At the start of this month, it was discovered Microsoft would be discussing its plans to make Xbox Live compatible with mobile platforms and the Nintendo Switch at this year's Game Developers Conference.
Now, in today's update, Direct-Feed Games – known for its strong track record when it comes to rumours – apparently has some big news to share. After contacting several sources, it can allegedly confirm Microsoft and Nintendo are working together, with more details about this partnership expected to be revealed later on in 2019.
The source of this rumour goes onto explain how one of the deals will see Microsoft publish "more software" on the Switch. In addition to this, it will publish at least "one high profile Xbox One indie exclusive" on the hybrid platform. This game is believed to be the 2015 release, Ori and the Blind Forest.
Microsoft is also expected to release an Xbox App on the system, which would provide access to its Game Pass subscription service and support Project xCloud. The cloud feature would allow the Switch to run more powerful games via streaming technology.
What do you think about this latest rumour? Tell us down below.
[source gonintendo.com]
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Yes please! This is crazy if it ends up happening! Forza Horizon please
Btw this isn’t some random guy, he’s a well know insider and other people like eurogamer are backing up the rumor as well
As long as it is not streaming, I would love some Xbox ports on Switch.
If true, then please put Cuphead on Switch.
Does Microsoft have enough money to buyout Nintendo? If yes, this duo would be unstoppable.
This would be a dream come true, I can't afford to support more than one console per generation so I always miss out on the great non-tendo games out there.
@Dman10 MS already offered Nintendo insane amount of money during GameCube period.
If we don't get Cuphead out of this, then what's the point?
I'm immediately sceptical, but that Rainway app was basically offering the same sort of service, so I suppose it's not out of the realm of possiblity.
Unless... Microsoft plans to drop X-Box console support and merges their remaining game development team and partners with Nintendo. IS THIS THE REAL REASON REGGY LEFT US!?!?
Is it me, if this is true, does Reggie's exit seem like a coincidence?
I don't think this means we will see any Xbox Excusive on Switch, I think this simply means any GamePass games that are already on Switch could be downloaded if you have GamePass
This would actually be really good for me. Means I'd have to invest in a new Sim Card
Edit: Banjo for Smash also look more and more likely
It could be a way for Microsoft to finally break into the Japanese market, but this seems a weird movement for a console holder. Perhaps the rumors are true and the next Xbox is more about streaming than running native games. In that case it would make sense to branch out to other platforms.
I’d love to play Cuphead on Switch, too bad that it’s impossible to beat the tutorial stage.
...is Steve really inbound? For that matter, Ori or Banjo-Kazooie seem even more plausible!
I can see this happening
I'd be in no problem. A chance to play Ori on Switch. I'll pre-order right now. Yes please.
If Microsoft is going to bring xCloud to all mobile devices, they may as well bring it to the Switch too.
While the Xbox hardware business will likely start eroding into irrelevance, the subscription revenue is going to be massive. Smart moves by Microsoft as they focus less on competing with PlayStation and more on generating growth from the massive untapped mobile + Switch markets.
This would basically turn X1/Switch into a PS4/Vita combo, with synergy between them attracting sales between the fanbases.
As far as native games, Ori and the Blind Forest would be a massive win for Nintendo and the fans. It’s the best game on the Xbox and even takes Nintendo to task in game design. It’s absolutely phenomenal- one of the best metroidvanias ever created.
would be neat, if true.
@Dman10 for perspective Microsoft is valued at around 800 billion dollars while Nintendo is around 40 billion
Ori, Cuphead, and Banjo pleeeease!
@Dman10 More than enough, but I doubt they would sell it.
@Dman10 Microsoft’s track record with its first party game studios is pretty abysmal. Bungie, Lionhead etc etc not to mention issues/tensions working with Epic on Gears of War etc. Honestly I wouldn’t want to see a Nintendo + Microsoft merger any time soon until we’ve had time to see how Mss efforts to boost its first party portfolio has played out.
As an Xbox and Switch owner I also find both systems hit very different segments of the market and I’m not sure they can be effectively merged.
For now a partnership where select games or services cross platforms honestly seems to me to be the best approach. One can’t ignore the fact that MS has had absolutely zero appeal in Nintendo’s home market and there’s likely be some catastrophic implications to the company culture as a result should they merge.
Y'all have a bigger chance of MS adding 360 BC to the Switch than Nintendo releasing GameCube VC on the Switch.
...and the Switch doesn't even have a disc drive, MS finds a way.
I'd be shocked if this happened. But if it could open the door to classic Rare titles getting onto Switch, and in crazy la-la land, the older Halo titles, I'd be totally okay with it. lol
I wonder if Microsoft is toying with the idea of shifting its focus away from dedicated game consoles toward being more of a service/publisher?
@Heavyarms55 Their shift from products to services has been better than expected. I wouldn't be surprised if they shift their gaming department as well.
My God, this article is so poorly worded I struggled to get to the end! Does no one look through these posts BEFORE they go up or did someone have the day off?
Reggie was left. I don't think Phil Spencer save us.
Ori, Cuphead, and Rare games on the eShop? Yes please!
At this point Microsoft is better to just killed the Xbox One and join the Switch if this rumor is true.
If this is true it would be awesome!!! It would be nice to be able to play games like Tomb Raider, Oblivion and KotoR on the go on the Switch.
If I could play Gears of War on switch, that would be so incredibly exciting!
