@XCWarrior And that is precisely the reason why they have been digging their own grave non stop ever since they came up with the Wii U idea. They don't understand the wants/needs of their own fans. E3 2015 was heavily insulting to lots of people:
-Half assed Mario Tennis game nobody wanted
-No focus on Xenoblade or other more high profile games
-2 boring Animal Crossing amiibo spin offs that nobody wanted
-A Paper Mario entry that continues a trend people hate
-Heavy focus on amiibo/Skylanders nobody wanted them to waste time on
-The huge let down of Star Fox Zero
It seems that for every incredible game on the Wii U Nintendo made or funded, there were 5 terrible decisions to go along side it.
Now we are left with an e3 that appears to be entirely Zelda U related. Zelda U better be the greatest game they have ever made or Nintendo's next console will sell even worse than the Gameboy Micro.
@XCWarrior People want the game, the problem is many are put off from the fact that the game servers are no longer online, thus making games like Mario Kart DS/Metroid Prime Hunters purely single player experiences.
While both are great games, it is the multiplayer that kept them alive for so many years.
@Toadie NoA and NoE are different companies in different markets. They release games depending on market demands and trends.
So NoA got Devilish Brain training, we didn't. NoE got the new3DS with face plates, NoA didn't (for 6-7 months) NoE got DKC Trilogy on eShop, NoA had to wait 5 months. NoE translated and funded Xenoblade Chronicles when NoA wouldn't.
Surely these idiots see how many of these suits Nintendo have won over the years? Its not a 100% record sure, but enough to prove that messing with them is a very bad idea.
Recent Nintendo film/tv media: Pikmin short films Kirby TV series F-Zero anime The never ending Pokemon anime Animal Crossing film A Pokemon movie released every year
I honestly feel that NoE have been doing the best they can with what's being thrown at them from Japan. Shibata pushing the first print editions/special editions in Europe plus the basic new3DS model show that they are more in tune with their audience then NoA are.
NoE also technically have more freedom than NoA do. NoA are basically a spokesman for Nintendo Japan whereas Nintendo Europe actively tries to engage with fans in a meaningful way (for example, bringing over Xenoblade Chronicles to Wii).
Nintendo UK, who are responsible for running the social media accounts, have next to no power. Due to the budget given to NoE by NoJ, Nintendo UK's marketing budget was at an all time low during the Wii U's life span.
They had TV adverts but were forced to advertise safe games like Animal Crossing, Pokemon and Tomodachi Life on children's TV channels rather than any major pushes with games like Bayonetta 2.
Nintendo Europe were the last to know about the 3DS XL, this is a great example of how Nintendo Japan are. NoE didn't know a damn thing about the product until the direct announcing it was being filmed (source: I speak to Nintendo EU staff every so often and get these stories over a pint).
@Sanicranfast - please refrain from profanity. Thanks muchly
Secrecy helped build up the hype for the Wii. Everyone knows that, the Wii was that huge thing that captured the hearts of over 100 million people.
However, with the NX they need to come out guns blazing with all kinds of news and announcements. Tell us the specs, the games, the rest of the hardware, etc! Talk about deals made with third parties.
They need to advertise the hell out of their next console otherwise it will do even worse than the Wii U.
@scamander Super Mario World launched on Wii U for £5.49 and has always been that price on Wii U. It's the 3DS that has been given some kind of bizarre price increase of £1.70 or so.
It makes no sense, if anything Mario World should be cheaper since the Wii U ROM is almost 5 years old now. Mario World itself is around 25 years old!
@RainbowGazelle yep, safer paying more money to avoid: 1. Being charged 5 times for one item 2. GAME claiming paypal or your bank refused the payment thus you lose out on the item entirely 3. Sending your order a week or 2 late. 4. Your order getting stolen by random thieves.
@FullbringIchigo Nintendo have zero negotiation ground with UK retailers. ARGOS and Smyths Toy store stock their products fine for the most part, but Supermarkets avoid Nintendo products.
Go into any small tesco and you will see dvd, bluray, PS4 and Xbox One and nothing from Nintendo. Most stores in Scotland stopped stocking Nintendo less than a year into the Wii U's life span.
GAME are the only retailer willing to give Nintendo shelf space, which in most stores is a crappy island filled mostly with preowned games with more store space dedicated to skylanders, Disney figures or the LEGO game in general.
@Blast You really should learn how Koei do business then. Especting you to pay £35 for a small amount of content you wouldn't get otherwise is par for the course for KOEI. Hell, they are handling Hyrule Warriors better than the usual DW nonsense.
