The Steam Deck and other PC handhelds should be used as examples of the power examples of what the Switch 2 has. But again the media is playing the same game with Xbox and the downplay of what the Series S and Series X and even the One X could do.
No one outside the fanboy world is underestimating it, and that includes the casual gamers who know nothing. The media including digital foundry are underestimating the console. Still using PS4/Xbox One has baseline power example. I feel like the media is playing with the minds of the causal gamers in thinking that the Switch is using old technology when clearly it's not.
Look I can understand charging what they are charging for physical games due to the global economy I think a lot of people would be okay with that if that were the case but to charge $80 for a digital format is greedy within itself.
I don't understand how people on here are okay with this. I simply do not understand. People should be in an uproar over this and the many things Nintendo is doing
@RaTheGrey Unless they do a free upgrade then it's acceptable to do so. But if they are going to do what PlayStation does with their games and charge $10 to upgrade if you already have the game already then yeah I would feel ripped off. I have a feeling Nintendo will do that.
I hate how Nintendo abandoned it so quickly in its lifetime. They should have kept the updates going for at least three years. New Horizons is the reason why so many people purchased the Nintendo Switch during the Covid-19 pandemic. They should have kept that momentum.
@UltimateOtaku91 That's my thinking too, I suspect American markets going up but it would be odd to do it for European markets and maybe the Japanese market but then again a few months ago the PS5 had to be raised a couple yens due to inflation and whatnot from the Japanese market.
I suspected it would be around $400, but anything higher will overkill the system for a short period of time. Yeah, you can use the excuse of the global economy, but if the system doesn't have the games it needs, the power, marketing, and basic functions that people have been asking for, Nintendo is in deep trouble. I don't know I'm starting to get worried.
Knowing Hollywood the movie would be made in live-action. Honestly, I'm glad they never did the movie or had it approved. Having the movie live-action would be terrible. I would rather it be animated/CGI made.
I don't understand why would they even port the game to the Nintendo Switch when the Switch 2 is around the corner. Does this mean the Switch 2 won't be coming out this summer and it will come out in early-to-late fall or early winter? --- I hope this doesn't happen with the Switch 2.
There are several reasons why it's impossible to assume the Nintendo Switch 2 will automatically "sell like hotcakes" in its first quarter, even if analysts predict it. While Nintendo has a strong track record, the current market conditions introduce significant uncertainty. Here’s why:
1. Economic Uncertainty & Consumer Spending
Global inflation and economic instability have made consumers more cautious about discretionary spending. If the Switch 2 launches at a higher price point, buyers may hesitate, especially with competing gaming options and budget constraints.
2. Market Saturation & Brand Fatigue
The original Nintendo Switch has sold over 130 million units, meaning a large portion of the target audience already owns one. If the Switch 2 isn’t a significant leap forward or doesn’t offer compelling exclusives, many may wait rather than upgrade immediately.
3. Competition from Sony, Microsoft & PC Gaming
The PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S are still in their prime, with strong game libraries and price drops making them more appealing. Additionally, handheld gaming PCs like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally have carved out a niche, potentially drawing away Nintendo's audience.
4. Potential Supply Chain Issues
Even if demand is high, supply chain disruptions (which have affected gaming hardware in the past) could limit availability. If Nintendo can't meet demand, sales numbers might not reflect actual interest.
Conclusion: A Strong Start Isn’t Guaranteed
While Nintendo has a dedicated fanbase, external market factors and competition make it risky to assume the Switch 2 will instantly sell at record-breaking levels. It all depends on pricing, game lineup, marketing strategy, and global economic conditions.
Like I said on Twitter and most people refuse to acknowledge is that OLED would make the device more expensive. Even Valve acknowledges this when they first released the Steam Deck. Plus most PC handhelds are not even OLED and most OLED displays are beyond $500 and I think for right now Nintendo wants to cut corners and keep the device below $500. Maybe a year down the line they will do what Valve did and release the OLED console later on. But I do not see OLED being the first option in release. But then again how do we know what screen type it is when the console is not fully released? Going based on rumors is not helpful.
I haven't been on this website in years but I wanted to chime in on this debate. For me, it would have to depend on how big of an upgrade it is. That includes storage space, how powerful it is, what type of features it has, and the games that are coming for the system on launch day. But honestly, Nintendo will have a hard time with it if they are priced at $500 if the storage space isn't at least 500 GB. Anything less would be a disaster. There are many things I could see go right and wrong with the next system. My only worry is the storage space it would have. But then again if Valve can get away with selling the Steam Deck starting at $400 with only 64 GB of storage. I won't be surprised if Nintendo did something like that.