@Heavyarms55 I was just gonna say I hope (if true) leads to Nintendo having access to those Rare properties. Would love to see what they can do with a new Banjo or Perfect Dark
Edit: though I would imagine Perfect Dark might conflict with MP 4. So probably wouldn’t happen
I still cannot digest the words of "Xbox Live comes to Nintendo Switch"
What was that mean?
some of you folks are getting too excited about this thinking your going to be playing the games via download, that wont be the case if this ends up being true.
i cant speak for the infrastructure of the internet but i can guarantee you everyone does not have unlimited data
Crossing my fingers for Ori. Would be a day one purchase — make that a day one preorder purchase.
Could be very cool if true, and would likely be a very profitable move for both Nintendo and Microsoft.
This will either be really good or really bad.
On one hand, its pretty cool for those that don't own an XBONE. A selection of titles for a monthly fee including XBONE exclusives. Sure its streaming but if you can't afford an XBONE or can't justify buying one for few exclusives then it should make a tempting choice, especially on months when they offer a month for £1.
On the other hand, is there really much point in Microsoft even making a new console soon? Sure its better to have a system with physical media but if the streaming turns out to be great, then it might be much less reason for many to put down whatever the next XBOX costs (A lot.)....
What's the likelihood of this allowing us to play Kingdom Hearts III on the Switch?
Goldeneye. I’ve been saying it all week.
https://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/a805714/phil-spencer-responds-about-goldeneye-007-hd-remake/
This has got to be the rumored cancelled game being revived
I wouldn’t mind seeing rare replay on the switch, but I’m not convinced this is a thing. We’ll see.
People seem to forget MS is a software company first. While this is a little wild, it could signal MS is willing to partially forgo (is that a thing?) selling hardware to beat Sony. This would be an interesting and unexpected turn of events, MS putting software on a Nintendo device.
I felt high reading this tbh like whaaaaaa
If you have to buy it separately, I wouldn't do it. I'd just keep Game Pass on my 1X. However, if you buy it once and you can have Game Pass on both your 1X and Switch ....I'd down. Forza, Cuphead, Halo and a few others come to mind.
@Heavyarms55 That's exactly what they're doing. Microsoft is a services and cloud computing company, and Xbox will be no different. They want to get their services available to as many people as possible, so bringing that stuff to Switch is natural.
They'll still make Xbox consoles, but those are just a means of entry to the Xbox ecosystem/platform and their services alongside PC, Switch, and Mobile.
I echo everyone on here that Ori would be a great game on the Switch. Rare Games coming home, and Banjo in Smash. This may be the mic drop at E3.
@retro_player_22 I am kinda thinking the same thing. Not sure what to think, but there has to be longer term implications.....I thought MSFT was already designing/planning a successor to this generation. Maybe the plan for hardware is to focus on high end console users and then tap into the (more) casual market with subscription by proxy through the Switch. This would be perfect for me. I would spend $20 a month if the content was right...
Assuming it works well on Switch, this would be pretty cool if it turns out to be true. I don't have an Xbox One (I'm a Nintendo and PC/Steam guy) and I don't see myself buying it for like one or two exclusive games I'd be willing to play. Plus Ori and Cuphead are on Steam and I have them there.
@kraventhehunter1 Goldeneye’s rights issues stretch well beyond Nintendo and MS. It also spans into the rights to distribute Bond gaming titles having changed hands not to mention potentially messy issues with film studios. The two companies getting along and partnering up only goes a small way to getting a Goldeneye re-release, especially if it’s a remaster people probably want (and if not you can just emulate it anyway).
As some people already pointed out - Microsoft is about software and subscription model business. Their only real hardware now is Xbox and Surface now that their phone business tanked. I could see them continuing to sell Xbox, but fully support all devices with software. The only thing that makes the Nintendo news unique is that they might be ok with the arrangement whereas Sony is not going to allow it most likely unless management changes. Microsoft already provides software to tablet competitors and even provided software to phone competitors back when they still had Windows Phone on the market.
Good, now bring Killer instinct and all the other "RARE" games back home where they belong
@IceClimbers I have to wonder what point there would be to buying a dedicated Xbox if they made their services available on other platforms. A lot of money goes into the R&D for making a new console, but why would you buy an Xbox that is just an Xbox if you could buy a Switch and get Xbox games and Switch games? Or a PC and get PC games and Xbox games?
Wait, so could Cuphead come to Switch?! That would be awesome! Could Red Dead, Halo, and Forza Horizon come to play in Nintendoland too? This could be very interesting. Wouldn't Microsoft want Mario and Link to come over and play on Xbox 1 though?
As an Xbox owner I'd be more than up for this, even more so if I could stream directly from my Xbox to the Switch turning it into some sort of Wii U hybrid.
@carlos82 WLAN streaming would be amazing!
Rare replay, cuphead, gimme some triple big boy titles.the new Crackdown , sea of thieves, dead rising 4. This is a dream but pls
This is amazing news.
ugh keep microsoft out of my nintendo
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!! That would be unbelievable!
Hopefully, everyone realizes that this is just the beginning of a singular streaming-based gaming future. I'm not excited. But, I'll take Xbox system achievements for Switch games please.
Until more of these rumors start coming true, I can’t help but roll my eyes at them. It would be awesome, yes, but I really don’t see this one happening. If I’m wrong, I’ll totally eat my words.
