Sephiroth From Final Fantasy VII Joins Super Smash Bros. Ultimate This Month

Does this mean we finally get more than 2 songs from FF?

@mariomaster96 Doubt it

I SCREAMED!
I'M STill SCREAMING!!!!!

Here come the "anime sword fighter" comparisons. At least it's not Fire Emblem though

I honestly didn’t see that coming. And it appears that Cloud interacts with him differently than he does with other characters. His sword was different at the end of the trailer and apparently his Omnislash gets an upgrade, too. This is also pretty huge in that it’s the first time a second non-echo character from a third-party series has been included in the roster.

O M O M G
O M O M G
OMG
OMG

For everyone who acted like a Fortnite character being the next character was the surest thing that could happen:
https://youtu.be/qZHah1j2vqM

Start lickin' your download codes tonight, Fortnite fans.

Man I'm not the biggest main-line FF fan, but this made me scream!

This is stupid, if you ask me.
I mean, at this point there are inly so many slots, and we already know that we'll almost certainly never see such a big Smash again, so I thought it'd only made sense to expand to as many different companies and franchises as possible.
If you really wanted some more FF, why 7 again?
And yet, here we are...sigh, if we didn't get the Doom Slayer today we will never have him 😞

Edit: well, at least now we can expect that the next three will also likely be unpredictable wild cards.

Happy for his fans!

THIS WASN'T THE EDGE I WAS EXPECTING.

NO I WANTED FORTNITE JONESY!

_{jk I don't like Fortnite and this is amazing, even if I'm not a huge FF fan}

I'm actually kind of floored. Expectations for this pass are absolutely shattered once again...but in a good way of course.

Actual Final Fantasy content is hype

Oh great, now a meteor is gonna hit earth, just what we needed to finish us off in 2020.

And they said we weren't gettin' more Final Fantasy.

Hah.

Awesome reveal. Was i the only one waiting for a follow up saying FF7 Remake coming to switch?

Wow, absolutely awesome reveal!! This might be my favorite DLC character so far.

I was not ready for that. BUT I"M SO HAPPY! (MARIO ALMOST DIED)

People, people.

His down-air is the Aerith death stab. That is all.

Personally disappointed, that is three in a row now where I have not been feeling it. At the same time, I'm just glad it's not a fortnite character.

Anyway, least I can go sleep now, Nintendo will have bugger all to announce at this point.

I bet SephirothKen is pretty happy right now.

@clvr I wouldn’t count on Doomslayer. Last November or December, Bethesda said they would be open to the idea of including him in the game, but they hadn’t yet been approached about it. By that point, Sakurai had already said the final characters had been decided.

HOLY SHEET!!!! I'M STILL SHAKING

I would have preferred Terra or Cecil, but not bad
For diversity, it would have been nice to get Sora, Spyro, Rayman or Crash.

I just had ptsd from kingdom hearts

Welp, prepare for Smash to be flooded with Final Fantasy characters for now on, even Nintendo got sick of adding Fire Emblem reps.

man doom slayer looking different nowadays

Oh yes.

I am happy about this. Its exciting.

FF 7 REMAKE COMING TO SWITCH.

jk

Well, damn. Not the Final Fantasy character I wanted but I'll take it, I'm decently happy with this reveal.

[Says in Butthead voice]

This is the coolest thing I have ever seen.

Like always, none of the rumors are ever even close.

@Elvie
If they would have been more diverse about it (such as Hector or Edelgard) (Ephraim or Dimitri), I wouldn't mind FE characters.

Sephiroth is such a big character in gaming, our first Smash DLC villain too, never thought we'd see someone else from FF. Completely surprised by this

The moment Galem was sliced and One Winged Angel started playing I knew we attained levels of overkill.

Man Sakurai really likes swords.

Mario's fake impalement was hilarious. It would've been even funnier with Princess Peach or Zelda.

This is pretty cool. I wish though that if they were going to go Final Fantasy they would've taken someone from a different game - like Terra, or maybe one of the Heroes of Light from FF1.

@mariomaster96 That's the first thing I thought of too! Man, if they had an FF soundtrack lineup as strong as the one for Castlevania, the DLC would be worth it just for that.

I'm sure this will make someone happy... Not me. But someone... somewhere...

His final smash better be supernova, with the same length as it is in ff7.

I stayed up for this, and it was WORTH IT! That was so fun! xD

Sephripth didn't have to come here and nearly turn my boy Mario into a shiskobob.

