I see no reason why a game from 2023 can't be fully on cart in its current state, other than Capcom cheaping out as they did with most of their releases.
For me the best soccer/football game on Switch is still Captain Tsubasa and nothing will change it. I waited for a game like this since I was a kid and watched the original anime.
I love the subtitle lol! Alright, they're going full bonkers with the $666 release, I absolutely love it and love the idea. The price tho... go to hell.
People don't really have a problem with the price of the console, it's all about game prices, fake physical releases and to some also the paid upgrades. If you're not like me and you'll get Switch 2, you'll be probably just buying less games and that's it. Hoping everyone will be happy with it.
@LoroTalby "For all the hundreds of pro-physical game posts we see, could we at least see one representing the other side of the argument?"
There's no argument, what's wrong with digital games? Are they unavailable? We're talking about stupid game-key cards instead of a full physical release. That's the problem. If you're good with digital games that's fine. On the other fence, people want full games on physical. So I don't understand what you're writing about.
in general, both have their advantages and disadvantages. It's all about full game on carts, that's why it's so loud about it.
Even Nobunaga's Ambition that has a full physical release of the Switch 1 version? Congratulations! This shows a lot. Expect at least 60%-70% of games to be releaed as a game-key card then. Also I agree with him 100%, I keep saying this over and over again.
@EarthboundBenjy It's literally why he tweeted only this. Why do you think ex-president of Nintendo of America didn't add anything to that? It's so obvious what he did, simple deduction.
@Yoshi3 Exactly this and there's no need to cry for them. People just don't know what they're saying sometimes. Profit from new MK will be insane for them. That's pure greed, yes.
@Yoshi3 It's easy to tell how much new Mario Kart is really worth in money. Bundle will get you it for $50 and at this price they're willing to sell it. Simple as that. Everything else is a pure profit if not extra profit or extra extra profit in this case.
I just read new comment, exactly what you're saying.
@LUIGITORNADO What losses? What are the profits, contribution, expenses? If you don't know what they are, you can't talk about any losses and you can't predict.
"But if it’s the only place where you can play Mario, then you get your wallet out and you buy into it"
No, thanks you don't tell people what to do and tell them that it's alright. Give them $20 gift card and then it'll be fine for many in this situation, and you can repeat it.
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@Mommar Consumers shouldn't worry about that, they want a full game on a physical media. It's not their problem that the media itself is expensive to make, who chose it and is making it? Nintendo. It's all on them.
@Medic_alert Isn't it still the same though despite the enchancement? Just like any other game that will get it? Think about it, enchancement won't make it fully Switch 2 game, the whole code won't be rewritten.
"If we tried to use technology like software emulators...we’d have to run Switch 2 at full capacity, but that would mean the battery wouldn't last so long, so we did something that’s somewhere in between a software emulator and hardware compatibility."
Essentially, instead of pure emulation, the team developed a system that can translate and play Switch game data in real time. This saves the battery life, and overcomes the incompatibility problem. It's interesting to see the transparency here, Nintendo are working through games on the Switch 2, finding that some are not running so well, whilst others benefit, with the aim to ensure full compatibility with not just the Switch 2 console, but its new camera and Game Chat functions.
@tho_mi I don't think so. 1st party games probably will never reach even 32GB. 3rd parties won't bother with additional costs that will come with this.
@datamonkey Even without patches at least 90% of games you can finish for start to finish and that's what I expect when I'm buying physical media. Patches are alright only when they don't require downloading one that's the the size of the base game itself. That already has been the case for Switch games.
Overpriced, expensive format with low capacity where even 64GB might not be enough at some point for Switch 2 games. Good job Nintendo, just like with the first Switch. Companies will use game-key cards more often, because they will want to maximize profits without getting into unnecessary expenses. Primary reason why I'm not getting the new console as I am/was a physical collector.
