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it's almost like not being bathed in money leads Nintendo to take more risks and do more interesting things.

played this a bit, honestly found myself wishing it were just a straight remake of LttP. Traded it quickly which was a mistake in hindsight but in the moment I wasn't enjoying it and there were other games I wanted to try.

I also wish theyd have done the links awakening remake this way, instead of the "playskool" look they ended up going with.

under-promise and over-deliver, right? seems like the absolute right and normal thing to do.

i finally beat this game on SNES in highschool, c. 2003, after playing it semi regularly for at least 5 or 6 years. definitely one of the hardest games I've ever beaten without save states or codes.

needless to say I've been waiting a long time for a re release, and this is very disappointing.

@Switching

"I think all this talk about price kinda sours the good vibes around the game. Let the price be whatever it is and just buy and enjoy!"

LOL ok now we know you are trolling 😂👍 good show.

@gcunit

"I'm sticking with my pre-order, because I love Yoshi games, and will judge for myself whether the price paid turns out to be regretted or not. If it burns me, I shall very likely withdraw my custom from many new games until I can pick them up used or heavily discounted in a few years time. My collection will keep me more than busy and I'm not particularly keen on the idea of getting gouged as a reward for all my support over the past 10 years."

replace "Yoshi" with "Zelda" and youve got exactly my perspective approaching the release of Tears at $70.

Yada yada, I haven't bought a Nintendo game since. 😕

@LastFootnote

that makes sense. maybe you are right! hope so 👍

@LastFootnote

"Free-to-start is fine IF buying the full game is a one-time cost. If it’s a subscription or filled with microtransactions (or both), then yeah it sucks."

i agree, but i wish they'd just say "game costs $X, and there's a free demo" if that was the case. "free to start" definitely makes me think it's not a straight forward purchase.

@RetroBox

"If this type of thing makes you angry, you will have a difficult time dealing with everyday life situations as you get older."

yet, here they are, blindly defending a videogame whose defining feature is that you can't die.

what's the polar opposite of "irony?"

EDIT - i think it might be "destiny"

@jaypakavelya

"low scores lately, I wonder why ... ?"

occam's razor has the answer.

"If you can't lose, why play?" is a question to which this game apparently doesn't have the answer.

@OrtadragoonX

I've been meaning to give Burnout Paradise (and the Burnout series in general) another chance, I'm glad you brought it up!

I know what you mean about the "tetrislike" effect with GX, well said! I have ADHD and when I play GX (and Ikaruga, and Tetris... and I'm sure others) I get in a sort of flow state that I find very soothing. it's the rare time I ever feel that all my faculties are actually lined up and working on one task.

@Durians

Sad but true!

Hard to imagine that this makes Square enough money to be worthwhile, yet Nintendo can't be bothered to make the real thing.

Point of information: Suika Shapes on Steam is basic (in presentation,) cheap and excellent. 👍

IDK about this 3D take but we'll see! I try to support NAMCO.

"The Classic Zelda Formula Is In Safe Hands With 'The Adventures Of Elliot'"

interesting way to say "this game rips off that game."

but you know the age old cliche: "Square does what Ninten-did" 😂👍

@gcunit

no I'm just saying sales were even more impressive in the Wii era. Nintendo giving up on handheld gaming in favor of the hybrid approach was a risk, and that's the risk. 👍

@OpheliaDynamight

well, I haven't run the math on PS2 + PSP sales, but... maybe?

my point was more to compare Nintendo vs Nintendo. ✌️

Switch absorbed Nintendo's handheld side so it has to beat DS + Wii sales for true parity, imo.

255m give or take.

@KingMike

"they actually mocked their own infamously annoying commercial as a base for a later one."

that's like, logarithmic smugness.

@Kitchener

Douche? Touché!

@bigpale

yeah, it actually rotates the controls in the opposite of good direction. 😵‍💫

I don't recognize my favorite pub/dev of the PSX era. I personally think they were at their best when they focused primarily on one platform, be it SNES or Playstation.