Well, I have not been following Smash news at all. That's a really cool announcement!

Not my first choice, but hell yeah anyway

@Dr_Corndog Yeah I saw that too, I think it was called Hell’s Gate in the original Dissidia for psp. Not really into Smash but this is pretty cool.

That’s impossible - really smarmy people already insisted it was Fortnite because Nintendo is greedy and children call the shots and the past is dead.

If they were wrong about THIS, what’s next? No Switch pro? Next thing I’ll find out is that the PS4 isn’t God and I don’t need everything to be 60 fps

Well that is an, incredibly baffling decision

Was never a fan of Final Fantasy but this pretty dang cool!

I was not expecting this. Nice.

I hate that SEGA has collaborated with Nintendo so many times and they only have one rep, while Capcom has like 50 and SE now has 3.

I can see why some consider Bayonetta a SEGA rep but she's no NiGHTS, Ulala, Beat, etc.

I think that seals Soras fate.

We have our last SquareEnix rep and a 2nd FF rep (MORE FF music!!)

3 more slots. One of those will definitely be Crash Bandicoot....the last two is anyone's guess. Probably no more swordsmen (Sorry Ryu Hayabusa)

Didn’t see that coming. Not much of a FF guy but cool.

@Bobb Im with you on the more songs. One Winged Angel at least is coming.

@AlienX girl, i like Nights just as much as the next gay, but you know darn well none of those franchises are getting in.

Literally nobody predicted this lol

@AlienX Sega has three reps. Joker also counts since Sega owns Atlus.

I really liked him, but I think he should fit better as a Boss, like Rathalos.

Yes! I've been wanting Sephiroth for a long time! Now he's finally here, at this point, I don't care who the final 3 dlc characters are, I finally got my dream character!

@jamesthemagi Yeah, I would have enjoyed having Caeda in Smash, a lot of potential for a unique moveset in her.

Roy, Lucina, and Chrom were all Marths, more or less.

Well played, Nintendo. Well played...

@Final_Fantasy_Kirby genuinely happy for you. 💖💖💖

Get all the characters of ff... But not the actual game. Stoopid Nintendo and square.

@Bobb yes! We can expect

A New FF based Stage
More FF Songs (hopefully at least 10 new tracks)
New FF based Spirits!

FF will now FINALLY have proper representation in Smash

Dang.

This is actually the first DLC fighter I’ve been disappointed by since they started doing them. They’ve got so many franchises they haven’t touched and so few slots left. This felt like a fan mock-up to me.

He doesn’t even look to play very interestingly. Would much rather have had a magic user from FF if they had to do another one.

@Bizzyb Sora never had a real shot since Disney owns the rights to him and can be hard to work with at times

Geno was also screwed by the fact that he's tied to the Mario Universe. Why would Square Enix waste a third party slot on Geno?

My reaction: WHO IS THAT!?

@Clamango Except, of course, Vergeben's.

@N8tiveT3ch FFVII is on the Switch hun

I don't understand the point of Sephiroth at all. It makes so little sense due to FF7 being so associated with Sony. Why is Nintendo promoting it competitors? We all know Square Enix have massive bias towards Sony as well. I really don't see the point.

@Malakai new game promotion is one of the lesser prioritized reasons for why a character is chosen.

@Caryslan Yeah I think Nintendo would have WANTED to get Sora but there's just way too much licensing issues esp with Disney to do him proper. Sephiroth was their next easiest/logical choice...and this way FF now has a chance for proper representation (music and spirits)

SE now has their 3rd rep. I wouldn't count Doomslayer, Crash Bandicoot or MasterCheif out...hell, we might even get Waluigi 😂

Well... bye, Geno T-T forever... however... HOLY ***** IT'S SEPHIROTH OMFG ♡♡♡♡♡♡

@Tsuchinoko that's the boomer version though

@AlienX
Hard disagree about Capcom. IMO, there's at least another half dozen Capcom franchises that deserve character representation.

@N8tiveT3ch you don't know what a boomer is sweets.

I’ve yet to play any FF games so this pick gets a big meh from me.

But obviously it’s a popular series and I’m happy for the many fans out there, and he’s got a suitably evil theme song, so why not?

I’ll just keep waiting for the Prince of Wah or somebody to entice me to pick up the DLC.

I shall bring despair to Smash

My initial reaction was "who?"

