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New York Times Critic Identifies Super Mario 3D World and Wii U as Highlights of the Season

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

"The Wii U is also the only new console with a video game worth playing"

Yesterday wasn't necessarily full of happy coverage for the Wii U, such as the grisly news that the Xbox One is already close to passing the Wii U's lifetime-to-date sales in the UK. After plenty of happy Super Mario 3D World vibes, there's been some renewed caution and doubt over its power to lead a Wii U revival in the face of strong launch sales for its latest competitors.

And so, to show that there is still positivity out in the gaming aether and within the mainstream press, we'll point you to this rather positive piece posted in the New York Times, which comes with the tagline "Super Mario 3D World Could Make the Wii U Popular".

It's actually a balanced piece that does highlight issues and concerns for the Wii U — it mentions poor sales to date and a games library lacking some major and critically acclaimed multi-platform releases — yet ultimately makes the point that, against the launch libraries of the PS4 and Xbox One, the writer's personal view is that the Wii U has the season's one must have game.

But the Wii U is also the only new console with a video game worth playing. Super Mario 3D World, which went on sale Friday, is the best Mario game in years. It’s not just the best game for the Wii U, it’s the most entertaining game that has been released this fall for any system. (To a calendar pedant, Grand Theft Auto V went on sale in the summer.)

...One great game won’t save a console. There are other good Wii U titles, but the console’s lineup is still pretty thin, especially in comparison to Nintendo’s own hand-held 3DS, which has shipped almost 35 million units worldwide in its two and a half years on the market, including more than 11 million in the United States.

If the Wii U is your only console, you still can’t play the rest of the this year’s best games, including Grand Theft Auto V, BioShock Infinite, Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch, The Last of Us and Gone Home. You would need at least two more machines to play all of those.

But for the first time, you need a Wii U to play one of the year’s best video games. For beleaguered Wii U owners, that’s probably enough.

The full article contains plenty of detailed praise for Super Mario 3D World, but editorials such as this — while we're still in the depth of new console launches — all help spread a positive message for the Wii U. Super Mario 3D World may not be able to do all of the heavy lifting on its own, but it may yet bear a lot of weight for the system's cause.

[via nytimes.com, gonintendo.com]

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Ony

#1

Ony said:

Oh no, Nintendo is doooooooomed.

Are some peoples starting to open their eyes? Wii U IS a great console, and have plenty of great games that peoples tend to ignore.

Omarsonic9

#2

Omarsonic9 said:

@Ony That's the problem. Nintendo should advertise advertise advertise!!!!
more TV ads!!!!!!! They should maybe even consider expanding to the middle east, not alot here freaking know about Wii U...

Nareva

#3

Nareva said:

Yep, I'm bringing the Wii U to Thanksgiving this year. I expect my little nephews will freak out. They're Wii-raised Mario fanatics.

ThumperUK

#4

ThumperUK said:

There is a simple reason why the Xbone has outsold the total WiiU sales in the UK. I've seen vastly more adverts on mainstream TV for the Xbone in just the last two weeks than for the entirety of NintendoUK's ads (including launch adverts). Mario is due for launch on Friday, but I've seen a grand total of one advert for it on TV (I've seen all four on NintendoLife!). Pikmin had a few adverts (even fewer at prime time), Luigi had none, neither did Wonderful 101. Unless you read NintendoLife you won't know CoD or Batman are on the WiiU (for all their shortcomings) but they have been advertised as 360/PS3 releases.

If you can't be bothered advertising a system, then you can't expect people to fork out £250+ for a console (especially when you don't know it is out there). Advertising sells consoles as much as AAA games.

mostro328

#6

mostro328 said:

I wish these third parties would grow some balls and bring there titles to wii u

They cant rely only on nintendos titles to boost sales gamers will buy the system if they (third parties) made there games for the system

Gta v, battlefield, ni no kuni, ea sports games, far cry 3 are all games to menhion a few that skipped the system, which couldd have boosted the sale of the system

mostro328

#7

mostro328 said:

@ThumperUK very true the roll out and continous marketing for this system has neen dismal. I huarantee that we the fans can and couldve come up with a way better marketing campaign for the system. Nintendo has to dump the old ways and get dome new blood to market this system

Mahe

#8

Mahe said:

The Wii U has plenty of games other than Mario 3D World worth playing.

GamerJunkie

#9

GamerJunkie said:

He praises Nintendo for having 1 great game, but also mentions it is only 1 game and thats it.

