@Yorumi Some people do care about aesthetics. I wanted to put Serperior into my team and like Serperior's shiny colors so decided to breed one. Only one I got in acceptable time of me watching Youtube while riding back and forth got me one with Overgrow instead of Contrary. Meanwhile, I have 3 completely legit shiny Roserades, because RNG. I'd much rather spend that time building/equipping a daycare and playing minigames with my Pokemon to get the few shinies I actually want.
@Yorumi The thing is, when somebody tells me how they had to farm 20 hours for their shiny, I'm not impressed by how special that Pokemon is, I'm only thinking about how much time they wasted.
How about a method of reliably getting shinies fast, if you know what you're doing? Like buying food for Pokemon and equipment for the Daycare that drastically rise the chances. Also, hatch eggs en masse with minigames. Riding a bike endlessly on a route is not my image of fun.
It's a nice little tease, although I'm not sure if I would buy my first Pokemon game based on it, if I were a first time player.
I don't mind the leaks personally. When I first played Red, I too already more or less knew all the monsters, because of all the kids at school trading Pokemon cards and stickers + seeing the anime first.
I'd like to see a third game, just hoping they can make this a good franchise overall. I liked Second, but not as much as Default. Default had that fairy tale feeling for me. The "evil one" was an impactful and threatening villain, I personally liked Revo's music in Default more. Meanwhile, Second felt kinda like a direct to video Disney sequel. Also some of the puns almost caused me physical pain (madam Goldiga, Gho Ghettar, Swetti Tracksute...) :/
No, but you see, the chart says that the audience's feeble little brains wouldn't be able to handle if a game weren't taking place in the US.
Seriously though, the 4th case of Spirit of Justice had me laughing hard. Is it me or does each installment try to deny the obvious Japanese setting harder and harder?
So with Poke Pelago, basically, Pokemon can go somewhere where they are well taken care of (like at prof. Oak's in the anime) instead of being stuck as digital data in the PC. Nice touch.
He's still a cartoon character so the age doesn't change much.
It's a tiny miracle that Mario's design does not come across more weird or creepy. A blue collar mustached adult man drawn as a cute cartoon character is not exactly the first idea that comes to your mind if you were creating a kid-friendly mascot today. Cool how they rolled with the design originating from the technical limitations of the NES and can make it work even today.
It could point to the actual price, or it could not, so I won't speculate. If I'm getting the NX, it probably won't be in 2017 anyway, unless it comes out with SMT5 and an HD Fire Emblem or something...
@Xaessya Maybe, since the skull is on the outside, it's not actually anatomically a skull but rather some kind of exoskeletal shell that they shed as they grow?
@Royalblues The silent protagonist fits Persona well because it's a game about forming bonds between the characters and you, the player. The stoic expression doesn't set anything in stone, the protagonist in both 3 and 4 has a plenty of silly dialogue choices. If anything, I'd welcome some slight customization. A protagonist like, let's say Shulk, would ruin it in my opinion.
@AlexSora89 Yeah well, I was mostly talking about online, so it isn't immediately full of Scizor and Talonflame. It does kinda suck for taking away that option in single-player playthrough, for those who would want it that way right away. I don't mind it that much, since I want my first playthrough of Moon to be with the Pokemon available in the game as Gamefreak designed it (exploring the world as when I first played Red). Maybe sometime later I'll try it again with a pre-designed team (I did that in X with Delphox, Skarmory, Flygon, Togekiss, Galvantula and Mienshao)
Good. This way we can have a fresh start and an authentic experience of everyone only using Pokemon native to Alola online for a few months.
I'm curious whether you will be able to use Pokemon caught in previous games on battle spot/competitions later. Not like XY, which required all the Pokemon to have that little blue pentagon on them. Otherwise, that would mean only the Kalos forms being usable.
@AlexSora89 I didn't ever have a Nintendo home console and none of my friends did either, so I only knew Crash racing games when I was a kid. The last one I played and enjoyed was Crash Tag Team Racing, if I remember correctly
Not sure how many people used to buy consoles because of these racing games, so either way, I wouldn't call them "killer" of each other, just similar titles.
