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@Haruki_NLI

fair enough. what even is perspective besides what facts you are aware of, vs not? 🤔

anyway I appreciate you filling me in. things are actually worse than I thought 😂👍

thank god for indies and CDPR or these would be really dark times for me indeed.

@Haruki_NLI

I couldn't care less what the other companies do, and 70 is still a bridge too far for me anyway, especially for a game like this, but I can appreciate your perspective 👍

@Haruki_NLI

Thanks! PS and XBOX haven't done anything i find interesting in decades now so I missed it.

I guess 70 for TOTK was only shocking in Nintendo world. Zelda was the one series I could imagine paying that much to play the new game, but TOTK cured me of that. Now, I will wait for a sale, always. 👍

@HalBailman

Thanks, Hal. It seems that Nintendo is spinning their own reality.

@electrolite77

"Yoshi is priced at what has become industry standard since 2020"

what games were 70 USD in 2020? it was widely believed that Nintendo was pushing the envelope with that price point for TOTK, which came out well after.

@TYRANACLES

you're very welcome 😊 I hope you enjoy! please come back and let us know, if you think of it. ✌️

fwiw I've been playing one puzzle a night on Mario's Picross for gameboy before going to sleep. generally, it's a bit hard to stay awake through the whole puzzle, but that's kind of the point. it's possibly the least stimulating videogame imaginable, in a good way. 😂 no graphics, no story, no action, no words. 👍

@jsty3105

ultimately, i think you are right. the prices are what they are, and people have different perspectives when it comes to what they "mean."

otoh, if the physical games are more expensive than the digital, then you pay a premium for the physical, because that's what that word means. even if the games were 40 digital and 50 physical, that is a 10 dollar premium for physical.

personally, there was a brief time that i would have paid 70 dollars for a Nintendo game, and that time started when I bought TOTK and ended soon after, when I played it. 70 for a Yoshi game is ludicrous, in my personal opinion. But you know what they say about opinions. ✌️

@jsty3105

a higher price is called a "premium." that's not really arguable.

to the other point, since we dont have a baseline for this game, I don't really see how you can rationalize that paying the TOTK price for this Yoshi game physically isn't "a premium" compared to the 60 dollar eShop price.

Respectfully, 60 dollars for a game is not suddenly a discount price just because Nintendo has (quite recently) normalized 70 dollars per game for their fans.

btw remember this? https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/02/nintendo-usd70-usd-wont-be-a-trend-games-priced-on-case-by-case-basis

very interesting, reading the comments, there.

"Nintendo does state that retailers can set their own prices for physical and digital games."

in the case of physical, is this really true? some big box store could've set a 59.99 or 64.99 price for TOTK, for example?

also who is the retailer that sets prices for digital games outside of the eShop?

@jsty3105

"making digital games cheaper doesn't suddenly make physical games the premium option"

i know what you are trying to say but i do think that it literally does.

also, "cheaper" compared to what? $70 was already a "premium" in another manner of speaking.

so they "lowered" this Yoshi game to the normal price that it shouldve already been, tops.

I can remember that just a couple years ago the apologists were saying that 70 for TOTK was hunky-dory because "it's Zelda."

get ready for 70 dollar eshop games and 80 dollar physical, and climbing.

this should be a late gen Switch 1 game, not a launch window Switch 2 exclusive.

the idea of not having a new (mainline) Mario game for your new console when it has been 8 years since the last one is just insane. Really, every Nintendo console should launch with a new Mario game packed in. I can't think of a more obvious easy win.

EDIT - thinking more on this... is SMW the ONLY time Nintendo launched a brand new console with a brand new mario game packed in on day one?

Gee, if only that had been a successful effort...

digital backups of digital and physical games is the only way to actually protect what you "own."

