I never complained about looking for stuff in a collectathon.
I complained about putting 100-200 extra moons in a store with a currency you need to grind to buy them with.
That’s not part of a collectathon philosophy. Finding them IS.
@N00BiSH dude you’re complaining about having to find things in a collectathon. Sure, not all blue coins are a winner… but it’s still better than grinding. Waaaay better. Some can be tedious, sure, but not mundane or repetitive.
And no, it’s 999 moons. Sure, the reward is just minor (but that’s 100%) Just as minor as in Sunshine or 64. If you just want to finish the game, sure, just go for 70 stars or 124 moons. But for the real 100%, which has been our argument here… again… actual gameplay and “pixel hunting” …. Or 3-5 hour grinding?
It’s your choice. I definitely know which one I prefer.
@N00BiSH it IS needed to 100% the game. You 100% the game when you reach 1000 moons or bananas. If you’re using that argument then in Mario 64, if you just wanted to finish the game then you don’t need to find 100 coins in each level… you can still finish the game at 70 stars.
So, wrong again.
And collecting 100 coins is neither pixel hunting nor grinding. Come on, like I said, there’s packs of 5 and 10 coins scattered in the levels. If you find that particularly difficult, then I don’t know what to say. You can easily complete all 100-coin challenges in 30-60 minutes.
Grinding for those extra moons and Bananas? Mhhh around 3 hours repeating ad nauseum.
@N00BiSH if you’re not saying that… then why are you even arguing?
Let me know… which is more of a slog:
Collecting 100 coins 10 times?
Or grinding for 5 hours in the same spot, doing the same mundane task that nets you more coins to buy 200 moons or bananas?
Which actually stands as a challenge and requires actual gameplay?
I’ll let you think about that one.
And I love collectathons. My favorite games are Banjo Kazooie and, as I said, I love all Marios.
Does grinding 200 moons and bananas get a pass because of that?
No it doesn’t. It’s just bad post-game design. And it’s just to artificially make the game last longer.
@N00BiSH LMAO you’re complaining about 10…. 10 stars in a game… If that were the case I could easily find 10 moons in Oddisey that are worse or in the same level of a slog.
And… buying “collectibles” (if that’s your term) is so sooooo wrong in so many levels. First they are not “collectibles”. At the start they are but At the 800th or so point they just become a number, there’s no interactivity with it, there’s no fun, there’s no actual gameplay or challenge to obtain the rest of them. You just go and find whatever spot grinds you coins quicker and repeat for about 50-100 times. That’s the worst SIN in a videogame, let alone a Mario or DK game.
And really? You needed a guide for Mario 64?
Really???? 🤣
You could find the 100 coins in most of the missions, because the missions didn’t affect the level design in 90% of the cases.
And the green stars at least required you to actually find hidden spots in the levels.
Is grinding a spot in a videogame for 2-3 hours (if you’re lucky) doing the same mundane task fun?
I’ll save you the answer NO. IT ISNT. It’s a waste of everyone’s valuable time to 100% a game.
Ohh… and if you think buying 200 stars or moons, without real, fun gameplay involved, is “engaging” and a “mechanic” … then ooohhh boy, that just tells me you know nothing about gaming design.
@N00BiSH 100 coins vs 1000 thingies? Really?
And 100 coins? When they are spread in mostly 5-10 packs across a level? You do those challenges in like 5-10 min. And there are only like 10 of them.
Also, green stars are far better than “buying” 200 moons or bananas from a store just to reach 100%.
At least they don’t feel like grinding, like with Koroks or the stated “challenges” above.
Don’t get me wrong, Oddisey was fun… but it wasn’t planned that well towards the post-game. There was A LOT of grinding. And grinding and Mario shouldn’t even be used in the same sentence.
@NintendoWife I 100% agree with your last comment.
@RoboCube I never understood why people find that game difficult . I never found it even remotely hard (and I’m not the type of Git-good guy)
I think it’s mostly because those mini levels could feel stressful at times, not particularly hard per se… I’ve played harder games tbh.
Sometimes you just need to go back to basics.
