@somnambulance This is drop 1 of 3. There’s still room for songs to return. The only ones confirmed to not be back are the three Muskabeatz songs from 4.
Also people are insane for whining about rap songs being on the soundtrack considering 3 and 4 were 50/50 when it came to punk and hip hop. They’ve got Jeff Rosenstock and WAVVES added and they’ve added Kendrick and RTJ so it’s still as 50/50 as it’s always been.
@Chlocean Add Disco Elysium to the pile, another one ruined by corporate greed. Jury’s out on Celeste, something might materialise at some point. ConcernedApe will be making Stardew Valley until he’s dead and Silksong is vapourware. Part of the issue is that making something new isn’t guaranteed success, many indie devs rapidly expand after unexpected success and the only way out after that is economic constriction, downsizing then death or acquisition. Building from success to success is borderline impossible, no matter how many suits toot the ‘constant growth’ horn.
Indie devs and abusive behaviour, name a more iconic duo!
It’s almost like cults of personality and company abuses are much more common if there’s less of an internal structure and more of a ‘I am the auteur and you are my plebs’ setup going on. Personal grievances are amplified massively in devs like these too because you end up with founders claiming they’re the real genius and the other is just a money-grubbing charlatan.
@you4rhea I dunno where that started, I’ve seen loads of people mistakenly saying that 4 PS1 had the 2 minute formula and it just isn’t true. Mad how they can create a whole campaign with free roam goals on the PS1 in 2003 but it’s just too much for a modern dev to tackle.
@ParadoxFawkes Underground 2 is probably the most played game in the series because THUG PRO is built on it. It’s a decent game anyway but the Jackass stuff has aged horribly. Also Skate came out in 2007, the same year as Tony Hawk’s Proving Grounds which was the last real game until 5 anyway, the series didn’t really overlap.
Both can be true. Tony Hawk 4 is being objectively butchered, it’s not the same game at all. Tony Hawk 3 I think will be a fantastic remake and exactly what I, and lots of the community, wanted.
A bunch of good changes here. The game’s great but issues are more noticeable the more games you play.
@MegaMari0 I wouldn’t say it’s barebones at all, there’s honestly a lot of stuff there in the game. My main issue is the games feel a bit repetitive given what the AI prioritises and you can feel railroaded into a Culture Victory. The changes will turn it into a game on par with IV and V.
@squidduforeal ….Microsoft and Sony provide a month in advance when they remove games from their services. This was removed with no warning. You’re talking hypotheticals when there’s demonstrable evidence that Nintendo have provided less warning or lead-up than other companies.
God I’m so ready for these, even if 3 and 4’s campaigns will be completely different! Hope the music’s back, 4 had a great mix of heavier tracks and the hip hop, Eyedea and Abilities’ Big Shots and Hot Water Music’s Freightliner on blast 😂
@ibookboyuk The pro videos you unlock in 4 for beating each pro challenge were my first introduction to a lot of the legends. Bob Burnquist even had his Mega Ramp!
5 absolute legends in one photo. Wonder who else will make it into this one? Basically all of the OGs apart from Daewon Song, Tony Alva, Mike V and a couple others who made it into the later games were missing from 1+2 but there’s a wealth of newer talent to encourage. I’d love to have Sky Brown just cause we need more Brits, and probably Andy Anderson even though freestyle skating doesn’t really suit the gameplay of THPS. Other picks would be Jaws (insane guy) and either Mark Appleyard (he was in Session tbf) or Ali Boulala (unlikely considering his retirement despite being in Skate 1) just to have another Flip guy from Sorry.
If the tips return from THPS4 then there’s one that talks about ‘almost’ only counting with horseshoes and Jamie Thomas or something to that effect, referring to him essentially landing the Leap of Faith but the board shattering in two. Well worth a watch!
@PessitheMystic I struggle to think of a game that’s not a perfect fit for Switch. I’d say something like Half-Life Alyx but I’d love to see them attempt to port that to Labo.
Every time I have grievances with my government (often) I remember at least I’m not American. Tariffs are just another entry in the schlong swinging compendium and Nintendo are one of many, many companies affected.
