Maps and objectives are definitely a downside, but counterpoint: 500p Poison Ink, Hinderance Damage, and Sprinkler Sub was just about the coolest thing ever. They’re definitely banking on the builds being the main source of variety, but more variety from other sources would have been welcome, of course.
I had no use for the NSO app until Splatoon 3. Being able to make widgets with the stage schedules for various modes so that I can check without opening the game or the NSO app for that matter. Otherwise I would say the app’s completely useless, but I find this feature very satisfying.
@HeadPirate but, I should certainly add that you’re right. It’s really worthwhile that they put in the effort to make genuinely good three-choice themes. I would guess a whole team has the time and minds to come up with way more and way better than what I came up with in a few minutes. It is objectively WAY harder to come up with 3s than This or That like they did in the previous games.
@HeadPirate 1. Liking and using are different things 2. They did in S1 and could again 3,4. I foresee no difficulty getting the rights to properties owned by the same company. They’ve already done Mushroom Vs Star. 5. This is a complex one that would probably need to be different for every region, which may be more trouble than they see as worth it. 6. lessgo!! 7. I did not know dogs went that hard globally, but I believe it (being a cat dad myself) 8. I’m not Japanese, but I presume when asked “do you prefer to spend time off at the beach, in the mountains, or in the city” they would understand the question. 9. Of course 10. Yeah, just kinda threw that in there to make it ten.
You make some good points, but I don’t think any of these would be nearly as lopsided as Gear, Grub, Fun or Nessie, Aliens, Bigfoot (the latter especially suffering from NA really being the only ones that care about Bigfoot).
I also didn’t say Japan was being odd. I think their regional Splatfests have been perfect for them; they’re just things the world can’t really relate to in day-to-day life.
@swoose @HeadPirate Planes, Trains, Automobiles (Based on an English saying, but I think the premise is universal enough). SpongeBob, Patrick, Squidward Mario, Luigi, Wario Peach, Daisy, Rosalina Baseball, Basketball, Fútbol (Regionalize that for USA if necessary) Land, Sea, Sky Dogs, Cats, Both (or neither? fish?) Beach, Mountains, City (Vacations) Squid Sisters, Off the Hook, Deep Cut (They may be saving that one for last since we’ve already had Shiver, Fry, Big Man) Jacket, Hoodie, Sweater
I’m not saying all of those are winners, but I came up with them in five minutes. Surely a whole team with more time could come up with some good ones.
I do wonder though, if the western regions get less notice. Maybe Japan decides a theme and then the rest of the world has to decide pretty quickly if they’re doing that theme or something regional? I only say that because I feel the most oddball themes (Handshake, Fist Bump, Hug, and this most recent one) were the result of regional Splatfests.
All that aside, I would never say no to more Big Runs. I like Salmon Run even more than the normal multiplayer modes
I guess I get the “sending a message” part, but I still think punishing him like this for the rest of his life is insane. Think we can get $14.5 million onto his GoFundMe? 🙃
Rougelike that takes place in a Spire? Hmm 😉 That said, I will be playing this nonstop on release. I’m a huge fan of Splatoon’s bread and butter multiplayer modes, but a more replayable option for single player sounds like it will be a breath of fresh air.
Bringing up the comparison reminds me of being a pretty young kid playing Metroid Prime and trying to describe it to my buddy. I ended up telling him “It’s like the whole game is a huge Zelda dungeon.”
“The Nintendo 'gigaleak' would later reveal that two subsequent Kalos journeys had been planned…”
I haven’t seen the leak myself, but do we know if this refers to an XZ & YZ scenario a la USUM or B2W2? Or is it talking about a Pokémon Z and then yet another unknown Kalos game?
In either case, it feels like these games had their opportunity cut short by the 20th anniversary, which is ironic because SuMo felt rushed to release, with USUM essentially just being everything SuMo wished to be the first time and with all the legacy content you’d expect from an anniversary game.
