@VoidofLight Thanks for checking that out. I wonder why some people see it and others dont. I’d love to play these games but I just cannot get past that. It legit hurts my eyes.
@VoidofLight The go to game I show for this is animal crossing. Fire up the game with the character surrounded by trees, look at a tree and then start walking, does the tree look as sharp (and not doubling up/ghosting etc) while walking as they do while standing?
On this paper mario, does a fence look to you the exact same while moving as it does while standing still? Look at the post on a fence and then make it move across the screen, is it completely solid or does it double up slightly?
@VoidofLight It would be good to see it in person, lmk if you're ever in Glasgow. Usually the reaction I get when I show people irl is "oh yeah, it does look bad" and they may say something along the lines of having never seen that before but can now not unsee it.
Some games are worse than others. I tend to find games where the character is moving left/right (such as in ac or luigis mansion) on the screen to be worse whereas a game where the character is moving forward gets away with it more as the trees etc are moving slower such as in botw. The absolute worst was pokemon on switch.
@VoidofLight This is exactly how it looks to me and I have tried all sorts of monitors, games and consoles from old hd readys up to 240hz gaming monitors.
These images were all taken from regular gameplay. If anything they look even more pronounced than the youtube video. Also my image of the peach gameplay was from the demo.
@VoidofLight These are just screenshots. This is what I see every time I there is movement on a 30fps game. Every time I show someone in person they see it too. Maybe I should video myself capturing these.
@Bonggon5 I’m maybe using the wrong word, I mean this. Happens on all display types. Video is just lots of images in quick succession which makes the still images look like video unfortunately 30fps isnt quite enough to create this illusion therefore it just looks like lots of images so sometimes there is the previous image and the next one.
@BTB20 I am unable to play 30fps games, especially ones where the character is moving on the X axis as the ghosting effect grills my eyes. Its ok if it’s maybe a chess game or something or if the character is moving directly ahead therefore the assets are not moving as quickly and the game can keep up with itself. I have a tamagotchi which runs at 12fps iirc and it’s fine for that but all non chess related console games need to be running at a minimum of 60fps.
I’d give it a 4.5/10 due to framerate. If the framerate is half what it should be then the final score gets cut in half also as it renders most games unplayable.
Stick all of the games in a single game with QOL features for £40 and be done with it. These collections are garbage. Other than dedicated collectors, who is buying this? Official releases should be better than whats available via piracy, not significantly worse.
Of course it's a flop, why would anyone buy this after 99 got pulled? I was a huge fan of pac-man 99 and this is inferior. None of this makes any sense.
I always laugh when people say (insert name of social media) is full of bad people or whatever, these things are what you make them and reflect what you use and search for. My twitter feed is full of indie game developers and car people with the odd thing from another one or two of my hobbies, Warhammer, maybe a fitness thing etc. If it’s full of negativity it’s only yourself to blame.
It’s kind like when that US senator complained that the adverts on a site he visited had mens lingerie (or whatever it was) advertised not knowing that they were targeted ads based on his previous searches 🤣🤣
@Clammy No, I have done pretty thorough research. I have used 3 switches, my own and 2 borrowed ones over the course of testing. I went to currys when pokemon sword and shield came out and tested; luigis mansion, pokemon shield and later ran tests on animal crossing.
In currys and later at my brothers house. He has multiple monitors including 250hz gaming monitors and all tvs and monitors showed ghosting, doubling of images etc. it was not just witnessed by me but by everyone I have shown in person.
@Clammy I am yet to meet someone where we are in the same room and I point out the ghosting effects of 30fps and they can see it. I dont want to personally offend your physical attributes but unless you need glasses or your brain is literally not fast enough to see it, I dont know what to say.
@Clammy I’m unable to play games at 30. I prefer 60 with the occasional drop at least that way it’s mostly smooth and other times isnt rather than quick succession of images almost but never quite appearing as video. I notice with in 5 seconds if something is 30fps because everything looks like this in motion
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Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Dragon Quest III (NES)
@Branovices I am 100% with you on that one. I was about to write pretty much that word for word.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Define 'Retro'?
Some of those facts are hard hitting such as there’s more time between vice city and now than when it was set and when it was released. Brutal.
Re: Poll: Is $60 Too Much For Nintendo's Switch Re-Releases?
If the remake doesnt even run as well as the original then it’s not really worth anything.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight Thanks for checking that out. I wonder why some people see it and others dont. I’d love to play these games but I just cannot get past that. It legit hurts my eyes.