@clvr Boo. You can't just be happy?

Oh boy, another FF7 rep, because we totally needed that.

@Tsuchinoko I know because I am...

@Teksetter At least you're honest. I can respect that.

they better bring doomslayer for the next open slots or theres going to be a rip and tear heading their way.

@shoeses We really did

So obvious in hindsight! Very welcome addition

Doom Marine or Master Chief , make it happen Nintendo.

@Malakai Maybe cause they're friends now?

@N8tiveT3ch puts hands up in frustration

IS ONE MORE SONIC CHARACTER TOO MUCH TOO ASK FOR!

@Torakaka YES THE HYPE

Excited about this

@Malakai FFVII is on Switch tho bruh

@thesilverbrick oh thanks, that detail slipped past me!
Yeah but by now I had lost all hope regardless, and to be honest I never was too hopeful cause I knew I'd be let down ahahahah

@Marioracer tbh, the fact that sonic already has two stages and tons of music and spirits, Sega might not have ever requested another Sonic character and put their focus into the Persona stuff.

@SonicSpeedX
Hey thanks! I’m too goofy and niche for my own good usually, but I try to keep an open mind.
Enjoy your ronin death angel character! 😄

Unbelievably brilliant tbh. Another swordsman too 😂

So disappointed...

@Elvie
Yes, there was no need for so many Marth clones

@AlienX All right, now I want Toejam & Earl in Smash, and I don't even like T&E.

That was very unexpected. i;m happy for Smash Bros and Final Fantasy fans too.

@SonicSpeedX no no I'm glad for the FF fans out there!
It's just not a particularly sensible pick, that's all 😃

SEPHIROTH!

The name that should only be sung, not said.

Nobody makes fun of more sword fighters in Super Sword Bros than I do, but it's SEPHIROTH! I mean, he's worth including for the amiibo alone. Or the inclusion of One Winged Angle in Smash.

I've been saying for years SEPHIROTH! should have been the final boss in PSASBR. Silly Sony. Their loss.

SEPHIROTH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay that is hype!

@clvr i kinda agree, but i could think of at least three really solid reasons as to why Sephiroth was chosen. I'd just say wait until knowing the stage and music in the pack and it my make it more enticing for you.

This why they held back the music?

I love how in the Castlevania reveal trailer, Luigi dies & now in Sephiroth reveal, Mario dies .

Ok. After the minecraft fiasco. This has justified the fighters pass 2 for me.

@Tsuchinoko well at least he's a cool character with a slick design 😃
And by the way, I've always known that I'll have all the DLC one day simply cause I love Smash and want all the characters, so I'll try him out and see if he clicks.
I mean, I've never played FFVII but I gotta admit I really like playing as Cloud in Smash!

This is...actually really cool. I was hoping for Doomguy, but this is awesome.

I love all the villains we've gotten in this game like K.Rool, Ridley, and now this guy.

@clvr exactly. And thank you for your positivity. I think a lot of people don't realize that there is no such thing as a Smash fanbase. Its literally dozens of fan groups brought together. Even if we don't personally want a character, we can try to see why they were chosen and be happy for the people that ard3 excited. And hey, new stage and music. Yay

This is absolutely not what I was expecting at all. I didn’t predict Sephiroth whatsoever! This practically grabbed my table and flipped it over just to shock me!

And I couldn’t be happier. 😁

@Caryslan ngl Sega sounds the most compelling by having two modern-ish characters(2009, 2016) while Konami, Capcom, and SE are mostly super retro characters.

But they're not characters that scream Sega, is what I meant.

Will people still complain that Sephiroth is another sword user?

@Tsuchinoko hey, thank you!
I see you're very nice with me and everyone else, so it's only fair that I repay you by the same coin 😃

Who would you like to see for the last three spots, by the way?

Didn't see it coming, but wow what an awesome reveal

I think Sephiroth's inclusion is less about FFVII and more about him being widely regarded as one of the most iconic villains in video game history.
Definitely deserving of a spot in the roster.

@Severian yes, but i don't think people realize just how many action/horror/sci-fi video game, tv and movie protagonists use some kind of sword.

Well, that just happened. Congrats to the FF7 fans. I know my hope of Doomguy is probably not going to happen but I'll continue to hold onto that dream for the next few fighters.

It would have been cool to see Sephiroth in a different game, but I’m glad people are so happy to have him in Smash. I still wish it were a Bucket, though.