PS if you don't like all the comments about game keycards, blame the company that created them not the fans that just want to buy and enjoy their games.

PPS - if you REALLY don't like them, start hitting the ignore button on every GKC complaint you see. before long, you will see none.

OR, accept that the other users are actual humans with their own priorities and motivations, and not simply objects for your online amusement.

@RadioHedgeFund

"It’s like when people complain about the Mario movies also having a paper thin story. They’re not adapting War and Peace here."

They have no excuse when they had the Paper Mario/SMRPG games as precedent. The popular idea that they couldn't have done better is sad for Nintendo and the fandom.

I would never buy anything from this company as I feel like I can't trust them.

FFS when did "sarcasm" become a selling point?

EDIT - for whatever it might be worth, I use JSAUX stuff for my Steamdeck and everything has been very high quality and extremely good for the price 👍 and no bull-*****

@WheresWaveRace

I completely agree! Fzero GX is one of the best looking games ever made. It is also one of the best "feeling" games. 👍 I'm always searching for another game like GX and it just basically never happens.

My personal "that's good enough" level is well under what my Steamdeck is capable of, so I'm in good shape then 👍

@Metazoxan

I remember rolling my eyes the first time I saw side by side screenshots of the same game on ps3 and ps4 😆 little did I know even Nintendo would eventually get there too.

I forgot that VR exists again.

Always happy for good VR games to become normal videogames. 👍
I got very sick the last time I used VR a few years ago, and I won't be using it again.

hard to imagine this is better than Gungeon but I'm excited to play, regardless!

(ps I wish there was a Gungeon "arcade" mode without the permadeath, and RNG.)

@KingMike

the hype leading up to the debut of Doug, Rugrats, and Ren and Stimpy was real.

Maybe in the next one JB will use an Amazon Echo.

I realized after I bought Link's Awakening on Switch that HD remakes are like when I saw The Pixies perform Doolittle, or when I saw Ween perform The Mollusk. Predictability is boring even when the thing itself is perfection.

PS an HD remake of Starfox 2 would be 10x as interesting and desirable as this imo.

this entire article is a better argument for a new Starfox game, than for this remake.

people are making a lot out of "thwarted," but can we take a moment to appreciate "cannot?"

"will not be thwarted" is just believing in yourself.

"cannot be thwarted" is something else entirely.

@Thomystic

I recall an "e" everything phase in between "me" and "i"

I've never had use for THE MY Nintendo Store but I much prefer "The Nintendo Store" so I support this change. 👍

I think there's a desire to feel "in" on the new console, which in my case conflicts with my lack of interest with the current games.

I have to remind myself that I didn't even get a Switch for the first 3 years, and that was like, fine. 🙂

The world would be a better place if every new Nintendo console had a Super Mario pack-in ♥️

@LastFootnote

You might be right but my suggestion is that idk why you wouldn't say the words "we have no plans" unless you did. 👍

@LastFootnote

the only "interesting" thing is that they didn't say,

"We have no plans for further price increases at this time."

@HalBailman

I have 100% all fzero games* (besides 99 of course but I don't count that one) and I think they are all three absolutely perfect! every track, every race is an absolute screamer 😂

Now that I think about it though, I agree though that X would benefit more than GX! But I'm still generally against remakes, especially of games I consider already perfect 😁

EDIT - *not the handheld ones either

@Krytture

I actually thought the same exact thing! its such a better idea, given the replayability of F zero vs StarFox.

@Anti-Matter

I really like your comments, gives this place a real "bustling town square" feeling 🙂

You're like a Majora's Mask NPC 😁

@HalBailman

I get what you mean! It does imply some degree of severity, and I think where we diverge is over that subjective term. In my mind, 10% all at once is a hike, because a gradual price increase would be, say, 1% each month over a span of 10 months.

