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@GrailUK

my worst case scenario is they stuff it full of chatty voice acting and completely spoil the vibe. That's a red line for me, and seems really likely to happen imo.

@AussieMcBucket

"I'll bet we're getting both though."

in the fullness of time, this must be correct. I mean one would hope.

"And there's probably a decent chance that this is partly meant to hold us over until the next "new" one gets here."

You may be right, but announcing this when we haven't had a new Zelda game like Ocarina in like 15 years just isn't the move. I would be way more receptive of this game, say, four years into this cycle, after we've had plenty of original titles and sequels and this is in addition to that. ditto star fox.

or if they like, SUPER teased a new Zelda game, and then soon after announced this and even released this before the new Zelda, I think that'd even be better.

anyway if they want to "do Ocarina" again they could do something so much more interesting than a remake, a la Link Between Worlds. Or Majora, in a different way. my 2c.

I've been thinking of revisiting Ocarina again, either on my Xmas 1998 childhood copy and launch console, or on my Steamdeck because I obviously hate Nintendo and I want them to fail.

reading this article and comments made me really sad for this all time favorite, almost perfect game. in a lengthy era in which we have been begging and pleading for a new Zelda game with dungeons and logical narrative, they are working on messing with an established classic instead.

especially putting more "interesting" (i.e. boring/pointless) crap in the field. my god, are we trying to make prime 4 more like ocarina, or ocarina more like prime 4?

if im going to judge this game based on what theyve shown, it looks generic and awful. I wish theyd have shown more, honestly, because this is really bad.

@Wexter

"not defending the use of AI, but professional animators ***** that up all the time."

just go get the pedantics/semantics out of the way, animators get away with lots of errors that would not likely be tolerated in front facing illustrations such as this. (Liefeld notwithstanding 😂)

I'm aware of Liefeld 😂😂 but I'd counter for starters that if it was all that common in the world of professional art, Liefeld wouldnt be "Liefeld," would he?

I'd be extremely surprised if anyone reading this can provide an example this egregious, on professionally produced box art, from any time between say 2000-2020.

@jfp

very much agreed, I was just kind of allowing that my sample size is limited basically to this here website 😅👍

All I can tell from these comments is that right wing corporate propaganda is working, at least on Nintendo fans.

Nobody defending AI ever actually defends all angles or addresses all legitimate concerns. Ever.

@NerdyPaul

"Remember the whole AI thumb thing in a Nintendo trailer some months back? That turned out to be rubbish too"

different numbers of fingers on each hand is a mistake a five year old wouldn't make.

an astute five year old might even a
know how many fingers Donald Duck is supposed to have. 😂✌️

@AmplifyMJ

thanks for expanding on that. I actually think we can both be right on this one, or rather that two things can be true at the same time. ✌️

but, I do believe strongly that all gamers want to enjoy games! 👍 and we all have different ideas about what that even means, and what is enjoyable about games, and what might make a game un-enjoyable.

on the other hand, there are also people that are even on the internet, or following Nintendo per se for reasons other than just personal passion for the games (not us of course 😎) and I may be a bit slow to acknowledge that. so thanks for reminding me.

as far as being stung, I think tone is hard on the internet, and I can be kind of severe in my argumentation. My aim was to get a well reasoned retort and I got it! thanks my friend 😊

@AmplifyMJ

"Nobody wants to just enjoy anymore, we want to find a reason to ruin and boycott everything, and the media only amplifies the worst instead of celebrating and enjoying the best. Tiresome"

how dare you accuse other videogame fans of not wanting to enjoy games? it's so preposterous on its face that I don't believe you actually think that, frankly.

in truth, the corporations are ruining everything and we've simply had the gall to notice.

in my opinion, what's tiresome is the insistence that the only important thing is personal enjoyment when it comes to consuming media.

im convinced that if a company thought the only way to make a game was to dump 55 gallon drums of gasoline straight into local drinking water, people would be on here saying it's fine as long as the games are good.

@VeganH

"This is for 2 types of people. 1, the people who played the original and wanted a remake. And 2, the new generation of gamers who've never played the original. For the others, nintendo doesn't care about you."

yes, I am the "played ocarina many times and not interested in a remake" type, and I'm feeling the "doesn't care" hard from my canonical favorite company ever lately on many levels.