@Anti-Matter 1st party will be full, yes. 3rd parties? You know, Switch 2 is in the age of 50+GB AAA titles. Companies won't pay for 64GB carts and everyone will see either game-key cards or something like let's say L.A. Noire where you had do download the rest of the game. It will be prety ugly, again. Smaller games should be fine, but it depends. It's Limited Run Games & co all over again situation, instead of giving people full games for even higher prices now. It's just unbeliavable to me.
So in summary, a lot of 3rd party big releases will be a game-key card. That's why Nintendo came up with this bullcrap, for them. To save their money, not buyer's and not with the idea that you can resell them. Remember, they're corporations and all they care about is profit with as little effort as possible.
CDPR said that it was an early build, being made in 7 weeks and that it doesn't represent the final product. It looks and runs good, that's 7 weeks, it'll run even better.
@Anti-Matter Nintendo games will ALWAYS be full on cart, no matter what. 1. They don't take a lot of space. 2. They would never do it, because it's their own invention (carts). At least that from them.
All the others, I don't even want to talk about it. We all had the demo experience from buying carts for first Switch, code in a box nonsense and prelude to game-key card aka Metal Gear Solid Collection for example.
@Spider-Kev That's the problem here, when I'm buying physical I just want to put it inside of a console and play it. I don't care about patches if game allows me to play it from the start to the end then I'm happy and this is how it should be. Not some new game-key card stupid invention.
@Medic_alert Yeah and I hate this. I had enough of demo versions (download the rest of the game) on Switch carts and now this, that's why I'm out. I'm just tired of this.
@Medic_alert Yes, but then there's a new problem with the game-key cards that I predict will be a large % of the "physical" releases, so I wouldn't count on that. Exactly this about digital as well, one + the other.
@BenAV You know, it just depends on the person. I love having all my games with me without having to download them over and over again. Others will be happy with for example 256 or 512GB overall. Play game, finish, remove and download another.
Well, pay absolutely for everything Directly kind of Direct. And pay a lot, especially for digital games or "physicals" (game-key cards) that I'm suspecting will be around 60%-70% overall. Beside that I like the hardware, except for the battery that right after "physicals" is a reason for me to not get it. Well, I'm happy tho for all the people who will buy it and will have fun with it. You'll finally get some strong machine that will be able to keep up with new releases.
@Medic_alert Exactly, I do have 2TB now but I had the same problem before with a 1TB. With Switch 2 even 1TB or 2TB will be a problem at some point. That is if you want to have all of your games installed there as well.
"Kawamoto: The battery life was another factor we had to balance. A high-performance processor and large system memory consume a lot of power, which reduces battery life. However, as we were finding that balance, we also needed to keep in mind that people will be playing on the go. We made various efforts to ensure the battery life wouldn't be reduced significantly, such as increasing the battery capacity to 1.2 times that of Switch."
They just took the wrong Switch for a comparison, the original one instead of OLED version. Absolutely not good enough and people will complain.
@skywake I'm familiar with the x86 architecture compared to ARM. Look at Ally X and its battery life. It's heavier, more bulky, but I guess that I don't have any other choice now for new games. I don't want to always carry a powerbank with me, this should not be the case with a portable gaming console. Allright, maybe, but I don't see myself pluggin in a console after 2h of gaming.
People were not satisfied, that's why they made OLED version. Same as with Deck OLED and Ally X. It's achievable and I'm sure that Nintendo will do it at some point as well, but I'm tired of playing their games and buying a refresh after a couple of years. They could have pulled it out right now, but they didn't and with this they lost me. People will complain about it sooner or later, just like with the first revision of Switch.
@LikelySatan I love it as well, I have a modded Switch and a modded PS Vita (btw all my games are legal, physicals). I'm looking at Deck but the battery life is also below my expectations, so I'll wait for the new ROG Ally and I'll just install Linux on it. Maybe SteamOS will be available somewhere at launch, that would be awesome. Oh, I've been using ExaGear for years, Winlator just recently on my phone and I love it.
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Re: ICYMI: Street Fighter 6 Is Also Getting A 'Standard' Release On Switch 2
I see no reason why a game from 2023 can't be fully on cart in its current state, other than Capcom cheaping out as they did with most of their releases.
