One thing I always liked was how the Game Boy versions of the KOF games included surprise hidden fighters who weren't in the original arcade/Neo Geo versions, like Nakoruru and Mr. Karate.
I was going to purchase an XBOX Series X, not for me, but for my brother as a surprise birthday present. They lost that sale because I refuse to pay the scalper's pound of flesh.
@BloodyMurder Even Nintendo realized that shipping the Wii U 8 GB model was a mistake. The 8 GB model barely lasted a year before they quietly phased it out in favor of making the formerly premium black 32 GB model the standard.
@nessisonett @elias84631 This one is being played through official hardware, with the Pi just being at best a streamer/control overlay. Nintendo won't care.
@Letzg077 backlash made a difference for them to add 200+ mons via dlc
Sadly, no, it didn't. Listen to interviews with Masuda and they always were going to add Pokémon back in, though the general expectation was through title updates and newer games rather than DLC. The general gameplan from here on out seems to be to showcase a cross-section of creatures from throughout the series' history to each new region, some with regional variants.
"Backlash" generally doesn't work with megacorporations like these unless and until it impacts their bottom line. It's also, incidentally, why Nintendo can afford to be so tone-deaf with Smash's competitive scene.
@Jayenkai Sakurai has a massive collection of hardware from multiple companies and frequently mentions his time on PlayStation. Fils-Aime owned at least one XBOX.
Really, the "official" console wars largely went away with Yamauchi and Hirai. Arguably, Nintendo takes a harder line with certain elements of its own fanbase than with its "rivals".
This thing is slaying me. I did it right the first two times, but then flubbed it the next two. At this rate, I'm going to miss out on another set of DIY recipes.
@N8tiveT3ch Timed exclusivity clause. It's not coming to any platform other than a PlayStation until April 2021 at the earliest.
Back on topic, more than Sephiroth, I'm stoked for One-Winged Angel and the Lifestream added to Smash. I always said it was criminal that One-Winged Angel wasn't selectable as one of Cloud's themes even as far as back as Smash 4.
Reminder to everyone that Nintendo picked the fighters of this expansion pass well before Sakurai announced its existence to the world. Also, reminder that Smash trailers are almost always filmed months in advance, so do not expect any acknowledgement of the Splatoon/Melee kerfluffle.
@liveswired The potential issue here is that the modder outright says on the YouTube that he'll be sharing the mod, and at that via Patreon release. Patreon is a honey trap for these kinds of things given how easily projects can be tied to donation tiers (which counts under monetization and thus rips the "fair use" defense apart). That's how Nintendo was able to shut down Super Mario Bros. Z, among other things.
@masterLEON "I don't care if the Prince bought all that stock, I know my money doesn't go directly to him because revenue and stocks are separate."
Well, that and you might as well go naked and off the grid nowadays if you object to paying for something at least one unsavory person somewhere else in the world also has a stake in.
@RandomAfricanGamer That's not happening, and it shouldn't, for a variety of reasons.
(1) Knowing Nintendo, it's not going to re-release Melee for its own sake, but as part of a "Gamecube Mini" or "Super Smash Bros. Anthology" alongside 64 and Brawl. The most it would do is mainly a resolution bump for widescreen smoothing and maybe some bug-squashing, and that would be it. No support whatsoever for the tournament scene, and of course, no online except for maybe punching Brawl's already-existent online settings into Nintendo Switch Online instead of Gamespy's servers.
(2) The NTSC build that the overwhelming majority of Melee diehards play is deprecated — in other words, not even the newest build of the game. Much like the 3D All-Stars port of Mario 64 using the Rumble Pak-compatible Japanese build instead of the earlier USA build most everyone here is familiar with (no more "SO LONG GAY BOWSER", etc.), it would instead use the later PAL version which nerfed the Star Fox duo, changed the attack angles of characters like Marth, and buffed bottom-tier characters like Kirby and Bowser.
(3) You can forget about Slippi or any kind of rollback Netcode. Sakurai reportedly considered adding rollback to Ultimate but ran into issues. He didn't elaborate on what those issues were though.