@Skunkfish

Thanks for asking! 😊

A new Zelda game that has dungeons and is not "open world" in the sense that it has a logical narrative and progression would be a good start.

But, if it has to be open world, "non linear," and for some reason dungeons are off the table, then something new that isn't another BOTW retread

Dreamworks presents Lemony of Snicket: A Chronology of Unfortunate Ocarinas

Thanks i hate it.

Nintendo remains stubborn over the issue, however, stating that it did not mislead customers and that paying the €35 million fine "does not constitute an admission of guilt and reflects only the amicable resolution of legal proceedings."

obv the important thing is that they've learned nothing.

"We've A Sneaky Feeling Nightdive's Latest Remaster Will Be Awesome"

is an opinion and has no business being a #NEWS headline.

That being said, I've always been interested in these games so maybe I'll get into this! 👍

@Strawblaze

personally, I enjoyed both MK8 and BOTW more on wii u, before I had a switch. for different reasons.

esp. mk8 though because the game was better before double weapons and that's an objective fact!

It's impossible for me not to think about how much more fun I'd be having just playing MK8 for the billionth time.

edit - to be fair, I could sling the same insult at probably 90% of things in life, or more.

I'm really glad for the people here that are having a blast with their Switch 2s! That's what it's all about, truly. 👍👍

Personally, Nintendo has lost its lustre for me and its a bit of a stretch to imagine the Switch 2 "killer app" that would really bring it back. I need a true "return to form" sequel for Zelda and/or Mario, in either 2D or 3D, or an out of the blue excellent Pilotwings, F-zero, or even Excite game, and in all honestly it's no longer a matter of "will they," but rather, "can they," even if they wanted to. 😕

Again, I'm certainly happy for the people that are into Pokopia, Tomodachi, and Yoshi, but we are far from the Nintendo that I loved for decades at this point. ✌️

This was the game over which collectathon mascot platformers jumped the shark.

personally but also that was the feeling at the time, IMO. ✌️

btw is it just me or is that some very weak cover art? 😕

"Knocked it out of the park" means you could not have done better.

8/10 means you could have.

@WeHaveKirbyAtHome

I hadnt considered that angle, but perhaps I didnt make it clear: I dont particularly care about the breakdown, but it just so happens that the breakdown is the only place on the chart one might see a platform mentioned, at all. does that make sense?

it seems normal and customary to have a column for the platform that the game exists on. to me, that is the relevant information. I dont actually care which platform a multiplatform game sold best on, personally. ✌️

these are the only industry wide game sales charts ive seen in my 3+ decades of following such that don't mention the platform for each game in the list. I can't imagine why you've chosen to do it this way, but it does make the chart very uninteresting to look at or follow week to week, at least for me personally.

just to point one out: mortal kombat X has appeared on the list, with no breakdown of platform split, not any mention of the many platforms it is on, at all.

android users really need to finally avail themselves of ZXtune✌️

@joey302

can you imagine wanting to be the guy or company with tons of the money but every time you buy another company, or announce a new feature, virtually the entire community including the people who buy your games, collectively groans and rolls their eyes?

"Atari should’ve bought that team instead of Epic lol"

so true. ✌️

@LinktotheFuture

fair enough! 😊👍

Anyway I'm thinking it's not the music licensing, personally! Wouldn't it be nice if they would just tell us, like people?

@LinktotheFuture @Atariboy

is there any reality that the ost was composed by Barry, and then "licensed" for use in the game? is that how it's usually done for osts that are ostensibly composed "for" the particular game in question? 🤔

@JimNorman

"While it wasn't confirmed at the time, the removal statement came the very same day that Epic Games announced it was laying off over 1,000 staff members — Aquiris was acquired by Epic back in 2023, let's not forget. So you can see how dots could be connected there."

Jim, would you mind connecting those dots for us? it seems your audience is not quite following, myself included ✌️

@Otimus

this is an interesting take. I think an experienced gamer can look at a game (or play a well designed demo) and determine "yes this game seems worth X amount" whether they put the money down themselves or not. but i take your point that its only "real" if it was your X amount and youve already laid it down and are playing your paid for copy.