Re: EA Sports Games For Switch 2 "Are Being Built Specifically For The New Handheld"
For me the best soccer/football game on Switch is still Captain Tsubasa and nothing will change it. I waited for a game like this since I was a kid and watched the original anime.
Re: DOOM + DOOM II Is Getting A New Limited Run Collector's Edition For $666
I love the subtitle lol! Alright, they're going full bonkers with the $666 release, I absolutely love it and love the idea. The price tho... go to hell.
Re: Talking Point: How Does Switch 2's Launch Price Compare To Past Nintendo Systems?
People don't really have a problem with the price of the console, it's all about game prices, fake physical releases and to some also the paid upgrades. If you're not like me and you'll get Switch 2, you'll be probably just buying less games and that's it. Hoping everyone will be happy with it.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Releasing Final 'Year 2' Fighter Alongside Switch 2 Game Launch
@Bobobiwan This was 50GB I think.
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of Donkey Kong Bananza Are In
I've seen the gameplay and man I'd play this game. Red Faction Gorilla!
@Anti-Matter Games from Ninetndo itself will always be full on physical cart.
Re: Nintendo Says "Nothing Bad" Will Happen If You Press Switch 2's C Button Without A NSO Sub
Looking at how Nintendo is now, you can probably count on the latter one.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@LastFootnote 1TB so far:
https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-microSD-Compatible-Nintendo-LMSXPS0001T-BNNNU/dp/B0DYB9TNB4?th=1
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@LoroTalby "For all the hundreds of pro-physical game posts we see, could we at least see one representing the other side of the argument?"
There's no argument, what's wrong with digital games? Are they unavailable? We're talking about stupid game-key cards instead of a full physical release. That's the problem. If you're good with digital games that's fine. On the other fence, people want full games on physical. So I don't understand what you're writing about.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
Even Nobunaga's Ambition that has a full physical release of the Switch 1 version? Congratulations! This shows a lot. Expect at least 60%-70% of games to be releaed as a game-key card then. Also I agree with him 100%, I keep saying this over and over again.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aimé Weighs In On 'Switch 2 Welcome Tour' Controversy (Sort Of)
@EarthboundBenjy It's literally why he tweeted only this. Why do you think ex-president of Nintendo of America didn't add anything to that? It's so obvious what he did, simple deduction.
No Reggie, no free welcome tour.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 Exactly this and there's no need to cry for them. People just don't know what they're saying sometimes. Profit from new MK will be insane for them. That's pure greed, yes.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 It's easy to tell how much new Mario Kart is really worth in money. Bundle will get you it for $50 and at this price they're willing to sell it. Simple as that. Everything else is a pure profit if not extra profit or extra extra profit in this case.
I just read new comment, exactly what you're saying.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@LUIGITORNADO What losses? What are the profits, contribution, expenses? If you don't know what they are, you can't talk about any losses and you can't predict.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
"But if it’s the only place where you can play Mario, then you get your wallet out and you buy into it"
No, thanks you don't tell people what to do and tell them that it's alright. Give them $20 gift card and then it'll be fine for many in this situation, and you can repeat it.
Re: Video: Capcom Fighting Collection 2 Spotlights Project Justice And Plasma Sword
Finally, Capcom vs SNK 2! Capcom at this point already and finally gave the best of what they had back in the days.
Re: Scandinavian Nintendo Fans Are Considering Flying Abroad For Cheaper Switch 2s
It's crazy what's happening...
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
Just you wait, you don't know Nintendo? Of course there will be a DLC, not even one.
Re: Random: Of Course Nintendo Fans Are Already Camping Out For The Switch 2
Of course it's a YouTuber.
Re: Hades II Will Officially Launch On Switch 2 & Switch Ahead Of Other Consoles
Now that's a nice surprise! Waiting for physical, first Switch.
Re: Amazon UK's Switch 2 Pre-Orders Won't Be Invite-Only For Long
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Re: Switch 2 Game Cart Max Capacity Is 64GB, Says CD Projekt Red
@Mommar Consumers shouldn't worry about that, they want a full game on a physical media. It's not their problem that the media itself is expensive to make, who chose it and is making it? Nintendo. It's all on them.