The first one had next to no casual options, and competitively it was a spam-your-best-move-simulator. Not to mention that, while not totally atrocious at launch, it was mind-boggling some of the things not implemented at that point (read: voice acting).
They really need to give it all that they’ve got this time (which does actually look promising) and get some good reviews from casual players and competitive Smashers, or it’ll be dead on arrival. Apparently there was DLC for the first one after most of us stopped paying attention.
If this doesn’t do well, I feel like we might as well call the platform-fighter genre “Smashlikes” at this point, since literally only Smash and Rivals have been able to create games in the genre with enduring appeal.
@HeadPirate not to mention they have also sustained a nuclear disaster in recent history and are one of the countries most threatened by rising sea levels. End of the humanity through its own destruction is definitely something closer to home there than in the West, though we all would do well to be more aware, of course.
@crimsontadpoles there’s a set of four in particular (though, I don’t actually know whether they’re formally considered “legendaries”) that require some serious investigation to encounter. I found finding these in particular to be very refreshing compared to the massive influx of meaningless past legendaries a la SWSH DLC and USUM. It really brought me back to the likes of the legendary trio in RB or even XY which were rather easy to miss if you weren’t invested, but also not ridiculously hard to obtain if you were. A very balanced challenge IMO.
Retro can have as much time as they need to make MP4 a perfect experience, but once they’ve got the time and resources to devote to it, we need a DKC with K. Rool’s return to finish out the Returns trilogy.
@SoapMonki this tricolor map was a disaster compared to the last one. Defending team’s spawn was right at the first choke, so it was rare that attackers got through. Not that it ended up mattering that much, since my ten attempts to play tricolor all resulted in vanilla mirror matches.
After the last patch, everyone was like, “Okay, Wiggle Waluigi is OUT. Now Teddy Buggy is the objective best, so pick that if you want to win!” I’m not saying that the vehicle choices should be irrelevant/cosmetic, but I really hope that this game reaches a point that there are at least a handful of viable choices by the end of patches. I don’t mean statistically identical, but multiple options worth picking depending on playstyle and/or excelling on certain tracks.
I understand that they didn’t want to require any additional hardware, but I’d be a lot more interested if there was an alternative using Fitbit, since I use that to track my sleep anyway.
Not to sound like a cranky old man, but I remember early in the Switch’s life when every single game on the eShop was average or above. I’m not sure if the bar started being lowered or if more knockoff devs started hopping on board when they found out the Switch wasn’t another WiiU.
I’m all for the peacemaking and whatnot, but I don’t find it frustrating that people use glitches in a single player game. The actual frustration is the sheer amount of people online who talk about this obvious GOTY nominee as if it is a completely unplayable experience without them. It’s an incredible game with a flawed economy depending on who you ask. These glitches don’t make the game good - it’s already good.
I hadn’t been to Korok Forest yet. I went the route of getting all the Dragon Tears. That sequence of getting the last tear and getting the sword made me realize that “Tears of the Kingdom” refers not to the Dragon Tears, but to the tears that I would shed during all that.
It would be an instant download for me if it had Apple Watch or Fitbit support. I usually leave my phone charging where I have to get out of bed to turn the alarm off, and the rare occasions were I get so tired that I leave it in bed, it’s usually under the pillow where it won’t work.
I voted “ties to the main story,” but let me be more specific. I know it’s a video game and I have the right to play it how I want and advance the story at my own pace, but I find myself having a hard time getting invested in side quests when the main story is presented as urgent.
If the story tells me “there’s a monster attacking this town on this part of the map RIGHT NOW. Get there quick and help them!”, it feels awkward to ignore that and go play a mini game or help find somebody’s cat.
That’s a complex thing to balance though, because a good story should have some of that urgency. MM and TOTK handled it well if you ask me. MM has the urgency of the moon, but it doesn’t feel strange to spend time doing other things since you can reset the clock. TOTK says “hey, we’re looking for Zelda. Here’s the four leads we have so far.” That in itself doesn’t present urgency, even though the four phenomena themselves do once you actually get to them. It also helps that many of the sidequests actually do tie into the overarching “Find Zelda” main quest, like those you get from Penn.