"...One great game won’t save a console. "

"If the Wii U is your only console, you still can’t play the rest of the this year’s best games, including Grand Theft Auto V, BioShock Infinite, Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch, The Last of Us and Gone Home. You would need at least two more machines to play all of those."

I agree with him, Mario 3D world is my favorite game right now, but its just 1 game. I still need my PC and PS4 to play all the rest of the games that I must have.

Mahe

#10

Mahe said:

Just Dance 2014, Wii Fit U, Wii Party U, Mighty Switch Force 1 & 2, New SMB & New Super Luigi U, Trine 2: Director's Cut, Spin the Bottle: Bumpie's Party... the Wii U game library is much better now.

WiiWillRockU

#11

WiiWillRockU said:

It makes sense that if you wanted to play all the best titles you would need every system. I don't need to play every single "best" game released. I have a PS3/Wii setup right now and it drives me crazy. I'm planning on Wii U only for this gen. My family has way more fun playing Wii games than PS3 games. I mainly use the PS3 for me and as a bluray player/streaming device. As time goes on there are more and more games for me on Wii U and I stopped buying bluray discs almost a year ago. Wii U being HD means streaming is just as good as the PS3. I would have appreciated some Black Friday price drops on a console, though.

Peach64

#12

Peach64 said:

I think most people agree with this. Personally I don't buy a console until it has 4-5 games I want, so no interest in the new consoles yet, but all the friends I know that have bought them acknowledge they're getting them for the future. The games from Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Santa Monica, Japan studio etc. Super Mario 3D World is rightly being agreed upon as the game on the holidays by most right now.

@Mostro328 Why do 3rd parties care if Wii U sells? It's not their responsibility to help Nintendo out. Almost every 3rd party game on Wii U has lost money. There's no sense in making Wii U games right now.

Nareva

#13

Nareva said:

@Peach64 "Almost every 3rd party game on Wii U has lost money."

Is that true or just hyperbole based on internal estimates?

KennyPowers

#14

KennyPowers said:

@Nareva

Splinter Cell only sold a few thousand copies, there won't be a Zombi-U sequel due to poor sales, Rayman sold poorly, W101 (2nd party) sold atrociously, at the height of its popularity Black Ops 2 only had a couple thousand people online at any given time (compared to 400,000+ on the other consoles), not one single Wii-U third party release has gotten all of the DLC that the Sony/Xbox versions have recieved due to poor sales, etc..

They are facts.

element187

#17

element187 said:

@Peach64 I don't understand the reasoning of buying a console today for games that don't come out for another year or more.

That's like buying a launch Wii u because you know it's going to get a 3d Mario game eventually. 12 months later it finally arrives. Meanwhile you could have waited 12 months to buy a Wii U and saved a little bit of cash with the price drop and a better bundle.

The sub-Nextgen twins might be worth the investment next holiday season, as it's library gets a bit more fleshed out... Just like the Wii U was a rip off last holiday season (I had a launch Wii U, if I could do it over again I would have asked my wife for something else for Xmas '12), but it now has a pretty monster library of exclusives ready for this holiday: 3d World, W101, Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports, NSMBU & NSLU, Wii Party U, then + whatever ports you might want.

I just don't see how the two new systems will fair as great as the analysts are predicting. We can expect them to have a great launch month and holiday, but getting past the pent up demand of launching a new system is one thing as there will always be people ready to buy, itching for something new they been waiting on. But past that demand into next year. Having superior hardware isn't worth much without the software to go along with it.

shigulicious

#18

shigulicious said:

A couple of my friends bought a PS4. I asked them what games are they playing on it. They both sais none. I know a console is an investment, and I will buy a PS4 myself down the road. But right now, a WiiU and Mario 3D world is clearly the best you can do with the new hardware, IMO. So buy a WiiU sillies!

Slapshot

#19

Slapshot said:

Regardless of how great Super Mario 3D World is, it still doesn't make the weak library for the system enough for me to invest in the console. I'm beyond burned out on Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. is coming to the 3DS, so unless Nintendo comes out with a couple of knock-out punches in the next year or two, I won't be purchasing a Wii U until late in its life cycle.

The very same rule applies to both the PS4 and Xbox One as well. I have zero interest in forking out the high investment prices for these consoles to play a small handful of games.

Mahe

#20

Mahe said:

@Slapshot Yeah it's true, even with the number of new games out, the Wii U still isn't as well off as the original Wii was in its first year, and it doesn't look like it's catching up to the Wii anytime soon.

odd69

#22

odd69 said:

The critic is right. There is nothing like it out there, and now my wiiu gets love.