Re: "Nothing's Perfect" - TOTK Might Still Struggle On Switch 2, If You're Building Crazy Mechs
@Medic_alert Isn't it still the same though despite the enchancement? Just like any other game that will get it? Think about it, enchancement won't make it fully Switch 2 game, the whole code won't be rewritten.
Re: "Nothing's Perfect" - TOTK Might Still Struggle On Switch 2, If You're Building Crazy Mechs
@Medic_alert Well yes kinda, like they're saying
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/04/the-switch-2-will-emulate-switch-games-because-it-shares-no-internal-hardware-with-its-predecessor
"If we tried to use technology like software emulators...we’d have to run Switch 2 at full capacity, but that would mean the battery wouldn't last so long, so we did something that’s somewhere in between a software emulator and hardware compatibility."
Essentially, instead of pure emulation, the team developed a system that can translate and play Switch game data in real time. This saves the battery life, and overcomes the incompatibility problem. It's interesting to see the transparency here, Nintendo are working through games on the Switch 2, finding that some are not running so well, whilst others benefit, with the aim to ensure full compatibility with not just the Switch 2 console, but its new camera and Game Chat functions.
Re: "Nothing's Perfect" - TOTK Might Still Struggle On Switch 2, If You're Building Crazy Mechs
What I would keep in mind is the fact that this game is emulated.
Re: Nintendo Confirms US Price For 'Switch 2 Welcome Tour'
I won't say anything new here. This is just ridiculous - says my PS Vita.
Re: Switch 2 Game Cart Max Capacity Is 64GB, Says CD Projekt Red
@tho_mi I don't think so. 1st party games probably will never reach even 32GB. 3rd parties won't bother with additional costs that will come with this.
@datamonkey Even without patches at least 90% of games you can finish for start to finish and that's what I expect when I'm buying physical media. Patches are alright only when they don't require downloading one that's the the size of the base game itself. That already has been the case for Switch games.
Re: Switch 2 Game Cart Max Capacity Is 64GB, Says CD Projekt Red
Overpriced, expensive format with low capacity where even 64GB might not be enough at some point for Switch 2 games. Good job Nintendo, just like with the first Switch. Companies will use game-key cards more often, because they will want to maximize profits without getting into unnecessary expenses. Primary reason why I'm not getting the new console as I am/was a physical collector.
Re: Community: Which Switch 2 Games Are You Wishlisting?
@Anti-Matter 1st party will be full, yes. 3rd parties? You know, Switch 2 is in the age of 50+GB AAA titles. Companies won't pay for 64GB carts and everyone will see either game-key cards or something like let's say L.A. Noire where you had do download the rest of the game. It will be prety ugly, again. Smaller games should be fine, but it depends. It's Limited Run Games & co all over again situation, instead of giving people full games for even higher prices now. It's just unbeliavable to me.
So in summary, a lot of 3rd party big releases will be a game-key card. That's why Nintendo came up with this bullcrap, for them. To save their money, not buyer's and not with the idea that you can resell them. Remember, they're corporations and all they care about is profit with as little effort as possible.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Switch 2 Cross-Progression Confirmed, Performance & Resolution Detailed
@Liam_Doolan Oh that's so nice of you, great! I can't wait to see how the final release will look like and I'll be waiting here for the review.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Switch 2 Cross-Progression Confirmed, Performance & Resolution Detailed
CDPR said that it was an early build, being made in 7 weeks and that it doesn't represent the final product. It looks and runs good, that's 7 weeks, it'll run even better.
Re: Community: Which Switch 2 Games Are You Wishlisting?
@Anti-Matter Nintendo games will ALWAYS be full on cart, no matter what. 1. They don't take a lot of space. 2. They would never do it, because it's their own invention (carts). At least that from them.