@Lightsiyd TOTK doesn’t have any way to connect with other players online, so there’s not really something for Nintendo to stop unless they really crack down on videos and pictures uploaded to the internet. As for what’s being made, it’s nothing close to being able to literally snap a picture of anything; just the fact that you can move most objects including two round bombs and a log.
What is everyone’s thoughts on waiting to play until all the chapters are released? I loved Undertale, but decided all the way back when chapter 1 of Deltarune was released to wait until all chapters of were out, but as the (worthwhile) wait gets longer and longer, I get less sure that I should postpone chapter 1 and 2.
Just because they’re not trying to outspec you and see who can pump out more greyish titles doesn’t mean they’re not in competition with you.
Almost all CODs I’ve played have been on Nintendo consoles except a brief excursion during BO1 and BO2 due to tons of people I know wanting to play together on Xbox Live. That leaves me with Finest Hour on GC, MW1 (ahem, the original MW1, that is) on Wii and DS, and WaW on Wii. Great times, especially with WaW, even despite us getting left out of zombies mode.
I also buy most Nintendo first party releases and have 600+ hours in Splatoon 3, so I guess that makes me the imaginary person Sony’s thinking of.
@ClaytThaGreat exactly. The assumption is being made that Furukawa is talking about NSO accounts, but he could very easily mean our Nintendo accounts, period. My Nintendo account on Switch is technically the one I made for Wii U, but that didn’t impact what I have access to on Switch at all.
Best case, though, he IS referring to NSO accounts (which I guess means the next console would have Switch in the name. Switch U? New Switch?). If this is the case, it alleviates the lack of virtual console even more, since we’d theoretically have the current NSO library and it would only keep growing.
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Re: Poll: What Switch Online Rare Game Are You Playing This Weekend?
Sorry, couldn’t hear that Rare made an announcement over the sound of Balatro and Side Order releasing in the same week (Battletoads rocks though)
Re: Review: Splatoon 3: Side Order - An Addictive Roguelite Just Shy Of Excellence
Maps and objectives are definitely a downside, but counterpoint: 500p Poison Ink, Hinderance Damage, and Sprinkler Sub was just about the coolest thing ever. They’re definitely banking on the builds being the main source of variety, but more variety from other sources would have been welcome, of course.
Re: Switch Online's Mobile App No Longer Compatible With Older OS
I had no use for the NSO app until Splatoon 3. Being able to make widgets with the stage schedules for various modes so that I can check without opening the game or the NSO app for that matter. Otherwise I would say the app’s completely useless, but I find this feature very satisfying.
Re: Team Friday Triumphs In Splatoon 3's Latest Splatfest
@NerdyBoutKirby oh, I’m so in. Team Axe all the way
Re: Team Friday Triumphs In Splatoon 3's Latest Splatfest
@HeadPirate but, I should certainly add that you’re right. It’s really worthwhile that they put in the effort to make genuinely good three-choice themes. I would guess a whole team has the time and minds to come up with way more and way better than what I came up with in a few minutes. It is objectively WAY harder to come up with 3s than This or That like they did in the previous games.
Re: Team Friday Triumphs In Splatoon 3's Latest Splatfest
@HeadPirate
1. Liking and using are different things
2. They did in S1 and could again
3,4. I foresee no difficulty getting the rights to properties owned by the same company. They’ve already done Mushroom Vs Star.
5. This is a complex one that would probably need to be different for every region, which may be more trouble than they see as worth it.
6. lessgo!!
7. I did not know dogs went that hard globally, but I believe it (being a cat dad myself)
8. I’m not Japanese, but I presume when asked “do you prefer to spend time off at the beach, in the mountains, or in the city” they would understand the question.