Make fun, short, condensed games. You don’t need to convert DK, Mario and Zelda into 130 hour long slog games where you need to collect 1000 shimamaniganins.
Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy are the best because they ALWAYS felt fun during its run and never turned into a chore. Sometimes modern gaming feels like work and that’s something I’ve been seeing with these new younger teams touching existing IP. Maybe because this new generation of streamers, influencers and pro-gamers actually DO see games as work, which is ABHORRENT in my opinion.
Games should be fun… not work.
If the next Mario is open world and need to collect 2000 stars just because they need to artificially expand the game’s runtime like BOTW and TOTK…. Then I’m out.
Hope the new teams learn from Miyamoto’s past philosophies instead of just pursuing contemporary trends.
That’s not the Nintendo I fell in love with.
It’s not the first time RE has put its monsters in the spotlight. Happened with Nemesis, happened with Birkin, happened with the Baker family and now Lady D.
Hell, even Nemesis earned its spotlight in Marvel vs Capcom at the same time as Chris and Wesker.
In a franchise about Biohazards… it really isn’t surprising when the actual Biohazards are front and center.
Hope they REALLY fix Wonder Pick because it’s pretty much useless. Rare cards appear like 1% of the time and even then you have to pick the correct one, which leaves you at a miserable 0.2% of actually getting something while they force you to check 5-10 times a day if there’s something in it of actual value.
They should also open up pack points across all boosters. Nobody is gonna reach 1,250 points in those single booster sets.
Get real DENA.
@SilverM thanks for the opinion . I also remember Emil from Symphonia 2 being one of the worst characters ever written and voice acted. Such a letdown.
Lloyd Irving should be in Smash. Also…. My people or culture… which is worst? Symphonia 2 or Xillia 2? Never played Xillia 2 but Symphonia 2 was total crap coming from one of the best entries in the series
@JumpingJackson exactly the same top as me. 3 had that perfect balance with strategy, puzzle, environment (not relying too much on samey caves as 2) and didn't feel like a chore (even though i loved 4, it sometimes felt in that parameter).
Also the multiplayer was soooo much fun.
3,1,4,2 for me too
I completely agree. I’m an avid and hardcore horror gamer…. And I’ve tried this game 3 times since it’s launch on WiiU… and I’ve never gotten to complete it. It’s so stress inducing. Great game! I should give it a try these Halloween days.
I never played a Persona title in my life… and I was pretty excited for Persona 5 on PS3 that I bought it. Never played it until the Switch version came along.
Wow… just what an amazing game. It became one of my favorite games ever. I’ll obviously get this after I get an SD Express for a good price…. But this goes high on my priority list
This game was so good. I can’t wait for the remake. They really should release all the RE classics missing. 2,3, CV and maybe Outbreak 1&2 before Requiem?
Wow this man is my videogame hero. So many of my favorite games were directed by him up to the great Sea of Thieves. May you continue to make great games!
Finally! They are going to get the wonder Pick fixed??? I wasn’t seeing anything rare like for 3 months!!
And let us trade 3 ⭐️ … I have like 4 dialgas and still on the lookout for my missing ones: Ho-oh, suicune and eevee
Also, the latest pack was TERRIBLE. I thought it was gonna include every card from past packs… not the uninspired “metallic” versions and just a few rare variants… sigh
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Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
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Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH sigh…. Grinding ISNT collecting.
I never complained about looking for stuff in a collectathon.
I complained about putting 100-200 extra moons in a store with a currency you need to grind to buy them with.
That’s not part of a collectathon philosophy. Finding them IS.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH dude you’re complaining about having to find things in a collectathon. Sure, not all blue coins are a winner… but it’s still better than grinding. Waaaay better. Some can be tedious, sure, but not mundane or repetitive.
And no, it’s 999 moons. Sure, the reward is just minor (but that’s 100%)
Just as minor as in Sunshine or 64.
If you just want to finish the game, sure, just go for 70 stars or 124 moons. But for the real 100%, which has been our argument here… again… actual gameplay and “pixel hunting” …. Or 3-5 hour grinding?