I'm only a couple of hours in and it's better than what I expected, I voted a 9 but it could change based on me playing it more, it feels different than the first one.
The 3DS has also gotten me through the toughest times in my life, even though I could not fully enjoy it due to reasons, I enjoyed the heck out of it and I'm very sad Nintendo is shutting it down. I wish Nintendo did what Xbox does with their game preservation. Hopefully, their next-gen system allows us to download the games we have bought from previous consoles. Game preservation is key.
I stopped reading when I read that the NX needs a touch-screen and backwards compatibility for Wii U. For starters yes it needs something unique but to bring back a touch-screen controller for the NX is basically asking Nintendo to fail or make another Wii U system. Nintendo needs to get away from touch-screen gimmicks and make a regular controller. As for backwards compatibility of the Wii U. Nintendo needs to step away from that and make a powerful system with an X86 processing unit. How pathetic are you fanboys.
It was an interesting read it defiantly explained a lot of what Nintendo has in store for the future. I think Nintendo is going forward to the right path but only time will tell. Finally no Wii name on there console. I was kind of hoping they would keep the Nintendo NX name but that's just a Codename.
I agree, it is the final nail in the coffin. Or it's already dead. The Wii U has no games the only game it has is Nintendo games and some indie games. The main games that were suppose to come out in 2015 is delayed. Zelda and now Starfox. If Nintendo want's to stay on top. Then they need to do things right for the Nintendo NX but seeing all those patents makes it seems that they going once they are going a step backwards instead of going forward.
I think it's pathetic that people not Nintendo have to make such a device because Nintendo themselves don't know how to make a proper data system for these toys.
You can't even go out without knowing your going to die....Thank you God the authorized caught them before they killed or hurt people...One of many reasons I rather stay home.
People bashing on Nintendo don't know nothing about how companies work especially if it's a big company like Nintendo. Once you get hired you are asked to sign a disclosurer that states that you are not authorized to speak about a company good or bad under any circumstances. But I do feel bad that he lost his job. To the point. It was a bad judgment call and he paid for his action. I do wish him the best.
It took 3 years for Nintendo to figure that out? Seriously you guys don't surprise me at ALL. I've always said that Nintendo could of done wonders with the game-pad. But unfortunately they themselves didn't know what to do with the Wii U. Like some people here said they should of sold it separate and just added the Pro Controller. We'll see in 2016 if they learned there lessons.
I think it's garbage... Nintendo will never change.. I have a bad feeling that the NX will be just a game console not a social community like Xbox or PlayStation or Steam.
Well that rumor that pop-up a few months ago that AMD will provide a new CPU/GPU. Plus they did mention 2016 is when a new console is going to be released and the one who's coming out is Nintendo. No one else other then Nintendo is going to release a console...Not unless a new Android console is coming out but by then they would of released it or announced it during E3.
I know this isn't the time but I have to say this. The last thing he heard from us was that we hated this year's E3. The fact that he heard that makes me feel like complete crap. I'm very speechless on this news....He basically made our childhood if you think about it. For those who are 21 years and below. May he rest in peace.
Just found out about his death. He made my childhood and he made me what I am today..A gamer. Its really unfortunate to hear about this. May he rest in peace.
What the hell makes this random guy so damn creditable....I simply can't not comply on how this guy is damn creditable....Yeah he made some prediction but anyone could of figured that out. Sorry but I'm going to take a full bottle of salt and wait until 2016. Knowing Nintendo it will be true but it's better to wait...If it's in par with Xbox One. Then that's pretty damn good.
This makes me cringe like crazy. If they say what its true. If they are producing the console this year & they expect to sell by Summer of 2016. They must be crazy. There’s no way a console is going to sell well during the summer. When everyone is short on money. My guess is that we could expect a Nintendo Direct by February Or close to April and it would be stupid if they release it by summer. They need to show it off during E3. Which is a bit obvious. I don’t know we just have to wait. If this is true. Then I will have to hold off on buying an Xbox One…..man this makes me cringe.
Basically Nintendo is Disney of the gaming industry. Yet people are way to naive to understand that or better yet see that. So they bash on Nintendo because they aren't like Sony & Microsoft. Or better yet, Sony because remember guys "Greatness Awaits" right?