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Re: Nintendo Download: 2nd June (North America)
@XCWarrior And that is precisely the reason why they have been digging their own grave non stop ever since they came up with the Wii U idea. They don't understand the wants/needs of their own fans. E3 2015 was heavily insulting to lots of people:
-Half assed Mario Tennis game nobody wanted
-No focus on Xenoblade or other more high profile games
-2 boring Animal Crossing amiibo spin offs that nobody wanted
-A Paper Mario entry that continues a trend people hate
-Heavy focus on amiibo/Skylanders nobody wanted them to waste time on
-The huge let down of Star Fox Zero
It seems that for every incredible game on the Wii U Nintendo made or funded, there were 5 terrible decisions to go along side it.
Now we are left with an e3 that appears to be entirely Zelda U related. Zelda U better be the greatest game they have ever made or Nintendo's next console will sell even worse than the Gameboy Micro.
Re: Nintendo Download: 2nd June (North America)
@Kmno Considering how expensive the Megaman games are on their own on eShop, you save a bundle on the Legacy Collection.
Re: Nintendo Download: 2nd June (North America)
@XCWarrior People want the game, the problem is many are put off from the fact that the game servers are no longer online, thus making games like Mario Kart DS/Metroid Prime Hunters purely single player experiences.
While both are great games, it is the multiplayer that kept them alive for so many years.
Re: Nintendo NX Production Reportedly Pushed Back To 2017 To Incorporate Virtual Reality
VR? Really? There goes my interest.
Re: Metroid Prime Hunters Hits the Wii U Virtual Console in North America Tomorrow
@Toadie NoA and NoE are different companies in different markets. They release games depending on market demands and trends.
So NoA got Devilish Brain training, we didn't.
NoE got the new3DS with face plates, NoA didn't (for 6-7 months)
NoE got DKC Trilogy on eShop, NoA had to wait 5 months.
NoE translated and funded Xenoblade Chronicles when NoA wouldn't.
Re: New Splatoon amiibo Now Available For Pre-Order On Nintendo's UK Store
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You're right. Nintendo UK covers UK and Ireland.
However, their partner that runs the website/warehouse is Zavvi/TheHUTGroup who do not operate in Ireland, thus the website they operate is UK only.
Re: Denis Dyack Blames "Unethical" Journalists For Almost Killing Shadow Of The Eternals
Unethical? Really?
He only went and destroyed his own company due to unethical activities.
Re: Free Rupees And Fairy Food On Offer To Celebrate Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC Launch
@deKay Only if you buy the 3DS game and use the download code.
Otherwise those characters will be sold separately on Wii U eShop during the Summer.
Re: Super Smash Bros. 1.1.6 Patch Is Landing Soon On Wii U And 3DS
@Tuulenpoika Could be a Wii U stage being brought to 3DS.
Or simply how the 3DS stores data, so instead of just adding patch data is is effectively redownloading characters and other DLC.
Re: Five More 3DS Games Will Join the European Nintendo Selects Range in June
@Fandabidozi star fox 64/lylat wars is already a selects game
Re: Nintendo Defeats Yet Another Patent Claim Against the Wii Remote
Surely these idiots see how many of these suits Nintendo have won over the years? Its not a 100% record sure, but enough to prove that messing with them is a very bad idea.
Re: Rumour: ROM Chip Maker Macronix Drops Hint Nintendo Could Be Abandoning Optical Storage For NX
I dont see the problem. 99% of the time third parties release huge day 1 patches. Games dont exist on disc/cart any more.
They exist mostly on hard drives
Re: Editorial: Nintendo Should Shamelessly Exploit Its IPs to the Full
Recent Nintendo film/tv media:
Pikmin short films
Kirby TV series
F-Zero anime
The never ending Pokemon anime
Animal Crossing film
A Pokemon movie released every year
Re: Editorial: Nintendo Should Shamelessly Exploit Its IPs to the Full
@3MonthBeef F-Zero had an anime on TV 10 years ago. How could you forget that wonderful insanity?
The finale features the Falcon Punch!
Re: Pikachu Is Getting His Very Own Pokkén Tournament Controller
Yep, works on PC.
It looks gorgeous.
Re: Reaction: The NX Release in March 2017 and How It Changes the Game
The PS3 also launched in March.
Re: Shake-Up to Nintendo Board Brings New Job Titles for Reggie Fils-Aime and Satoru Shibata
@JaxonH @Gamer83
I honestly feel that NoE have been doing the best they can with what's being thrown at them from Japan. Shibata pushing the first print editions/special editions in Europe plus the basic new3DS model show that they are more in tune with their audience then NoA are.
