@AWeirdGlacier You seem to be arguing against yourself here a little. Yes you got Super Mario Odyssey on Amazon for £40, the reason for this is because game prices drop very quickly and because Amazon often sells games cheap day one anyway. The RRP was still £49.99. In the same way, these will easily be available for 50-60 very soon, probably even day one. Within a few weeks it will be even cheaper than that (unless they're a massive smash hit obviously). And you aren't paying £70 for a game and "a cardboard robot", you're paying it for the years of design work and cumulative experience that would go into this. You couldn't get this cheaper anywhere because nobody else is currently capable of doing it. Once other people start copying it, it will get cheaper, that's just how markets work.
This is a product to be compared to Lego sets and other such child-oriented creativity toys. Comparing it to video games makes not the slightest bit of sense. And in the world of such toys, this is actually incredibly cheap.
It was a weird question in the first place. Even if they said "yes, we want to do 4K", then it wouldn't be until Switches predecessor. By which time 4K will be cheaper and more accessible to casual users. Before then it was never realistic. Exact same situation as Wii was in when HD TVs were coming around.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Most of those things you're saying should have been mentioned are too major for a mini direct. Every mini direct so far has been followed by a major direct in 20 days or less. The whole point of this was to get ports and smaller titles out the way so they can talk about the things you mentioned in your post (when they're ready). January 12th is a little early to be complaining about what has and hasn't been announced for 2018.
The rest of the content of the packs will be announce later right? Blastoise is an amazing addition that the game always needed, but two playable characters for paid DLC is disgusting. Needs to be 5-6 minimum to even be worth considering. For such a content shallow game in the first place, paid DLC with two characters is a kick in the teeth
@Hotfusion It's not even 1080p 60fps on PS4. And it's made in Unity. Would be pretty surprised if it achieves that on Switch. Based on videos it seems smooth enough though.
Some really childish and petty comments on here, I’m not a fan of her but I don’t actively hate people I don’t know either, she’s done well for herself and has always been a Nintendo fan. I assume anyone disregarding her opinion for no reason is jealous or still holding onto 1940s opinions on adult films
Love that Nintendo did so well, and Zelda and Odyssey absolutely deserve the top 2 spots, but wow Arms in the top 10 is a massive stretch (no pun intended). It's not even in the top 5 first party Switch games. Better than Nier Automata? Better than Persona 5? Better than Horizon? It's a stretch to say it's better than Splatoon 2 to be honest. It's a super fun game and surprisingly addictive but massively lacking on content.
I'm not sure why people keep bringing up Red Dead Redemption, it's been made very clear several times by Rockstar that the game's code is a mess and that it is almost impossible to remaster/rerelease. Admittedly this was a long time ago but....I still can't see it, there are a lot of great Rockstar games that could be done instead with a lot less effort. Bully, Midnight Club etc. Going with LA Noire first tells me they are going that kind of route.
Let's wait and see if I'm wrong though I guess. If it doesn't happen before Red Dead Redemption 2, it isn't happening.
@Pluto14 It's up to Amazon to lower this price not Nintendo. It can be got for £10-15 in stores in the Uk so it's not like $39.50 is a required price set by Nintendo or anything.
There are hundreds of rip off Nintendo games on the app stores here in the UK. Or at least there was right up until Mario Run. They are good at taking down PC related stuff but not so much on phones. I think Apple tell them where to go if there's not a direct copyright infringement, just similar gameplay ideas and art style. Also China is infamous for not caring about stuff like this so if it stays within China they won't have a chance of taking it down - other countries are a bit more fair though so I agree it's unlikely to release elsewhere.
@codyf You are right, apologies. Although they do still charge money for it. Charging money for a game you haven't finished is scummy enough that I'll hold it to the same standards as a finished game, the purchase is the same after all.
@biblops The game doesn't require any special infrastructure, if DOOM online works this will work. In regards to your performance comment though I'm not so sure. It could work if they "get the hang of optimising it" sure but they've shown no signs of caring about that.
@misfitpierce
It's not a beta any more, and for a game with as simple visuals as PUBG, to not even manage a stable 30fps on Xbox One X is pathetic. If it was developed/optimised competently there's no reason it couldn't be 1080p 60fps with those outdated standard military shooter visuals.