How many topics are you guys going to do on this? Anyways they don't bother me, it's actually pretty damn cool to have but the fact that they are used for DLC items are stupid.
A Indie studio can make a game run up to 60fps with 720p while the Devs for Project Cars can't even make there game run on the Wii U....Hmmm, something's wrong here.
Really Nintendo, you do this? All together if you buy them all is going to be at least $241 then to top everything off you make a mini game that going to cost $30. That is pathetic. You guys should of done it different where it's an add-on to Animal Crossing: New Leaf. Shame on Nintendo.
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Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
The Steam Deck and other PC handhelds should be used as examples of the power examples of what the Switch 2 has. But again the media is playing the same game with Xbox and the downplay of what the Series S and Series X and even the One X could do.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
No one outside the fanboy world is underestimating it, and that includes the casual gamers who know nothing. The media including digital foundry are underestimating the console. Still using PS4/Xbox One has baseline power example. I feel like the media is playing with the minds of the causal gamers in thinking that the Switch is using old technology when clearly it's not.
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
@mattesdude This the problem on why companies get away with it because of the apologist
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
Look I can understand charging what they are charging for physical games due to the global economy I think a lot of people would be okay with that if that were the case but to charge $80 for a digital format is greedy within itself.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
I don't understand how people on here are okay with this. I simply do not understand. People should be in an uproar over this and the many things Nintendo is doing
Re: Anniversary: No, There's Absolutely No Way In Hell Animal Crossing: New Horizons Is Five Today
@Wisestfool I hope Nintendo takes their games seriously regarding longevity on some of their games.
Re: Plants vs. Zombies Looks Set To Be Revived And 'Reloaded' On Switch
@Slobbert
What?
https://www.ea.com/ea-studios/popcap
Re: Plants vs. Zombies Looks Set To Be Revived And 'Reloaded' On Switch
EA ruined PopCap and the franchise itself. I wish EA would let PopCap go again and redo the game and reboot it.
Re: A Hidden 60fps Mode In Xenoblade Chronicles X Gives Us Hope For A Switch 2 Upgrade
@RaTheGrey Unless they do a free upgrade then it's acceptable to do so. But if they are going to do what PlayStation does with their games and charge $10 to upgrade if you already have the game already then yeah I would feel ripped off. I have a feeling Nintendo will do that.
Re: Anniversary: No, There's Absolutely No Way In Hell Animal Crossing: New Horizons Is Five Today
I hate how Nintendo abandoned it so quickly in its lifetime. They should have kept the updates going for at least three years. New Horizons is the reason why so many people purchased the Nintendo Switch during the Covid-19 pandemic. They should have kept that momentum.
Re: Switch 2 Predicted To Cost "$400 Or More"
@UltimateOtaku91 That's my thinking too, I suspect American markets going up but it would be odd to do it for European markets and maybe the Japanese market but then again a few months ago the PS5 had to be raised a couple yens due to inflation and whatnot from the Japanese market.
Re: Switch 2 Predicted To Cost "$400 Or More"
I suspected it would be around $400, but anything higher will overkill the system for a short period of time. Yeah, you can use the excuse of the global economy, but if the system doesn't have the games it needs, the power, marketing, and basic functions that people have been asking for, Nintendo is in deep trouble. I don't know I'm starting to get worried.
Re: New Nintendo Patent Hints At Improved Voice Chat On Switch 2
Welcome to the 21st century Nintendo!! It took you 30 years to adapt to the times.
Re: "The Answer Was Always No" - Ex-Nintendo Employee On Zelda Movie Pitches
Knowing Hollywood the movie would be made in live-action. Honestly, I'm glad they never did the movie or had it approved. Having the movie live-action would be terrible. I would rather it be animated/CGI made.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 Has Been Butchered For The Switch Remake
I don't understand why would they even port the game to the Nintendo Switch when the Switch 2 is around the corner. Does this mean the Switch 2 won't be coming out this summer and it will come out in early-to-late fall or early winter? --- I hope this doesn't happen with the Switch 2.
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
This is what I think Nintendo would do if they continued the Nintendo DS lineup. Who knows maybe the next-gen console will be entirely different.