@heavyarms55 The same reason people buy a Surface Pro even though they can get the same software on other devices. You are paying for a premium hardware experience. When someone buys an Xbox One X they are paying for the most powerful console. Even the Xbox One S provides some enhancements over other similar consoles although not as powerful as the PS4 competition. Xbox and Switch are providing novel and unique experiences. It makes you wonder why so many people have flocked to the PS4 even though it doesn’t bring much to the table.
With Sony skipping this years E3, it could end up being a Nintendo and Microsoft love-in. Ori, Cuphead, Rare Replay, cross platform Goldeneye. How about a new cross platform Diddy Kong Racing?
@JaxonH Ori and the Blind Forest
As much as I dislike 2D platformers and really hate hard games I finished Ori. It almost killed me 3x but I finished it. And I swore I'd never play another 2D platformer ever gain, then they announced Ori 2. It was crazy hard those 3 places I died often, you can probably figure out where, and they may be too quick for streaming, but sure, for $10 for 1 month of Gamepass I'd give it a try.
I think this is possible. MS has nothing to lose, Xbox sales in Japan are proof of that, and they've NEVER had a gaming portable handheld, and Nintneod has nothing to lose as MS is probably willing to pay them half the money just to have Gamepass on Switch. I mean Nintnedo would be stupid to pay for it, Switch doesn't need it, but even at break even I think it's a fair deal.
I'm nto a big fan of streaming myself - PS Now never worked well for me - but MS is big on it, Xcloud or whatever they call it. (xCloud, Xcloud, bite me)
I'll leave this here for everyone, it's an interesting read from last October.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/8/17950878/microsoft-xcloud-game-streaming-xbox-games-features
This is interesting, and I think it's true, but I gotta go to bed.
I wonder if you'll have to buy an X1 controller? Or pay for Live on top on GamePass? I really don't see a conflict between MS and Ntinedo. If MS were to buy Nintnedo I'm done though.
@Desrever
microsoft is going more agnostic. they'll still have an xbox but all games will be pc/xbox and streaming.
they see more money in that then trying to keep a closed ecosystem and i think they're right.
@rjejr Well from what I have been reading there have been major breakthroughs in streaming tech and on a 5G wireless network you will be pleasantly surprised.
On a side note they just had XBOX gold and Game Pass on for 2 months for 2$ each! It was a great deal and the first time you sign up for game pass the first month is 1$ currently.
I won’t get too excited here as this is just a rumor, however if even remotely true and we got a few of the smaller XBONE games on switch would be incredible.
Just fable pleeeease
i think i'm ok with this because then it'll allow me to play with people on my friend list, so go ahead let's get this going
Pushsquare - Xbox has no games
Nintendolife - look at all of these Xbox games we might get
😂😂😂
Ps. I'm firmly in the camp of Xbox has plenty of games
@JohnBlackstar Games games and more games that's what the PS4 brings. Even with the multiplatform games playing better on the Xbox One X the PS4 is the vastly superior console because of it's exclusives. I can't even think of any Xbox One title that could be considered GOTY. While both Nintendo and Sony pump out several titles that are up for GOTY. Power isn't everything and Microsoft screwed up by releasing the Xbox One X when their focus should have been on games.
I usually prefer windows over every other operating system out there. I also mostly had Nintendo and Microsoft consoles, so a merger wouldn't really bother me. Unless Microsoft treats Nintendo like they did Rare, then I will be 100% against it.
I'm not sure I like this. I could be reading too much into it but it seems like another step towards MS dropping mostly out of the console race. With Nintendo also not all-in on home consoles that leaves just Sony. PlayStation is my preferred brand but unchallenged Sony isn't someting I ever want to see return. There was a small sample of that in 2006 and it was terrible.
@carlos82
Outside of Forza Horizon there's really nothing on Xbox that can't be played on PlayStation as well. I do think in terms of exclusives Xbox faltered, big time, this gen. And I was a big fan of the 360. I was hoping MS would get things back on track next-gen but it's looking more and more like the company wants to get Xbox on everything (even PlayStation which is why I think they pressure Sony in the media regarding cross-play). There's good and bad that goes with this. Good is more access to more games for everybody, and it would be easier on my wallet. Bad because it's one less competitor in the market.
@canucksfan989 I own all 3 but have barely touched my Pro since I got the X as all multiplatform games look and run significantly better on it, only returning for exclusives. PS4 has definitely had a bit of a purple patch with the likes of Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man all being great games and Microsoft has struggled in that time but still had Gears of War 4 and Forza Horizon 4 in that time whilst Sea of Thieves is very good too. When you factor in the likes of Cuphead, Ori plus it's Gamepass giving you most of the above plus all of the Halo games, Gears of War series, Fable series, DOOM 2016, Hitman, the Tomb Raider Reboot Trilogy and many more. Then backwards compatibility giving you plenty of great 360 games and a few og Xbox games such as Panzer Dragoon Orta, Conkers Bad Fur Day remake and plenty of other Rare greats such as Banjo and Perfect Dark, many of which will now be in 4K.