(4) Because of these design issues, the resident E-celebs at the top of the scene would spurn it and exhort their followers to do so as well, and casuals would wonder why even bother with the older games when Ultimate has everyone in it and then some. The tournament scene is a miniscule fraction of the dozens of millions who have bought copies of the latest game in the series.
Asking Nintendo to do a "Melee HD" would be the ultimate Monkey's Paw.
As usual, I'll wait until the kinks are worked out before I jump into another console. This even goes for the Switch, which I didn't pick up until the 2019 hardware revision.
@Alucard83 Apples and oranges. 1 TB of flash memory meant for portable devices vs. 1 TB of hard disk memory runs on completely different pricing scales, and that's before you get into how much more expensive a comparable solid state drive can be.
@LatsaSpege There's also the fact that Capcom would be in trouble if enough of their top talent rebelled against them and stuck to Super Turbo or Third Strike while refusing to play the current game. (Something like this happened with Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, contributing to Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite's commercial failure.)
With Nintendo, however, it's different. The handful of top talent in Melee is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of casuals who see "Smash" and buy the newest, shiniest thing. Every Melee pro could swear off from Smash entirely in protest against this, and more power to them if they do. But the resulting loss would barely be a rounding error in Nintendo's financial statements.
Instead of just ineffectually whining, I'm beginning to wonder if calling Nintendo's bluff and challenging the legality of the ban isn't the way to go. It worked with the first emulators and, even before then, with video game rentals.
What they should have done is have a Game & Watch with the G&W Gallery games all packaged in, with both the original bug-people versions and the upgraded Game Boy (Advance) versions with Mario characters. I'd have bought that in a heartbeat.
On the infintessimal chance Nintendo makes something like this official, we should be able to import data from other games with avatar stars (Pokémon Trainer, Robin, Villager, Corrin, Inkling, Byleth).
Ironically enough, playing with items, Assist Trophies, and Assist Pokémon turned on would train you on how to deal with this. If you can mash out of Kapp'n's bus or Boss Galaga's tractor beam, you can deal with Steve's Side Special as they're functionally the same thing.
I have nothing against the PS5 or the XBOX Series X. I'm just going to wait until the PS5 undergoes at least two hardware revisions before I consider picking one up. Let someone else beta test.
I still remember an eBay listing for a Silver Mario Amiibo fresh off of the assembly line being sold successfully for $10,000.00, just six weeks before it hit stores for the then-standard MSRP of $12.99. Some people really do have more money than sense.
"It was a drop of water in a drought." "Modern users have no standards, not like us in the old guard." Every single time a game sells well nowadays, without fail, we have to sing this tune.
I doubt we're going to see rollback in Ultimate any time, unless the Switch magically becomes powerful enough to handle predictions for the inputs of four players simultaneously, on top of everything else on the screen. Even Slippi's Melee solution, awesome as it is, requires a gaming-quality PC with multiple times the Gamecube's power brute-forcing it through an emulator overlay, and at that for just two players.
I'd miss him. He was one of the few things keeping Melee's scene from becoming a Star Fox singularity. That and I've always liked the Pokémon Jigglypuff.
Smash 4 was what endeared me to Bowser Jr, simply because they didn't make him a clone or derivative of his father. It stinks that the competitive circuit saw little to no value for him though.
And now come the people trying to convince us that Paper Mario "flopped" because it didn't sell quite as well as the hot, new Sony IP in a market where Nintendo's typically at its weakest.
I'm all for this. Hell, I'd extend the period to a whole week after release, because by then hopefully everyone will have gotten the console or culture warring out of their system.
@Snesionetty --The only thing we can hope for is that this game will bomb to send the clearest of messages to Nintendo's management.--
"Between this and Mario & Luigi bombing, no one really wanted a Mario RPG anyway. Just a loud, vocal minority as usual. Oh, well. Tell Intelligent Systems they can wash their hands of this and go back to raking in cash with Fire Emblem."
@rockodoodle I'm not making any judgment calls. It is what it is.
Admittedly, though, I just bought my Switch for Nintendo stuff with the occasional third-party gem. Anything else I had other systems for, so I don't get antsy during the intervals between first-party Nintendo titles, like certain other people tend to.
