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still waiting for a new Starfox game.

nobody knows this game is a BBTAN clone with a city builder minigame bolted on. Nothing wrong with that but BBTAN is a classic that never gets any recognition. ✌️

if there was a game before BBTAN with this style of gameplay, then I apologize profusely and beg forgiveness from the community.

PS - i went on a nostalgia trip just now and downloaded the latest version of BBTAN on play store ... this is NOT the game I fell in love with all those years ago! they added constant ads, changed the look, and just kinda ruined it.

anyway I'll be trying to find an old APK for posterity I mean "preservation" 👍

Physical copies for some, miniature American flags for others! 🇺🇸

@demacho

lol that's a good point! I've made a similar one about Sonic the Hedgehog kart racers 😂👍

the NA one is the only one that made me feel anything at all so it won. call it nostalgia, though I've never cared about Digimon per se. ✌️

@SabreLevant

"Wait who is actually wondering about this? The article asserts that 'fans are wondering whether it's too much'. The same fans who would've been clamoring for said OoT remake for a long time."

different fans want different things. 🥳

I thought this sounded like an awesome videogame idea, then I found out its just a bunch of cards. tears in the rain.

@SuperBro64

I've also heard good things about those games 👍

is this an argument that you "generally believe that remakes age better than original classics?"

@Jeronan

"I can go on and on.....So many great Nintendo IP's that have gone dark."

fzero
pilotwings
waverace
excite(bike)
kid icarus

I stay perpetually 10 years behind in my gaming almost as a rule, so the future is starting to have that Kurt Vonnegut "pitch black with a green haze" feel to it.

mark my words: I buy 90% digital, but I will never buy a console that does not support physical media.

@dew12333

"They focused on the looks rather than gameplay and forced the industry on this path to where we are now. (maybe add the dreamcast in there too)"

that's maybe the most misplaced critique I've ever seen on this site. Dreamcast was probably the most pure gameplay focused console ever made, which is my opinion but I mean, ask around 😂✌️

@norwichred

I had my first eyeful of Ollie's "bum gravy" about a week ago, and I had to comment as well 😂 I figured it was a UK thing but I guess it's just an Ollie thing!

In that context, it was "looks like bum gravy" which may have been a little more apropos than "runs like," as you've keenly illustrated 😅✌️

@Expa0

"The game looks like it is taking more notes from stuff like Hollow Knight and going moreso for that 2D souls gameplay rather than really going for the Castlevania style."

Have you played Dead Cells, another game made by this developer?

@N00BiSH

whoops I edited my comment before I saw yours 😂✌️

several humans! Noted. I kinda suspected as much, thanks for expanding on that.

btw are Nintendo still withholding credit on the app? shameful 😔

this is called being a "contrast gainer."

I guess we can assume Nintendo went behind a mountain and found this OST transcribed on stone tablets.

@N00BiSH

"Y'know, I'm the only person here who believes SF26 will age worse visually than the original did."

well, that makes two of us. ✌️ but yeah, I know that lol.

I played Starfox 2026 at a friends house, on a huge OLED tv, and it was just... blah. boring cutscenes, bland 'modern" graphics with less legibility than the original by far, and beyond boring gameplay that literally felt like "going through the motions." we were all gathered together, excited, and intended to beat it that evening but we got about 3 levels in and put it down.

If you've never played a Starfox game, you might pick this one up, but without the historical context or charm of the low poly graphics, I feel like it will "hit" like a standard modern game, albeit a short one with relatively simple gameplay.

personally I think you'd be better off enriching yourself with the classics first. 👍

(JUST MY OPINION everyone, in case anyone is taking my comments as some kind of "untrue facts" lol.)

serious question, do you all generally believe that remakes age better than original classics?

do you think people will be more interested in talking about "STARFOX 2026" or the SNES/64 games in 10 years? how about Ocarina? do you anticipate that it'll be a classic that stands alongside the original, or remembered as a footnote mostly for the way that it contrasts with the first game?

do you think we will look back in 15, 20 years, and say, "thank god we remade Starfox and Ocarina, because in 2026, videogames were finally "good," and we have these remakes to play instead of the original, inferior games?"

do you believe we will even still be talking about these remakes in 2028? are they truly a simple stopgap to keep the money flowing until they come up with some good ideas for theoretical future games, as some nominally pro-remake people have articulated here?

I haven't set foot in a Game Slop (yeah, I said it) in over a decade. have you?

@Ristar24

YES! we are of a mind, I think.

I like to think about the classic original Metal Gear Solid trilogy. part of what made those games "cinematic" was that the player/viewer was not in control of the camera, so as you run around you would get essentially cuts to wide angles, dutch angles, closeups, sweeping panoramas, etc etc. Newer games which are actively TRYING to seem "movie like" cant really do it, because the camera is under absolute control by the player, which ruins any possibility of artistic "photography" so to speak and is completely unlike the experience of watching any movie.

I feel like with modern games I'm playing camera as much as im playing a videogame, sort of "riding" the right analogue the whole time. consequently they all sort of play the same, regardless of how complex the controls and systems are, or even whether they are in 3rd person or first person.

anyway cheers 👍 thanks for replying!

@Tempestryke

I'm sorry. I dont see how your response correlates to my original comment, then. but no worries! ✌️

fwiw, I agree that not every game has "aged well" in the sense that some were deeply flawed from the beginning. 👍 but I also think that if we are going to pick from flawed games then in the context of this convo they should be games that are either getting remakes, gotten remade, or we think are worthy of getting remade, or else what are we talking about here?