Re: Review: Picross S Namco Legendary Edition (Switch) - Picross Gets Pac-Man Fever
Is it touchscreen controls only? I downloaded the demo but couldnt get it going with a pro controller.
Re: Celeste Composer Reveals New Shmup RPG 'ANOTHEREAL'
Thats a day 1 purchase for me.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight The go to game I show for this is animal crossing. Fire up the game with the character surrounded by trees, look at a tree and then start walking, does the tree look as sharp (and not doubling up/ghosting etc) while walking as they do while standing?
On this paper mario, does a fence look to you the exact same while moving as it does while standing still? Look at the post on a fence and then make it move across the screen, is it completely solid or does it double up slightly?
Re: Random: Fan Recreates Iconic Paper Mario: TTYD Boss Battle In Glorious Stop-Motion
This stop motion runs smoother than the actual game.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight It would be good to see it in person, lmk if you're ever in Glasgow.
Usually the reaction I get when I show people irl is "oh yeah, it does look bad" and they may say something along the lines of having never seen that before but can now not unsee it.
Some games are worse than others. I tend to find games where the character is moving left/right (such as in ac or luigis mansion) on the screen to be worse whereas a game where the character is moving forward gets away with it more as the trees etc are moving slower such as in botw. The absolute worst was pokemon on switch.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight This is exactly how it looks to me and I have tried all sorts of monitors, games and consoles from old hd readys up to 240hz gaming monitors.
These images were all taken from regular gameplay. If anything they look even more pronounced than the youtube video. Also my image of the peach gameplay was from the demo.
Character standing still - Looks sharp

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Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight These are just screenshots. This is what I see every time I there is movement on a 30fps game. Every time I show someone in person they see it too. Maybe I should video myself capturing these.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
@VoidofLight
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Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door?
The hill I will die on is that these games are unplayable at 30fps.
Re: Review: Hauntii (Switch) - A Beautiful Tale In A Bad State
I hope it gets fixed, looks gorgeous.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Codebase Apparently Contains References To 4K Output
I’d rather play something at 480p if it meant it ran smoothly.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Am I trolling/baiting when I can provide evidence? I dont think that what either trolling or baiting is.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door On Switch
Unstable 60 > stable 30. At least with the former it’s mostly fine whereas the latter never is.
Re: Review: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Switch) - Still The King Of Mario RPGs
@MegaChem I'm yet to show someone IRL who cant see them, usually after I point it out to them it can't be unseen.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
@CaleBoi25 I find this unacceptable
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60fps+ games don't do this.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
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Re: Review: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Switch) - Still The King Of Mario RPGs
@Bonggon5 I’m maybe using the wrong word, I mean this. Happens on all display types. Video is just lots of images in quick succession which makes the still images look like video unfortunately 30fps isnt quite enough to create this illusion therefore it just looks like lots of images so sometimes there is the previous image and the next one.
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/the_framerate_hill_am_willing_to_die_on
Character standing still - Looks sharp

Character movies - Blurs

Standing still

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Re: Review: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Switch) - Still The King Of Mario RPGs
@BTB20 I am unable to play 30fps games, especially ones where the character is moving on the X axis as the ghosting effect grills my eyes. Its ok if it’s maybe a chess game or something or if the character is moving directly ahead therefore the assets are not moving as quickly and the game can keep up with itself. I have a tamagotchi which runs at 12fps iirc and it’s fine for that but all non chess related console games need to be running at a minimum of 60fps.
Re: Review: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Switch) - Still The King Of Mario RPGs
I’d give it a 4.5/10 due to framerate. If the framerate is half what it should be then the final score gets cut in half also as it renders most games unplayable.
Re: UK Charts: The Usual Suspects Pad Out A Quiet Week Ahead Of Paper Mario
I would have loved to see animal well on here.
Re: Taito Milestones 3 Coming Winter 2024, First Batch Of Games Revealed
Stick all of the games in a single game with QOL features for £40 and be done with it. These collections are garbage. Other than dedicated collectors, who is buying this? Official releases should be better than whats available via piracy, not significantly worse.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Super Monkey Ball Adventure
Europe one in this case looks like a cheap knock-off.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Getting The Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition - Deluxe Set?
I want the game as physical not all the tat which comes with it
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Kart Zooms Onto The Podium, But It Can't Overtake Stellar Blade
@Johnny44 I just block them, I dont even see their posts.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Three More Classics
@X68000 Ok so, I’ve not played this for 25+ years and it’s way easier than I remember lol.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Three More Classics
I have never completed mario land 1 and with the nso rewind function, now I will.