@Syntaxkita stealth is a pretty well known guy when it comes to rumours so it’s not like it’s just a random tweet or anything. However in this case you’re right, he said today on resetera that he doesn’t want to discuss his tweets as rumours and that he tweeted a list of the rumours he’d heard but wasn’t necessarily saying he backed them all or anything.
@magnumc500 Do you mean WiFi hotspot? apologies if you meant something else but if you do, iphones have done that for a long, long time.
Also @Ttimer5 outside of expandable memory and split screen all of that can be done in iphone (sometimes through apps, sure) (although I may have missed what you meant with the plugging into PC part, I've had iphones for 6 years and no PC so I have no idea what you'd even do that for)Or are you just saying Android did them first?
Good luck and thank you for everything! Wonderful site you have here, it's always been a dream of my own to have my work published on NL, and with a degree in Creative & Professional Writing it seems like we come from a similar ish background:) CIRCLE don't know how lucky they are!
Loool last week the Wii U only sold 45 systems in the whole of Japan? Even for a failure of a console with it's successor out, that's incredible! I bet Switch has beat that in one store alone.
@TheTetrisGuy Resolution doesn't come under performance though, resolution is the image quality. So unless it's now 65FPS or 120FPS (which is impossible) the performance hasn't been improved.
UNLESS it wasn't a perfect 60fps before, and some tiny drops have been removed. But I haven't heard of or noticed any drops previously, hence my confusion/question.
I assume they mean image quality with this? It launched at flawless 60fps but at lower resolution than other versions. There are no improvements that can be made to the performance, only the graphics themselves. I may well be mistaken and there are some drops I missed though I guess.
Christ's sake I need to start completing games quicker, didn't even know there was a moon kingdom until now lol. Can't blame NL for posting spoilers this long after the game's launched but that has definitely ruined the surprise of a portion of the game for me
@AG_Awesome That's an absolute given, it's their most ported game ever. I would say it or Resi 1 will be the next Resi to be announced for switch. Most likely 4 due to it's connection to motion controls and Nintendo.
@McHaggis Genius if so. Lets Nintendo and Nvidia break China without affecting Nintendo's hardware sales anywhere else. Get Nvidia to help on emulation which helps with Switch VC and HD Wii games. Gets Nintendo games out in China which could help market the switch to the millions of potential gamers there without Nintendo history. Everyone could win from that deal in several ways!
@AlternateButtons Come to think of it, could the little remote thing in the top right picture in the article be the motion controller? Or is that some media remote the shield already has?
@AlternateButtons They will likely have Wii Remote support, that or Nvidia will create a shield motion controller. Zero chance of them not having motion.
I'm pretty sure they're just upscaled emulations not HD remasters.
I will say though if they release an upscaled version of the Wii Twilight Princess on Switch instead of a port of Twilight Princess HD I will likely hurt some people.
@Ralizah one of the main aims in setting up ResetEra was to move away from that side of Gaf and to allow balanced discussion from all opinions as long as it’s not hateful, racist etc. It’s too early in the sites life to say whether or not they’ve achieved that fully, but no, it’s nothing like neogaf in that regard. However even if it was, the poster I replied to was specifically saying hate, even if Era carried on all those negative aspects of Gaf that you mentioned, hate was never prevalent there.
@TheWhiteFalcon Ironically your comment is more hateful than 99.9% of posts on there. Resetera is one of the most liberal, hate free and welcoming communities on the web. Also this site has always used GAF for news ideas so that will continue from ResetEra now. Better get used to it. I even saw the "milking" pun from the mario cereal article there first.
@Snaplocket operation rainfall has nothing to do with the origins of the game, it was already out in Japan when OR became a thing. It’s about how Nintendo didn’t think the game would do well in the West back then, and consumers begged them to bring it over which was a huge gamble. To go from that to being one of the main switch releases worldwide this year is huge, unprecedented and well worth mentioning in a review. You may disagree which is fine but don’t act like some minor mention of the history of where the game came from is some idiot irrelevant thing to say, because you’re factually wrong if that’s what you’re suggesting. Also Mario 64 was mentioned in the vast majority of odyssey reviews.
