software which is much more profitable than any hardware.
@joeyflannel Maybe after via social media, but the show would have already been pre-recorded, and it wouldn't make sense to give a country-only update for a global stream.
Coming from Sony, who have been adding a number on the end of each console, and making each one a bit more powerful than the last? Okay former Sony executive we believe you.
One thing I can tell you is that there is nothing innovative about PS5 games. Even Astro Bot is a Mario-like.
I sold my PS5 recently as it's not offering any games I am interested in. I decided the money is better invested in the number of Switch games I am interested in.
The JRPGS I can get on PS5, I can get on my Switch/Switch 2, and the AAA exceptions can be brought on my Xbox.
Hopefully, the PS6 generation will offer some new IP to get interested in rather than sequels/remakes and remasters.
@Cakefish Depends what country you are based in really. The UK and US along with Japan has significant stockpiles already in their countries with respective retailers able to bid for allocations based on guaranteed pre orders (hence pre orders happening in waves). The Nintendo store stock comes from that same stock pile. The good news is for these particular countries is that units are only allocated on a pre order basis due to demand. In the UK as an example the first shipment allocation was around 200,000 in January from China (no high tariffs). UK retailers can provide pre orders for the allocations they are given. Currys got 15,000 while Argos and Amazon got around 25,000. Smyth's got 20,000 and I think Game for 15,000. Other retailers got smaller amounts. Once the allocations sell out they can request more.
The main reason I got an Xbox is you can get cheaper 3rd party controllers with trigger stops. It's so much better for almost all genres. Even with Cyberpunk 2077 the acceleration of cars is adapted in a way that it doesn't matter how far you press the triggers. This can also be adapted for the Switch version for any car based games.
Also, Switch Up confirmed in their London Event video that the d-pad was greatly improved while playing SF6.
I will avoid it because I'll be buying digital. The game key is very much like the PS and Xbox game you download and then you must insert the disc. The disc doesn't have much on it beyond the licence key so you can resell. Of course you'll need internet to download the product like PS or Xbox.
The Switch 2 price is good value. The Xbox Series X and S prices are good value, The PS5 is good value. The PS5 Pro, while being expensive, is good for the performance it delivers.
Console gaming offers better per £/$ value on the hardware.
You generally pay more for hardware per TFLOP and get cheaper software with P,C or you get cheaper hardware per TFLOP and more expensive games.
The console is of course, more mass market friendly, not having to mess with a wide range of settings.
Both have pros and cons, but overall, the Switch 2 outperforms the Steam Deck at a similar price. And will outsell the SD's 4million lifetime units in a day or two.
Why are so many people triggered by a Youtuber? My brother is a popular Animal Crossing Youtuber and has just bought himself a 3 bedroom house with savings to spare in his mid 20s. it is a "real job" that in some cases pays very well.
I'm feeling increasingly grateful I was able to do an in store pre order at Smyths last Thursday! The store I went to has sold out its allocation for day one launch.
FYI for everyone else in the UK the standard Switch 2 is still available at Argos right now but will go quick!
Argos take full payment upfront - Only Smyths lets you pay on dispatch or a £20 deposit in store. Smyths had a couple of online and in store batches but have sold out now. Only some store in NI are allowing pre orders now. I am glad I got my instore pre order last Thursday before they sold through allocation. I only had to pay £20 too and will have to pay the rest when I pick it up on the 5th.
The UK prices don't bother me, but it's fair if it's not worth enough value for someone else. The market will decide as usual. What I won't tolerate is someone telling me I'm stupid for how much I choose to spend on a hobby of mine. That is not logical or reasonable.
Out of about the 35 controllers I have owned across PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox, 2 have drifted, and that happened after I dropped them on the floor.
Update looks like Smyth's are sold out of in store pre orders now too but Currys still accepting pre orders with full payment upfront and day 1 launch.
@BaldB3lper78 Argos and Game want the money up front too, only Smyths don't require the full payment online, but in store I had to pay a £20 deposit. I think this is because it's a very high-demand product, and they want to be able to request allocation based on guaranteed orders.
The UK is the 3rd largest Nintendo market behind the US and Japan, so retailers will be requesting as many units as they can get (supply won't meet demand in these countries even at current prices).
I guess there are 2 ways to look at it. Sony gives away free games but lays off thousands of staff. Nintendo charges for all its games but has no major layoffs, studio closures, and high staff satisfaction.