Eh. I get it. Doesn't mean he does much for me, though. Fighter Pass 2 so far has been, for me, well... a pass.

@mariomaster96 That is literally exactly what I thought.

FF7 and games of that era got the benefit of being the first 3D game of their respective series. The game itself is good but so damn overrated. Kefka is still a better villian and I'd argue 7 isn't even the best of the PS1 era. I suppose this is cool for the many rabid fans of FF7 though.

@clvr thank youuu 🙈. Thats just how i've always been, trying to see the positive side, though some people can test my enduring patience lol.

My character wishlist and who i think is gonna happen are very different. Personally i'm hoping for:
1. Rex
2. At least one more "legacy" third party character. Someone like a Crash Bandicoot, or Laura Croft.
3. One more retro character resurrection. One of those Takamaru era characters that could get a modernization. Or Geno.

What I think is gonna happen:
1. New Pokemon rep from Sword/Shield.
2. Big third party character like Master Chief or a Fortnite character (Fortnite is huge here in japan, especially during the pandemic).
3. Surprise Zelda newcomer.

Honestly, I was hoping for Sora (unless he's in the cards as a Mii costume). But Sephiroth is still one of the most iconic villains in all of gaming, so I can't really complain.

If Geno got in, KH fans would get the shaft, but if Sora got in... yeah. Taking a third option was the right call.

Here's hoping for Mii costumes!

@Tsuchinoko Funny thing is, none of the sword users really play the same either, and echo fighters still have a few unique characteristics. Lucia over Marth for example.

Well. There was only one FF character in smash, so not much to complain.

I WAS NOT EXPECTING SEPHIROTH IN SMASH AT ALL.

I AM SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS

@Tsuchinoko and yes, I’d like Crash and an homage to the guy in a bandicoot suit going to Nintendo HQ being finally answered by Mario to meet his challenge coming out to the parking lot and fighting him in costume for the Crash reveal.

Me during that announcement:

Happy about Sephiroth but still waiting for Mike Tyson

@FredsBodyDouble i understand. Just hope for maybe a nice music selection to be included with Sephiroth. Maybe SE gave in and we get a nice bundle of music, maybe with a few non-FFVII tracks as well. Best we can do is hope. ☺️

Can we all appreciate how cool it is to see lost characters like KKR and Banjo-Kazooie fighting side by side with the Nintendo-characters again?

@N8tiveT3ch huh? Final Fantasy 7 is on the Switch.

@FredsBodyDouble Im a FF6 purist too..... but let’s be honest... Sephiroth is more iconic than Kefka... even if Kefka is the better villain.

6 is better than 7 ... but Im so happy for this awesome reveal.

And here I was thinking we'd get someone good that'd give me a good reason to come back to Smash >.> I hate Nintendo...nothing but disappointing since the Switch came out. Pokémon is the only game I keep playing. Smash just continues to have random/advertising DLC

@Severian i keep seeing a lot of youtubers suggest characters like Crash and Lloyd Irving making a nice end to FP2, for both western and eastern fan appeal, as though Crash would be pick for the west, but for a certain generation in Japan, particularly those that grew up in the PS1 era, Crash was a really popular character. He even got a slight redesign for the japanese market. Crash totally works as a smash pic for all regions and Sakurai is definitely well aware of the character.

Btw, i just saw the Sephiroth trailer, didn't know he has a shirtless alt. And also is that remix of One-Winged Angel new? Im into it.

@Whyita bye girl.

@jamesthemagi I strongly feel that Rayman needs to be added to the game! I feel like he would fill out the roster nicely when it comes to having legacy/hall of fame characters.

@fafonio Not the remake and that is the one I want

@N8tiveT3ch Timed exclusivity clause. It's not coming to any platform other than a PlayStation until April 2021 at the earliest.

Back on topic, more than Sephiroth, I'm stoked for One-Winged Angel and the Lifestream added to Smash. I always said it was criminal that One-Winged Angel wasn't selectable as one of Cloud's themes even as far as back as Smash 4.

@Narrator1 All I'm saying is square does not show the players some love with all this free advertisement. Bravely Default doesn't count.

best villain in gaming history

Wow didn't see this coming but hey it's at least better than Sora. Nice to see Sephiroth again after his clash with Cloud in Ehrgeiz and Dissidia. Smash Ultimate will be their third fighting game together. Well with Sephiroth being a sword fighter I could honestly say that Ryu Hayabusa probably won't be coming and the next fighter may either be Crash Bandicoot or Doom Guy.