9. Of course
10. Yeah, just kinda threw that in there to make it ten.
You make some good points, but I don’t think any of these would be nearly as lopsided as Gear, Grub, Fun or Nessie, Aliens, Bigfoot (the latter especially suffering from NA really being the only ones that care about Bigfoot).
I also didn’t say Japan was being odd. I think their regional Splatfests have been perfect for them; they’re just things the world can’t really relate to in day-to-day life.
Re: Team Friday Triumphs In Splatoon 3's Latest Splatfest
@swoose @HeadPirate
Planes, Trains, Automobiles (Based on an English saying, but I think the premise is universal enough).
SpongeBob, Patrick, Squidward
Mario, Luigi, Wario
Peach, Daisy, Rosalina
Baseball, Basketball, Fútbol (Regionalize that for USA if necessary)
Land, Sea, Sky
Dogs, Cats, Both (or neither? fish?)
Beach, Mountains, City (Vacations)
Squid Sisters, Off the Hook, Deep Cut (They may be saving that one for last since we’ve already had Shiver, Fry, Big Man)
Jacket, Hoodie, Sweater
I’m not saying all of those are winners, but I came up with them in five minutes. Surely a whole team with more time could come up with some good ones.
I do wonder though, if the western regions get less notice. Maybe Japan decides a theme and then the rest of the world has to decide pretty quickly if they’re doing that theme or something regional? I only say that because I feel the most oddball themes (Handshake, Fist Bump, Hug, and this most recent one) were the result of regional Splatfests.
All that aside, I would never say no to more Big Runs. I like Salmon Run even more than the normal multiplayer modes
Re: Hacker Gary Bowser Discusses Post-Jail Life And Chipping Away At Nintendo's $14m
I guess I get the “sending a message” part, but I still think punishing him like this for the rest of his life is insane. Think we can get $14.5 million onto his GoFundMe? 🙃
Re: Splatoon 3 'Side Order' DLC Inks Its Way Onto Switch Next Month
Rougelike that takes place in a Spire? Hmm 😉
That said, I will be playing this nonstop on release. I’m a huge fan of Splatoon’s bread and butter multiplayer modes, but a more replayable option for single player sounds like it will be a breath of fresh air.
Re: Review: The Walking Dead: Destinies (Switch) - One Of The Worst Games Of The Year
The word “Mill” itself makes it seem like quantity over quality is all that matters to them
Re: Soapbox: Ocarina Of Time's Water Temple Was Tough, But It Doesn't Deserve Its Reputation
Bringing up the comparison reminds me of being a pretty young kid playing Metroid Prime and trying to describe it to my buddy. I ended up telling him “It’s like the whole game is a huge Zelda dungeon.”
Re: Soapbox: Pokémon X & Y - The Series' Greatest Paradoxes
“The Nintendo 'gigaleak' would later reveal that two subsequent Kalos journeys had been planned…”
I haven’t seen the leak myself, but do we know if this refers to an XZ & YZ scenario a la USUM or B2W2? Or is it talking about a Pokémon Z and then yet another unknown Kalos game?
In either case, it feels like these games had their opportunity cut short by the 20th anniversary, which is ironic because SuMo felt rushed to release, with USUM essentially just being everything SuMo wished to be the first time and with all the legacy content you’d expect from an anniversary game.
Re: Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 Announced, Squidward & Jimmy Neutron Join The Roster
The first one had next to no casual options, and competitively it was a spam-your-best-move-simulator. Not to mention that, while not totally atrocious at launch, it was mind-boggling some of the things not implemented at that point (read: voice acting).
They really need to give it all that they’ve got this time (which does actually look promising) and get some good reviews from casual players and competitive Smashers, or it’ll be dead on arrival. Apparently there was DLC for the first one after most of us stopped paying attention.
If this doesn’t do well, I feel like we might as well call the platform-fighter genre “Smashlikes” at this point, since literally only Smash and Rivals have been able to create games in the genre with enduring appeal.