Don't get me wrong the PS4 is a great console and I would never get rid of it but the Xbox isn't the barren wasteland many would have you believe
Battlefield on the go sounds nice
@Gamer83 it does seem more and more likely that traditional consoles are coming to an end and it does appear Microsoft are getting ready for that. I'll agree that in the past couple of years Sony has moved ahead in exclusives but before then I don't think there is that much difference but I will say if it wasn't for the X I likely wouldn't have an Xbox at all but it really is a fantastic piece of hardware. As I say above when you really look at it there is a lot available on the Xbox One even in terms of exclusive content and as someone who enjoys playing older games too it really is great.
As for the future I wouldn't count them out either after them buying some pretty significant studios last year. Whilst this year there'll probably be a new Gears game and we know that a new Battletoads is on the way, yeah I'm a bit sad and getting far too excited for that one 😆 Also Halo Infinite could be truly something special.
I like all of my consoles and want them all to do well
I'd love me some Killer Instinct on switch. Heck I'd love the SNES killer instinct on switch!
If all that comes out of this rumour mill is a port of Ori then that's a massive win. It's one of my favourite metroidvanias.
Collaborations like this are great but I would NEVER want to see Microsoft buy Nintendo out unless they're in really bad financial shape and it's a last resort to save their studios.
I just DON'T TRUST Microsoft with game studios, look at what they did to Rareware.
And most other Microsoft-owned developers haven't fared much better through the years either, unfortunately.
Maybe MS really has turned over a new leaf and they won't DESTROY Obsidian and other studios they've recently purchased, but that remains to be seen...
As an addendum to my previous comment, yes, I'm aware that Nintendo has had plenty of problems with their external 1st and 2nd party development studios through the years as well, but they've certainly had more success than Microsoft in that regard.
First, Nintendo, being Japanese to the bone, would never in a million years sell out to a foreign company, not happening.
Now, can I see this rumor being true? Yes. It makes sense given that Microsoft and Nintendo have been friendly towards each other in recent months.
And Cuphead on Switch, yes please!
Would be interested if it happens if only to play Forza horizon 4 but I can't see it happening
If there is anything to these rumours it suggests to me that Microsoft want their service on every device. That makes sense as their services are generally platform agnostic.
If streaming does become a thing, and everything suggests it will, then there is little point in owning a 3 streaming boxes. You dont have a netflix, amazon, hulu box as it would be a barrier to that all important monthy revenue.
The only thing that would interest me about Microsoft having anything to do with Nintendo again is getting classic Rare games back. Goldeneye anyone?
Yes please Gears of war series
@BumpkinRich
I do not think the internet is ready for streaming just yet.
I have seen players complain about digital only consoles because it would take the forever to download a game.
Still it would be wise to get ready for it by getting cross systems game stores/subscription in place.
It would also make a company more secure if a console flops
@Gamer83 MS are not dropping out of the hardware race.
@Slitth Unfortunately while streaming does not appeal to traditional gamers who want low latency control. It is very appealing to publishers who see it as a way of reaching a much much bigger audience.
I do hope that the rumours of mutiple boxes, one where you stream and one that contains hardware to play locally are true.
@Arshiya hell to the yeh!! That
Would be enough for me to be all in.
@The-Snarfer Oh god please no. I would destroy my switch out of frustration
I would be extremely down with this. I've been regularly playing Minecraft with an Xbone friend and at this point the more collaboration between Nintendo and Sony the better. I would very much like to be able to tie my Switch to a microsoft account and bring over some of the less resource-intensive games from the app store.
Finally, Minesweeper on the Switch!
Good move by Microsoft to monetise a great back catalogue. There’s talk of Microsoft/Sony consoles dying after the next generation, which I’m really not sure about, but this covers them both ways.
As a Nintendo fan who hasn’t played on an Xbox since the 360, I’m very excited by the possibilities. And if Diddy Kong Racing appears I’d be ecstatic!
Ori!!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting to play this game for so long!
Ori would only make sense given the plans to bring Rivals Of Aether to Switch.
Having an Xbox One as well, I wouldn't mind the Switch becoming a portable Xbox terminal.
@SimplyCinnamon53 Thats the problem with reporting on rumors. You cite eurogamer as backing this up. They haven't. They have speculated on what xbox live on Switch could mean in thr future.
Lots of people reporting a rumour does not make it more likely. Speculation is not fact.
I could finallly play Sea of Thevies?
Hmm I think this is likely going to happen. However it is mostly because of marketing why this make sense to me.
RARE classics could, if true, technically return to Nintendo platforms? Conker could get a handheld version of the re-loaded game, maybe even in its uncensored state? And Cuphead could see a release on Switch?
It seems to make sense from a business perspective, and I'm all for them working together instead of that ridiculous "console war" they used to have.
Sounds like a deal for Nintendo to get more titles on switch to reach a broader audience and for Nintendo to utilise Microsoft’s networking infrastructure
I would buy it just to play Banjo Kazooie
N64 mini inbound with MS/Rare on-board as a result for MS streaming on Switch.
You heard it here first.
You are all welcomed lol😁😁😁
I take it this would be a streaming service? I'd pay a subscription for it!
@Mordridakon they've always been friendly, from the beginning when MS wanted to buy Nintendo, from the selling of Rare to Diddy kong racing appearing on DS and with Minecraft on multiplatform.
There has never been any animosity towards each other.
@Dman10
Does Nintendo have enough money to buy out Microsoft?
Assuming the Xbox Game Pass runs well on Nintendo Switch, this could be VERY cool. Especially considering I have been a Xbox gamer since the 360. Halo on my Nintendo Switch? Gears of War? Maybe finally get Rare's epic older catalogue? Sign me up.