@Ultrasmiles Matches with the theme of the game. True final boss.

Sora: "Watch out Smash, here I come."

Sephiroth: Pushes Sora out of the way and keeps on strutting.

Oh great, now a meteor is gonna hit earth, just what we needed to finish us off in 2020.

@Kienda SHUSH!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_VT4

@clvr
I agree completely. I was a bit disappointed by Byleth too, but they at least represented a new entry and world in the FE series that wasn't in Smash before, even if there were a lot of FE characters already.

If another Square Enix series couldn't be represented, I'd at least would have liked to see a new Final Fantasy represented. Oh well. I'm glad others are happy.

...

You have officially killed off the Fighter's Pass in its entirety. Everyone is absolutely drained and insanely tired of these sword-fighters and ruining the entire game with its oversaturation. Congratulations.

Not the FF I would have picked (Vivi, a pseudo joke character like a Moogle, or Zidane or Cecil would’ve been cooler imo) but cool nonetheless!

Still wish it was my Daytona USA car though

Would’ve also loved to see some more capcom love like Servebot or something

@OctoAori20 Nah I like sword characters.

I’m actually fine with Sephiroth’s inclusion despite him being a third SE character and a character I wouldn't have placed my bets on, it follows the same villain trend that Ridley and King K. Rool (and Incineroar to some extent) started and whose IP always felt a bit underrepresented in Smash due to SE’s stinginess.

Oh, and given the reactions that the reveal got Nintendo had its Joker reveal repeat.

Welp, there's goes Geno's chances, as now it would be too much Square relresentatiom. I'm sorry buddy, I wished on the seven stars for ya, but it wasn't to be .
-playing tiny violin for myself-

The music!!!

This is a very cool reveal.

@Tsuchinoko That version of the song is from Advent Children

I don't really have an interest in Final Fantasty. I am happy for those that are excited, but for me... this is just a waste of space for me. I am not going to tune to Sakurai's demonstration of this character. I have 0 history with the Final Fantasy game series. I know literally NOTHING about the series.

Heck, I don't really know who Sephiroth is to begin with besides the fact that he comes from a game called, "Final Fantasy."

My girlfriend on the other hand is going to be excited when she wakes up, and sees that this character was announced. (Long-distance relationship. I live in NJ and she lives in Switzerland.) So I am happy for people like her that do enjoy the Final Fantasy series, but again for me... I only really have ties to Nintendo, and I never really saw the Final Fantasy series as enjoyable.

How many villains from games do you know that got so popular that you can now buy a plushie doll of them?
What I'm trying to say here is, there are hundred thousands of Sephiroth plushies out there in childrens rooms and fan shrines. Sephiroth is a staple in any freaking cosplay party.

I have played through FF7 on PS1, and 2 years ago again on Switch. Don't underestimate FF7 - It has one of the most hardcore fanbases in the world. Much about the game impacted so much in the gaming industry at the time. That title in particular also made the first Final Fantasy movie possible, and FF merchandise.

Even if FF6 and others are better in many aspects, FF7 was the most successful, the most hyped and talked about, and brought the series into the mainstream. A cult gathered around its lore! Many were possessed by the contents of its story, as FF7 did things in an RPG no one else has done before. It singlehandedly opened the floodgates for JRPGs in Europe, a time where Nintendo did not dare to release a game like Super Mario RPG, or EarthBound, or Final Fantasy 6, or Dragon Quest, or Chrono Trigger, in Europe.

And having a final boss like Sephiroth presented with full motion video cutscenes, minute long magic attacks, a brooding song with vocals, and relentless attack patterns that needed a unique strategy was something new and intriguing at the time.

So, if Sora is number 1 on so many wishlists and you can't get him because of Donald, Goofy, and Mickey, then you need to get another big shot from the same company to make everyone shut up which Sakurai just did with Sephiroth.

And yeah, usually one fighter is enough to represent a third party series. But in this case, more songs, another stage, and more spirits are welcome (because Cloud came with almost nothing).
Though, that means goodbye Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana Hero Randy, Terranigma Hero Ark, fan-favourite Geno, Bubble Bobble, Space Invaders, Lara Croft, and phew, Sora.