Re: Analyst Expects Switch 2 To Sell Like Hot Cakes In Its First Quarter
There are several reasons why it's impossible to assume the Nintendo Switch 2 will automatically "sell like hotcakes" in its first quarter, even if analysts predict it. While Nintendo has a strong track record, the current market conditions introduce significant uncertainty. Here’s why:
1. Economic Uncertainty & Consumer Spending
Global inflation and economic instability have made consumers more cautious about discretionary spending. If the Switch 2 launches at a higher price point, buyers may hesitate, especially with competing gaming options and budget constraints.
2. Market Saturation & Brand Fatigue
The original Nintendo Switch has sold over 130 million units, meaning a large portion of the target audience already owns one. If the Switch 2 isn’t a significant leap forward or doesn’t offer compelling exclusives, many may wait rather than upgrade immediately.
3. Competition from Sony, Microsoft & PC Gaming
The PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S are still in their prime, with strong game libraries and price drops making them more appealing. Additionally, handheld gaming PCs like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally have carved out a niche, potentially drawing away Nintendo's audience.
4. Potential Supply Chain Issues
Even if demand is high, supply chain disruptions (which have affected gaming hardware in the past) could limit availability. If Nintendo can't meet demand, sales numbers might not reflect actual interest.
Conclusion: A Strong Start Isn’t Guaranteed
While Nintendo has a dedicated fanbase, external market factors and competition make it risky to assume the Switch 2 will instantly sell at record-breaking levels. It all depends on pricing, game lineup, marketing strategy, and global economic conditions.
Re: Talking Point: Why An LCD Screen Isn't The End Of The World For Switch 2
Like I said on Twitter and most people refuse to acknowledge is that OLED would make the device more expensive. Even Valve acknowledges this when they first released the Steam Deck. Plus most PC handhelds are not even OLED and most OLED displays are beyond $500 and I think for right now Nintendo wants to cut corners and keep the device below $500. Maybe a year down the line they will do what Valve did and release the OLED console later on. But I do not see OLED being the first option in release. But then again how do we know what screen type it is when the console is not fully released? Going based on rumors is not helpful.
Re: Final Fantasy XIV Online Director Reiterates Interest In A Nintendo Release
Incoming Nintendo Switch 2 release coming soonish.
Re: Talking Point: Would $499 Be Too Much For 'Switch 2'?
I haven't been on this website in years but I wanted to chime in on this debate. For me, it would have to depend on how big of an upgrade it is. That includes storage space, how powerful it is, what type of features it has, and the games that are coming for the system on launch day. But honestly, Nintendo will have a hard time with it if they are priced at $500 if the storage space isn't at least 500 GB. Anything less would be a disaster. There are many things I could see go right and wrong with the next system. My only worry is the storage space it would have. But then again if Valve can get away with selling the Steam Deck starting at $400 with only 64 GB of storage. I won't be surprised if Nintendo did something like that.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Octopath Traveler II?
I'm only a couple of hours in and it's better than what I expected, I voted a 9 but it could change based on me playing it more, it feels different than the first one.
Re: Soapbox: 3DS' Boundless Creativity Got Me, And Nintendo, Through Some Tough Times
The 3DS has also gotten me through the toughest times in my life, even though I could not fully enjoy it due to reasons, I enjoyed the heck out of it and I'm very sad Nintendo is shutting it down. I wish Nintendo did what Xbox does with their game preservation. Hopefully, their next-gen system allows us to download the games we have bought from previous consoles. Game preservation is key.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Official MAR10 Day Switch Console Bundle
I would have expected it to be the OLED model, I guess they are trying to offset their older model.
Re: Feature: Enjoying The Journey - How Square Enix Learned From The Past For Octopath Traveler II
First time playing this franchise and I'm enjoying it so far. I did play this game on Gamepass but it was not enjoyable as this one.
Re: Soapbox: A Nintendo Fan's Hopes and Dreams for the NX
I stopped reading when I read that the NX needs a touch-screen and backwards compatibility for Wii U. For starters yes it needs something unique but to bring back a touch-screen controller for the NX is basically asking Nintendo to fail or make another Wii U system. Nintendo needs to get away from touch-screen gimmicks and make a regular controller. As for backwards compatibility of the Wii U. Nintendo needs to step away from that and make a powerful system with an X86 processing unit. How pathetic are you fanboys.