As with a lot of rumors lately, I'll believe it when I see it. If Xbox games are coming to Nintendo Switch, I would like to see Rare Replay on the system. Can't think of too many other exclusives on Xbox One that I want.
@JohnBlackstar
“It makes you wonder why so many people have flocked to the PS4 even though it doesn’t bring much to the table.”
Games. It brings literally hundreds of great games, several of which are stellar exclusives. A straightforward Console with a good power to price ratio and tons and tons of games. The magic formula.
@Dman10 If anything it'd be the other way around with Nintendo buying the X Box division. It's no secret Microsoft have never made much money out of it, and this generation they've been doing worse than in the past. Guess it could allow Nintendo access to demographics they sadly haven't had a lot of since the 90s.
@canucksfan989
Just to play devils advocate, I know driving games are niche these days but Forza Horizon 4 is as good as anything I’ve played this generation.
I'm playing Ori and the blind Forest right now on Xbox One, it's an awesome game.
But what most people are writing here, is day dreaming, I think.
But me too, I would also appreciate a partnership between MS and Big N.
I cannot believe there is so much love for this rumour, it would be such bad news for the industry.
If I was Reggie I would have left if I thought this was happening!
If you already purchased several og these xbox live games, would you have to Pay for them again or will your xbox live subscription allow you to download previously purchased xbox live games again on switch? That's the big question. Somehow I think we all know the answers and it's not good.
As an Xbox owner who has tasted of the ambrosial delights of Game Pass this is a fantastic concept. Hope it happens.
It will give more people including millions of Xbox owners more reasons to by Switches.
I've also been a happy Switch owner since Let's Go Pikachu came out. Nintendo's IP is so strong and game cards are so adorably collectible that Xbox on Switch would increase sales of both.
Hope this happens. My body is ready.
Good, now let's get goldeneye, perfect dark and dk racing on the switch
TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
Not so sure about this, would be a really odd move for Microsoft?
But at the same time, I'd throw money at being able to play Ori and some Halo on my Switch!
The games industry has been speculating that this would happen for about 6 months now.
It makes perfect sense. Microsoft is moving away from being hardware-centric to becoming services-centric.
That means it wants people to sign-up to Game Pass.
They want people to be able to access Xbox games on every single platform going. Including Switch.
This is not some take-over or merger. This is just Xbox turning into the 'Netflix of games' and putting its service onto as many hardware options as it possibly can. I asked Phil Spencer last year if he would put Game Pass on PS4/Switch and his answer was:
"When we think about the growth and potential for gaming at Microsoft, we always start with the player. There are more than two billion people on the planet playing video games — some on our console, others on PC, a lot of people on mobile. We'll continue to put those players at the centre of every decision we make — giving them access to the games they want to play, with the people and community they want to play with, on the device they choose."
In other words... watch this space
Most probably I'm just stupid but I don't see the benefit for Nintendo here. Don't they want to sell their own software?
Second: I'm all against streaming. More the Retail-Version-Buyer kind of guy.
Gosh I'm getting old.
@Coxula Look at it like a third-party publisher. It's just more games for Switch. More content for its audience.
So, after years of "Nintendo should drop hardware and become a third party", now the rumours are that Microsoft are bringing their games to Nintendo Switch? Well, that's an interesting turn of events! 🤣 The irony of it!
Xbox game pass is amazing. Having access to these games on switch would be superb
@dequesi Microsoft will still be a platform-holder... it's just their platform is a digital one. You still need to subscribe to their service to play these games.
Forza, Rare Replay, Sea of Thieves I’d happily play. However I don’t see Ninty allowing Xbox Live on their closed ecosystem. Unless there’s a massive incentive... but I can’t even dream one up that would benefit Ninty in the long term. This speculation is la la land stuff.
I’m hoping for Goldeneye HD release on Xbox and switch with cross play and a huge marketing push that basically says screw you sony (I have nothing personal against sony).
Seems like a smart play— convince people with Switch to play Xbox games and then eventually buy an Xbox. I rarely play Switch at home on the tv, so this appeals to me as someone who’d want a handheld and home console. Game Pass is great on Xbox btw— I have had it for over a week and I’ve played a ton of games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Late shift, Thomas Was Alone, Crackdown 3, etc
it it's original just give us phantasy online episode and 2. lol
@Heavyarms55 because there is still a market for people who want to play Xbox one games in 4K etc etc.
This is a win win for MS
I've been holding out on playing Ori and the Blind Forest on my PC in the hope that it would get released on the Switch. Yeah I know it will cost more but it'll be worth it to be able to play Ori while lying in bed.
This sounds like a complete waste of time money and resources.
What a day for jeuxvideo.com ! Alongside the specs leaks on Scarlett, jeuxvideo.com reveals the result of an investigation ( over 2 months ) into the upcoming Nintendo and Microsoft partnership. They reveal the following details :
EDIT : just to be clear the High profile Microsoft games - Halo, Gears or Forza - coming to the Switch is not confirmed, so that part is still a rumor.
so here is a recap :
Confirmed by jeuxvideo.com : meetings between Nintendo and Microsoft, Ori and the Blind Forest, Cuphead, Gamepass and X Cloud coming to the Switch
Rumors : Halo, Forza or Gears and Rare games coming to the Switch
Source : http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/10065...cient-des-jeux-xbox-debarquent-sur-switch.htm
Omg I feel so warm and fuzzy!