@RyanSilberman I know there are people out there who say stuff like that, but I don’t think many of them do it in a clear sarcastic tone, or have 4 years of posts on a nintendo site, most of which are jokes haha
Bit of a harsh review in my opinion, can be a bit frustrating at some points but the writing is hilarious and the art style is brilliant, they also go together so well. 7 is a robbery it’s a 9/10 game to me, 8 absolute minimum, although I did play it through playstation plus. Might think different if I’d paid for it ?? Probably not though
@WhistleFish i should have said weakest major territory. I know other countries have less sales but they have less sales overall, UK is very anti Nintendo compared to US, Japan, all the major markets. It has (or did until recently) a very pro Xbox market
@MsgBoardGamer "So add another 2,900 U.K. digital sales, then? That's...still not a great showing." Well .....
1. The argument was over whether digital sales would make a significant difference, not whether or not it sold well. Considering that would be almost double, it's absolutely significant. However:
2. Sligeach did not source his 3,500 number and it's frankly impossible and would make it the slowest selling AAA switch game by a huge margin
3. Even if that number is correct it would only account for the UK which is Nintendo's weakest territory and gaming's in general. Without Japan and the US those numbers are meaningless.
4. In regards to Doom's success, until it's been out for more than a couple days and we get sales numbers for more than one region, no one has the right to comment in either direction.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Well we know digital sales are a fair chunk of overall sales, even if only 15-20% (the most conservative you can possibly be and to suggest it could be lower is idiocy). We also know that is a growing percentage as physical sales are becoming less and less relevant in the industry as a whole. We also know game developers and publishers get a higher profit from digital sales due to less costs involved. That much is undeniable and does not need sourcing, but I don't think you'd disagree with any of that anyway.
The reason I haven't needed any sources for what I've said is because all I've said is "digital sales are significant and need to be taken into account". Even if they have sold way less than I think, this is still undeniably the case.
I'm not making a blanket "physical sales are next to nothing and digital sales are not enough to take into consideration" statement like you. I'm not making a statement that goes against the entirety of the industry's media and news like you. Therefore the onus is on you to provide something to back up your, frankly impossible claims. Once again I'm not claiming that digital sales are huge or industry changing, just that they're significant.
@gortsi Oh don't worry I'm well aware of his trolling history haha. I just tend to ask for sources and be polite instead of just insulting, it encourages them to talk in the same manner, either that or stumps them entirely. It's a shame he supplies NL with so many news stories, means he will probably never be banned despite filling many many comment sections with ignorant opinions, unnecessary negativity, and outright falsehoods over recent months.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE you don’t get to say digital sales are insignificant without providing numbers and a source. We are going by the evidence available, you are sourcing nothing. The eshop charts display the best selling games from the last 2 weeks, a time period that goes right back to 2-3 days after Odyssey launched. For a game to get to number 3 in only a few days is very, very significant considering how fast switch software sells in general.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Thanks for the other review. I didn't mean to suggest Sonic would be any good, just that Polygon are incompetent and the company behind this ( https://sickr.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/mario_kart_pie_chart.jpg ) shouldn't be referenced in any situation.
As for your comments about 2018, well Nintendo have a direct at the end of every year showing new games for the first half of the next year. They also have one around E3 time every year that, while of course showing games for the following year, always announces at least a few for the end of the current year. Right now all of their focus is on the holiday season, once again as they do every year. So realistically until at least one of those Directs come, ideally both, nobody has a leg to stand on with commenting on Nintendo's output next year.
Of course Metroid Prime 4 was announced early, it's Metroid Prime 4. Pokemon isn't a Nintendo game and correct me if I'm wrong, was announced by Game Freak first, because people were screaming at them about a Switch game when the new 3DS ones were announced. So that part doesn't relate to Nintendo at all.
I think your mistake is assuming that because they announced a couple games early, that most of their output for next year is now known. Nintendo haven't worked that way in a while now. I think they were burned by Breath of the Wild taking so long and only show games these days when they are confident in the release schedule. Games being announced, then released within a few short months has been the norm for them this year.