Einherjar

#23

Einherjar said:

I must admit, that i maily invest in nintendo consoles / handhelds just for the "experience" as stupid as it may sound honestly.
And knowing that nintendo franchises are coming eventually is a definit reason for me. I may be labeled as a fanboy, maybe rightfully so, but nintendo franchises / games are what i grew up with and are what i call games. Thats the simple and naive reason for me to stick with nintendo, even through hard times.
We know, that the upcomming games for the Xone and the PS4 are, more or less, just better looking versions of games we already got last gen. Sure, the same thing can be said about each mario / zelda whatever game, but i simply enjoy them way more.
Geeze, i cant phrase it in a way that isnt a pure fanboy banter :P
Long story short: When i buy nintendo products, i know pretty much exactly what i get in the long run. With other consoles, its completely depending on the games out at the moment, and there is literall ynothing out right now and nothing coming in the near future that would give me any reason to invest in a new MS / Sony console early.

JudgeMethos

#24

JudgeMethos said:

I was gonna pass on the game cuz I wanted a Galaxy-esque Mario but decided to go ahead and try it. Holy BALLS! I am sprung on this game. I am addicted and haven't felt this way about a game in years. I play single player. I can ONLY IMAGINE how even more awesome it would be in multiplayer. Good jerb, Nintendo. Good jerb!!!

Darknyht

#25

Darknyht said:

I disagree with the critic that there is nothing on the Wii U worth playing. To remind you here is a list of games released since July (when I purchased my Wii U): Skylanders: Swap Force, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV, Batman: Arkham Origins, Lego: Marvel Superheroes, Super Mario 3D World, Disney Infinity, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Rayman Legends, Wonderful 101, Zelda: Windwaker HD, and Deus Ex: Director's Edition.

While most are on another console, but if Nintendo is your console there is not a lack of games. The only genre underrepresented on the console is sports, but that is 2K and EA's fault more than Nintendo's.

bmprsvz777

#26

bmprsvz777 said:

I hate these wars "who is better bigger stronger"... Let everybody buy what they like... I have 2 children and I can not imagine other console for them but Wii or Wii U. What would they play on PS4? But if you are 18 and love to shoot aliens go on and buy 8-core whatever and enjoy... Each console has it's own market place and I do not see Wii U as failure, it found some customers who feel satisfied. I might be wrong but some people will have enough of GTA one day and Wii U might be their refreshing new discovery.

Jayvir

#27

Jayvir said:

Why do people act like Mario 3D World is the only good game on the console? Lego City, The Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate are all great. I have a pretty big library of good Wii U games. I fully expect by the end of next year that I'll have more games on that console than my PS3

Spoony_Tech

#28

Spoony_Tech said:

@Darknyht I totally agree with you and to add to those Pikmon 3, Lego City, Monster Hunter Ultimate and Need for Speed are all games I would want too. Not to mention like 5 more launch games!

The main reason I haven't picked up a Wii U yet is money more so then games as I think there is plenty of good ones on offer! Raising a family of three kids is expensive and other expenses come up all the time! This year will be the year I funally get one and its not because of Mario (although it looks great). The Skylanders bundle is just too hard to pass up. I have a 6 year old that has never played it and that will be the perfect entry point for me and my family. We will also have tons of fun with Nintendo Land! Sometimes not being able to buy day one has its benefits.

Artwark

#29

Artwark said:

How difficult is it to post ads on popular tv channels for Nintendo? Why couldn't they make ads like how they did for NES times? Is it controversial?

orravan85

#30

orravan85 said:

I get a lot of people admitting to me that thee Wii U is a great system and a great buy. But just don't take the plunge because they wanted to wait and see what the other systems have to offer. Oh and knowing that so far, no BF4 means no buy.

Captain_Toad

#31

Captain_Toad said:

Heh, Super Mario 3D World is getting so much praise that they think it's the only game worth buying for the WiiU... and not the other games that's been out on the WiiU for a whole year......

Ducutzu

#32

Ducutzu said:

I read the NYT article, and it was another article written by one who doesn't really like videogames (but writes about them).

The internet is full of these people - regardless of their hobby, they once played a lot, but now they just talk and write on the Internet about the hobby, generally being critical of new releases.

mercurio2054

#35

mercurio2054 said:

umm.. @FutureAlphaMale but i don't know if was here or in wiiudailly that i see that total software shipments was over the 20 millions an not the 11 millions like the we you have says.