All the others, I don't even want to talk about it. We all had the demo experience from buying carts for first Switch, code in a box nonsense and prelude to game-key card aka Metal Gear Solid Collection for example.
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
@Spider-Kev That's the problem here, when I'm buying physical I just want to put it inside of a console and play it. I don't care about patches if game allows me to play it from the start to the end then I'm happy and this is how it should be. Not some new game-key card stupid invention.
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
@KoopaTheGamer Code in a box will be there for Switch 2 as well. So 3 types in general.
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
@AnonyQ The second from what I understand.
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
So it begins, RIP collectors.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
Just visit Canada, problem solved. Eh, I don't know what to tell you people from US...
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Medic_alert Yeah and I hate this. I had enough of demo versions (download the rest of the game) on Switch carts and now this, that's why I'm out. I'm just tired of this.
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Medic_alert Yes, but then there's a new problem with the game-key cards that I predict will be a large % of the "physical" releases, so I wouldn't count on that. Exactly this about digital as well, one + the other.
@BenAV You know, it just depends on the person. I love having all my games with me without having to download them over and over again. Others will be happy with for example 256 or 512GB overall. Play game, finish, remove and download another.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@skywake Whatever keeps you going mate. Don't reply to my messages anymore please, thanks.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
Well, pay absolutely for everything Directly kind of Direct. And pay a lot, especially for digital games or "physicals" (game-key cards) that I'm suspecting will be around 60%-70% overall. Beside that I like the hardware, except for the battery that right after "physicals" is a reason for me to not get it. Well, I'm happy tho for all the people who will buy it and will have fun with it. You'll finally get some strong machine that will be able to keep up with new releases.
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Medic_alert Exactly, I do have 2TB now but I had the same problem before with a 1TB. With Switch 2 even 1TB or 2TB will be a problem at some point. That is if you want to have all of your games installed there as well.
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Medic_alert Yes and 1TB would be the minimum you'd want to get for AAA games that will be around 50GB or more.
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@SViper It's 100% internal, but with microsd express it should be very comparable with up to 900MB/s speeds.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@skywake This discussion with you is pointless, so I'll stop it now. Thanks.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@skywake How is 2h compared to 4h the same?
Price will even out very quickly after you'll buy few games for Switch 2 vs Steam. You'll save even more money further down the road.
P.S. Don't forget about microsd express 1TB costs $200. That's a reasonable size nowadays, games are much larger.
Re: The Switch 2's Battery Is Almost A Match For The Steam Deck's
"Kawamoto: The battery life was another factor we had to balance. A high-performance processor and large system memory consume a lot of power, which reduces battery life. However, as we were finding that balance, we also needed to keep in mind that people will be playing on the go. We made various efforts to ensure the battery life wouldn't be reduced significantly, such as increasing the battery capacity to 1.2 times that of Switch."
They just took the wrong Switch for a comparison, the original one instead of OLED version. Absolutely not good enough and people will complain.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
Don't get me wrong, Cyberpunk shows that the hardware is strong. I like Switch 2, but I value battery life way too much.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@skywake I'm familiar with the x86 architecture compared to ARM. Look at Ally X and its battery life. It's heavier, more bulky, but I guess that I don't have any other choice now for new games. I don't want to always carry a powerbank with me, this should not be the case with a portable gaming console. Allright, maybe, but I don't see myself pluggin in a console after 2h of gaming.
People were not satisfied, that's why they made OLED version. Same as with Deck OLED and Ally X. It's achievable and I'm sure that Nintendo will do it at some point as well, but I'm tired of playing their games and buying a refresh after a couple of years. They could have pulled it out right now, but they didn't and with this they lost me. People will complain about it sooner or later, just like with the first revision of Switch.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@LikelySatan I love it as well, I have a modded Switch and a modded PS Vita (btw all my games are legal, physicals). I'm looking at Deck but the battery life is also below my expectations, so I'll wait for the new ROG Ally and I'll just install Linux on it. Maybe SteamOS will be available somewhere at launch, that would be awesome. Oh, I've been using ExaGear for years, Winlator just recently on my phone and I love it.