Astoundingly Alliterative Asymmetric Advisors strategist Amir Anvarzadeh

im glad to see from these comments that im not literally the only person on earth that dislikes RE4. I've since realized, I just dont like third person shooting games where the camera is fixed over the shoulder, and your character takes up the same 1/3 of the screen no matter what. I recently finally tried Mass Effect thinking I would love it, but quickly bounced for similar reasons.

(returned M.E., bought Cyberpunk 2077 on sale and I was happy as a clam all weekend 😃)

OTOH i also happen to like what everyone else calls "tank controls" which is actually just a way to describe normal player-centric movement (as opposed to "environment centric") with a fixed camera perspective. before analogue sticks, it was a way to offer fine 360° rotation/aiming without "snapping" to orthogonal directions and also to seperate rotating the character from walking forwards, something that is natural to people in 3D but somehow they cant handle in a fixed perspective.

to me "tank controls" would be a much better name for the way games like Battlezone, Katamari, or Virtual On play, but I'm in 4th stage digression mode, now. 😅 granpas tired.

EDIT - i just realized, a romhack for RE1 or 2 on PSX with "twin stick shooter" style controls might be awesome! not even sure if thats possible but in my mind it would work so well.

PS - i'm a "start at the beginning" guy meaning RE1 on psx. 👍 100%.

@TYRANACLES

It's one of the all time great puzzle games! about as basic as you could get (you could easily make picross puzzles with pencil and paper and it would be the same thing.)

essentially, the numbers tell you how many filled in squares are in each row or column, but not precisely where, and you use deduction to figure out where. the payoff is when you reach a tipping point and it becomes obvious where the remaining squares are on the board.

I would recommend trying a cheap version on sale, to see if you even like the puzzles, because this will be pretty much exactly the same but with Konami characters, and way more expensive. I'd say unless someone is a mega Konami fan and just cant WAIT to get their next Picross fix, 17.99 is way too high and this is a definite "wait for a sale." my 2 cents! ✌️

I love picross but 17.99 seems at least 8 bucks high to me.

@PessitheMystic

I'm usually "that guy," lol. I have to agree. also the use of "cool" to end multiple sentences in a four sentence blurb, not great.

PS I voted EU but agree with others, they all suck. At least the extreme closeup is a unique camera angle, vs just kind of a boring shot with no composition. I kinda think the NA art worked better in the squarish DC format, fwiw.

"...you can see so much of the real world within its fantasy setting, only with more swearing. A lot more swearing."

Tell me you don't work in construction, without telling me you don't work in construction. 😂✌️

@Aswannsong

"Nintendo is going to regret wasting 3gb of ram on something so minor."

is there a source for this info?

@HingryHuppo

I forgot about Rusty 💀

also wasnt there a pay to play crane game for collecting icons (or "stickers") or something on 3DS?

its all coming back to me...

I take back what I said about Mario Run 😅👍

@UpsideDownRowlet

you talk sense. I think monetizing every-little-thing is beyond a slippery slope and more like a free fall for Nintendo at this point, but we can say grace over the fact that it's remappable.

In memoriam: Nintendo, the last company to succumb to the temptations of fleecing customers over basic features, just because the internet.

Sorry, but I just learned today that the chat feature is paywalled and I'm still kinda in my feelings about it. I miss the old Nintendo, who were appreciably more abusive to pubs and devs than they were to their own users.

PS - I also do enjoy a satisfying "button + sound" combo 🥳

@HingryHuppo

Nintendo used to largely be my safe haven from these kinds of things. I clung to my Wii for dear life (😅) as I watched the Enshittofication take hold on the PSXBOX side from a safe distance.

TBH Mario Run was my first clue. once Nintendo "went mobile" I knew there was no going back.

It really is the fact that a face button engages an online service dependant, subscription based feature. just tasteless!

@coolioam

yes, every kid should have things like (commonly affordably to everyone) wood blocks. 👍 but Nintendo is also making literally tablet apps and movies for babies now, so I don't really think that logic holds water when we are talking about their intentions and motivations towards your children.