In 2017, Nintendo has released one major first party game every month. The exception is this month but it seems they've specifically done that to give third parties a chance, and the third party releases this month pick up the slack several times over. Yes a few were Wii U ports, but that's irrelevant because nobody had a Wii U. And even more were collaborations with third parties, but that's a really smart idea to increase their output and vary their projects. I would expect this to continue in 2018, if not step up, and can't see any less first party games than 1 per month being a possibility.
Sorry for writing as much, I'm honestly thinking aloud just as much as I'm replying to you.
I'd love to see your evidence about Pikmin 4 though! It doesn't seem believable to me because Wii U was already long dead in the water at that point, but if I've missed a comment from them saying that I'll happily eat crow!
I can't see this leading to Rare games on Switch to be honest, although I'd obviously love that. It seems to me more realistic that it'd be done with new IPs that focus a lot on online multiplayer or community sharing. Launching a game like that with Cross Play for all systems would be hugely lucrative. And they're absolutely correct that the benefits to having so many users would massively outweigh the hardware selling benefits of staying exclusive. That worked with 360 when all your friends had one and you wanted to play with them, it could never work now when nobody wants an X1.
My main point is, don't expect Rare Replay or Master Chief Collection on Switch. I'm imagining this to be about some entirely new things. (if it materializes at all)
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Fifa and 2K are good games. Certainly not great, but to claim they aren't good at all is a bit disingenuous even if they aren't your thing. Taking a Polygon review seriously is one of the most hilarious things I've seen online. Not claiming Sonic is a good game because I haven't played it but that's the last website you should go to for reviews. And to reply to your original comment, it is way too early to say 2018 is bare bones, Nintendo are focusing on the holidays right now and to reveal too much about next year would be bad marketing 101.
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Re: UK Pricing For Nintendo Labo Is Confirmed
@AWeirdGlacier You seem to be arguing against yourself here a little. Yes you got Super Mario Odyssey on Amazon for £40, the reason for this is because game prices drop very quickly and because Amazon often sells games cheap day one anyway. The RRP was still £49.99. In the same way, these will easily be available for 50-60 very soon, probably even day one. Within a few weeks it will be even cheaper than that (unless they're a massive smash hit obviously). And you aren't paying £70 for a game and "a cardboard robot", you're paying it for the years of design work and cumulative experience that would go into this. You couldn't get this cheaper anywhere because nobody else is currently capable of doing it. Once other people start copying it, it will get cheaper, that's just how markets work.
This is a product to be compared to Lego sets and other such child-oriented creativity toys. Comparing it to video games makes not the slightest bit of sense. And in the world of such toys, this is actually incredibly cheap.
Re: Nintendo's Employees Once Went On Hunger Strike In Protest To Factory Closures
Are people really trying to reignite the world war 2 argument in here
Re: Nintendo Reiterates That It's Not Interested In Virtual Reality Or 4K Support
It was a weird question in the first place. Even if they said "yes, we want to do 4K", then it wouldn't be until Switches predecessor. By which time 4K will be cheaper and more accessible to casual users. Before then it was never realistic. Exact same situation as Wii was in when HD TVs were coming around.
Re: Feature: Here's What Was Announced During The January 2018 Nintendo Direct Mini
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Most of those things you're saying should have been mentioned are too major for a mini direct. Every mini direct so far has been followed by a major direct in 20 days or less. The whole point of this was to get ports and smaller titles out the way so they can talk about the things you mentioned in your post (when they're ready). January 12th is a little early to be complaining about what has and hasn't been announced for 2018.
Re: New Battle Pack DLC is Coming to Pokkén Tournament DX Featuring New Characters
The rest of the content of the packs will be announce later right? Blastoise is an amazing addition that the game always needed, but two playable characters for paid DLC is disgusting. Needs to be 5-6 minimum to even be worth considering. For such a content shallow game in the first place, paid DLC with two characters is a kick in the teeth
Re: Review: Furi (Switch eShop)
@Hotfusion It's not even 1080p 60fps on PS4. And it's made in Unity. Would be pretty surprised if it achieves that on Switch. Based on videos it seems smooth enough though.