@AlexSora89 You're right. We don't have to even have to stray too far from Pokemon. Many people like Yokai Watch, which is also a mon game aimed at kids. But... I can see how that style of game naturally fits the Level 5 style. There are enough differences from Pokemon. They also had some monster battling elements in Ni no Kuni and that worked well. Similarly, the Crash characters also lend themselves well to a crazy cart racing game.
I just think you can make a better game by doing your own thing and just looking at similar things for inspiration, instead of cynically trying to copy them because of what's popular and is currently making money. I don't think Crash Team Racing was supposed to be a "Mario Kart killer".
@hieveryone Indeed. I beat the Naoya path (because it's the best :3), the Amane path immediately after (because I still wanted more), and I still plan to finish other paths someday in the future.
Well, I'd recommend playing SMT4 before SMT4A, since Apocalypse is more of a direct sequel, seems to continue the story immediately after the events of 4 and previous characters remain as major players in the story. Plus, it's also on the 3DS.
Other than that, as someone who has yet to play Nocturne, I can say you don't need to play the games before it to understand anything.
In SMT4, Walter and Jonathan were basically humanoid personifications of the Law and Chaos paths. I had major difficulty seeing them as actual characters, especially when compared to some other games from the franchise like Devil Survivor, not even mentioning Persona. From the promotional materials that I've seen so far, the characters in this one could be acting like actual characters, so at least the story should be more enjoyable.
The game should also be a bit less dreary, since it takes place after the events of the SMT4 Neutral path. The demons slaughtering people should now at least be taking place in daylight and in more color Each time I turned off SMT4, I felt like climbing out of a cellar.
I will probably support this eventually, if nothing else, because of the story of how it almost got no localization and to show Square Enix execs we still like turn-based RPGs.
Don't install it. It will make the 3DS so stable, even the movements of the Earth, Solar System and the Milky Way won't apply to it and it will fly right into the sky. Or through the planet's core, depending on your location.
Well yes, this is a natural phenomenon of what happens when something is released with enough mass exposure. There is an initial spike of users which then just as quickly dies down, but provided they provide a good service, the numbers can then keep steadily rising again, this time with more loyal user base.
(If anyone knows how this phenomenon is called, please remind me )
Hmm, this means cheaper non-Pro PS4, which I'm down with since I don't have some mega television monitor anyway. I'm curious how Nintendo will try to beat that.
I like the new Raticate, but since it's not an evolution or a mega evolution, it will probably be about as useful in multiplayer as a regular Raticate, which is not very much. As someone who would like for all Pokemon to be equally usable online against other players, this saddens me.
Also, Snap features in main games, yay.
The Type: Null thing reminds me of how I nickname my Reuniclus, Code:LILITH Sounds like a result of some experiment.
Although, speaking of a franchise that single-handledly made me buy a Vita, if Atlus were to do an AR Persona, so that people could build Social Links by spending time with real people, that could be quite interesting.
Time to wait for what the reviews have to say about Spirit of Justice and to dodge spoilers everywhere. Last time I accidentally got the Dual Destinies final villain spoiled for me, not wanna let that happen again.
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Re: Weirdness: Pokémon Sun And Moon's Alolan Persian Sure Does Look A Lot Like Garfield
It also looks a lot more like an actual Persian cat than the original Persian.
Re: The 'Masuda Method' Lives On in Pokémon Sun and Moon
@Yorumi Some people do care about aesthetics. I wanted to put Serperior into my team and like Serperior's shiny colors so decided to breed one. Only one I got in acceptable time of me watching Youtube while riding back and forth got me one with Overgrow instead of Contrary. Meanwhile, I have 3 completely legit shiny Roserades, because RNG. I'd much rather spend that time building/equipping a daycare and playing minigames with my Pokemon to get the few shinies I actually want.
Re: The 'Masuda Method' Lives On in Pokémon Sun and Moon
@Yorumi The thing is, when somebody tells me how they had to farm 20 hours for their shiny, I'm not impressed by how special that Pokemon is, I'm only thinking about how much time they wasted.