I personally can't wait to play as Sephiroth. I bought Fighters Pass 1&2 because "everyone is here" and whatever they release, it can only be a brandnew fighter with a brandnew stage, spirits, and music, so that's good enough for me, even if I don't like to play all of them.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

@sinalefa Japan's don't joke with swords😁

Funny, just recently I played a version of Project-M that had Sephiroth in it. It'll be interesting to compare how it plays, fan-made Ridley had a lot of similarities to the Ultimate one.

Hmmm it was an awesome reveal, but it also an character I did not expect to be honest.

Still it was an reveal worthy of the game awards

Oh joy yet another sword character, we haven't had enough of those.

Another bloody sword fighter from a game I don't care about. Boring. I hoped for Crash Bandicoot if we must have more third party characters or a quirky Nintendo character like Birdo or Waluigi.

How disappointing. Never heard of him

I'm pretty disappointed. Lara Croft was right there for a cool new Square Enix rep, Cecil & Zidane were cool options for more Final Fantasy, and Eggman would have been a cooler third party villain.

And for a crossover game, that trailer sure had a lot of focus on Sephiroth fighting Cloud. Again. It's a crossover! Have a cinematic where he fights Ganondorf or something!

@clvr Sephiroth and Cloud are still probably the most iconic FF characters and this Smash seems to have set a trend for adding antagonists to protagonists. Better than Byleth at any rate.
3 slots left and I am also still hoping for Doom Slayer, if only because the trailer is probably going to be hilarious.

@LArachelDisciple Now that you mention it Eggman is likely one of the remaining slots. Ridley, King K Rool, Sephiroth... I’d say there’s a theme.

Now this is a character I am interested. Is it a character I would have picked for smash, No but atleast it is the first character in this pass I am willing to try.

Not getting the pass yet. I am waiting to see what the next character is first before i decide to buy it.

More villains is a good thing. Though, it is making Dr Robotnik seem extremely missing.

Personally don't care for him though, but i'm glad for his fans. Nice surprise rarely anyone expected!

Wow, other than Min Min I'm seriously regretting paying for the second fighter pack. I've always despised Final Fantasy VII, and I I hate this guy's design. Besides that, it's yet ANOTHER sword fighter. Mostly it's disappointing that there are so many other games by Nintendo that get ignored in favor of 3rd party characters. Why does FFVII get a second character when the entire Xenoblade series still only has one? Ugh. Unless one of the final characters is something I can actually get excited about, this game has pretty much dropped to last place on my backlog.

@Tsuchinoko I know I know, It 's just that after 13 years off waiting for another sonic character (16 for a new F-Zero game) it's starting to sting a little if u know what I mean

I don’t care for FF but it’s nice to have another villain on the roster! His gameplay looks fun too.

Ok watching that video...does this mean there is going to be extra storyline? Looked like an extra boss there...

Also, FINALLY a character I can get behind for the second season pass, sorry but the last two were lame (in my opinion)

Finally 12 year olds have a new main

Still waiting for Ghirahim tho (YES I KNOW HE'S AN ASSIST TROPHY JUST LET ME DREAM)

I am curious. The FMVs are made from Nintendo or from other companies, such as Square Enix? Look great!
I never expected Sephiroth!

Not my personal choice but still very cool!

@nkarafo they’re made by Digital Frontier I think.

@Ogbert Oh. So, it's a 3rd party company..

@COVIDberry Wow! So that’s the one Sephiroth is summoning to win all Smash battles then?

(Oh, it missed. Clearly his plan got foiled again)

@thesilverbrick That Omnislash is the version used in The Advent Children movie.

@nkarafo Yeah, which is usually the case. Not many developers have their own in house animation studios too. It's quite a different task to the in-game animation.

The first Charakter i'll buy.
Maybe also the Hero and Banjo.

I'm not interested in the others.

@Marioracer like i said, i empathize, with the state of sonic in general. But hey, Sonic Mania is still an amazing triumph, and the Studiopolis theme (one of the best) got into Ultimate!

Okay, what kind of blood oath/Satanic ritual did Sakurai have to preform to get another Final Fantasy character in Smash?

But hey, another playable villain! The space-pirate murder-dragon was needing some company that was just as evil as him.

At least It's a villain character. Hope we get more and no more FE in smash, for now.

I honestly don't see the value in this. The game has way passed its sell by date for treating it like news worthy stuff anymore, it doesn't need attention in the Game Awards, in my honest opinion.