@HingryHuppo

one assumes that if a non subscriber presses the dedicated face button, they are taken straight to a credit card form on the eShop.

it's a pay Nintendo money button 😂

I returned a bunch of recent disappointments and bought Cyberpunk 2077 for 20usd and Record of Lodoss War: Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth (which used to seem like a long title, amirite?) for 8usd on Steamdeck.

My god, Cyberpunk is everything they said it would be! I normally dislike questy openworldy games where you get text messages and use google maps in traffic but this one is so compelling somehow! its just perfectly executed, and I'm already very into the story and the intrigue. I can't wait to get back into it when I'm done writing this comment 😂

Lodoss is very cool, and it's the first SOTN like I've ever played that wasnt immediately underwhelming in some way, so I'm pretty excited to get more into that one as well! gorgeous pixel art, truly!

Bad @N00BiSH ! Shoo!

PS - 😊✌️jk

PPS - i just now saw your prior comment, using the word "heinous" 😂

"the big N wants to instil brand awareness and loyalty at a young age"

the very concept is heinous, actually.

speaking as someone who started playing SMB at 4 and has been invested in the company personally ever since, I'm glad my sense of "loyalty at a young age" was based on quality of the games and desire for a challenge, rather than a cynical attempt to brainwash children with overpriced licensed junk.

Bad Nintendo! Shoo!

I simply woodn't.

@batmanbud2

Could be, though it's only natural when it's widely considered a) the best in the series, b) essentially the game that arguably set the "metroidvania" template for all time (for better or worse) and c) the only full fat, home console Castlevania game of type to ever be released, with no direct followup.

Anyway, in this case I was critiquing the writing, not the content. I'm personally fine with comparing games to SOTN, or not. 👍

PS - "Castlevania is Castlevania."

I really don't think this is true, when there have been sequels and spinoffs in many genres, across many console generations, in 2d and 3d, and of wildly varying quality ✌️

@ViewtifulCool

I'm 40.

Not exactly a whipper snapper, yet 10 years is fully 1/4 of my entire life. Or, half my adult life. it's a decade, my friend. did you ever hear someone waxing nostalgic about the 80s, in the 90s? There were whole movies about it and everything 😆

Obv this couldnt be more trivial or subjective, but assuming someone is a wee babe for calling 10 years "back in the day" just kinda took me off guard 😂✌️

PS -
"and now you're 14? well done.

nah. how old are you?"

user gave you every clue you need to figure out their age, easily.

uhh, SPOILERS?

"You see, V isn’t alone. Lodged in their synapses they also have the personality of a long-dead terrorist and rockerboy Johnny Silverhand, breathtakingly realised by Keanu Reeves. Silverhand is slowly taking over V’s mind and body, but even he’s not entirely happy about it."

I just started playing this masterpiece, and 2 or 3 hours into the story this still hasn't been divulged. Unacceptable and unnecessary for the purposes of review, seriously.

My fault i suppose for risking it but this seems out of line for a review. IMO they really should be spoiler free.

EDIT - i got to the part with Johnny yesterday. the spoiler completely ruined those few scenes but now that I'm past it the "real" game has begun. What a great game!! 😍

"Following Circle of the Moon and Harmony of Dissonance — both of which fell short of hitting the same highs of Symphony of the Night — Koji Igarashi and his team returned to the Game Boy Advance with Aria of Sorrow, a game which many fans consider to be the second best 'Igavania' in the franchise."

So, it also fell short.

@eSocrates

I have had this same thought when using two handled N64 controllers. two Rs makes way more sense than two Zs. 👍

@HalBailman

"While the N64 stick was technically "digital" in design, in function it was truly analogue. That was the big selling point, notably, controlling Mario from creeping to running. Readers might be confused by this digital reference as though it's digital in function. "

I was indeed confused by this verbiage.

are all "analog" controls not essentially "digital?" 🤔 analog in the sense that it is not simply "on or off," but digital in the sense that they operate with ones and zeroes.