I don’t understand at all why they chucked the wider Sega crossover content from the series. Team Sonic Racing is rizzless, a corporate slop branding exercise without any of the charm of the earlier games. Stick Kiryu, Billy Hatcher, Beat and Vyse in there and then we’ll talk.
We did get some bangers in the late DS and Wii eras but the same cannot really be said for 3DS and Wii U (minus BotW). With this being a straight upgrade from Switch 1, I see support being dropped fairly quickly.
@SwitchVogel Fairly mad that they’ve bothered to make the new engine run that well on Switch, I was beginning to think the old beast had finally met its match with modern JRPGs. Optimisation must have been a big focus for Falcom.
I can’t believe these ones run smoothly, I’m playing Reverie and it chugs like f**king Thomas the Tank Engine everytime you face Crossbell, an issue that remains from Cold Steel 3 and 4.
@Medic_alert FC25 is DREADFUL. I actually quite liked last year’s game as well. This one… the defensive AI is an active hinderance, the player switching is messed up, passes are wildly inaccurate and your wingers aren’t fast enough even with 99 pace. It’s truly a bad game. They had a patch last month that made the game feel incredible to play and then it was instantly rolled back because the pros were finishing every match about 12-11 and that was ‘unrealistic’.
@Anti-Matter Might be possible with Switch 2’s mouse controls! I’ve been enjoying Sims 2 again even minus the H&M content but Sims 1 is seriously difficult and far more limiting than I remember.
Tale of Two Towns is so insanely clear of these two, now that could do with a Switch port. These two were not great but to be fair, large amounts of that was due to them running like molasses on 3DS.
Celeste is amazing and the pressure to top it just can be crushing at the indie level. I dunno how anyone delivers a follow-up project to something like that especially these days when expectations are so high.
It was basically essential. And to be honest, that’s why I loved Nintendo growing up as our GameCube library was playable on Wii, which was then playable on Wii U. And of course DS games were playable on 3DS (had a DSi so no GBA games for me)
It sounds stupid but this series has been legitimately worse since the jump to Switch. Rune Factory 4 is the pinnacle of farming games and the more 3D gameplay just irritates and makes all facets of gameplay infinitely more annoying. It’s OK for games to remain top down, we don’t need to make every single series a third person behind the shoulder game. Stick to your strengths!!!
One of the best things about the community is the love they pour into projects like Pretendo. The PS2 servers are brilliant too. It’s surely the greatest compliment that people still want to play your games.
I have both a Wii and PS3 Les Paul as well as a Wii World Tour guitar. The PS3 one is infinitely easier to connect to PC but the Wii discs are where I played the games first so I have a lot of nostalgia for these controllers with the big Wiimote window.
I played this for the first time a couple months back and enjoyed it for the most part. Bit crazy difficult in places and not as good as the first two but still a solid game. Soundtrack’s decent too.
@Daniel36 I lost my last shred of patience when the cat that had been in 3 whole games suddenly became a catgirl with feelings for the protagonist. Baffling.
This is where it would be very nice to have a female writer on staff, but we just get male opinions written into articles like this instead. I’m astounded that it’s not been addressed.
Wow they’ve completely stripped the soul from it. I get they want to homogenise the series but Sky’s a time capsule for a certain era of anime visuals which has aged really well. If they ‘update’ the script with the modern Trails writers it’ll end up an embarassing goonfest too, Cold Steel is such a colossal drop in quality.
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Re: The Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Soundtrack Sounds Expectedly Rockin'
@somnambulance This is drop 1 of 3. There’s still room for songs to return. The only ones confirmed to not be back are the three Muskabeatz songs from 4.
Also people are insane for whining about rap songs being on the soundtrack considering 3 and 4 were 50/50 when it came to punk and hip hop. They’ve got Jeff Rosenstock and WAVVES added and they’ve added Kendrick and RTJ so it’s still as 50/50 as it’s always been.
Re: Inside Dev Threatens Legal Action Against Studio Co-Founder As "Bullying" Allegations Arise
@Chlocean Add Disco Elysium to the pile, another one ruined by corporate greed. Jury’s out on Celeste, something might materialise at some point. ConcernedApe will be making Stardew Valley until he’s dead and Silksong is vapourware. Part of the issue is that making something new isn’t guaranteed success, many indie devs rapidly expand after unexpected success and the only way out after that is economic constriction, downsizing then death or acquisition. Building from success to success is borderline impossible, no matter how many suits toot the ‘constant growth’ horn.