@rockodoodle If we're going to compare tech specs, the Switch was dated from the start. It used a chipset that NVIDIA overproduced when they mistakenly thought the Shield was going to be a hit, and whose successor chipset was just a few months away from release.
...This is why I went ahead and bought NSO. Not for the online play, but for a Cloud backup to go along with a physical one in case one of their updates breaks something.
Where's that one Web site that does customs? If Nintendo doesn't release one officially, I think I might commission an Erdrick Amiibo with the Hero NFC tag.
Ultra Street Fighter IV with all costumes, including any limited edition tournament showpieces. It's the least you can do after stiffing Switch owners who bought the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection's Switch version with its monaural audio and myriad of other problems.
@OorWullie Ah, yeah. Those geniuses who called Astral Chain a button-masher while their own screenshots and text gave away the fact that they were playing on a difficulty too low to be counted in the game's letter ranking system.
I'm fine with Tom Nook doling out interest-free, deadline-free, no-strings-attached home finance loans. But the bit where he had me put up money and resources to build the other villagers' homes was worse. I literally saved his resort from becoming the Fyre Festival.
Well, this is certainly a spot of good news, on both ends. I thought Gamevice should have lost this blatant case of patent trolling, but I also didn't want Nintendo's motion to throw out the Joy-Con drift lawsuit to succeed as I've been a victim of it.
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Re: Feature: How Takara Brought SNK's Arcade Fighters To The Humble Game Boy
One thing I always liked was how the Game Boy versions of the KOF games included surprise hidden fighters who weren't in the original arcade/Neo Geo versions, like Nakoruru and Mr. Karate.
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield Version 1.3.1 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Letzg077 I hope you're right. It just always helps to keep hopes and expectations tempered.
Re: Surprise, Nintendo Utterly Dominated The Japanese Video Game Market In 2020
The Series X is doing better than I thought. It made five digits in a two-month period, which is practically a milestone as far as XBOX goes in Japan.
Re: A New Trailer For Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Is Airing Later Today
Please, for the love of all that's Nintendo, devote the trailer to what's not in the Wii U version that most of us here have already conquered.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sold More Than Every Other Console Combined Last Year In The UK
I was going to purchase an XBOX Series X, not for me, but for my brother as a surprise birthday present. They lost that sale because I refuse to pay the scalper's pound of flesh.
Re: Fatal Frame Turns 20 This Year, And Series Producer Keisuke Kikuchi Wants To "Celebrate It In Some Way If Possible"
@BloodyMurder Even Nintendo realized that shipping the Wii U 8 GB model was a mistake. The 8 GB model barely lasted a year before they quietly phased it out in favor of making the formerly premium black 32 GB model the standard.
Re: Pokémon Fans' Raspberry Pi Project Allows Twitch To Play Pokémon Sword
@nessisonett @elias84631 This one is being played through official hardware, with the Pi just being at best a streamer/control overlay. Nintendo won't care.
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield Version 1.3.1 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Letzg077 backlash made a difference for them to add 200+ mons via dlc
Sadly, no, it didn't. Listen to interviews with Masuda and they always were going to add Pokémon back in, though the general expectation was through title updates and newer games rather than DLC. The general gameplan from here on out seems to be to showcase a cross-section of creatures from throughout the series' history to each new region, some with regional variants.
"Backlash" generally doesn't work with megacorporations like these unless and until it impacts their bottom line. It's also, incidentally, why Nintendo can afford to be so tone-deaf with Smash's competitive scene.
Re: Miyamoto's Kids Played "A Lot" Of Sega Games, But That Just Inspired Him To "Try Harder"
@Jayenkai Sakurai has a massive collection of hardware from multiple companies and frequently mentions his time on PlayStation. Fils-Aime owned at least one XBOX.
Really, the "official" console wars largely went away with Yamauchi and Hirai. Arguably, Nintendo takes a harder line with certain elements of its own fanbase than with its "rivals".
Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons: Snowman - How To Make A Perfect Snowboy With Snowballs & Snowflake DIY Recipes List
This thing is slaying me. I did it right the first two times, but then flubbed it the next two. At this rate, I'm going to miss out on another set of DIY recipes.