Re: Random: Paris Hilton Ponders Why We Don't Have Nintendogs On Our Smartphones Yet
Some really childish and petty comments on here, I’m not a fan of her but I don’t actively hate people I don’t know either, she’s done well for herself and has always been a Nintendo fan. I assume anyone disregarding her opinion for no reason is jealous or still holding onto 1940s opinions on adult films
Re: Random: Paris Hilton Ponders Why We Don't Have Nintendogs On Our Smartphones Yet
@jump she has been many times! including appearing in the original Nintendogs marketing
Re: Nintendo Scores Big In The 2017 EDGE Magazine Awards
Love that Nintendo did so well, and Zelda and Odyssey absolutely deserve the top 2 spots, but wow Arms in the top 10 is a massive stretch (no pun intended). It's not even in the top 5 first party Switch games. Better than Nier Automata? Better than Persona 5? Better than Horizon? It's a stretch to say it's better than Splatoon 2 to be honest. It's a super fun game and surprisingly addictive but massively lacking on content.
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th January (Europe)
@Kalmaro The 11th is gonna be an interesting day for a lot of reasons I'll wager
Re: Nintendo Boasts Of Continued Third Party Support For Switch
I'm not sure why people keep bringing up Red Dead Redemption, it's been made very clear several times by Rockstar that the game's code is a mess and that it is almost impossible to remaster/rerelease. Admittedly this was a long time ago but....I still can't see it, there are a lot of great Rockstar games that could be done instead with a lot less effort. Bully, Midnight Club etc. Going with LA Noire first tells me they are going that kind of route.
Let's wait and see if I'm wrong though I guess. If it doesn't happen before Red Dead Redemption 2, it isn't happening.
Re: Random: Mario Kart Wii Made Amazon's Top 100 Games In December
@Pluto14 It's up to Amazon to lower this price not Nintendo. It can be got for £10-15 in stores in the Uk so it's not like $39.50 is a required price set by Nintendo or anything.
Re: Blatant Splatoon Mobile Rip-Off Has Resurfaced in China
There are hundreds of rip off Nintendo games on the app stores here in the UK. Or at least there was right up until Mario Run. They are good at taking down PC related stuff but not so much on phones. I think Apple tell them where to go if there's not a direct copyright infringement, just similar gameplay ideas and art style. Also China is infamous for not caring about stuff like this so if it stays within China they won't have a chance of taking it down - other countries are a bit more fair though so I agree it's unlikely to release elsewhere.
Re: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds CEO Wants To See The Battle Royale Shooter On Switch
@codyf You are right, apologies. Although they do still charge money for it. Charging money for a game you haven't finished is scummy enough that I'll hold it to the same standards as a finished game, the purchase is the same after all.
Re: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds CEO Wants To See The Battle Royale Shooter On Switch
@biblops The game doesn't require any special infrastructure, if DOOM online works this will work. In regards to your performance comment though I'm not so sure. It could work if they "get the hang of optimising it" sure but they've shown no signs of caring about that.
@misfitpierce
It's not a beta any more, and for a game with as simple visuals as PUBG, to not even manage a stable 30fps on Xbox One X is pathetic. If it was developed/optimised competently there's no reason it couldn't be 1080p 60fps with those outdated standard military shooter visuals.
Re: Rumour: Konami Is Bringing Its WiiWare ReBirth Series To Switch
@Syntaxkita stealth is a pretty well known guy when it comes to rumours so it’s not like it’s just a random tweet or anything. However in this case you’re right, he said today on resetera that he doesn’t want to discuss his tweets as rumours and that he tweeted a list of the rumours he’d heard but wasn’t necessarily saying he backed them all or anything.
Re: Pokémon GO Receives New iPhone Exclusive Features
@magnumc500 Do you mean WiFi hotspot? apologies if you meant something else but if you do, iphones have done that for a long, long time.
Also @Ttimer5 outside of expandable memory and split screen all of that can be done in iphone (sometimes through apps, sure) (although I may have missed what you meant with the plugging into PC part, I've had iphones for 6 years and no PC so I have no idea what you'd even do that for)Or are you just saying Android did them first?
Re: Site News: A Fond Farewell from Nintendo Life Editor, Thomas Whitehead
Good luck and thank you for everything! Wonderful site you have here, it's always been a dream of my own to have my work published on NL, and with a degree in Creative & Professional Writing it seems like we come from a similar ish background:) CIRCLE don't know how lucky they are!