MEGAMAN_D

#36

MEGAMAN_D said:

As a huge horror fan, I find it somewhat wrong that Zombi U never gets a mention as a must have Wii U game. Zombi U brought terror and dispair back to survival horror games, something that other and more well known studios have failed to do in years.

And as for other must play games what about deus ex directors cut, NSMBU, sonic lost world, monster hunter, and nintendo land ?

And other multiplats like batman arkham city, splinter cell, AC4, NFS MW U, rayman legends, lego city undercover, lego marvel, COD ghosts, resident evil revelations, pikmin 3, and W101 ?

KillScottKill

#37

KillScottKill said:

Yeah, the guy seems a little ignorant. SM3DW is great (and I've had a lot of fun with in the past few days), but it's not all the Wii U has to offer. There are other very good games. At the end of the day, you could buy a Wii U today and have enough games at your disposal to carry you into next Thanksgiving. You can't say that about the other new consoles, and that should be the Wii U's selling point.

Captain_Balko

#38

Captain_Balko said:

@KillScottKill I completely agree with you there. I have a large backlog of games on my Wii U that I really need to start whittling down. Friends with other systems have one or two launch games that will last them maybe a week or two each, and that's it for a while. The Wii U has a lot of fantastic games that, as you say, could last an entire year. Depending on how much you play, and what your genre interests are, it could last potentially longer (if you're like me and have limited time to play and enjoy virtually every genre, I'd say you could have enough games to play for at least a year and a half, if not two years).

Faron

#39

Faron said:

This game is just the beginning. After the other heavy- hitters hit the shelves, those doubters who always spell doom for Nintendo will ONCE AGAIN, for the millionth time have to admit that they were wrong. Wake up for gods sakes... seriously. When the hell are you going to wake up? Learn from History! Here's a prediction: Nintendo Does Well in this generation. But when the Next Next generation has started, everyone is once again predicting doom for Nintendo.

P.S. People like that analyst Pachter must have something wrong in their brain. How else could anyone be so wrong so constantly.

P.P.S. I apologise for this off-topic rant.

PerezBro99

#40

PerezBro99 said:

I, personally, kind of agree with him. Super Mario 3D World is the only game that can make a lot of people go "crazy" and get a Wii U right away. And I got to say, that game is amazing I've been playing non stop with my friends and family. I'm already on the last LAST level with 99%, but I'll take care of that alone.
The Wii U has other great games such as new super mario bros U, pikmin 3, and especially, Zelda Wind Waker HD. However, I didn't see them as a bomb and make everybody crazy for them, now don't get me wrong, I love those games to death but Super Mario 3D World has more potential than them. New Super Mario Bros U is just an HD version of the Wii version, and I'm fine with that. Pikmin 3 is a great puzzle game with lots of ideas, but is ignored because of its looks. And Zelda Wind Waker HD is an AMAZING adventure game that takes everything from the GameCube version and improves it, but people think it's just the same old game just with HD graphics.

aj_fowl

#41

aj_fowl said:

@FutureAlphaMale None of the titles you mentioned have the eShop numbers listed. ZombiU sold more then many titles on other consoles. The issue was that Ubisoft put way more money into development then it actually needed.

HawkeyeWii

#42

HawkeyeWii said:

Why doesn't Nintendo advertise? In the past month I have seen over 60 commericals for Xbox One and PS4 combined and not 1 not 1!!!! Wii U commerical. This is why the Wii U is failing, right there folks.

theblackdragonAdmin

#43

theblackdragon said:

@HawkeyeWii: It could have something to do with what you watch and how, and also where in the world you are — I've been getting hammered by commercials for SM3DW and Wii U while watching Hulu lately, and also that PS4 commercial over and over. I can't quite remember every single thing I've watched lately, but i know i've watched South Park, American Dad, Family Guy, WWE programming (RAW, SD, NXT), and reruns of Hell's Kitchen via Hulu lately. Haven't seen a single Xbone advertisement.

I also remember from years ago being home in the afternoons, Nintendo ran a lot of commercials during kids' mid-afternoon programming, and they may be doing so again if you tend to watch TV more in the evenings or no one in your family really watches kids' programming. I was so sick of those DSi commercials, especially that Beyonce one, lol.