Re: Sephiroth From Final Fantasy VII Joins Super Smash Bros. Ultimate This Month
@N8tiveT3ch Timed exclusivity clause. It's not coming to any platform other than a PlayStation until April 2021 at the earliest.
Back on topic, more than Sephiroth, I'm stoked for One-Winged Angel and the Lifestream added to Smash. I always said it was criminal that One-Winged Angel wasn't selectable as one of Cloud's themes even as far as back as Smash 4.
Re: The Next Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Fighter Will Be Revealed During The Game Awards
Reminder to everyone that Nintendo picked the fighters of this expansion pass well before Sakurai announced its existence to the world. Also, reminder that Smash trailers are almost always filmed months in advance, so do not expect any acknowledgement of the Splatoon/Melee kerfluffle.
Re: Dragon Quest XI S And Dragon Quest Builders 2 Receive Permanent Price Reductions
As far as price cuts go, this isn't impressive at all. This is about how much I paid for a brand new copy at Amazon shortly after its launch.
Re: Zelda Modder Performs The Ultimate Renovation On Breath Of The Wild's Hyrule Castle
@liveswired The potential issue here is that the modder outright says on the YouTube that he'll be sharing the mod, and at that via Patreon release. Patreon is a honey trap for these kinds of things given how easily projects can be tied to donation tiers (which counts under monetization and thus rips the "fair use" defense apart). That's how Nintendo was able to shut down Super Mario Bros. Z, among other things.
Re: SNK To Reveal Samurai Shodown Season 3 Pass Fighters In January 2021
@masterLEON "I don't care if the Prince bought all that stock, I know my money doesn't go directly to him because revenue and stocks are separate."
Well, that and you might as well go naked and off the grid nowadays if you object to paying for something at least one unsavory person somewhere else in the world also has a stake in.
Re: For Only The Third Month In Two Years, Switch Wasn't The UK's Best-Selling Console
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'll wait until the kinks are worked out before I plunge into any next generation hardware.
Re: Soapbox: If The Smash Community Wants To #SaveSmash, It Needs To Start From Within
@RandomAfricanGamer That's not happening, and it shouldn't, for a variety of reasons.
(1) Knowing Nintendo, it's not going to re-release Melee for its own sake, but as part of a "Gamecube Mini" or "Super Smash Bros. Anthology" alongside 64 and Brawl. The most it would do is mainly a resolution bump for widescreen smoothing and maybe some bug-squashing, and that would be it. No support whatsoever for the tournament scene, and of course, no online except for maybe punching Brawl's already-existent online settings into Nintendo Switch Online instead of Gamespy's servers.
(2) The NTSC build that the overwhelming majority of Melee diehards play is deprecated — in other words, not even the newest build of the game. Much like the 3D All-Stars port of Mario 64 using the Rumble Pak-compatible Japanese build instead of the earlier USA build most everyone here is familiar with (no more "SO LONG GAY BOWSER", etc.), it would instead use the later PAL version which nerfed the Star Fox duo, changed the attack angles of characters like Marth, and buffed bottom-tier characters like Kirby and Bowser.
(3) You can forget about Slippi or any kind of rollback Netcode. Sakurai reportedly considered adding rollback to Ultimate but ran into issues. He didn't elaborate on what those issues were though.
(4) Because of these design issues, the resident E-celebs at the top of the scene would spurn it and exhort their followers to do so as well, and casuals would wonder why even bother with the older games when Ultimate has everyone in it and then some. The tournament scene is a miniscule fraction of the dozens of millions who have bought copies of the latest game in the series.
Asking Nintendo to do a "Melee HD" would be the ultimate Monkey's Paw.
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Director Masahiro Sakurai Shares His Thoughts About The PlayStation 5
As usual, I'll wait until the kinks are worked out before I jump into another console. This even goes for the Switch, which I didn't pick up until the 2019 hardware revision.
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Director Masahiro Sakurai Shares His Thoughts About The PlayStation 5
@Alucard83 Apples and oranges. 1 TB of flash memory meant for portable devices vs. 1 TB of hard disk memory runs on completely different pricing scales, and that's before you get into how much more expensive a comparable solid state drive can be.