As consumers we pay for staff wellbeing as well as shareholder wellbeing. The well-being of staff in the future will depend on the balancing act of pricing and price resistance on the consumer part. Given most retailers go below the RRP for Nintendo games, I think the pricing issues will die down pretty quickly.
Did we get spoiled with Astro Bot? for sure we did. I think we all would prefer to get as much for free as possible, but I would rather pay £5 and keep Nintendo developers in jobs long term.
Nintendo doesn't always make popular business decisions, but they make the right ones for staff stability.
@Mana_Knight I doubt they will get very far yet, considering you can walk into Smyths or Currys and pre-order. We will only see the actual effect of scalping when launch day comes.
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Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Currys in the UK have an online bundle for £569 available at the moment, you pay the full amount upfront now and delivery is for launch day.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Smyths in the UK have some online restock right now. UK getting the last couple of waves of restock for launch day consoles now.
Re: Feature: "We’re Very Confident" - CD Projekt Red On Delivering The Full Cyberpunk 2077 Experience On Switch 2
I would expect to see many PS4 games get the port across, but not too many current-gen games due to the CPU and GPU limitations. Don't expect GTA 6, but maybe RDR2. The Witcher 4 would barely run on a more powerful Series S, so Switch 2 would be a no-no.
Re: Nintendo Defends Switch 2's Perceived Lack Of Innovation
Sometimes evolution is better than revolution.
Re: PSA: My Nintendo Store Switch 2 Invites Are Starting To Roll Out
Feels wild that I did my pre-order in the UK over a month ago now.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Is Now The Second-Best Selling Game In The Series
I much preferred the linear style of sword and shield with open zones, as the open world attempts at Pokémon tend to be quite empty and barren. It is a great achievement, though.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Feeling grateful, I live in the UK. It looks rough in Japan and the US right now.
Re: eBay Is Already Flooded With Switch 2 Pre-Orders At Ridiculous Prices
Glad the UK pre-order situation was decent enough, where it wasn't nuts like Japan and the US.
Re: Japanese My Nintendo Store Goes Down Amidst Switch 2 Lottery Frenzy
@Kid_Sickarus The fact that you have to pay the full amount upfront means that if you have money right now, you might have a chance. I think that as people get paid in the next few days, the stores with stock will sell out soon. Smyths sold through all their in-store pre-orders, as you only had to pay £20. I went on the 3rd April in the evening, and I was the 2nd from last person to get a pre-order in based allocation that the store got for launch day.
Re: Japanese My Nintendo Store Goes Down Amidst Switch 2 Lottery Frenzy
@OldGamer999 I got mine from Smyths instore for £20 which was good.
Re: Japanese My Nintendo Store Goes Down Amidst Switch 2 Lottery Frenzy
I am not surprised that the Japanese version is so popular, given the cheaper price.
Re: "Frustrating" Nintendo Cert Process Causes Last-Minute Switch Delay For 'Old Skies'
Is this common? Or is the developer/publisher just trying to push submit an unfinished product? Clearly something bigger is up if Nintendo are rejecting the game. They let on shovel ware.
Re: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered Is Set To Be Officially Announced Tomorrow
I plan on trying the game on Gamepass but if it does come to Switch 2 in the future, I might pick it up on that.
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Switch 2 Cart Will Apparently Also Work On Switch 1
Just to be clear you can insert the gamecards for Switch 1 and 2 in both systems. The notch changes are for the system to understand what card has been inserted into that system, not to prevent a card being put into a system - so yes you can put a Switch 2 card in the Swich 1 port - it will only work where the publisher puts both ports on one card though (hence why Nintendo won't publices this to ensure consumers aren't confused).
The reason that Rune Factory is using the 64GB card for this game is that, in this instance, both the Switch one version and the upgrade are going onto this card.
You can play any Switch 2 edition games in Switch 1, and it just strips out the Switch 2 upgrade pack.
Hope that clears things up for anyone unsure or misinformed.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Switch 2 Rating Spotted Online
It will be a good barometer of what the Switch 2 can do. I have been enjoying the game on Xbox, and it's good to see Switch 2 players get the option to purchase the game if they want to. I know there are naysayers, but just because they won't, doesn't mean you can't.