Anyway! I'm always glad to talk about words 🤗 And, specifically the concept of word fatigue. I've come dangerously close to making a forum post on the topic many times, but I'm trying to be a little less "on brand" lately. failing today obvs, but lately yeah.

@jsty3105

Thanks for being down to explore, you obviously don't have to prove anything to me and I just enjoy kind of stress testing different ideas, including/especially my own 🙂👍

FWIW - I know the Machine doesnt replace the Deck, what I meant by "effectively" was that you cant buy a steamdeck right now, Valve isnt talking about the steam deck OR a Steamdeck 2 right now, and they ARE talking about an upcoming home console release in lieu of a handheld.

OTOH i agree that at this point the Machine won't be able to come in at an MSRP low enough to really be anything but a niche product, which is unfortunate because I want one but I'm not spending 700+. I feel very lucky to have gotten my Steamdeck when they were 320.00, right before they disappeared completely. ✌️

I would argue that the growth potential in the handheld space doesn't at all negate the growth potential that I can see in the "not outrageously priced home console" space. We are in an era of austerity and it seems that that is causing a fearfully conservative and unimaginative sort of group-think in the fandom (not pointing that at you, just a general observation,) but I truly dont believe that somehow nobody wants a ~299.99 dollar home console anymore.

@HalBailman

"Please, I'm tired of the word "hike". Not everything is a hike regarding prices. I don't regard approximately 10% in most territories as a "hike". "

I get word fatigue, too, and I don't always have a reason (everyone seems to be constructing "sentences" out of fragments, ending with the word "right?" right now. ever noticed that? also, the words "genuinely" and "quietly" are VERY overused at the moment.)

OTOH, a "10% price hike" is totally a thing. 👍 10% is not negligible. if you raise taxes 10% for example, that's a significant "hike" according to anybody.

@jsty3105

"largely I think it's a poor idea because developers would have to factor an additional SKU in their development (so touchscreen games are out of the question or touchscreen elements and there'd be like handheld mode, docked mode, and home console mode)."

I don't see why docked mode and "home console mode" would have to be different. also, SKUs are for them to worry about, we are consumers.

FWIW touchscreen mode was largely ignored by developers, even Nintendo AFAIK, even for games that would've greatly benefitted, to the extent that I believe most Switch gamers forgot about the feature entirely. It is now happening, as easily predicted, to the Switch 2's "mouse mode" (which I can't decide if I'm calling "side mousin'" or "mouse talkin'")

Switch Lite dropped the IR sensor and no one even noticed. Switch Lite also lacks two hand motion controls but who's counting.

"In a time when resources are scarce and production lines have more limited capacity - allocating time, marketing, development costs, and production costs to an SKU that's of limited appeal may not be the best use of time and money."

OK, then how about a poll? have they even tried to find out if people would be interested in a more traditional (and traditionally priced) simplified home console Nintendo? like the good ol days?

"The Switch Lite appeal is already proven. The appeal of a TV-bound Switch isn't proven outside of what people say in forums - and there's a huge difference between what people say they will buy and what they will actually buy."

this new attitude that Nintendo can't afford to take ANY risks really bums me out, tbh.

"Also, to some extent, handheld gaming is where companies are pumping money into now"

what? you mean the ASUS XBOX ROG ALLY X? or the steam deck which has been effectively replaced by the upcoming home/TV only version, the Steam Machine? Or the PS handheld that requires a running PS5 home console to operate?

@AI-Generation

"I never play on the go, I’m 100% docked only and won’t be the only one."

even if someone might enjoy the handheld mode from time to time, a ~300 dollar price point might be more important to them. they could buy four three TWO Nintendo games with the remainder!

@jsty3105

we agree, different people have different use cases. so why is a less expensive TV only Switch a "terrible idea," again? 🤔

to state the obvious, they wouldn't be pulling the handheld Switches off the market in this hypothetical.

translation: I hope we can get away with selling the same tech product at full or higher price for 9 years again. who can blame him?