Benjaminitonio

#44

Benjaminitonio said:

What ever happened to china's lift of the console ban? That's a giant market, did any new console make it over there yet?

rjejr

#45

rjejr said:

@PerezBro99 - Most well reasoned rationale response Ive read all day. Sometimes people take the "1 game" comments way too literally. I bought my Wii U for Pikmin 3 and Pokemon Rumble U (which felt like the 1st quarter of a game) and Pikmin 3 is good. But good isnt the same as "you MUST buy a console to play this game". Thats what SM3DW has that no other game or console has.

TechnoEA

#46

TechnoEA said:

It is true though, well opinion wise, it is the only next-gen (Yes it IS Next Gen in my eyes) console with a game worth playing this year.

This is coming from someone who chose to get the PS4 instead of the Wii U at the moment. I only bought it sooner because I know I won't be able to buy a console when school starts for me and inFamous Second Son and Order 1886 comes out within a few months.

donkeykong64

#47

donkeykong64 said:

There are only 3 must have games for the wii u. 3d world, pikmin 3 and wind waker hd. Someone out on the street isnt going to care about Wonderful101, or the sequel to wii fit. Once smash bros, mario kart and donkey kong come out, the wii u will no doubt have the best library of next gen consoles.

IceRod

#48

IceRod said:

@GamerJunkie Actually since the PS4 does not have backwards compatibility, it will not get you very far for the games you "must have" like Ni No Kuni and Grand Theft Auto V. You will actually need a PS3. But great job constantly leaving messages about the PS4 on several articles the past few days. If Sony is not paying you, they really should be....

GamerJunkie

#49

GamerJunkie said:

@IceRod Like I said I have PC, Wii U and PS4, I have them all, so I don't need to try to convince anybody what 1 to get, only poor kids do that. I just give my opinion about each one that I own.

I mentioned PS4 many times this week because its new and something to compare to the Wii U and so many articles talking about how PS4 and XB1 already outsold Wii U's yearly sales in 2-3 days. So of course I am mentioning PS4 lately, its a hot topic.

I also mentioned Mario 3d world in every post all week, its a great game, a hot topic and its Wii U....

And for PC I mentioned the great bundle of pinball tables you can get, only $1-5 to own 20-40 of the zen pinball tables that normally would cost much more.

See, I enjoy every platform that i have and talk about them all, I am not busy just defending only 1 of them like many here.

Mahe

#50

Mahe said:

@Nareva Unfortunately, the fact is that there is not a definite site for video game sales figures. The actual, real information is rarely published outside Japan.

Gamer83

#51

Gamer83 said:

@Slapshot

Are you really going to want to play Smash on 3DS over Wii U though? The experience isn't going to be near as good.

Diddy_kong

#52

Diddy_kong said:

I agree with the notion that a gamer does need two consoles. Mario 3D World is absolutely incredible, but so were Bioshock Infinite and Ni No Kuni. I'm proud to support both Nintendo and Sony when it comes to home consoles.

And let's not be too harsh on the launch libraries of the PS4 and Xbone. Yes, they're a little thin, but the Wii U launched with a Mario platformer which is extremely similar to the 3 titles before it, and a bunch of sub-par ports of games that had already been out on other systems for months. In the grand scheme of a consoles' lifespan the launch lineup is nearly meaningless.

QuickSilver88

#53

QuickSilver88 said:

@FutureAlphaMale

Actually I believe AC3 got all DLC? Rayman sold poorly on all systems but actually sold better on WiiU than ps360 and they have 75mil bases compared to 4mil for WiiU. ZombieU sold over 400K which isn't bad for a launch game on a new console. Splinter Cell sold like poo on all systems but was really weak on WiiU. W101 selling poorly is a real shame as it is a cool spin on an action SRPG......hopefully things pick up for 3rd parties because not all the ports are crap...some of them have been good and deserve better support.

S7eventhHeaven

#54

S7eventhHeaven said:

id just like to point out regarding sub par ports. .. call of duty ghosts on ps4 is the worst version with a 1080 resolution that the system just can not handle with frame rates dropping to 15 fps during the single player game when things get hairy

Urbanhispanic

#55

Urbanhispanic said:

People need to release that the only ones who know about the great games available for the Wii U are the ones who visit gaming sites on the internet. If Nintendo doesn't aggressively advertise their console, then people outside of the video gaming circle will NEVER know about the other games BESIDES Super Mario 3D World that are worth playing.

JaxonH

#58

JaxonH said:

It didn't happen overnight, but Wii U now boasts a pretty stellar one year lineup as far as top-tier must-play games goes. Everyone was so busy saying "Wii U has no games" that they failed to realize the Wii U was slowly building up it's library right under their noses. No longer can anyone say the Wii U isn't worth a purchase, nor can anyone claim there isn't enough great games.