Re: "Free Melee" Becomes "Save Smash" Following Nintendo's Legal Action Against Competitive Smash Bros. Event
And the hashtag has finally evolved. This is a good thing, as this issue being framed under the lens of Melee vs. Ultimate served no one.
Re: Smash Comp The Big House Cancelled After Cease And Desist From Nintendo
@LatsaSpege There's also the fact that Capcom would be in trouble if enough of their top talent rebelled against them and stuck to Super Turbo or Third Strike while refusing to play the current game. (Something like this happened with Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, contributing to Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite's commercial failure.)
With Nintendo, however, it's different. The handful of top talent in Melee is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of casuals who see "Smash" and buy the newest, shiniest thing. Every Melee pro could swear off from Smash entirely in protest against this, and more power to them if they do. But the resulting loss would barely be a rounding error in Nintendo's financial statements.
Instead of just ineffectually whining, I'm beginning to wonder if calling Nintendo's bluff and challenging the legality of the ban isn't the way to go. It worked with the first emulators and, even before then, with video game rentals.
Re: Police Find No Threat At Ubisoft Montreal After Hoax Emergency Call
Throw the book at anyone who pulls this. This is not a prank; it has gotten people killed in the past.
Re: Hardware Review: Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. - A Gorgeous Object That Leaves You Wanting More
What they should have done is have a Game & Watch with the G&W Gallery games all packaged in, with both the original bug-people versions and the upgraded Game Boy (Advance) versions with Mario characters. I'd have bought that in a heartbeat.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 9.0.2 Is Arriving Soon
Probably just squishing more Minecraft-related bugs.
Re: Super Mario 3D All-Stars Sold 5.21 Million Copies In Just 12 Days
@wariofart Voting with your wallet is a right and proper democratic action. The only real problem with it is the prospect of being outvoted.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 9.0.1 Is Now Live
Steve no longer holds his meat and can't mine his way through the floor. Good to know.
...so why were we going off on huge tangents about big balance changes to other characters again?
Re: Random: New Smash Bros. Mod Allows You To Download And Install Skins Directly From Minecraft
On the infintessimal chance Nintendo makes something like this official, we should be able to import data from other games with avatar stars (Pokémon Trainer, Robin, Villager, Corrin, Inkling, Byleth).
Re: Random: Sakurai Didn't Appreciate The "Rough" Comments During TGS, So He Decided To Turn Them Off
I still remember the PC Gaming Show of June 2020 and both YouTube and Twitch chats being flooded with "BLOODBORNE BLOODBORNE BLOODBORNE".
Re: Random: Steve's Smash Bros. Side Special Is Super Cheap
Ironically enough, playing with items, Assist Trophies, and Assist Pokémon turned on would train you on how to deal with this. If you can mash out of Kapp'n's bus or Boss Galaga's tractor beam, you can deal with Steve's Side Special as they're functionally the same thing.
Re: Switch Predicted To Be Best-Selling Console This Holiday Season In The US
I have nothing against the PS5 or the XBOX Series X. I'm just going to wait until the PS5 undergoes at least two hardware revisions before I consider picking one up. Let someone else beta test.
Re: UK Charts: Super Mario 3D All-Stars Gets Kicked Out Of First Place
It's about time.
Re: Scalpers Are Already Listing The "Limited" Switch Release Super Mario 3D All-Stars
I still remember an eBay listing for a Silver Mario Amiibo fresh off of the assembly line being sold successfully for $10,000.00, just six weeks before it hit stores for the then-standard MSRP of $12.99. Some people really do have more money than sense.
Re: Paper Mario: The Origami King Has The Best US Launch For The Series To Date, NPD Charts Reveal
"It was a drop of water in a drought."
"Modern users have no standards, not like us in the old guard."
Every single time a game sells well nowadays, without fail, we have to sing this tune.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 8.1.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I doubt we're going to see rollback in Ultimate any time, unless the Switch magically becomes powerful enough to handle predictions for the inputs of four players simultaneously, on top of everything else on the screen. Even Slippi's Melee solution, awesome as it is, requires a gaming-quality PC with multiple times the Gamecube's power brute-forcing it through an emulator overlay, and at that for just two players.
Re: Top Smash Melee Player Unsure About Future Involvement In Competitive Scene
I'd miss him. He was one of the few things keeping Melee's scene from becoming a Star Fox singularity. That and I've always liked the Pokémon Jigglypuff.