It's online is a mess, some matches are fine and some are not, nothing is consistent. The Single player is fine for about 50-60 hours but it doesn't carry a game this far - it came out more than 2 years ago now.

Local multiplayer is really all that is left and right now, with Covid 19, that's not much of an option.

I personally don’t see the value in this, they don’t even need to make a big hoohaa about it.

It's one new character when the game has 80+ in it already. Why does it need to be announced at the game awards like it's some big deal?

@Tsuchinoko hey there, sorry but I went to bed before I saw your reply ahahah
Btw I like some of your picks, I would love to see Takamaru or some old Nintendo character reinvented like Pit and Duck Hunt!
Those two are my favorite characters in the game, and Mr. G&W is not that far off...so yeah, I like me some retro characters ahahahah

@SmaggTheSmug anyone's better than Byleth 😉

@SmaggTheSmug Don't forget Pokemon villain Incineroar!

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Razer A lot of things to consider but I will just name a few. Smash is the biggest crossover in gaming history, so any character reveal is noteworthy by fans and non-fans alike. The switch is still selling like hotcakes so there are plenty of people still picking up older games (like Smash) for the console, especially since it is a popular title.

Another thing that you might not know, Smash is one of those games with lasting value. Even with covid and mediocre online, people still find a way to play and have fun with it. I play with my friends over LAN cable and the connection is smooth most of the time. I just introduced some of my playstation buddies to smash and they love it already. I’m not a single player kind of guy so I can’t speak on that perspective.

In terms of popularity, Smash deserves all the hype it gets

THE OG EDGELORD IS IN SMASH!!
THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!!11!!

Nintendo did want Sora in smash but Disney refused to include Sora in smash.

https://screenrant.com/smash-bros-sephiroth-dlc-ff7-cloud-repeat-ssbu/

Sephiroth is a unique sword character. Also almost all sword characters are popular characters.

Sephiroth is also a popular video game villain. Cloud is in smash so it makes sense for a main character to get their arch enemy.

Also, FF 7 is on switch. The OG one. The remake could happen but it is unlikely.

I think a lot of people will like Sephiroth more than Sora due the popularity of Sephiroth

@thesilverbrick That's what they could've said just to throw people off

Chills, man. Chills. I don't even like Smash all that much and I'm still super hype for Sephiroth! I love FF7 so much

Sephiroth is AWESOME

Haven't ever played too much FF but this reveal still made me happy and notice how this reveal has probably gotten the least bad reaction, just shows that Nintendo (mostly) knows what they're doing

@JereJK nah i don't think so.

If Smash deserves all this hype then why not dedicated servers? The online is a mess, you may get 1 or 2 decent games but you'll always find someone with a dodgy connection and it'll ruin the experience.

Local multiplayer hasn't really been a thing for most of 2020, not like you can get togethers with friends at a house and play Smash for a few hours anymore.

The game has about 60 hours of solo content available.

It came out 2 years ago, in terms of success through revenue and sales, Red Dead Redemption 2 has done better and came out around the same time.

I don’t hear Rockstar making a big hoohaa over a 2 year old game.

So no i have to disagree, i put 120 hours in Smash, I've had 2 years to do it, it hasn't been too difficult. But the game had it's time, it shouldn't be the showpiece of Nintendo's Game Awards.

Man seeing sephirot. He and ganon so fit together i wish they give ganondorf also the special treatment, or calamity ganon lol.

I see quite a lot of positive reactions to this, so I’m happy for everyone who’s happy with it. Afraid I’m just not one of them. These humanoid Anime sword swingers all look and play too similarly for me. I guess they’re set apart from each other by some of their specific special moves, but it’s not really my thing to begin with so they all seem like the same thing over and over. I suppose the amount of them in Smash is proportionate to how popular the games they come from are, though. Hard to argue that Final Fantasy isn’t big enough to warrant it.

I’d have preferred Crash, but I guess to some he would be the redundant one, just another cartoon animal mascot jumping and bopping around. To each his own.

@RareFan I also appreciate that. It's wonderful isn't? ☺

How deliciously evil. No offense to the other villains in the game currently but it really feels like a whole new level has shown up.

@WickedUnicarnBoi Sephiroth is one of the baddest villains in videogames. Final Fantasy VII (look up the GameTrailers retrospective on it it's really good) and Minecraft made massive impacts on the gaming industry to be fair. It's kind of crazy that everybody's getting something they like in Smash.