NoE also technically have more freedom than NoA do. NoA are basically a spokesman for Nintendo Japan whereas Nintendo Europe actively tries to engage with fans in a meaningful way (for example, bringing over Xenoblade Chronicles to Wii).
Nintendo UK, who are responsible for running the social media accounts, have next to no power. Due to the budget given to NoE by NoJ, Nintendo UK's marketing budget was at an all time low during the Wii U's life span.
They had TV adverts but were forced to advertise safe games like Animal Crossing, Pokemon and Tomodachi Life on children's TV channels rather than any major pushes with games like Bayonetta 2.
Nintendo Europe were the last to know about the 3DS XL, this is a great example of how Nintendo Japan are. NoE didn't know a damn thing about the product until the direct announcing it was being filmed (source: I speak to Nintendo EU staff every so often and get these stories over a pint).
@Sanicranfast - please refrain from profanity. Thanks muchly
Re: Rumour: Xbox Store Listing Indicates That Mighty No. 9 Has Been Delayed Until December
@Vegaphil Zelda U hasn't been delayed that long. It was originally announced January 2013 side by side Wind Waker HD.
3 years development time is pretty average for a Zelda title.
Re: Reminder: Six Wii U Games Are Now Discounted to Nintendo Selects Prices in the European eShop
@neyoung8 Luigi U is listed as DLC for NSMB, so you will find it attached to that game.
Re: Reminder: Six Wii U Games Are Now Discounted to Nintendo Selects Prices in the European eShop
@Spin You CAN buy it in stores at £20.
There's nothing stopping you from doing that.
Re: Review: My Nintendo Picross: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (3DS eShop)
@Moon
What are the ways to get 120 coins?
-Sign into Miiverse
-MyNintendo sign in
-Sign into Eshop
What else am I missing? That's 90 coins worth
Re: Pokkén Tournament Punishes Players Who Rage Quit
Fantastic news!
Re: Five Wii U Releases Confirmed for Nintendo Selects Range in Europe
@FragRed Yes. All Nintendo selects Range include new box art and a brand new print run, meaning that you will find the game on store shelves.
Re: Five Wii U Releases Confirmed for Nintendo Selects Range in Europe
Need to rebuy DK Tropical Freeze after my disc died, so I'm hyped for this!
If NSMBU is in a double pack with Luigi U then I will buy that as well.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Fortress of Secrecy Needs to Tighten Security for the Year Ahead
Secrecy helped build up the hype for the Wii. Everyone knows that, the Wii was that huge thing that captured the hearts of over 100 million people.
However, with the NX they need to come out guns blazing with all kinds of news and announcements. Tell us the specs, the games, the rest of the hardware, etc! Talk about deals made with third parties.
They need to advertise the hell out of their next console otherwise it will do even worse than the Wii U.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@scamander Super Mario World launched on Wii U for £5.49 and has always been that price on Wii U. It's the 3DS that has been given some kind of bizarre price increase of £1.70 or so.
It makes no sense, if anything Mario World should be cheaper since the Wii U ROM is almost 5 years old now. Mario World itself is around 25 years old!
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@KIREEK I just can't figure out how Mario World is more expensive now on new3DS than when it launched 3-4 years ago on Wii U.
How does a digital copy of a 30 year old game get MORE expensive?
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
For me I just think it's an insult that Super Mario world is £5.49 on Wii U but is £7.19 on new3DS.
They are murdering us with those prices. SNES games should not be that expensive in the modern era of gaming.
Where did the £7.19 price even come from? Why not just charge £6.99 or even £5.49?
And where is my cross buy? When I bought Mario World on Wii U I at least got an upfront discount since I already owned the Wii version.
Why do we not get the same discount on new3DS? The pricing is ridiculous.
Language please! (Jazzer)
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Finally Has a Release Date and Details for Europe
@JMR_Alden Nintendo UK store usually put products up for pre-order around a month before release.
Re: Ubisoft Battling To Resist Hostile Takeover From Media Giant Vivendi
Here's hoping Ubisoft get purchased!
Re: Shadow Mewtwo's Place in Pokémon Canon Remains Uncertain
It will only ever be as canon as all the other Shadow Pokemon were in Gale of Darkness.
Re: Shadow Mewtwo's Place in Pokémon Canon Remains Uncertain
I'm not bothered. Koei invented characters for Hyrule Warriors, Squeenix invented characters for Mario RPG.
Nintendo won't care and Game Freak probably won't either. Shadow Mewtwo is just a Fighting game boss that Tekken is famous for.