Nintendo may or may not have invented the remake with all stars (I'd argue it was a remaster,) but to be fair that was also a compilation of some of the best games ever made, for the price of one game. kind of a different beast than just selling the same game again only "better."

(i also am straining to pick up on the relevance of All Stars or "who invented the remake" to this conversation to be frank.)

@Tempestryke

are we calling clu clu land and ice climbers true classic works of art that are in need of remakes?

my thing is, if it's "worth" remaking, it's already good and you should just play the masterpiece the way it was made the first time.

@nomither6

YES! if you are going to remaster a game, why not SSB and Melee?

And a new F zero for cryin out loud! Some part of me will never give up on that one though I doubt they can even make a game like X again. they don't seem to have it in them, sadly.

@Tempestryke

sometime who, does what? 😆 sorry i can't seem to put it together.

are there clu clu land and I've climbers remakes in not aware of?

videogame remakes are generally as interesting as movie remakes. only a dullard would look at a piece of truly classic art and say it "aged poorly."

new games, please. 👍

these kinds of games are about as stimulating for me as mowing the lawn.

I totally injured myself trying to "do good" in ring fit adventure on switch and now i don't mess around with these kinds of games. user error, but I feel like games just kinda put me in a headspace of sacrificing self to win, which is fine as long as I'm not likely to sustain an injury.

i can't imagine paying more than a few bucks for an Ubisoft game at this point.

@Dan420

this might not flip the entire equation, but wages haven't kept up with inflation, so you've missed a large part of the story.

second point: the fact that Switch 2 is cheaper than an XBOX doesn't make it any more affordable in amd of itself. a parent doesn't need to price compare with the competition of the kid is asking for a Nintendo and 500 is already out of budget. bottom line: people arent imagining that they've been priced out of mainstream gaming.

just my 0.02. ✌️

PS - I was so lucky to get a SNES, xmas '91. ❤️ thanks, grandpa!

@AllDigitalAllBuy

"Shouldn't you be out on a ledge, somewhere?"

@Danrenfroe2016

um, exactly! 😅

@spatsec

In my experience, there are two kinds of videogame "rumours:"

blatantly obvious ones, and wrong ones.

These companies seem to be making games that only 1% of people can even afford to own hardware that runs them smoothly.

Zero reason games shouldn't generally run at 60fps. it's like we can't ever resist peeking behind the curtain at what complexity and superfluous detail might be coming in the future, and trying to get some of that now.

@mlt

Yeah, i actually chose not to get one at the time for the reasons you say. well, that weighed against the fact i already had an SP, and finite teenager money.

anyway I still have my SP, still works! but I'd still like to have a Micro 😄👍

btw BEAUTIFUL gbmicro, but the decision to label the buttons twice with different fonts and different cases really bugs me and it always has!

i wish i had one... 😢

these games are awesome! the artstyle games on Wii and Electroplankton on DS were also awesome, and I feel like they get mentioned even less than these games somehow.

@the_beaver

I've been "boycotting" their games since FFXIII and things have only gotten worse 😂✌️

ouch. I don't think I've ever even thought twice about an RPG after someone said the story was "just alright."

I chose Japan, but then I noticed the NA guy looks like a young Martin Landau and I wish to change my vote.

@DonnieTACO

I didn't know that! thanks, I will do that if I get around to playing this game ✌️

@mattitudemf

yeah! I actually have two issues, now that you mention it. One is the voice acting itself, and the other is the constant hints about what to do next, or just pointing out the existence of a door or chest.

for me, reading and figuring out things for myself is almost literally the entire game, with a top down RPG like this 😂 the rest is music/vibes, which are imo spoiled by constant quipping and vociferating.

@CammyUnofficial

OMG do you remember the Mario Advance games? every time you pick up a mushroom: "Just what I needed!" 🫠

I wasn't aware of the changes to LttP on GBA but I'm turned off just thinking about it lol 😅

@IronMan30

new FZERO = new Switch 2 for me! easy math.

other companies PLEASE take note!

first thing I do with most games is turn voices off, or if I can't do that I turn the slider all the way down, and if I can't do that I change the language to Japanese or Portuguese, and if I cant do that I probably don't play the game.

(I'm far more interested in this game now, incidentally. 🥳)

this has been on YouTube for 2 years.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkEHMZiVynBwXViZVCNW4qrCkaAQH0H0j&si=g9o1k8q3emJ1lKj7

Bananza has been there for 11 months.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3Ydt8g2VQ4Hrag6mehy1t9P3p2im57as&si=kZBvN-UW4af3jXya

@LeJuiceCup

did you read my comment or just the bit I quoted from someone else?

EDIT - or neither lol

@JR150

"It kills me how Sony can kill physical games and Microsoft can kill hundreds of jobs and some people still think Nintendo is the scum of the earth."

I think it's because many Nintendo fans don't really care about psx/xbox, so the comparison is meaningless.

Not that you were singling me out in any way (or asking lol) but the only standard I hold Nintendo to, personally, is the one they set themselves. 👍

(not that I consider them the scum of the earth!)

seems like only yesterday I downloaded this and played it once.

🎵 "memorieees..." 🎶

@Nintendontyouknow

I've got no reason to lie to myself about how I truly feel, when it comes to videogames.

Arguably I could just keep it to myself but we're all having fun, right? 😅👍

FWIW, Tetris 99 is a masterpiece, but I try not to get too attached to, or spend too much money on, anything that depends on a paid subscription. I paid enough for Tetris 99 (really NSO,) and I've moved on.