Re: Smash Bros. Wii U And 3DS Tournament Announced For Ultimate
Smash 4 was what endeared me to Bowser Jr, simply because they didn't make him a clone or derivative of his father. It stinks that the competitive circuit saw little to no value for him though.
Re: UK Charts: Paper Mario: The Origami King Loses Out In The Battle For Number One
And now come the people trying to convince us that Paper Mario "flopped" because it didn't sell quite as well as the hot, new Sony IP in a market where Nintendo's typically at its weakest.
Re: Metacritic Implements 36-Hour Delay On User Reviews, To Ensure "Gamers Have Time To Play"
I'm all for this. Hell, I'd extend the period to a whole week after release, because by then hopefully everyone will have gotten the console or culture warring out of their system.
Re: Nintendo Locks In Release Dates For Its Joker And Hero Smash Bros. amiibo
No schoolboy Joker, non-Luminary Heroes, or (probably) Female Byleth makes the collector in me a little sad.
Re: Video: Paper Mario: The Origami King Gets A New Commercial
@Snesionetty --The only thing we can hope for is that this game will bomb to send the clearest of messages to Nintendo's management.--
"Between this and Mario & Luigi bombing, no one really wanted a Mario RPG anyway. Just a loud, vocal minority as usual. Oh, well. Tell Intelligent Systems they can wash their hands of this and go back to raking in cash with Fire Emblem."
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Re: Nintendo's Mobile Business Is Here To Stay
@rockodoodle I'm not making any judgment calls. It is what it is.
Admittedly, though, I just bought my Switch for Nintendo stuff with the occasional third-party gem. Anything else I had other systems for, so I don't get antsy during the intervals between first-party Nintendo titles, like certain other people tend to.
Re: Nintendo's Mobile Business Is Here To Stay
@rockodoodle If we're going to compare tech specs, the Switch was dated from the start. It used a chipset that NVIDIA overproduced when they mistakenly thought the Shield was going to be a hit, and whose successor chipset was just a few months away from release.
Re: Capcom Says "No" To Monster Hunter World On Nintendo Switch (Again)
I may be in the minority here, but I'm glad they're not trying to cram World onto the Switch. The base PS4 can barely run the game as is.
Re: Nintendo Switch 'Save Data' Maintenance Scheduled Over Next Couple Of Days
...This is why I went ahead and bought NSO. Not for the online play, but for a Cloud backup to go along with a physical one in case one of their updates breaks something.
Re: Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC Fighter amiibo Finally Revealed, First Figures Arrive This Fall
Where's that one Web site that does customs? If Nintendo doesn't release one officially, I think I might commission an Erdrick Amiibo with the Hero NFC tag.
Re: Random: US Border Officers Seize Over 86,000 Counterfeit Pokémon Figurines
I am going to be seeing that Gengar in my nightmares.
Re: Street Fighter Producer Says He's Open To More Entries On Nintendo Switch
Ultra Street Fighter IV with all costumes, including any limited edition tournament showpieces. It's the least you can do after stiffing Switch owners who bought the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection's Switch version with its monaural audio and myriad of other problems.
Re: UK News Outlet Calls Animal Crossing's Nature Day "A Farce", Says It "Teaches Kids Toxic Lessons"
@OorWullie Ah, yeah. Those geniuses who called Astral Chain a button-masher while their own screenshots and text gave away the fact that they were playing on a difficulty too low to be counted in the game's letter ranking system.
Re: Random: Can Animal Crossing Players Stop Imprisoning Poor Tommy, Please?
I'm fine with Tom Nook doling out interest-free, deadline-free, no-strings-attached home finance loans. But the bit where he had me put up money and resources to build the other villagers' homes was worse. I literally saved his resort from becoming the Fyre Festival.
Re: Nintendo Wins Switch Patent Dispute Against Peripherals Manufacturer Gamevice
Well, this is certainly a spot of good news, on both ends. I thought Gamevice should have lost this blatant case of patent trolling, but I also didn't want Nintendo's motion to throw out the Joy-Con drift lawsuit to succeed as I've been a victim of it.