Re: The 'Masuda Method' Lives On in Pokémon Sun and Moon
How about a method of reliably getting shinies fast, if you know what you're doing? Like buying food for Pokemon and equipment for the Daycare that drastically rise the chances. Also, hatch eggs en masse with minigames. Riding a bike endlessly on a route is not my image of fun.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of Pokémon Sun and Moon: Special Demo Version?
It's a nice little tease, although I'm not sure if I would buy my first Pokemon game based on it, if I were a first time player.
I don't mind the leaks personally. When I first played Red, I too already more or less knew all the monsters, because of all the kids at school trading Pokemon cards and stickers + seeing the anime first.
Re: A Pokémon Sun and Moon Announcement is Due on 27th October
@Rexx What the actual...
Re: Another Alolan Pokémon Is Revealed Ahead Of Sun And Moon Launch
Did Grimer eat a jar of mustard or is that brown and yellow color scheme supposed to be toilet humor?
Re: Square Enix Teases Bravely Default News As Original Game Turns Four
I'd like to see a third game, just hoping they can make this a good franchise overall. I liked Second, but not as much as Default. Default had that fairy tale feeling for me. The "evil one" was an impactful and threatening villain, I personally liked Revo's music in Default more. Meanwhile, Second felt kinda like a direct to video Disney sequel. Also some of the puns almost caused me physical pain (madam Goldiga, Gho Ghettar, Swetti Tracksute...) :/
Re: Capcom UK Gets Hopes Up for a Localisation of The Great Ace Attorney
No, but you see, the chart says that the audience's feeble little brains wouldn't be able to handle if a game weren't taking place in the US.
Seriously though, the 4th case of Spirit of Justice had me laughing hard. Is it me or does each installment try to deny the obvious Japanese setting harder and harder?
Re: Poll: Six Months On - How Do You Feel About My Nintendo?
Used it only to get some free - but not that great - 3DS themes, that's about it.
Re: Random: Google Teases Smartphone Reveal With Zelda: Majora's Mask Reference
@CrazedCavalier It was referring to Google using dark magic to pull the moon into the Earth, to which panic would be the appropriate response

Re: Gallery: Pokémon Sun and Moon Starter Evolutions, Demo Goodness, Poké Pelago and More
So with Poke Pelago, basically, Pokemon can go somewhere where they are well taken care of (like at prof. Oak's in the anime) instead of being stuck as digital data in the PC. Nice touch.
Re: Pokémon Sun and Moon Demo Coming on 18th October, Starter Evolutions and More are Confirmed
Those evolutions are really good. I hope that they do indeed share the Rockruff thing of having two final evolution designs.
Re: Random: Google Teases Smartphone Reveal With Zelda: Majora's Mask Reference
Unless the Google CEO starts dancing on top of the Big Ben Clock Tower, there is no reason to panic
Re: Former Sony Boss Jack Tretton Lavishes Praise On Nintendo And The Wii
Is that the same guy as the one who said Vita failed because people only want mobile gaming on their phones now?
Re: Video: Episode 4 of Pokémon Generations is Now Live
I'll take all the fanservice I can get, but the animation in this one is... unfinished. Especially visible at 1:31
Re: Random: Mario Is Younger Than His Mighty Moustache Suggests
He's still a cartoon character so the age doesn't change much.
It's a tiny miracle that Mario's design does not come across more weird or creepy. A blue collar mustached adult man drawn as a cute cartoon character is not exactly the first idea that comes to your mind if you were creating a kid-friendly mascot today. Cool how they rolled with the design originating from the technical limitations of the NES and can make it work even today.
Re: Random: Nintendo Censors Canadian Interview For Daring To Mention NX
Oh, so Nintendo could hold a Nintendo Direct about the NX? monocle pops Whaaaat? Most unorthodox!
Re: UK Retailer Tesco Adds Nintendo NX Order Page With £349.99 Price
It could point to the actual price, or it could not, so I won't speculate. If I'm getting the NX, it probably won't be in 2017 anyway, unless it comes out with SMT5 and an HD Fire Emblem or something...
Re: Video: Check Out the Third Episode of Pokémon Generations
@Xaessya Maybe, since the skull is on the outside, it's not actually anatomically a skull but rather some kind of exoskeletal shell that they shed as they grow?