Re: Inside Dev Threatens Legal Action Against Studio Co-Founder As "Bullying" Allegations Arise
Indie devs and abusive behaviour, name a more iconic duo!
It’s almost like cults of personality and company abuses are much more common if there’s less of an internal structure and more of a ‘I am the auteur and you are my plebs’ setup going on. Personal grievances are amplified massively in devs like these too because you end up with founders claiming they’re the real genius and the other is just a money-grubbing charlatan.
Re: Meet The Stellar Cast Of Trails In The Sky 1st Chapter
The recasts are such a shame. I grew pretty attached to the JP voice cast of the Liberl crew cause I played the Evo versions first.
Re: Opinion: The Best Tony Hawk Game Is Grinding Back, And I Can Only Hold My Breath
@you4rhea I dunno where that started, I’ve seen loads of people mistakenly saying that 4 PS1 had the 2 minute formula and it just isn’t true. Mad how they can create a whole campaign with free roam goals on the PS1 in 2003 but it’s just too much for a modern dev to tackle.
Re: Opinion: The Best Tony Hawk Game Is Grinding Back, And I Can Only Hold My Breath
@ParadoxFawkes Underground 2 is probably the most played game in the series because THUG PRO is built on it. It’s a decent game anyway but the Jackass stuff has aged horribly. Also Skate came out in 2007, the same year as Tony Hawk’s Proving Grounds which was the last real game until 5 anyway, the series didn’t really overlap.
Re: Opinion: The Best Tony Hawk Game Is Grinding Back, And I Can Only Hold My Breath
Both can be true. Tony Hawk 4 is being objectively butchered, it’s not the same game at all. Tony Hawk 3 I think will be a fantastic remake and exactly what I, and lots of the community, wanted.
Re: Skullgirls Dev Is Off The Game, Taking Legal Action Against Publisher
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Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Two More Titles
DK ‘94 is a classic for a reason. Such a good game.
Re: Rare's Original N64 Shooter Could Be Inducted Into The 2025 World Video Game Hall Of Fame
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Re: Looks Like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 On Switch Will Require A Mandatory Download
At this point you should just be thankful they’re porting PS5 games to an 8 year old handheld console.
Re: Civilization VII's First Major Update Marches Onto Switch, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
A bunch of good changes here. The game’s great but issues are more noticeable the more games you play.
@MegaMari0 I wouldn’t say it’s barebones at all, there’s honestly a lot of stuff there in the game. My main issue is the games feel a bit repetitive given what the AI prioritises and you can feel railroaded into a Culture Victory. The changes will turn it into a game on par with IV and V.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Removal Of Switch Online SNES Classic
@squidduforeal ….Microsoft and Sony provide a month in advance when they remove games from their services. This was removed with no warning. You’re talking hypotheticals when there’s demonstrable evidence that Nintendo have provided less warning or lead-up than other companies.
Re: Final Minecraft Movie Trailer Still Hasn't Convinced Us On The Big-Screen Adaptation
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Re: Pokémon Champions Limited To "Select Pokémon" At Launch
To be perfectly honest, I think I’ll stick to Showdown!
Re: How Would You Rate The Pokémon Presents Showcase For February 2025?
Bring back Pokepark!
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Has Been Rated For Switch
God I’m so ready for these, even if 3 and 4’s campaigns will be completely different! Hope the music’s back, 4 had a great mix of heavier tracks and the hip hop, Eyedea and Abilities’ Big Shots and Hot Water Music’s Freightliner on blast 😂
Re: Activision Teases Tony Hawk's Return In A New Update
@ibookboyuk The pro videos you unlock in 4 for beating each pro challenge were my first introduction to a lot of the legends. Bob Burnquist even had his Mega Ramp!