The thing with Wii U is (and this is true for most Nintendo consoles), instead of having a library of 100 good games after it's first year, it will have a library of 10 to 15 masterpieces- most, if not all, exclusive to to the system. And those that aren't exclusive to the system are by far the most desirable versions due to how much the Gamepad Advantage truly adds to a gamer's utility of fun. Even with a missing co-op mode here and there, I'd still much rather play multiplats on Wii U, and that speaks volumes for the experience found on this truly unique console.

Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101 and Windwaker HD was just as compelling a trio as GTA 5, Saints Row 4 and Bioshock Infinite, and in my own personal opinion, leagues better. So yes, there are countless games Wii U owners will never see. But it goes both ways. And to me, the Wii U saw more desirable releases this year than any other console, save perhaps the 3DS (PS3 had a fairly remarkable year as well I should note, but with the exception of Ni No Kuni and Tales of Xilia, they don't really interest me).

IceRod

#59

IceRod said:

@GamerJunkie I do understand you are mentioning everything, but I feel you come off a little biased in favor of Sony. I myself own a PS3 and Wii U (had a Wii and PS2 before that, so I feel I can make fair comparisons as well). I love both the Wii U and PS3, as they offer different and unique libraries of games. Now will I get a PS4? Probably, but definitely not this holiday season. Probably not until a year or more from now, when it actually has good games on it and the price comes down. Yes, PS Plus can give you games to play right out of the box, but you can get all of that on the PS3, plus a working BluRay player, plus an awesome game library. I just haven't really heard of any reason to upgrade to a PS4 yet, especially if you already own a PS3.

IceRod

#60

IceRod said:

@JaxonH I completely agree with you. I really think that it might help to list all of these games out so people can see how many great games there are for the Wii U:

Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Bros. U
Super Luigi U
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
Wii Party U
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Scribblenauts Unmasked
Rayman Legends

All of these have been reviewed well. Then you have the other games that are maybe not so great but still might be enjoyed by you:

Sonic Lost World
Sonic Racing Transformed
Game and Wario
Zombii U

And finally the multiplatform games like Assassin's Creed IV, Batman Arkham Origins, etc. Not to mention downloadable titles like Toki Tori, Edge, and Virtual Console titles.

Overall I feel the Wii U has a very healthy catalogue, and in the next year we will have the following (not counting what Nintendo has still not announced) to look forward to:

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Super Smash Bros. Wii U
Mario Kart 8
X
Bayonetta 2

GamerJunkie

#61

GamerJunkie said:

@IceRod Why would I want a blu ray player? PS4 has all of the streaming services that offer thousands of movies free in HD and HDX and your ultraviolet library. Also you can rent movies from netflix, epix, sony unlimited and so on.

And on PS3 you can't get all of the PS4 games I get on PS plus. Many are only offered on PS4. So in this 1 year I will accumulate probably at least 30 free PS4 games. That alone pays for the console being that I bought 2 and sold one already and so it only cost me $200 from my pocket top begin with.

You don't NEED to buy any console, you can always stick to one or older ones of course. But I love to be able to choose from all of the best games each year so I get the new ones ASAP and I have 550+ PC games on steam which I could never finish before I die, so its not about having things to play, I just love to be able to play the latest games.

When I talk to PC gamers they all laugh at my consoles telling me how much better graphics are on PC and how there's 100 PC to each 1 console game. Its a joke they act as if I don't also have a PC. So I can play both sides and enjoy both.

I don't take sides in those arguments. I have a gaming PC, a PS4, a Wii U. When a good game is out on any of them I can get it and enjoy it, not argue "Hey my Mario 3D World is better than your new Metal gear game..so I will never get that system, I am loyal to this one and sticking with it" — that's idiotic.

I compare my systems and games, give opinion on improvements that need to be made, but no I am not taking sides of any, just tell it how it is.

Shambo

#62

Shambo said:

@Peach64 I think this is a classic case for some of the old 'help me help you'.

"The Wii U is also the only new console with a video game worth playing", these are -up until today- my thoughts exactly, only that I would make 'game' plural, for I love every bit of ZombiU, Pikmin 3, W101, Lego City, WW HD and Rayman Legends with the Gamepad. And there's more worth playing.
But even the all-around gamer in me doesn't see anything he really likes on other next-gen systems... While Wii U promises quite a few more games I MUST have.

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