Re: Video: Pikmin Lore Is Incredibly In-Depth And Often Terrifying
@HeadPirate not to mention they have also sustained a nuclear disaster in recent history and are one of the countries most threatened by rising sea levels. End of the humanity through its own destruction is definitely something closer to home there than in the West, though we all would do well to be more aware, of course.
Re: Splatoon 3 Version 4.1.0 Goes Live Today, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
They haven’t done anything too big yet, but they’ve definitely got eyes on what Ballpoint’s been cooking.
Re: Soapbox: Catching Legendary Pokémon The Old-Fashioned Way Was So Much Better
@crimsontadpoles there’s a set of four in particular (though, I don’t actually know whether they’re formally considered “legendaries”) that require some serious investigation to encounter. I found finding these in particular to be very refreshing compared to the massive influx of meaningless past legendaries a la SWSH DLC and USUM. It really brought me back to the likes of the legendary trio in RB or even XY which were rather easy to miss if you weren’t invested, but also not ridiculously hard to obtain if you were. A very balanced challenge IMO.
Re: Poll: Which Dormant Nintendo Franchise Would You Most Like To See Return?
Retro can have as much time as they need to make MP4 a perfect experience, but once they’ve got the time and resources to devote to it, we need a DKC with K. Rool’s return to finish out the Returns trilogy.
Re: Nintendo Updates Pikmin 4 To Version 1.0.1, Here's What's Included
Uh oh, if this update took out duplication glitches, how am I supposed to get 999 diamond pikmin that I’ll never use?
Re: Team Vanilla Wins Splatoon 3's Ice Cream-Themed Splatfest
@SoapMonki this tricolor map was a disaster compared to the last one. Defending team’s spawn was right at the first choke, so it was rare that attackers got through. Not that it ended up mattering that much, since my ten attempts to play tricolor all resulted in vanilla mirror matches.
Re: 'Nintendo Magazine 2023 Summer' Showcases Upcoming Switch Releases
@Altaria_97 L(ink) is Real
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Version 2.4.0) Character & Vehicle Performance Balance Changes Revealed
After the last patch, everyone was like, “Okay, Wiggle Waluigi is OUT. Now Teddy Buggy is the objective best, so pick that if you want to win!” I’m not saying that the vehicle choices should be irrelevant/cosmetic, but I really hope that this game reaches a point that there are at least a handful of viable choices by the end of patches. I don’t mean statistically identical, but multiple options worth picking depending on playstyle and/or excelling on certain tracks.
Re: Hands On: Pokémon Sleep (Open Beta) - An Absolute Snoozefest
I understand that they didn’t want to require any additional hardware, but I’d be a lot more interested if there was an alternative using Fitbit, since I use that to track my sleep anyway.
Re: Random: Digital Foundry Says Switch 'Last Of Us' Clone Has "No Redeeming Features Whatsoever"
Not to sound like a cranky old man, but I remember early in the Switch’s life when every single game on the eShop was average or above. I’m not sure if the bar started being lowered or if more knockoff devs started hopping on board when they found out the Switch wasn’t another WiiU.
Re: Random: Get On This Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Rupee Glitch Before It's Patched
I’m all for the peacemaking and whatnot, but I don’t find it frustrating that people use glitches in a single player game. The actual frustration is the sheer amount of people online who talk about this obvious GOTY nominee as if it is a completely unplayable experience without them. It’s an incredible game with a flawed economy depending on who you ask. These glitches don’t make the game good - it’s already good.
Re: Soapbox: Getting The Master Sword In Tears Of The Kingdom Is Zelda At Its Best
I hadn’t been to Korok Forest yet. I went the route of getting all the Dragon Tears. That sequence of getting the last tear and getting the sword made me realize that “Tears of the Kingdom” refers not to the Dragon Tears, but to the tears that I would shed during all that.
Re: PSA: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom News Channel Giving Out Free In-Game Items
@calbeau “How am I supposed to get 999 diamonds and more money than I could ever possibly spend by ‘playing normally’?”