Re: Activision Teases Tony Hawk's Return In A New Update
5 absolute legends in one photo. Wonder who else will make it into this one? Basically all of the OGs apart from Daewon Song, Tony Alva, Mike V and a couple others who made it into the later games were missing from 1+2 but there’s a wealth of newer talent to encourage. I’d love to have Sky Brown just cause we need more Brits, and probably Andy Anderson even though freestyle skating doesn’t really suit the gameplay of THPS. Other picks would be Jaws (insane guy) and either Mark Appleyard (he was in Session tbf) or Ali Boulala (unlikely considering his retirement despite being in Skate 1) just to have another Flip guy from Sorry.
If the tips return from THPS4 then there’s one that talks about ‘almost’ only counting with horseshoes and Jamie Thomas or something to that effect, referring to him essentially landing the Leap of Faith but the board shattering in two. Well worth a watch!
https://youtu.be/dqqPCqyAfl4
Re: Acclaimed Horror Title 'Mouthwashing' Is Making Its Way To Switch
@PessitheMystic I struggle to think of a game that’s not a perfect fit for Switch. I’d say something like Half-Life Alyx but I’d love to see them attempt to port that to Labo.
Re: New Tactical RPG From Danganronpa & Zero Escape Creators Scores A Demo
I totally forgot about this one. Could be fun.
Re: Nintendo "Establishing Ways To Respond" To U.S. Tariffs, Says Furukawa
Every time I have grievances with my government (often) I remember at least I’m not American. Tariffs are just another entry in the schlong swinging compendium and Nintendo are one of many, many companies affected.
Re: Poll: 10 Years On, Which Version Of Zelda: Majora's Mask Is Best?
Both have their merits. Could do with a definitive version.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Rumours Surface Ahead Of Sony's 'State Of Play'
I don’t understand at all why they chucked the wider Sega crossover content from the series. Team Sonic Racing is rizzless, a corporate slop branding exercise without any of the charm of the earlier games. Stick Kiryu, Billy Hatcher, Beat and Vyse in there and then we’ll talk.
Re: Talking Point: Where Should 'Luigi's Mansion 4' Take Place?
Just want it to be the same tone as the first game, which is genuinely creepy. The slapstick should complement the scares not undermine them.
Re: Nintendo Talks About Future Switch Support Ahead Of Switch 2 Launch
We did get some bangers in the late DS and Wii eras but the same cannot really be said for 3DS and Wii U (minus BotW). With this being a straight upgrade from Switch 1, I see support being dropped fairly quickly.
Re: Review: The Legend Of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II (Switch) - Does The Job, But Not A Series High
@SwitchVogel Fairly mad that they’ve bothered to make the new engine run that well on Switch, I was beginning to think the old beast had finally met its match with modern JRPGs. Optimisation must have been a big focus for Falcom.
Re: Review: The Legend Of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II (Switch) - Does The Job, But Not A Series High
I can’t believe these ones run smoothly, I’m playing Reverie and it chugs like f**king Thomas the Tank Engine everytime you face Crossbell, an issue that remains from Cold Steel 3 and 4.
Re: EA: Switch 2 Could Help Games Like FC And Madden "Find Real Energy"
@Medic_alert FC25 is DREADFUL. I actually quite liked last year’s game as well. This one… the defensive AI is an active hinderance, the player switching is messed up, passes are wildly inaccurate and your wingers aren’t fast enough even with 99 pace. It’s truly a bad game. They had a patch last month that made the game feel incredible to play and then it was instantly rolled back because the pros were finishing every match about 12-11 and that was ‘unrealistic’.
Re: EA: Switch 2 Could Help Games Like FC And Madden "Find Real Energy"
@Anti-Matter Might be possible with Switch 2’s mouse controls! I’ve been enjoying Sims 2 again even minus the H&M content but Sims 1 is seriously difficult and far more limiting than I remember.
Re: Civilization VII Devs "Love" What Nintendo Is Doing With Switch 2 Joy-Con
Given the size of them, it’ll be fairly easy to use your armrest as a surface, I used to do that with my laptop.
Re: Opinion: Forget Themes, I Want A Switch 2 Start-Up Jingle
Wii/DSi/3DS/Wii U era ambience is completely unmatched. It still feels futuristic. Bring back those vibes!
Re: Sorry Romantics, "Bonkers" Dating Sim 'Date Everything' Has Been Delayed To June
There should be a market for queer media that isn’t insanely cringe.