Re: MicroSD Express Cards Are Selling Out Thanks To Switch 2 Fever
Still plenty to pre-order or buy in the UK if anyone needs one:
Sandisk: https://tinyurl.com/5h6byvtt (128 & 256GB)
Smyths: https://tinyurl.com/3cwbfn3j (256GB)
Argos: https://tinyurl.com/4jh4semk (256GB)
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
Good luck to my NLife friends in America and Canada securing your Switch 2 pre-order!
On another note, I think they did the smart thing, increasing accessories slightly and taking a bigger loss on the console rather than the other way around. None of it is good, but the optics would have looked much worse if the console were $50 more. $450/£396 is a reasonable price considering it is a home console and a portable console. It offers as much if not a bit more, than a Steam Deck, which is in the same price bracket.
$500/£500/Euros seems to be around the hard limit for the mass market. The PS5 pro offering far more supply than demand has shown that. If you are throwing $/£800 on just a console with a disc drive, you probably would pay a bit more to get a PC anyway.
Re: Nintendo's Quiet 2024 Led To 26% Drop In Physical Game Sales (UK)
Okay armchair accountants, get your notebooks ready!
Re: "Nintendo Has Been A Great Partner" - Phil Spencer Reiterates Switch 2 Support
It's a win win situation. Nintendo fans gets the Xbox games that personally like and MS get more money on the software which is much more profitable than any hardware.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Duration For Tomorrow's Mario Kart World Direct
@joeyflannel Maybe after via social media, but the show would have already been pre-recorded, and it wouldn't make sense to give a country-only update for a global stream.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
I would be curious to hear from the AA/AAA devs to see if/when they will support Switch 2
Re: Sony Vet Shuhei Yoshida Says Nintendo Is "Losing Their Identity" With Switch 2
Coming from Sony, who have been adding a number on the end of each console, and making each one a bit more powerful than the last? Okay former Sony executive we believe you.
One thing I can tell you is that there is nothing innovative about PS5 games. Even Astro Bot is a Mario-like.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Happy 400th comment!
Edit: well, it was until 2 comments got deleted...
Re: PS5 Digital Edition Now More Expensive Than Switch 2 In UK & Europe
I sold my PS5 recently as it's not offering any games I am interested in. I decided the money is better invested in the number of Switch games I am interested in.
The JRPGS I can get on PS5, I can get on my Switch/Switch 2, and the AAA exceptions can be brought on my Xbox.
Hopefully, the PS6 generation will offer some new IP to get interested in rather than sequels/remakes and remasters.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@Cakefish Depends what country you are based in really. The UK and US along with Japan has significant stockpiles already in their countries with respective retailers able to bid for allocations based on guaranteed pre orders (hence pre orders happening in waves). The Nintendo store stock comes from that same stock pile. The good news is for these particular countries is that units are only allocated on a pre order basis due to demand. In the UK as an example the first shipment allocation was around 200,000 in January from China (no high tariffs). UK retailers can provide pre orders for the allocations they are given. Currys got 15,000 while Argos and Amazon got around 25,000. Smyth's got 20,000 and I think Game for 15,000. Other retailers got smaller amounts. Once the allocations sell out they can request more.
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
The main reason I got an Xbox is you can get cheaper 3rd party controllers with trigger stops. It's so much better for almost all genres. Even with Cyberpunk 2077 the acceleration of cars is adapted in a way that it doesn't matter how far you press the triggers. This can also be adapted for the Switch version for any car based games.
Also, Switch Up confirmed in their London Event video that the d-pad was greatly improved while playing SF6.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
I will avoid it because I'll be buying digital. The game key is very much like the PS and Xbox game you download and then you must insert the disc. The disc doesn't have much on it beyond the licence key so you can resell. Of course you'll need internet to download the product like PS or Xbox.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
The Switch 2 price is good value. The Xbox Series X and S prices are good value, The PS5 is good value. The PS5 Pro, while being expensive, is good for the performance it delivers.
Console gaming offers better per £/$ value on the hardware.
You generally pay more for hardware per TFLOP and get cheaper software with P,C or you get cheaper hardware per TFLOP and more expensive games.
The console is of course, more mass market friendly, not having to mess with a wide range of settings.
Both have pros and cons, but overall, the Switch 2 outperforms the Steam Deck at a similar price. And will outsell the SD's 4million lifetime units in a day or two.
Re: My Nintendo Adds A Switch 2 Reward (North America)
This is a great apology to affected US customers haha.