@HalBailman

i haven't actually tried it yet, but i have a blue retro dongle for n64 that I fully expect will work with my 8bitdo64 controller ✌️

@Axl_abe

so, you can do it straight from the controller?

huzzah! 🥳

does it remember your settings or do you have to do that every time?

My only other wish is that the Dpad and stick were swapped. What can I say, I'm sick!

@Axl_abe

if it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't be talking about workarounds. 👍

EDIT - it appears that you can remap using the "ultimate software," is that how you are doing it? are the settings persistent? if so, you have a point.

regardless, id rather the right trigger be "R" by default, but yeah I'm happy to meet you halfway on this one ✌️

@ViewtifulCool

cmon bruv. "back in the day"!?

that's 10 years ago.

how old are you!?

since when is 10 years not sufficiently "back in the day?"

the SNES and PS2 launches had 10 years between them.

@Drnsnsr

put another way, "no might, no rights" 🙄

@lifer

yeah, IIRC they republish and amend old reviews for NSO games, for example. they'll even have a statement at the top, something like "this is a repost of our 2015 review for Wii U Virtual Console. We have amended it for such n such reasons, to reflect yada yada whatever.

OTOH, I think Ollie and others have a good point: release it right the first time if you want a good review. 👍

@jsty3105

I see the term "anti consumer" used all the time on here, and usually it's not really justified, as you say.

What I will say is this: I've been using the other guy's hybrid handheld system, and comparatively it has been such a consumer friendly experience that it has only put some of the BS we put up with on Switch in even heavier relief.

for example: I had a bad run of game purchases recently, like 4 games in a row that I didnt really like and wished I hadnt spent the money. I requested refunds on all four, and got my money back the very next morning! one of them was even a week beyond the return window (which is two weeks or two hours of gameplay, whichever comes first)

AFAIK, there are zero returns on Switch eshop, for any reason (plz correct me if I'm wrong,) and you can't even "disown" games you regret purchasing without refund. you cant even take demos off your "redownload" list!

another example is that the USB C port on Switch is nerfed. I'm kind of a luddite so I didnt realize it before, but here I am hooking up portable monitors, usb multitaps, whatever dock I want, whatever power supply i want and generally any laptop accessory ive tried has "just worked" with my new setup. not to mention, I can easily open it up, replace the internal storage, upgrade the battery if I wanted to, etc etc.

anyway, point being that if they arent ANTI consumer, they certainly are less consumer friendly than some of their competition ✌️

@UltimateOtaku91

I have plenty of issues with Nintendo's business practices, but I actually agree with you about this one for the most part. More accurately, I can see both sides of this one.

but yeah, I remember when the first games came out, the idea was you picked one and maybe your friend picked the other. Completionism didn't feel so compulsory in gaming yet, to me (though the slogan "gotta catch em all" was certainly suggesting it!)

I think it can be both: Nintendo's intentions were that people would collaborate to catch em all, but they dont mind the extra money from the double dippers either, and they arent going to stop it now 👍

@jsty3105

you're probably right. btw I was indeed thinking of the recent 20 dollar GBA Pokemon ROMs announcement, it seems you've read my mind 😅👍

I have definitely seen the argument made that the two color/cart model of pokemon is "anti consumer," and while I find that language possibly a bit hyperbolic, I do think they have at least a bit of a point. "Gotta catch em all" is pretty close to "gotta buy two copies," depending on your situation.

Anyway I don't know why I do this to myself! trying to keep things interesting around here. thanks for your thoughtful reply as always ✌️

@hanzel

George is gettin upset!

(im not upset fwiw ✌️ i do have a runny nose today though)

@Oldstalk

I would indeed hate it! 😅👍

...but somehow 10 fans would be here, calculating the MSRP of SMB on NES with inflation, telling me that I'm entitled for saying 99c for a higher jump is bad faith game design.

@TensuraFan7

appreciate the support, lol. the apologia is off the chain around here!