It’s your choice. I definitely know which one I prefer.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH it IS needed to 100% the game. You 100% the game when you reach 1000 moons or bananas. If you’re using that argument then in Mario 64, if you just wanted to finish the game then you don’t need to find 100 coins in each level… you can still finish the game at 70 stars.
So, wrong again.
And collecting 100 coins is neither pixel hunting nor grinding. Come on, like I said, there’s packs of 5 and 10 coins scattered in the levels. If you find that particularly difficult, then I don’t know what to say. You can easily complete all 100-coin challenges in 30-60 minutes.
Grinding for those extra moons and Bananas? Mhhh around 3 hours repeating ad nauseum.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH if you’re not saying that… then why are you even arguing?
Let me know… which is more of a slog:
Collecting 100 coins 10 times?
Or grinding for 5 hours in the same spot, doing the same mundane task that nets you more coins to buy 200 moons or bananas?
Which actually stands as a challenge and requires actual gameplay?
I’ll let you think about that one.
And I love collectathons. My favorite games are Banjo Kazooie and, as I said, I love all Marios.
Does grinding 200 moons and bananas get a pass because of that?
No it doesn’t. It’s just bad post-game design. And it’s just to artificially make the game last longer.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH LMAO you’re complaining about 10…. 10 stars in a game… If that were the case I could easily find 10 moons in Oddisey that are worse or in the same level of a slog.
And… buying “collectibles” (if that’s your term) is so sooooo wrong in so many levels. First they are not “collectibles”. At the start they are but At the 800th or so point they just become a number, there’s no interactivity with it, there’s no fun, there’s no actual gameplay or challenge to obtain the rest of them. You just go and find whatever spot grinds you coins quicker and repeat for about 50-100 times. That’s the worst SIN in a videogame, let alone a Mario or DK game.
And really? You needed a guide for Mario 64?
Really???? 🤣
You could find the 100 coins in most of the missions, because the missions didn’t affect the level design in 90% of the cases.
And the green stars at least required you to actually find hidden spots in the levels.
Is grinding a spot in a videogame for 2-3 hours (if you’re lucky) doing the same mundane task fun?
I’ll save you the answer NO. IT ISNT. It’s a waste of everyone’s valuable time to 100% a game.
Ohh… and if you think buying 200 stars or moons, without real, fun gameplay involved, is “engaging” and a “mechanic” … then ooohhh boy, that just tells me you know nothing about gaming design.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@N00BiSH 100 coins vs 1000 thingies? Really?
And 100 coins? When they are spread in mostly 5-10 packs across a level? You do those challenges in like 5-10 min. And there are only like 10 of them.
Also, green stars are far better than “buying” 200 moons or bananas from a store just to reach 100%.
At least they don’t feel like grinding, like with Koroks or the stated “challenges” above.
Don’t get me wrong, Oddisey was fun… but it wasn’t planned that well towards the post-game. There was A LOT of grinding. And grinding and Mario shouldn’t even be used in the same sentence.
@NintendoWife I 100% agree with your last comment.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
@RoboCube I never understood why people find that game difficult . I never found it even remotely hard (and I’m not the type of Git-good guy)
I think it’s mostly because those mini levels could feel stressful at times, not particularly hard per se… I’ve played harder games tbh.
Re: "I Just Hope To Stay Healthy" - Shigeru Miyamoto On Taking Further Steps Away From Development
Sometimes you just need to go back to basics.
Make fun, short, condensed games. You don’t need to convert DK, Mario and Zelda into 130 hour long slog games where you need to collect 1000 shimamaniganins.
Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy are the best because they ALWAYS felt fun during its run and never turned into a chore. Sometimes modern gaming feels like work and that’s something I’ve been seeing with these new younger teams touching existing IP. Maybe because this new generation of streamers, influencers and pro-gamers actually DO see games as work, which is ABHORRENT in my opinion.
Games should be fun… not work.
If the next Mario is open world and need to collect 2000 stars just because they need to artificially expand the game’s runtime like BOTW and TOTK…. Then I’m out.
Hope the new teams learn from Miyamoto’s past philosophies instead of just pursuing contemporary trends.
That’s not the Nintendo I fell in love with.