For example, I thought generically that TOTK would be worth 70 bucks because "hell, its a ZELDA game!" and I certainly got my moneys worth out of BOTW, and from videos and screenshots it appeared to be more of the same. but then once id spent the money and started playing, the cold hard truth finally hit me and I wouldnt spend 20 dollars on that game, in retrospect.

im liking it, but i think ill be tuning it more towards zelda and less towards souls, and just sacrificing the little trophies or whatever. i dont need the stress, life is hard enough as it is when im not playing videogames.

@8th_Observer

"I don't see why price should factor into reviews"

the point of a review is to tell the reader whether the game is worth buying, so I don't see how the price could possibly not be one factor in that equation.

@HalBailman

I like prices that reflect the value of the item in question, as I see it. I am very skeptical of people on team Valve or team Nintendo, et al, accusing one company of the same practices they excuse "their" company for.

Generally, lower prices are good. As a consumer, I'm not obligated to think harder about it than that, period. I'm not an industry analyst, and I think people pretending to do a job that people actually get paid to do, just to justify spending more money on the same product are seriously misguided, regardless of which "horse" they like in the race.

The Steamdeck was the best value in gaming last year, when the LCD was 399 at full price. I love mine. If I lost it (heaven forbid,) would I spend ~1k to replace it? Hell no.

EDIT - 5000th comment 🍻

can't imagine what time has done to this game, given its tepid reception at the height of N64s (and DKs) (and 3D platformers') powers.

personally I played it for 5 or 10 minutes at a department store and that was enough for me, frankly.

OG DK, DK'94, and DKC1 will always be my favorite DK games, I suppose.

EDIT - random thought: imagine an OG DK made in the style of SMW, where mario controls like SMW mario and everything is designed/balanced around those mechanics. I think I might love that.

"It's far too early to say what's next for the series, of course"

It's far too early to be calling it a series, to be fair.

BTW the best value in gaming is an ARM-based Android handheld a la Odin Portal or Retroid 5, and there isn't a close second imo.

I feel like the luckiest kid in town, getting my Steamdeck LCD for 320 last October. I've been a hardcore Nintendo fan my whole life, until the Switch era, and Steamdeck is the rugged, "Nintendo tough," experimental yet conventional, logical, ergonomic, affordable, Dpad having console that I've been begging Nintendo to make for years. A modern GameBoy that was, and then wasn't.

Pour one out for the Steamdeck. I'll be clinging to mine for the foreseeable future, for better and worse. ✌️

@HalBailman

Now THAT'S a price "hike!" 😅

@the_beaver

"Now the Switch 2 is even more worth it."

it's exactly the same amount of "worth it" as it was yesterday.

@8th_Observer

"But Valve is so pro-consumer!!"

personally, I think they should open their veins, so the consumers can drink their blood.

they really should do a Tetris DS remake for Switch.

hey all you Nintendomaniacs: play Tetris DS if you can 👍

expecting the words "complete edition" to remain true in perpetuity is like expecting RE4 to still be GameCube exclusive because it says "only for" on the box.

remember: it's not a lie, if you believe it.

@RadioShadow

"Who plays Tetris with a keyboard?"

Peter Gibbons.

PS - have you ever tried it?

by far, the best tetris playing of my life was on a keyboard, playing Tetris Friends in browser on a PC ✌️

@ShadLink

sure, but what do they mean?

its kinda weird releasing something like this pretending it makes sense, and everyone reading just sort of going along. whats the point of copy-pasting it at all? is this really what the company intends to communicate with its western audience?

"- Implemented in accordance with AI learning policy guidelines."

what is this fragment supposed to mean?

additionally, why would they "adjust" the difficulty of Master mode? is it easier or harder? why would Switch players want to be challenged differently? What's a "title name" and how has it been changed "as a result?"

what's a "USB keyboard connection type?"

Imitation is the sincerest form of larceny.

"Round Up: 12 Switch 1 & 2 Games We Played At BitSummit 2026"

"These Vikings will likely make it to a Nintendo Switch someday, although nothing is officially confirmed quite yet."

it kind of bugs me that y'all won't mention the breadth of platforms most games are coming to (Nintendo Power style) but on the other hand will discuss games that havent been announced for a Nintendo platform as though they are.

@N00BiSH

"I wouldn't exactly call exploiting nostalgic bias risky or interesting"

its all relative 👍

how about don't piss on my childhood in the first place.