Sweet! Now I can play my Xbox One while watching T.V.
I mean, if they want to port over all their 360 games I won’t complain. Forza Horizon 1/2, the Gears games, several Halos, Fable would all be very welcome. As will Ori, Cuphead and Rare Replay.
@VHSGLITCH It is going to make both companies a ton of money, not sure how it is a waste,
Forza horizon would be nice but Forza Motorsport without analogue triggers is not appealing at all.
This isn't gonna happen. It would be bad for everyone involved. Not only would even less people buy the xbox then there are already, but people wouldn't buy games from the eshop if they're on game pass, leading to less sales for Nintendo. And even if Nintendo got a cut from people who used game pass on Switch, that would mean less money for Microsoft. There's just no way I see this happening.
@Scrummer there isn't a whole lot of crossover between what's on game pass and what's available on Switch as I have both. It also would allow both to make money they weren't making before for little to no investment as Microsoft is already working on streaming and Nintendo doesn't have access to all the games.
It makes a lot of sense when there's really nothing to lose.
Microsoft's long term success always came from the software business, they should simply leave the hardware business and focus on software, services, apps etc.
I MS gave up on Xbox hardware, they could put their software on both Sony's and Nintendo's systems and earn money everywhere.
Microsoft knows they aren't catching Sony in hardware sales, so they've decided to focus on subscriptions. If you're after as many subscribers as possible and you don't care about console sales, you want your service on as many platforms as can support it. This seems like a win-win. Microsoft gets tons of subscription revenue from people who otherwise wouldn't subscribe as they aren't going to buy an Xbox just for Game Pass. Nintendo gets access to a bunch of high-quality console games. The only problem is to stream this you'd need really good, reliable Internet.
It goes beyond that.
Be prepare to play Nintendo games on a new home system.
A home system extremely powerful provided by Microsoft.
And by the way : http://www.japanesenintendo.com/post/182976305629
Rare Replay would be a day one purchase if it comes to switch. I almost bought the 360 just for that one game.
@SoIDecidedTo I agree totally! Lucky you didn't buy an Xbox 360 for it though, it's only on Xbox One haha (the naming conventions are so silly)
I'd pay £7.99 a month if all gamepass titles are available to play /stream on my switch. We have cloud saving as well so that is all good. This could be the start of some something very special indeed
If somehow I could play fable 2 on my switch it would be a dream come true.
@ReaderRagfihs That's the PS4 in all its versions, and it's not a hidden feature at all!
@kobashi100 This could be really good if it turns out to be true! So far, just rumours, but juicy at least!
All I want from a Microsoft and Nintendo partnership, is to be able to play Goldeneye 007 on my Switch, that's it.
And it can happen now! Activision does no longer have the rights of the Bond games! I hope this happens!
Does this mean I can play the Perfect Dark remake on Switch?
@kraventhehunter1 I don't think the rights issue has stopped.
But if true, that game needs to be on Switch for historical reasons.
@beazlen1 "However I don’t see Ninty allowing Xbox Live on their closed ecosystem"
You're a year behind the curve, Minecraft on Switch requires an Xbox account if you want to cross-play with Xbox players. So that "closed ecosystem" has already been open for a year.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/02/the_platform-unifying_minecraft_bedrock_edition_looks_like_a_chip_off_the_old_block
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/04/playing_minecraft_on_nintendo_switch_will_soon_net_you_xbox_live_achievements
@Dman10 no but Nintendo could buy out xbox
@Timbojay hahah yeah. I was thinking that might be it but was too lazy to Google. Haha I beat conker the day I graduated University, it's always been a favorite of mine. And I wish they would make it so every time you go through a level of Jet Force Gemini you didn't have to save all the bears again. That was another favorite but that bear thing killed me. Literally
I won’t support it. I won’t be streaming a single byte with those horrid data caps in place on home Wi-fi. Scowling at you, Comcast, you monopolizing disgusting creature.
....however, gimme that Rare retro collection thing and the ability to play that without having to stream and we’ll have ourselves a deal.
@rjejr hmm I stand corrected. Ok I guess what I mean is there is no way Ninty will allow streaming of Xbox games on Switch. Just like how they shut down Rainway on Switch. There’s zero incentive to do so. However playing devils advocate with myself MS might be offering some serious cash to Ninty behind the scenes and in that case Ninty might consider it. They may even be striking up some deal for MS to run some shared ecosystem. We just don’t know
@Jokerwolf nah. It’s a waste and you know it.
@beazlen1 "will allow streaming of Xbox games on Switch"
Do you look at all the complete and total pure garbage they allow on the eShop week in and week out, pure garbage. Why not allow MS games as long as they're getting paid? I think if MS charges $9.99 for xCloud on Switch Nintnedo could get $1. If 1mil people sign up that's $1mil, per month, for Ntinedo, for minimal effort AND another selling point for Switch.
So does this mean Nintendo games will be on Xbox?
@Alto your home internet has data caps? That's horrible. With the push of mobile, I imagine this will become more common place. Truly terrible and a step back.