Re: 2DS Relaunch Makes Decent Chart Debut in Japan as Persona 5 and PS4 Run Riot
@Royalblues The silent protagonist fits Persona well because it's a game about forming bonds between the characters and you, the player. The stoic expression doesn't set anything in stone, the protagonist in both 3 and 4 has a plenty of silly dialogue choices. If anything, I'd welcome some slight customization. A protagonist like, let's say Shulk, would ruin it in my opinion.
Re: 2DS Relaunch Makes Decent Chart Debut in Japan as Persona 5 and PS4 Run Riot
Re: Review: Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse (3DS)
Gimme gimme gimme
Just thinking about this game, Persona 5 and Etrian Odyssey 5 physically makes me squee like a little girl. ....Good thing I can control it in public.
European release can't come soon enough.
Re: Pokémon Bank Update for Sun, Moon and Virtual Console Titles Now Due in January 2017
@AlexSora89 Yeah well, I was mostly talking about online, so it isn't immediately full of Scizor and Talonflame. It does kinda suck for taking away that option in single-player playthrough, for those who would want it that way right away. I don't mind it that much, since I want my first playthrough of Moon to be with the Pokemon available in the game as Gamefreak designed it (exploring the world as when I first played Red). Maybe sometime later I'll try it again with a pre-designed team (I did that in X with Delphox, Skarmory, Flygon, Togekiss, Galvantula and Mienshao)
Re: New Version-Exclusive Pokémon, Pokémon Refresh and More Shown Off for Sun and Moon
Does Passimian rip off Exeggutor heads and use them as weapons?
Is Eevee Captain Planet?
How do I fit 50 Pokemon into a team of 6?
#therealquestions
Re: Pokémon Bank Update for Sun, Moon and Virtual Console Titles Now Due in January 2017
Good. This way we can have a fresh start and an authentic experience of everyone only using Pokemon native to Alola online for a few months.
I'm curious whether you will be able to use Pokemon caught in previous games on battle spot/competitions later. Not like XY, which required all the Pokemon to have that little blue pentagon on them. Otherwise, that would mean only the Kalos forms being usable.
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
@Allspice Oh right, I remembered wrong. Must have been with something saying how Digimon was brought to the US first.
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
@Noelemahc Digimon is also older than Pokemon. I never said anything about Pokemon being the first collectible monster fictional world or anything.
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
@AlexSora89 I didn't ever have a Nintendo home console and none of my friends did either, so I only knew Crash racing games when I was a kid. The last one I played and enjoyed was Crash Tag Team Racing, if I remember correctly
Not sure how many people used to buy consoles because of these racing games, so either way, I wouldn't call them "killer" of each other, just similar titles.
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
@AlexSora89 You're right. We don't have to even have to stray too far from Pokemon. Many people like Yokai Watch, which is also a mon game aimed at kids. But... I can see how that style of game naturally fits the Level 5 style. There are enough differences from Pokemon. They also had some monster battling elements in Ni no Kuni and that worked well. Similarly, the Crash characters also lend themselves well to a crazy cart racing game.
I just think you can make a better game by doing your own thing and just looking at similar things for inspiration, instead of cynically trying to copy them because of what's popular and is currently making money. I don't think Crash Team Racing was supposed to be a "Mario Kart killer".
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
Because the best games are always made by trying to copy something that is already successful in that area.
Re: Video: Official Trailer Shows Off More Pokémon Sun and Moon Ultra Beasts
So it was the Beauty Ultra Beast that killed the... wait...
Re: Video: Check Out the Launch Trailer for Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
@hieveryone Indeed. I beat the Naoya path (because it's the best :3), the Amane path immediately after (because I still wanted more), and I still plan to finish other paths someday in the future.
Re: Video: Check Out the Launch Trailer for Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
@Mr_Zurkon @yannah21
Well, I'd recommend playing SMT4 before SMT4A, since Apocalypse is more of a direct sequel, seems to continue the story immediately after the events of 4 and previous characters remain as major players in the story. Plus, it's also on the 3DS.