Re: Nintendo Switch is Still Number One in the Japanese Charts
@PuppyToucher fair point
Re: Nintendo Switch is Still Number One in the Japanese Charts
@PuppyToucher It's more likely to come to Switch if it does well though. It doing badly would suck for everyone
Re: Nintendo Switch is Still Number One in the Japanese Charts
Loool last week the Wii U only sold 45 systems in the whole of Japan? Even for a failure of a console with it's successor out, that's incredible! I bet Switch has beat that in one store alone.
Re: Rocket League Getting Performance-Boosting Update On Switch Later Today
@OorWullie I admit I haven't noticed that! Maybe that's what they mean by fixing performance then!
Re: Rocket League Getting Performance-Boosting Update On Switch Later Today
@TheTetrisGuy Resolution doesn't come under performance though, resolution is the image quality. So unless it's now 65FPS or 120FPS (which is impossible) the performance hasn't been improved.
UNLESS it wasn't a perfect 60fps before, and some tiny drops have been removed. But I haven't heard of or noticed any drops previously, hence my confusion/question.
Re: Rocket League Getting Performance-Boosting Update On Switch Later Today
@TheMadPolarBear It does lol I'm confused too
Re: Rocket League Getting Performance-Boosting Update On Switch Later Today
I assume they mean image quality with this? It launched at flawless 60fps but at lower resolution than other versions. There are no improvements that can be made to the performance, only the graphics themselves. I may well be mistaken and there are some drops I missed though I guess.
Re: Guide: Super Mario Odyssey: Moon Kingdom Power Moon Locations And Walkthrough
Christ's sake I need to start completing games quicker, didn't even know there was a moon kingdom until now lol. Can't blame NL for posting spoilers this long after the game's launched but that has definitely ruined the surprise of a portion of the game for me
Re: Mom Hid My Game! Gets a Festive Release on the Switch eShop
@JLPick It's worth way more, and it's also an RPG, has very little in common with those retro Golf games you mentioned
Re: Capcom Could Be Bringing Even More Ports To Nintendo Switch
@AG_Awesome That's an absolute given, it's their most ported game ever. I would say it or Resi 1 will be the next Resi to be announced for switch. Most likely 4 due to it's connection to motion controls and Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Is Bringing Classic Wii Games To The Nvidia Shield In China
@McHaggis Genius if so. Lets Nintendo and Nvidia break China without affecting Nintendo's hardware sales anywhere else. Get Nvidia to help on emulation which helps with Switch VC and HD Wii games. Gets Nintendo games out in China which could help market the switch to the millions of potential gamers there without Nintendo history. Everyone could win from that deal in several ways!
Re: Nintendo Is Bringing Classic Wii Games To The Nvidia Shield In China
@AlternateButtons Come to think of it, could the little remote thing in the top right picture in the article be the motion controller? Or is that some media remote the shield already has?
Re: Nintendo Is Bringing Classic Wii Games To The Nvidia Shield In China
@AlternateButtons They will likely have Wii Remote support, that or Nvidia will create a shield motion controller. Zero chance of them not having motion.
Re: Nintendo Is Bringing Classic Wii Games To The Nvidia Shield In China
I'm pretty sure they're just upscaled emulations not HD remasters.
I will say though if they release an upscaled version of the Wii Twilight Princess on Switch instead of a port of Twilight Princess HD I will likely hurt some people.
Re: Rumour: Leaked EA Email Apparently Confirms January Nintendo Direct
@Ralizah one of the main aims in setting up ResetEra was to move away from that side of Gaf and to allow balanced discussion from all opinions as long as it’s not hateful, racist etc. It’s too early in the sites life to say whether or not they’ve achieved that fully, but no, it’s nothing like neogaf in that regard. However even if it was, the poster I replied to was specifically saying hate, even if Era carried on all those negative aspects of Gaf that you mentioned, hate was never prevalent there.
Re: Rumour: Leaked EA Email Apparently Confirms January Nintendo Direct
@TheWhiteFalcon Ironically your comment is more hateful than 99.9% of posts on there. Resetera is one of the most liberal, hate free and welcoming communities on the web. Also this site has always used GAF for news ideas so that will continue from ResetEra now. Better get used to it. I even saw the "milking" pun from the mario cereal article there first.