@SoIDecidedTo dark secret of mine; I've never had the pleasure of playing Jet Force Gemini! I loooove Conker though! I'd love to play the Banjo games on a Switch and most of all, if they could jerry-rig it so you can play 4 player perfect dark but each 1/4 of the screen is a Switch screen **drools everywhere**
@VHSGLITCH It is in no way a waste, this is a big money maker and will sell Nintendo Switch units as well for a bunch of people. Now we know why project rainway is not coming to switch.
@Jokerwolf "on a 5G wireless network"
But Switch doesn't have 5G, or 4G, just WiFi, so you still have to stream from your 5G device over WiFi to the Switch. Not a problem for me, I wired my dock, but I'm not sold on streaming over WiFi.
I owned an Xbox One for about 6 months and I think I had 3 $1 monthly trials of Live and 2 $1 monthly trials of Gamepass. MS isn't shy about trials. I think people, especially the Nintnedo only gamers, may be confusing Live, MS accounts, Gamepass and xCloud. While xCloud sounds like Gamepass it isn't the same thing, Gamepass lets you download games and xCloud is streaming. So while I think there is a lot of truth to a lot of these rumours, I don't think any of them are 100% accurate.
Of course all of this is irrelevant since game streaming does not work unless you live in Japan and have optical fibre straight to the mainframe...
@rjejr Oh I agree, but Game Pass itself is going to be able to utilize the xCloud to play games is what they have been working on so that no matter the device if it can handle a high speed internet connection it will be able to stream. This could just be account integration and we are all getting too excited but we will find out soon.
@Jokerwolf "but we will find out soon."
Well we will find out soon if it is indeed happening, but if it isn't they won't tell us that part, so we'll be left wondering whatever happened for the rest of our lives. 😉
I do think the meetings happened, those events are somewhat easy to keep track of, but we'll see if they actually push the button. xCloud and Gamepas will happen on mobile, that's assured. But of the MS guys only met w/ Nintendo in America, well those guys are all powerless, any big decisions like that will have to happen in Japan. And that could take awhile even if it is happening.
@rjejr It could end up just being a North American thing too just like Japan has services that never came here on past platforms, keep that in mind.
@rjejr 1 million a month is not that much and I think they’d lose more through loss of software sales because people are too busy playing whatever via GamePass or xCloud. I want it to happen, don’t get me wrong but I don’t think it will. Ninty are shrewd and conservative. Hence why Rainway on Switch quietly disappeared.
Not sure why people are comparing rainway to MS offering. Maybe Nintendo shut down rainway as they were always in talks with MS.
I think it's happening. There is way too much talk in the industry for this to be not true. I mean considering how much stuff is being said. Wouldn't MS and Nintendo shut this talk down.
Something is definitely happening between both companies.
Some sort of Xbox/Switch that isn't Game Pass or Live Gold would be awesome. Game Pass is mostly mainstream titles that you can find in a bargain bin for a fiver.
I’d love to see Microsoft help foot the bill for an ultra powerful Switch that could run current gen high end games without the need to stream them.
A man can dream.
@beazlen1 "Hence why Rainway on Switch quietly disappeared."
I don't know who was promoting Rainway on Switch, but I'm guessing it wasn't Microsoft, which already has Minecraft and Xbox accounts on the Switch. And like an extra billion $ laying around. And there are already a ton of bad games on the Switch - was just looking at all of the games on sale for 99c, plenty of those - so another 100 from Gamepass won't matter much. People are not going to stop buying Zelda and Mario games on Switch b/c they have Gamepass. And who cares about all of those $10 games on sale for $1. Or most of these. It's mostly a publicity stunt, but I think it's a publicity stunt that's a win-win. The only real downside would be how poorly streaming works on Switch over WiFi. Remember Nintendo saying you should only play SSBU on a wired connection?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/11/nintendo_really_wants_you_to_use_a_wired_connection_for_smash_bros_ultimate
Imagine how bad streaming would work. And why hasn't any one else brought that up?
@Jokerwolf "It could end up just being a North American"
Except the Xbox sells in NA, and the rest of us have PCs, so they don't really need it on the Switch in America. Heck we can't even get Netflix on the Switch. Might be the only way to get people to play those games in Japan though.
Xbox exclusives already aren't that exclusive. I might end up playing my Xbox even less now.
If it's true, I believe it's a smart move on both Microsoft's and Nintendo's behalf.
@KingdomHeartsFan You must be talking about extreme fanboys and/or trolls. I consider myself a Nintendo fan and don't feel that way. To argue that one console sucks and hate on it, is childish behaviour and if you're over 15 and do that, you're pathetic. And remember, it's not just extreme Nintendo fanboys that are this silly: we had a guy named Cobalt here not long ago. Do you recall his modus operandi?
@Jokerwolf it’s a waste. Go away.
I dont really understand what this means? Does it mean i can finally play killerinstinct on my switch or not? Does anyone know?
Tin hat on but rare replay sounds better than it actually turned out. Certainly some classics but games such as atic atac, sabre wolf - which I consider as being all time greats -in truth are pretty horrendous to play.
Incredible how nostalgia creates myths within your mind !1
@KingdomHeartsFan I think the ban hammer finally was dusted off and brought out.
@The-Chosen-one there will be an Xbox library available to stream on switch. Nobody knows which library will be available yet though.
@rjejr
It could make sense. Nintendo should just let MS run Switch Online as part of Xbox Live, taking a cut from the profits. Would be better than the barrel of waste we’ve got now and minimal effort for them.