Other than that, as someone who has yet to play Nocturne, I can say you don't need to play the games before it to understand anything.
Re: Video: Check Out the Launch Trailer for Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
@MrSeitaro Dunno man, why would it be "forced"?
In SMT4, Walter and Jonathan were basically humanoid personifications of the Law and Chaos paths. I had major difficulty seeing them as actual characters, especially when compared to some other games from the franchise like Devil Survivor, not even mentioning Persona. From the promotional materials that I've seen so far, the characters in this one could be acting like actual characters, so at least the story should be more enjoyable.
The game should also be a bit less dreary, since it takes place after the events of the SMT4 Neutral path. The demons slaughtering people should now at least be taking place in daylight and in more color Each time I turned off SMT4, I felt like climbing out of a cellar.
Also, they improved the overworld.
Re: Review: Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past (3DS)
I will probably support this eventually, if nothing else, because of the story of how it almost got no localization and to show Square Enix execs we still like turn-based RPGs.
Re: Pokémon Generations Animated Series to Have Weekly Episodes on YouTube
Possible chance to see a BW protagonist vs. N, Reshiram vs. Zekrom? Sold!
Re: 3DS Update 11.1.0-34 Brings Even More Stability To Nintendo's Incredibly Stable Handheld
Don't install it. It will make the 3DS so stable, even the movements of the Earth, Solar System and the Milky Way won't apply to it and it will fly right into the sky. Or through the planet's core, depending on your location.
Re: Pokémon GO Has Lost 79 Percent of its Paying Population
Well yes, this is a natural phenomenon of what happens when something is released with enough mass exposure. There is an initial spike of users which then just as quickly dies down, but provided they provide a good service, the numbers can then keep steadily rising again, this time with more loyal user base.
(If anyone knows how this phenomenon is called, please remind me )
Re: CoroCoro Reveals Rockruff's Evolution & New Ultra Beasts for Pokémon Sun and Moon
Chinese leaks were right again (the werewolf)
Re: Weirdness: Fans Think They've Found Mario And Luigi's Father
Since the original Donkey Kong was supposed to be a licensed Popeye game, that pipe seems oddly fitting.
Re: Microsoft Blocks NESBox Emulator On Xbox One
Quelle surprise.
Re: Talking Point: Unique and Affordable - Nintendo's NX Needs to Avoid Direct Competition With PlayStation and Xbox
Hmm, this means cheaper non-Pro PS4, which I'm down with since I don't have some mega television monitor anyway. I'm curious how Nintendo will try to beat that.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
I was expecting this to happen sooner or later, seems like the obvious move.
Although my dream would be eventually have an actual big budget Fire Emblem / Zelda on PC, but that is probably far away from reality for now.
Re: Gallery: A Closer Look At The Aether Foundation, Ultra Beasts and More in Pokémon Sun and Moon
Hi Lillie. Why so jelly-fishy?
Re: Different Time Periods, New Pokémon and Snap-style Mode Confirmed for Pokémon Sun and Moon
I like the new Raticate, but since it's not an evolution or a mega evolution, it will probably be about as useful in multiplayer as a regular Raticate, which is not very much. As someone who would like for all Pokemon to be equally usable online against other players, this saddens me.
Also, Snap features in main games, yay.
The Type: Null thing reminds me of how I nickname my Reuniclus, Code:LILITH Sounds like a result of some experiment.
Re: Gurumin 3D Price Revealed, Free 3DS Theme To Be Included With Purchase
resist... the... cuteness... ngaaahh...
Re: Pokémon GO's Success Has Convinced Sony To Perform About-Face On Mobile Gaming
So what, God of War AR?
Although, speaking of a franchise that single-handledly made me buy a Vita, if Atlus were to do an AR Persona, so that people could build Social Links by spending time with real people, that could be quite interesting.
Re: Random: Car Insurance Firm Pokes Fun At Those Who Pokémon GO Behind The Wheel
These creatures look a lot like something from Yokai Watch.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th September (Europe)
Time to wait for what the reviews have to say about Spirit of Justice and to dodge spoilers everywhere. Last time I accidentally got the Dual Destinies final villain spoiled for me, not wanna let that happen again.