I'll be honest, I had to read a lot longer than usual to get to the salt about this character reveal.

It seems we are making progress.

@Leuke You have no idea.
Final Fantasy VII Remake was nominated for Game of the Year and won RPG of the Year. This was a shocking and delightful surprise to millions all over the world, much like in the case of Minecraft Steve. He's not from an obscure game is what I'm saying lol.

@rjejr I agree. SEPHIROTH would have been the perfect boss for PlayStation All-Stars. Have you noticed it's a little funny that Smash Brothers has a roster of Sony related characters that rivals that game? (Solid Snake, Cloud, Joker, Richter Belmont, SEPHIROTH). Man this is the stuff of various Project M fanmods, but now it's real! It's mind-boggling.
Also, the sword on that amiibo is going to be the size of a pencil.

@Robzilla Now HE was a hard boss.

That they dared to go this far with the video, making the suggestion that Mario got impaled? That's ballsey. Pretty cool video by the way, but yet ANOTHER sword-fighter. They must be the easiest to make (just joking, I don't know).

Lol the release date will be right after the direct 🤣

@TrevorMcD I don't care how big that amiibo sword is going to be it's going on my shelf next to Cloud. Heck I'll build an entire new set of shelves if I have to. (I've built several already, my kids were into ALL the toys to life.)

Skylanders

amiibo

Disney Infinity

This reveal was SOOOOO MUCH BETTER than the steve reveal

"I'm gonna kill you all; to DEATH!" I was personally disappointed by this reveal. Here are my top picks:
1. Master Kohga
2. Nacho Libre
3. Aang
4. Spider-Man
5. Barry B. Benson

Okay I don't get the hate on sword characters. A sword is probably the most classic weapon of all time. Its a FIGHTING GAME for the lord Cthulu's sake.

@stipey You know who would be a really cool sword character? Barry B. Benson, from the hit game "Bee Movie Game" for nintendo Wii.

@SmaggTheSmug

Agree.

Either DoomGuy or Master Chief.

And if it is DoomGuy, he better have the BFG as his final smash.

@CheekyZelda

I agree. I actually play several of the sword characters.

Mains: Zelda, Byleth, Cloud
Secondaries: Roy, Marth, Banjo, DK, Bowser

@Razer Doesn’t matter how much time you personally put into the game, you don’t get to decide whether the game is past its time or if it deserves to appear at the game awards or not.

@CheekyZelda That's a fun list, but you may want to know that characters for Smash Brothers have to be from gaming, not from movies or animation or manga or comics they have to originate from video games. Master Kohga would be interesting, I personally want Urbosa but I'm not sure it'll happen.

@rjejr Whoa nice! You ballin'.

@TrevorMcD Yeah, nobody can blame the death of toys too life on my family. 😂 Heck, we even got Starlink w/ Starfox. And then there's the cardboard.

@TrevorMcD Yeah it was a joke. Interestingly, all of these characters have a video game adaptation on a Nintendo console.

To be Honest I kinda knew he was next there was some clues that only he has..

@clvr 💖💖💖

@Razer "I don’t hear Rockstar making a big hoohaa over a 2 year old game."

No, it isn't.
It's making a big hoohaa over a 7 year old game lol 😂

@clvr yeah well GTA 5 is different and you know it, it was still in the top 10 best selling games even as recently as earlier this year. Any game that sells as much and as consistently would be considered a big deal.

It's the best selling AAA video game of all time by a very long margin. It's not just Rockstar who make a big hoohaa around that game, every publication in the history of video games sings its praises. The game has reached a mythical status that quite frankly, makes me feel bad for Rockstar having to follow it up somehow.

Smash Ultimate won't hit 30m lifetime sales on the Switch, possibly 25-27- which is nothing to sniff at, but GTA 5 is a different type of fish here.

@Razer Much of what you said could also describe Smash Ultimate: "still in the top 10 best selling games even as recently as earlier this year. Any game that sells as much and as consistently would be considered a big deal." "Every publication in the history of video games sings its praises. The game has reached a mythical status that quite frankly, makes me feel bad for [HAL Laboratories/Nintendo] having to follow it up somehow." No one's denying GTAV's and Online's phenomenal success, we're just saying Smash Ultimate is still wildly successful in it's own right, so it gets a segment at the Game Awards. Highest selling fighting game of all time and all.