In other words xbox is desperate to get on the Nintendo bandwagon. This comes a no surprise to any gamer of all strip. With Indie/Developers jumping Sony Censorship and poor xbox sales where do you think they are going to which platform to showcase their games and improve their bottom line.
@electrolite77 I doubt Online is going to improve xbox they are clear distant dead last. Online isn't what makes sales.
@electrolite77 "Nintendo should just let MS run Switch Online"
That was one of my first thoughts, MS has done a pretty good job w/ Live for what, like 10 years now? Nintendo needs a voice chat app on your phone.
And I still think the timing w/ Reggie leaving is suspect. Not sure it was THE determining factor, but maybe he was already thinking about it and this helped him decide.
Congrats on post #200, we don't get too many of those.
I never thought I would see this day. Nintendo and Microsoft collaborating to bring Xbox Live games to the Switch.
Microsoft has a way of destroying everything.
A crazy thought, but what if Microsoft somehow works out a deal to get NES and SNES games on the Xbox through this deal.
Think about it, Nintendo would get Microsoft Game pass which would be filled with games that have never been on Nintendo platforms before, while Microsoft would walk away with NES and SNES games that would be an app like what is on the Switch now.
Tie the NES/SNES games to Xbox Live which works across both the Xbox and Switch.
On top of which, Nintendo could finally get access to Rare games again.
I hope this offer goes through. I could see this benefitting both companies in the long run.
I would love for this to be true, as I feel like Nintendo lost something ever since Rare went to MS. If this means we can download Rare Replay, Killer Instinct, Sunset Overdrive, Cuphead, and State of Decay 2 (or at least the year one edition of the first game), then I am all for it. It's not like any of those games really pushed the Xbox One anyway, so porting them to Switch shouldn't be too difficult. The toughest one would be Sunset Overdrive and I could live without it if it means getting the Arcade Battletoads and NES Battletoads on my Switch. And yes, Banjo Kazooie please.
EDIT: @Quarth wait, is Cobalt not here anymore?
Microsoft and Nintendo both realise that expanding services across multiple platforms stand to make profits on a level never seen. Console wars are dead as most people own multiple devices.
Single closed boxes are really no longer a completely viable option.
This is a really good idea.
@kobashi100
ah oke tnx!
@diwdiws
Whole microsoft price is not micrisoft gaming price.
The X-Box exclusives have been so bad that the only non-Indie game which is not on PC I would be interested in buying is Rare Replay. Really Microsoft has lost touch with this generation of gamers. Their most recent exclusive - Crackdown 3 - is also apparently pretty rubbish. I miss the original X-Box days when they acquired many a great exclusive.
Yeah, obviously taking this with a truckload of salt, but I wouldn't totally count it out. For one, MS is nowhere near as protective of their IPs/first party titles as Nintendo or Sony. Over the course of the 5+ year life cycle of the XB1, how many true exclusives are on the system? Not many considering even games like Forza can be played on PC.
I'm sure MS knows how many Nintendo gamers would love to play Rare Replay, Ori and Cuphead at the very least. I'd wager that those games would do way better on Switch. At the very least, I think MS should offer those games.
As for what MS would gain? Advertising Game Pass and the Xbox brand as a whole to the 30+ million(and growing) Switch userbase as MS releases their new hardware(codename Scarlett) would be a smart move to gain some leverage against the PS5.
@SwitchForce
The only bandwagon is streaming. It’s a mutually exclusive arrangement.
Microsoft gets access to millions of Nintendo users that can now subscribe to Game Pass, including the elusive japanese market. They continue their move of Xbox towards a service.
Nintendo (most certainly) gets revenue from Game Pass subs through Nintendo Switch. Nintendo also gets third party content that previously wouldn’t be able to run on Switch natively and hopefully interest from a market segment that isn’t an easy sell for them just now.
@carlos82
Halo was my favorite franchise when Bungie was developing the games. Under 343 it's been one mistake after another, I'm not expecting Infinite to reverse the downward trend though I'd love to be wrong.
Microsoft is trying to wiggle out of the console business and focus strictly on PC and other gadgets. That’s my blind guess.
@KingdomHeartsFan wow trolls must feel hurt to grab onto anything to justify their own censorship of themselves. They use lines like pedro when they are losing. You must not be a adult enough to be playing adult games. If you don't like the game don't play it - it's a pretty simple concept.
@Onion one needs to stop reading the Onion it's not smelling to good on you.
@Paulywally "Microsoft is trying to wiggle out of the console business and focus strictly on PC and other gadgets. That’s my blind guess."
Put this way their Windows O/S and Office and Office 365 are making more money for them then xbox could've ever dreamed of. Those two are billions dollar cash cow for them and the loose of xbox wouldn't hurt them either. Remember everyone wants to be Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office. Even Linux wants to look like Windows GUI and everyone imitates MS Office. For all the hatin MS software gets everyone wants them still.
if switch got xbox live + virtual console... omg. please happen!
I want to play the Rare Replay games, especially Jet Force Gemini and the Banjo games. So if this means that I can finally play them on a Nintendo console, I gladly welcome this 😊
@Timbojay I thought I wrote you back, but guess I didn't. Jet Force Gemini was one of my favorite games on the N64. If it wasn't for the stupid teddy bears to get the ending, I would say probably top 3 games. I remember seeing the concept art for it in a magazine, and then how they changed it to look more "Serious" but it is an amazing game if you ever get the chance to play!
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