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Switch)
@Snaplocket operation rainfall has nothing to do with the origins of the game, it was already out in Japan when OR became a thing. It’s about how Nintendo didn’t think the game would do well in the West back then, and consumers begged them to bring it over which was a huge gamble. To go from that to being one of the main switch releases worldwide this year is huge, unprecedented and well worth mentioning in a review. You may disagree which is fine but don’t act like some minor mention of the history of where the game came from is some idiot irrelevant thing to say, because you’re factually wrong if that’s what you’re suggesting. Also Mario 64 was mentioned in the vast majority of odyssey reviews.
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Switch)
@Snaplocket It's not necessary but it's very relevant, I don't understand why they wouldn't?
EDIT: Sorry I posted this before I saw your second comment. You're clearly just offended by it for no reason.
Re: Review: Ginger: Beyond the Crystal (Switch)
@RyanSilberman I know there are people out there who say stuff like that, but I don’t think many of them do it in a clear sarcastic tone, or have 4 years of posts on a nintendo site, most of which are jokes haha
Re: Review: Ginger: Beyond the Crystal (Switch)
@RyanSilberman did you honestly just read his comment and think he was being serious ? What’s wrong with you ?
Re: Random: Model Chrissy Tiegen Rants About Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp's "Jerks"
@HipsterInkling she’s very obviously not serious here. If the post alone doesn’t give that away, she’s been an outspoken AC fan for a long time
Re: Review: Stick It to The Man (Switch eShop)
Bit of a harsh review in my opinion, can be a bit frustrating at some points but the writing is hilarious and the art style is brilliant, they also go together so well. 7 is a robbery it’s a 9/10 game to me, 8 absolute minimum, although I did play it through playstation plus. Might think different if I’d paid for it ?? Probably not though
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th November (Europe)
£15.04 for Rocket League must be one of the most random downloadable game prices I've ever seen haha. Wonder why the four pence.
Re: Review: RiME (Switch)
@Menchi187 how long ago are you talking because this has been common knowledge for a month or two
Re: Sonic Forces on Switch Has Solid UK Launch as DOOM Moves Up the Charts
@WhistleFish i should have said weakest major territory. I know other countries have less sales but they have less sales overall, UK is very anti Nintendo compared to US, Japan, all the major markets. It has (or did until recently) a very pro Xbox market
Re: Sonic Forces on Switch Has Solid UK Launch as DOOM Moves Up the Charts
@MsgBoardGamer "So add another 2,900 U.K. digital sales, then? That's...still not a great showing." Well .....
1. The argument was over whether digital sales would make a significant difference, not whether or not it sold well. Considering that would be almost double, it's absolutely significant. However:
2. Sligeach did not source his 3,500 number and it's frankly impossible and would make it the slowest selling AAA switch game by a huge margin
3. Even if that number is correct it would only account for the UK which is Nintendo's weakest territory and gaming's in general. Without Japan and the US those numbers are meaningless.
4. In regards to Doom's success, until it's been out for more than a couple days and we get sales numbers for more than one region, no one has the right to comment in either direction.
Re: Sonic Forces on Switch Has Solid UK Launch as DOOM Moves Up the Charts
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Well we know digital sales are a fair chunk of overall sales, even if only 15-20% (the most conservative you can possibly be and to suggest it could be lower is idiocy). We also know that is a growing percentage as physical sales are becoming less and less relevant in the industry as a whole. We also know game developers and publishers get a higher profit from digital sales due to less costs involved. That much is undeniable and does not need sourcing, but I don't think you'd disagree with any of that anyway.
The reason I haven't needed any sources for what I've said is because all I've said is "digital sales are significant and need to be taken into account". Even if they have sold way less than I think, this is still undeniably the case.
I'm not making a blanket "physical sales are next to nothing and digital sales are not enough to take into consideration" statement like you. I'm not making a statement that goes against the entirety of the industry's media and news like you. Therefore the onus is on you to provide something to back up your, frankly impossible claims. Once again I'm not claiming that digital sales are huge or industry changing, just that they're significant.