Re: Talking Point: Which Games Were Just The Perfect Length?
Stillness of the wind.
Re: Review: Pac-Man Mega Tunnel Battle: Chomp Champs (Switch) - Pac-Man 99’s Successor Is A Flop
Of course it's a flop, why would anyone buy this after 99 got pulled? I was a huge fan of pac-man 99 and this is inferior. None of this makes any sense.
Re: Video: Nintendo World Championships Japanese Gameplay Officially Revealed
I'm well up for this tbh! I love the nes classics remix, although that did look better than this.
Re: EA Apparently Exploring The Idea Of In-Game Ads In Traditional AAA Titles
It’s no longer indie games and AAA, it’s just games and then the commercialisation and bastardisation of video games.
Re: Talking Point: One Year On, Has Everyone Beaten Ganondorf In Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
@Adol-Bannings The irony is that if I do try to play 30fps I legit need eyedrops.
Re: Talking Point: One Year On, Has Everyone Beaten Ganondorf In Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
I couldn't get past the part where the game ran at 30fps.
Re: Rumour: Switch Successor's Codename May Have Been Uncovered
The Switch U. You know they want to.
Re: Nintendo Discontinuing 'X' Integration On Switch Next Month
I always laugh when people say (insert name of social media) is full of bad people or whatever, these things are what you make them and reflect what you use and search for. My twitter feed is full of indie game developers and car people with the odd thing from another one or two of my hobbies, Warhammer, maybe a fitness thing etc. If it’s full of negativity it’s only yourself to blame.
It’s kind like when that US senator complained that the adverts on a site he visited had mens lingerie (or whatever it was) advertised not knowing that they were targeted ads based on his previous searches 🤣🤣
Re: Nintendo Discontinuing 'X' Integration On Switch Next Month
I thought it had already been removed I tried a bunch of times recently and got error codes.
Re: Soapbox: Are We Ready For A 3D Super Mario Maker?
YES! But not for me. I would love to see what people can come up with though!
Re: Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition Launches On Switch In July
My request has been answered! I have been asking for more nes classic remix content for years now.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate For Paper Mario: TTYD On Switch?
@Clammy No, I have done pretty thorough research. I have used 3 switches, my own and 2 borrowed ones over the course of testing. I went to currys when pokemon sword and shield came out and tested; luigis mansion, pokemon shield and later ran tests on animal crossing.
In currys and later at my brothers house. He has multiple monitors including 250hz gaming monitors and all tvs and monitors showed ghosting, doubling of images etc. it was not just witnessed by me but by everyone I have shown in person.
Some images here
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/the_framerate_hill_am_willing_to_die_on
And this was taken at the time of the original testing. This showed up from old 1080p monitors to 4k OLEDs to 250hz gaming monitors.
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Just to be sure I grabbed a fresh set of images taken right now.
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If this was not the case then why would there even be a discussion around 30 vs 60 fps?
Re: Poll: What's The Best Super Monkey Ball Game? Rate Your Favourites For Our Upcoming Ranking
I preferred kororinpa.
Re: Best SaGa Games Of All Time - Switch And Nintendo Systems
These games look fantastic but just not my bag, I am almost envious of those who can play these genres.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (4th May)
I’ll be playing a few different cave shooters, mostly mushihimesama.
Re: 'Please Fix The Road' Is The Perfect Puzzler For Anyone With A Pothole Problem
I’ll let Glasgow city council know about this one.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want To Reuse Your Joy-Con On 'Switch 2'?
My joy cons lived in the box for the first 5 years and I only use them when I accidentally download a demo which runs in handheld mode only.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate For Paper Mario: TTYD On Switch?
@Clammy I am yet to meet someone where we are in the same room and I point out the ghosting effects of 30fps and they can see it. I dont want to personally offend your physical attributes but unless you need glasses or your brain is literally not fast enough to see it, I dont know what to say.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate For Paper Mario: TTYD On Switch?
@Clammy I’m unable to play games at 30. I prefer 60 with the occasional drop at least that way it’s mostly smooth and other times isnt rather than quick succession of images almost but never quite appearing as video. I notice with in 5 seconds if something is 30fps because everything looks like this in motion
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/the_framerate_hill_am_willing_to_die_on
These are actual screenshots of a 30fps game which should have been 60. This is unplayable/unacceptable.
@eaglebob345 PC or you know, all my other games and consoles of the last 30 years.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate For Paper Mario: TTYD On Switch?
I’m simply unable to play 30fps unless it’s like a chess game or something.