Re: Video: Bask in the Nostalgia of the Latest Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow Virtual Console Trailer
For those wondering about the PEGI 12 rating:
This is all because of the slot machine minigame and stricter EU laws on gambling since the 90s.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final Storms to Number One in Japanese Charts
@Spoony_Tech
How about the fact that Nintendo always almost always announce a product 18 months before launch?
Re: The Ryu and Famicom R.O.B. amiibo Are Available For Preorder on Amazon UK
@ULTRA-64 Like 1-2 weeks ago.
Re: Video: Bask in the Monochrome Glow of Extended Pokémon Virtual Console Footage
@RainbowGazelle I doubt it. Unless Yellow uses thw Gameboy Color emulator instead of the gameboy emulator.
Re: Video: Watch The Epic Pokémon Super Bowl Commercial Right Here
@Spin Yeah. It's a nice advert I suppose but mentions nothing in terms of apps/games coming out for Pokemon or currently available.
Sure it gets people discussing Pokemon but not much else. All Nintendo may fuel is increased piracy of red and blue emulators on PC.
Re: Skylanders Superchargers Nintendo Combo Packs Are Exclusive To Smyths Toys In The UK
You can get bowser and the 3DS game for 25 on amazon
Re: Lucas and Next Wave of Animal Crossing amiibo Up For Pre-Order in the UK
@bluemage1989 No. Some you may need to shop around a little but everyone has been in great supply since the restocks started.
Rosalina may be a little hard to come by, as are Greninja and Jiggly at the moment, but that will change soon no doubt.
Re: Check Out Plenty of Hyrule Warriors Legends Footage, Limited Edition Pre-Orders Open in the UK
@RainbowGazelle yep, safer paying more money to avoid:
1. Being charged 5 times for one item
2. GAME claiming paypal or your bank refused the payment thus you lose out on the item entirely
3. Sending your order a week or 2 late.
4. Your order getting stolen by random thieves.
Re: Check Out Plenty of Hyrule Warriors Legends Footage, Limited Edition Pre-Orders Open in the UK
@FullbringIchigo Nintendo have zero negotiation ground with UK retailers. ARGOS and Smyths Toy store stock their products fine for the most part, but Supermarkets avoid Nintendo products.
Go into any small tesco and you will see dvd, bluray, PS4 and Xbox One and nothing from Nintendo. Most stores in Scotland stopped stocking Nintendo less than a year into the Wii U's life span.
GAME are the only retailer willing to give Nintendo shelf space, which in most stores is a crappy island filled mostly with preowned games with more store space dedicated to skylanders, Disney figures or the LEGO game in general.
Re: Splatoon Developers on the Future of Splatoon and DLC
@GLA that is impossible on the Wii U's hardware. Otherwise they would have implemented it instead of a balloon popping game.
Re: Rumour: Data Miners Leak Some of the Information From Tomorrow's Nintendo Direct
@GH05T obviously. Nintendo said all dlc characters get one.
Re: Vital Wii U and 3DS Releases Join the Million-Seller Club
@Artwark They were million sellers, but have not sold better than OoT3D which has sold over 3 million copies.
Re: Sources Suggest Nintendo NX Is A Fusion Of Home And Mobile Hardware Powered By "Industry-Leading" Tech
Just watch as EA announce another unprecedented partnership with Nintendo at e3 next year!
Re: Lottie amiibo Will Be Exclusive to Best Buy in Canada
@pikminfan22 She was introduced in HHD.
Re: Nintendo Increases Investment in Niantic, Developer of Pokémon Go
@Link41x 3DS lacks 4G and GPS. The 2 apsects that make Pokemon GO the kind of game it is on mobile.
Without those 2 features the game cannot function on 3DS.
Re: Apparent Confirmation Emerges of Shovel Knight for Super Smash Bros., Denied in Vain By Yacht Club Games
@Wolfgabe it could easily have been though. The website guy probably just used a smash template and didn't properly think about what he was doing.
Shovel Knight was listed as a smash amiibo, despite not being part of that amiibo series.
Re: Skull Kid is Confirmed as a Playable Character in Hyrule Warriors Legends
@Blast You really should learn how Koei do business then. Especting you to pay £35 for a small amount of content you wouldn't get otherwise is par for the course for KOEI. Hell, they are handling Hyrule Warriors better than the usual DW nonsense.
Re: Skull Kid is Confirmed as a Playable Character in Hyrule Warriors Legends
@whodatninja the trailer implied you buy the 3DS version to transfer the new content over.
Koei almost never support old versions of warriors titles, so a 3DS version unlock would be the better than how they usually treat customers.