EDIT: never mind, I typed all this for no reason, @gortsi just proved you a liar with one link : http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-11-02-the-uk-console-game-sales-now-30-45-percent-digital
Re: Sonic Forces on Switch Has Solid UK Launch as DOOM Moves Up the Charts
@gortsi Oh don't worry I'm well aware of his trolling history haha. I just tend to ask for sources and be polite instead of just insulting, it encourages them to talk in the same manner, either that or stumps them entirely. It's a shame he supplies NL with so many news stories, means he will probably never be banned despite filling many many comment sections with ignorant opinions, unnecessary negativity, and outright falsehoods over recent months.
Re: Sonic Forces on Switch Has Solid UK Launch as DOOM Moves Up the Charts
@SLIGEACH_EIRE you don’t get to say digital sales are insignificant without providing numbers and a source. We are going by the evidence available, you are sourcing nothing. The eshop charts display the best selling games from the last 2 weeks, a time period that goes right back to 2-3 days after Odyssey launched. For a game to get to number 3 in only a few days is very, very significant considering how fast switch software sells in general.
Re: Nintendo's Updated Switch and 3DS Infographic Shows Off Winter Line-Up
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Thanks for the other review. I didn't mean to suggest Sonic would be any good, just that Polygon are incompetent and the company behind this ( https://sickr.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/mario_kart_pie_chart.jpg ) shouldn't be referenced in any situation.
As for your comments about 2018, well Nintendo have a direct at the end of every year showing new games for the first half of the next year. They also have one around E3 time every year that, while of course showing games for the following year, always announces at least a few for the end of the current year. Right now all of their focus is on the holiday season, once again as they do every year. So realistically until at least one of those Directs come, ideally both, nobody has a leg to stand on with commenting on Nintendo's output next year.
Of course Metroid Prime 4 was announced early, it's Metroid Prime 4. Pokemon isn't a Nintendo game and correct me if I'm wrong, was announced by Game Freak first, because people were screaming at them about a Switch game when the new 3DS ones were announced. So that part doesn't relate to Nintendo at all.
I think your mistake is assuming that because they announced a couple games early, that most of their output for next year is now known. Nintendo haven't worked that way in a while now. I think they were burned by Breath of the Wild taking so long and only show games these days when they are confident in the release schedule. Games being announced, then released within a few short months has been the norm for them this year.
In 2017, Nintendo has released one major first party game every month. The exception is this month but it seems they've specifically done that to give third parties a chance, and the third party releases this month pick up the slack several times over. Yes a few were Wii U ports, but that's irrelevant because nobody had a Wii U. And even more were collaborations with third parties, but that's a really smart idea to increase their output and vary their projects. I would expect this to continue in 2018, if not step up, and can't see any less first party games than 1 per month being a possibility.
Sorry for writing as much, I'm honestly thinking aloud just as much as I'm replying to you.
I'd love to see your evidence about Pikmin 4 though! It doesn't seem believable to me because Wii U was already long dead in the water at that point, but if I've missed a comment from them saying that I'll happily eat crow!
Re: Microsoft Wants To Reach Gamers On Rival Systems, Says Xbox Chief Phil Spencer
I can't see this leading to Rare games on Switch to be honest, although I'd obviously love that. It seems to me more realistic that it'd be done with new IPs that focus a lot on online multiplayer or community sharing. Launching a game like that with Cross Play for all systems would be hugely lucrative. And they're absolutely correct that the benefits to having so many users would massively outweigh the hardware selling benefits of staying exclusive. That worked with 360 when all your friends had one and you wanted to play with them, it could never work now when nobody wants an X1.
My main point is, don't expect Rare Replay or Master Chief Collection on Switch. I'm imagining this to be about some entirely new things. (if it materializes at all)
Re: Nintendo's Updated Switch and 3DS Infographic Shows Off Winter Line-Up
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Fifa and 2K are good games. Certainly not great, but to claim they aren't good at all is a bit disingenuous even if they aren't your thing. Taking a Polygon review seriously is one of the most hilarious things I've seen online. Not claiming Sonic is a good game because I haven't played it but that's the last website you should go to for reviews. And to reply to your original comment, it is way too early to say 2018 is bare bones, Nintendo are focusing on the holidays right now and to reveal too much about next year would be bad marketing 101.