Re: How Well Do You Know The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
Curses! I only missed the Dragon’s Tears one. I knew it was (Amount of Geoglyphs + 1), but I forgot how many there Geoglyphs there were.
Re: Pokémon Sleep Will Help You "Rest Your Very Best" Later This Month
It would be an instant download for me if it had Apple Watch or Fitbit support. I usually leave my phone charging where I have to get out of bed to turn the alarm off, and the rare occasions were I get so tired that I leave it in bed, it’s usually under the pillow where it won’t work.
Re: Talking Point: What Makes A Good Sidequest, Anyway?
I voted “ties to the main story,” but let me be more specific. I know it’s a video game and I have the right to play it how I want and advance the story at my own pace, but I find myself having a hard time getting invested in side quests when the main story is presented as urgent.
If the story tells me “there’s a monster attacking this town on this part of the map RIGHT NOW. Get there quick and help them!”, it feels awkward to ignore that and go play a mini game or help find somebody’s cat.
That’s a complex thing to balance though, because a good story should have some of that urgency. MM and TOTK handled it well if you ask me. MM has the urgency of the moon, but it doesn’t feel strange to spend time doing other things since you can reset the clock. TOTK says “hey, we’re looking for Zelda. Here’s the four leads we have so far.” That in itself doesn’t present urgency, even though the four phenomena themselves do once you actually get to them. It also helps that many of the sidequests actually do tie into the overarching “Find Zelda” main quest, like those you get from Penn.
Re: Everybody 1-2-Switch! Player Icon Uploads Don't Appear To Block Explicit Photos Online
@Lightsiyd TOTK doesn’t have any way to connect with other players online, so there’s not really something for Nintendo to stop unless they really crack down on videos and pictures uploaded to the internet. As for what’s being made, it’s nothing close to being able to literally snap a picture of anything; just the fact that you can move most objects including two round bombs and a log.
Re: Toby Fox Shares Development Update On Deltarune Chapter 3
What is everyone’s thoughts on waiting to play until all the chapters are released? I loved Undertale, but decided all the way back when chapter 1 of Deltarune was released to wait until all chapters of were out, but as the (worthwhile) wait gets longer and longer, I get less sure that I should postpone chapter 1 and 2.
Re: Microsoft CEO Says He Would "Love To Get Rid Of" Exclusives On Consoles
How saintly. Activision should just let themselves be acquired for free when this is all said and done.
Re: PlayStation Boss Doesn't Think Call Of Duty Appeals To Nintendo's Core Audience
Just because they’re not trying to outspec you and see who can pump out more greyish titles doesn’t mean they’re not in competition with you.
Almost all CODs I’ve played have been on Nintendo consoles except a brief excursion during BO1 and BO2 due to tons of people I know wanting to play together on Xbox Live. That leaves me with Finest Hour on GC, MW1 (ahem, the original MW1, that is) on Wii and DS, and WaW on Wii. Great times, especially with WaW, even despite us getting left out of zombies mode.
I also buy most Nintendo first party releases and have 600+ hours in Splatoon 3, so I guess that makes me the imaginary person Sony’s thinking of.
Re: Shuntaro Furukawa: Switch Successor Will Utilise The 'Nintendo Account' System
@ClaytThaGreat exactly. The assumption is being made that Furukawa is talking about NSO accounts, but he could very easily mean our Nintendo accounts, period. My Nintendo account on Switch is technically the one I made for Wii U, but that didn’t impact what I have access to on Switch at all.
Best case, though, he IS referring to NSO accounts (which I guess means the next console would have Switch in the name. Switch U? New Switch?). If this is the case, it alleviates the lack of virtual console even more, since we’d theoretically have the current NSO library and it would only keep growing.
Re: Random: What Does Link Weigh In Tears Of The Kingdom? One Fan Builds Scale To Find Out
Ganondorf must be at least 11 apples
Re: New Limited-Time Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Distribution Now Available
C’mon GameFreak, give us a Gastrodon with scald you cowards!