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Voice Actors Officially Revealed
@CaleBoi25 I agree that Pauline’s voice acting was a highlight
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Voice Actors Officially Revealed
Zelda’s voice never sounds natural … it sounds like she is forcing the voice to try to sound sweet and innocent… which doesn’t work
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A's Mega Dimension DLC Scores December Release Date
@Willo567 most of it WAS cut content.... don't tell me that map features, fast travel and a bike can't be done in under a month or even less.
Re: Talking Point: What's The Best Firework Sequence In A Video Game?
Sea of Thieves have amazing fireworks..... still waiting for it to come to Switch 2
Re: Marvel Cosmic Invasion Devs Showcase Every Fighter In The Upcoming Beat 'Em Up
@Spider-Kev Phylla-Vell ... she is the blonde kid in the third GotG movie.
Re: Switch 2 Has The Largest Third-Party Software Lineup Ever For New Nintendo Hardware
Im ok as long as Resident Evil and Final Fantasy come over and I don’t have to pay for a PS5.
Re: Talking Point: Smashing Switch 2 Numbers Prove Nintendo's Strategy Is Super Effective
Yes... more $80 games!!!
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
There’s far better games this season … as a huge Zelda fan I’m not spending my money here
Re: Persona 5 Series Sales Just Won't Slow Down As Games Soar Past 13 Million
@Lizuka you can download it on Steam for free. 😉
At least the download size is better on a PC than on a phone.
It’s got great reviews too. If you’ve been invested in the P5 universe you shouldn’t miss out on that one.
I haven’t played it yet either, as I’m waiting on the story to go a bit further… and because backlog reasons, but everyone says it’s good.
Re: Persona 5 Series Sales Just Won't Slow Down As Games Soar Past 13 Million
@Lizuka no Persona 5 Phantom X?
Re: Persona 5 Series Sales Just Won't Slow Down As Games Soar Past 13 Million
One of the best games I’ve played in my 35 years of gaming
It’s that good… and I wasn’t even a fan of the Persona series
Btw, there’s a typo, it says 13k which refers to 13,000
You mean 13m…..13,000,000
Re: "Jill / Chris Would Be More Befitting" - Resident Evil's Obsession With Lady D. Is Getting Fans Riled Up
It’s not the first time RE has put its monsters in the spotlight. Happened with Nemesis, happened with Birkin, happened with the Baker family and now Lady D.
Hell, even Nemesis earned its spotlight in Marvel vs Capcom at the same time as Chris and Wesker.
In a franchise about Biohazards… it really isn’t surprising when the actual Biohazards are front and center.
Re: Nintendo's Pokémon Catching-Related Patent Has Been Rejected In Japan
Good **** Nintendo ……
Re: Resident Evil Requiem Pre-Orders Live, Switch 2 Pro Controller And Amiibo Confirmed
That was a great video, and the actress gave me chills. Really well acted and produced.
Re: Microsoft On Its Gaming Business Going Forward: "We Want To Be Everywhere"
Yeah yeah yeah… bring Sea of Thieves to Switch 2 … aaaand hand over Banjo Kazooie to Nintendo… or any studio more skilled.
You know what? You did that with Perfect Dark and still failed.
Just hand over all the Rare IP to Nintendo and we’ll call it even.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
Nah… there are better repetitive-to-death games out there
Re: Opinion: One Year On, Every Positive 'Pokémon TCG Pocket' Update Still Comes With A Catch
Hope they REALLY fix Wonder Pick because it’s pretty much useless. Rare cards appear like 1% of the time and even then you have to pick the correct one, which leaves you at a miserable 0.2% of actually getting something while they force you to check 5-10 times a day if there’s something in it of actual value.
They should also open up pack points across all boosters. Nobody is gonna reach 1,250 points in those single booster sets.
Get real DENA.
Re: Book Review: Metroid Prime 1-3: A Visual Retrospective - Stunning Art, Though Lacking Context
@Novuscourvous not when you’re trying to hide from the wife or the kids and you want some time to yourself to….. read a book
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
@N00BiSH true… but at least the chances of them actually doing something with the IP increases
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
Microsoft just hoarded IP and did nothing of relevance with their exclusive rights…
Just sell back Rare to Nintendo!