Re: Harvest Moon's New "Cozy" Switch Bundle Revives Two 3DS Titles This Summer
Tale of Two Towns is so insanely clear of these two, now that could do with a Switch port. These two were not great but to be fair, large amounts of that was due to them running like molasses on 3DS.
Re: Celeste Dev Makes "Difficult Decision" To Cancel New Game Earthblade
Celeste is amazing and the pressure to top it just can be crushing at the indie level. I dunno how anyone delivers a follow-up project to something like that especially these days when expectations are so high.
Re: Nintendo Joins 'Fuji TV' Commercial Boycott Following Sex Scandal
Well that guy needs locked up. I have actually heard of SMAP too, mostly cause of KimuTaku.
Re: Nintendo: Switch 2's Backwards Compatibility Feature Is The "Best Direction" For Consumers
It was basically essential. And to be honest, that’s why I loved Nintendo growing up as our GameCube library was playable on Wii, which was then playable on Wii U. And of course DS games were playable on 3DS (had a DSi so no GBA games for me)
Re: Exclusive: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Gets Gorgeous New Trailer Ahead Of May Release
It sounds stupid but this series has been legitimately worse since the jump to Switch. Rune Factory 4 is the pinnacle of farming games and the more 3D gameplay just irritates and makes all facets of gameplay infinitely more annoying. It’s OK for games to remain top down, we don’t need to make every single series a third person behind the shoulder game. Stick to your strengths!!!
Re: Nintendo Asks Wii U Owners To Refrain From Using "Unauthorised" Online Services
One of the best things about the community is the love they pour into projects like Pretendo. The PS2 servers are brilliant too. It’s surely the greatest compliment that people still want to play your games.
Re: Poll: Are There Any Good Lord Of The Rings Games On Nintendo Consoles?
The Third Age and Return of the King on the Cube are bangers. Never really could get into the Lego game though, as much as I love Lego games.
Re: Nintendo Breaks Silence On 'Switch 2' Image And Video Leaks
Yep it’s real. Nintendo wouldn’t even respond if it wasn’t.
Re: 'Switch 2' Ergonomic Grip Case Surfaces On Amazon
I would have liked actual triggers on the Joy-Cons personally.
Re: Yes, We're Getting A Brand New Guitar Hero Controller For Wii In 2025
I have both a Wii and PS3 Les Paul as well as a Wii World Tour guitar. The PS3 one is infinitely easier to connect to PC but the Wii discs are where I played the games first so I have a lot of nostalgia for these controllers with the big Wiimote window.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds Another Donkey Kong Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
I played this for the first time a couple months back and enjoyed it for the most part. Bit crazy difficult in places and not as good as the first two but still a solid game. Soundtrack’s decent too.
Re: Feature: 'POCA!' Is A Game Boy Camera Photobook Adventure & A Heartfelt Homage To 'Hip' Tanaka
Kelvingrove! Always nice to see local artists get a shout out, we have a rich history after all.
Re: Random: Mario Galaxy Returns Next Year In "The Biggest Super Mario Odyssey Mod Yet"
This looks brilliant. Also excited for Mario in the Multiverse. There’s a whole world of mods out there and some are genuinely brilliant.
Re: Legend Of Heroes: Trails In The Sky Remake Lands On Switch Fall 2025
@Daniel36 I lost my last shred of patience when the cat that had been in 3 whole games suddenly became a catgirl with feelings for the protagonist. Baffling.
Re: Atlus Lead Explains Why Persona Protagonists Are High School Males
This is where it would be very nice to have a female writer on staff, but we just get male opinions written into articles like this instead. I’m astounded that it’s not been addressed.
Re: Legend Of Heroes: Trails In The Sky Remake Lands On Switch Fall 2025
Wow they’ve completely stripped the soul from it. I get they want to homogenise the series but Sky’s a time capsule for a certain era of anime visuals which has aged really well. If they ‘update’ the script with the modern Trails writers it’ll end up an embarassing goonfest too, Cold Steel is such a colossal drop in quality.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds A Huge Zelda Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
@Jprhino84 Apparently it’s worthy of being removed by mods anyway. So any genuine discussion is over.