Re: Random: Of Course Nintendo Fans Are Already Camping Out For The Switch 2
@SupDan Finally a based comment haha.
Re: Random: Of Course Nintendo Fans Are Already Camping Out For The Switch 2
Why are so many people triggered by a Youtuber? My brother is a popular Animal Crossing Youtuber and has just bought himself a 3 bedroom house with savings to spare in his mid 20s. it is a "real job" that in some cases pays very well.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
I'm feeling increasingly grateful I was able to do an in store pre order at Smyths last Thursday! The store I went to has sold out its allocation for day one launch.
Re: UK Switch 2 Fans, Don't Bother Going To GAME Stores For Your Pre-Order
I got my pre order In store from Smyths as they are much more reliable than Game. Plus they only charged me £20 for the deposit.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@lemonjellydude Glad you got one!
FYI for everyone else in the UK the standard Switch 2 is still available at Argos right now but will go quick!
Argos take full payment upfront - Only Smyths lets you pay on dispatch or a £20 deposit in store. Smyths had a couple of online and in store batches but have sold out now. Only some store in NI are allowing pre orders now. I am glad I got my instore pre order last Thursday before they sold through allocation. I only had to pay £20 too and will have to pay the rest when I pick it up on the 5th.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@lemonjellydude Looks like Game has some on their website now - check there before they sell out!
Re: Upgrade Pack Price For Zelda: BOTW And TOTK Has Been Confirmed
Come on NLife give us some UK prices!
Re: Nintendo Confirms US Price For 'Switch 2 Welcome Tour'
Looks like the price for the UK will be between £6.99- 9.99.
Re: Nintendo Comments On Mario Kart World's Controversial Price
The UK prices don't bother me, but it's fair if it's not worth enough value for someone else. The market will decide as usual. What I won't tolerate is someone telling me I'm stupid for how much I choose to spend on a hobby of mine. That is not logical or reasonable.
Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
I'm grateful I don't live in America. Hopefully everything gets sorted out there as soon as possible.
Re: It's Official, Switch 2 Joy-Con Will Not Feature Hall Effect Sticks
Out of about the 35 controllers I have owned across PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox, 2 have drifted, and that happened after I dropped them on the floor.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Update looks like Smyth's are sold out of in store pre orders now too but Currys still accepting pre orders with full payment upfront and day 1 launch.
Re: Switch 2 Game Cart Max Capacity Is 64GB, Says CD Projekt Red
I'm mostly digital only now and that looks to increase more heavily with most gamecarts just a licence anyways.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@lemonjellydude Smyth's and Currys should be still doing in store pre orders if you can get to one.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@BaldB3lper78 Argos and Game want the money up front too, only Smyths don't require the full payment online, but in store I had to pay a £20 deposit. I think this is because it's a very high-demand product, and they want to be able to request allocation based on guaranteed orders.
The UK is the 3rd largest Nintendo market behind the US and Japan, so retailers will be requesting as many units as they can get (supply won't meet demand in these countries even at current prices).
Re: Nintendo Appears To Have Given Its Game Cases A Makeover On Switch 2
I like the new design. It will be clear to casual consumers that these are the latest games on the newest console, with the "2" front and center.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@lemonjellydude You can walk into Smyths or Currys and pre order.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
Who needs scalpers when you have tariffs.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
I guess there are 2 ways to look at it. Sony gives away free games but lays off thousands of staff. Nintendo charges for all its games but has no major layoffs, studio closures, and high staff satisfaction.
As consumers we pay for staff wellbeing as well as shareholder wellbeing. The well-being of staff in the future will depend on the balancing act of pricing and price resistance on the consumer part. Given most retailers go below the RRP for Nintendo games, I think the pricing issues will die down pretty quickly.
Did we get spoiled with Astro Bot? for sure we did. I think we all would prefer to get as much for free as possible, but I would rather pay £5 and keep Nintendo developers in jobs long term.
Nintendo doesn't always make popular business decisions, but they make the right ones for staff stability.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@Mana_Knight I doubt they will get very far yet, considering you can walk into Smyths or Currys and pre-order. We will only see the actual effect of scalping when launch day comes.
Re: Digital Switch 2 Games Being Cheaper Than Physical Is A "Challenge", Says Retailer GAME
I didn't know game was still around haha. You can get all the Switch 2 game apart from Mario Kart World at Smyths for £64.99.