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
Ok? Then bring Sea of Thieves to switch 2!
Re: Review: Night Striker Gear (Switch) - The Shining Apex Of The 'Super Scaler' Concept
When I saw that trailer I knew I was looking at a hidden gem. This game looks nuts!
Re: Tales Of Xillia 2 Remastered On The Way, With More To Come
@SilverM thanks for the opinion . I also remember Emil from Symphonia 2 being one of the worst characters ever written and voice acted. Such a letdown.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Team Open To More DLC: "Tell Us What You Want"
@axelhander exactly
Re: Tales Of Xillia 2 Remastered On The Way, With More To Come
Lloyd Irving should be in Smash.
Also…. My people or culture… which is worst?
Symphonia 2 or Xillia 2? Never played Xillia 2 but Symphonia 2 was total crap coming from one of the best entries in the series
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Team Open To More DLC: "Tell Us What You Want"
You know what this game is really missing?
A 120 hour open world game mode.
There aren’t many games that have one of those …..
…..
….
Oh wait
Re: Surprise! Pikmin 4 Is Getting A Free Content Update On Switch Next Month
@JumpingJackson exactly the same top as me. 3 had that perfect balance with strategy, puzzle, environment (not relying too much on samey caves as 2) and didn't feel like a chore (even though i loved 4, it sometimes felt in that parameter).
Also the multiplayer was soooo much fun.
3,1,4,2 for me too
Re: Anniversary: Fatal Frame: Maiden Of Black Water Still Scares The Pants Off Me Ten Years On
I completely agree. I’m an avid and hardcore horror gamer…. And I’ve tried this game 3 times since it’s launch on WiiU… and I’ve never gotten to complete it. It’s so stress inducing.
Great game! I should give it a try these Halloween days.
Re: Surprise! Pikmin 4 Is Getting A Free Content Update On Switch Next Month
Pikmin 3 remains king in this IP.
I’ll definitely be looking out for those hidden Pikmin
Re: Review: Persona 3 Reload (Switch 2) - A Great Remake, But Still Not Definitive
I never played a Persona title in my life… and I was pretty excited for Persona 5 on PS3 that I bought it. Never played it until the Switch version came along.
Wow… just what an amazing game. It became one of my favorite games ever.
I’ll obviously get this after I get an SD Express for a good price…. But this goes high on my priority list
Re: Resident Evil 0 Remake Rumours Make The Rounds Again
This game was so good. I can’t wait for the remake. They really should release all the RE classics missing. 2,3, CV and maybe Outbreak 1&2 before Requiem?
Re: Mini Review: Pokémon Legends: Z-A (Switch) - Mostly Stable, Much Less Shiny
Whichever is cheaper. Pokémon games look like WiiU games anyway.
Re: One Of 2024's Nuttiest Indie Games Shoots Onto Switch 2 Next Month
This could have come to Switch 1 too ....... anyways... looks quite a bit bonkers.... good
Re: Banjo-Kazooie Director Marks Departure From Rare With A Poem
Wow this man is my videogame hero. So many of my favorite games were directed by him up to the great Sea of Thieves.
May you continue to make great games!
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed Shadows On Switch 2 May Clash With Metroid Prime 4
Metroid all the way ... I've been waiting 18 years for this.
Hopefully this "open world" doesn't hinder the experience because I'll be mad AF
Re: Pokémon TCG Pocket Announces "New And Updated" Features For First Anniversary
Finally! They are going to get the wonder Pick fixed??? I wasn’t seeing anything rare like for 3 months!!
And let us trade 3 ⭐️ … I have like 4 dialgas and still on the lookout for my missing ones: Ho-oh, suicune and eevee
Also, the latest pack was TERRIBLE. I thought it was gonna include every card from past packs… not the uninspired “metallic” versions and just a few rare variants… sigh
Re: Notorious Group 'Crimson Collective' Claims To Have Hacked Nintendo
Hack the Switch 2 … not the servers
Re: Surprise! Dragon Ball FighterZ Is Adding Another Fighter To The Roster In 2026
Ahh the anime with more hair colors than substance. In retrospect OG Dragon ball was way better than Z