Re: NX Won't Be The Next Version Of Wii Or Wii U, Says Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima
It was an interesting read it defiantly explained a lot of what Nintendo has in store for the future. I think Nintendo is going forward to the right path but only time will tell. Finally no Wii name on there console. I was kind of hoping they would keep the Nintendo NX name but that's just a Codename.
Re: Talking Point: Star Fox Zero's Delay Could Be The Final Nail In The Wii U's Coffin
I agree, it is the final nail in the coffin. Or it's already dead. The Wii U has no games the only game it has is Nintendo games and some indie games. The main games that were suppose to come out in 2015 is delayed. Zelda and now Starfox. If Nintendo want's to stay on top. Then they need to do things right for the Nintendo NX but seeing all those patents makes it seems that they going once they are going a step backwards instead of going forward.
Re: Talking Point: The Argument For And Against amiibo-Cloning Tool Amiiqo
I think it's pathetic that people not Nintendo have to make such a device because Nintendo themselves don't know how to make a proper data system for these toys.
Re: Potential Massacre Averted At Pokémon World Championships
You can't even go out without knowing your going to die....Thank you God the authorized caught them before they killed or hurt people...One of many reasons I rather stay home.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Dismissal of Chris Pranger Highlights Issues With Company Culture
People bashing on Nintendo don't know nothing about how companies work especially if it's a big company like Nintendo. Once you get hired you are asked to sign a disclosurer that states that you are not authorized to speak about a company good or bad under any circumstances. But I do feel bad that he lost his job. To the point. It was a bad judgment call and he paid for his action. I do wish him the best.
Re: Nintendo: Wii U GamePad Is The Only Real Innovation This Console Cycle, But We Didn't Showcase It Well Enough
It took 3 years for Nintendo to figure that out? Seriously you guys don't surprise me at ALL. I've always said that Nintendo could of done wonders with the game-pad. But unfortunately they themselves didn't know what to do with the Wii U. Like some people here said they should of sold it separate and just added the Pro Controller. We'll see in 2016 if they learned there lessons.
Re: Crunchyroll Wii U App Can Now Be Used Without A Subscription
Xbox why aren't you doing this??
Re: Nintendo Explains Reasoning Behind Upcoming Miiverse Redesign
I think it's garbage... Nintendo will never change.. I have a bad feeling that the NX will be just a game console not a social community like Xbox or PlayStation or Steam.
Re: Speculation Grows That AMD Will Provide the Nintendo NX Processor
@Ichiban Seriously..Are you even trying to troll?
Re: Speculation Grows That AMD Will Provide the Nintendo NX Processor
Well that rumor that pop-up a few months ago that AMD will provide a new CPU/GPU. Plus they did mention 2016 is when a new console is going to be released and the one who's coming out is Nintendo. No one else other then Nintendo is going to release a console...Not unless a new Android console is coming out but by then they would of released it or announced it during E3.
Re: Sharing to Miiverse in Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer is a Breeze
They should add this feature to all the 3DS games.
Re: Obituary: Satoru Iwata
This is still shocking.... he seemed like he loved Nintendo so much...Very sad. Rest In Peace. Mr. Iwata.
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata Passes Away Aged 55
I know this isn't the time but I have to say this. The last thing he heard from us was that we hated this year's E3. The fact that he heard that makes me feel like complete crap. I'm very speechless on this news....He basically made our childhood if you think about it. For those who are 21 years and below. May he rest in peace.
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata Passes Away Aged 55
Just found out about his death. He made my childhood and he made me what I am today..A gamer. Its really unfortunate to hear about this. May he rest in peace.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Won't Be As Powerful As PlayStation 4
What the hell makes this random guy so damn creditable....I simply can't not comply on how this guy is damn creditable....Yeah he made some prediction but anyone could of figured that out. Sorry but I'm going to take a full bottle of salt and wait until 2016. Knowing Nintendo it will be true but it's better to wait...If it's in par with Xbox One. Then that's pretty damn good.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Shipping This Time Next Year, 20 Million Sales Targeted In First 12 Months
This makes me cringe like crazy. If they say what its true. If they are producing the console this year & they expect to sell by Summer of 2016. They must be crazy. There’s no way a console is going to sell well during the summer. When everyone is short on money. My guess is that we could expect a Nintendo Direct by February Or close to April and it would be stupid if they release it by summer. They need to show it off during E3. Which is a bit obvious. I don’t know we just have to wait. If this is true. Then I will have to hold off on buying an Xbox One…..man this makes me cringe.
Re: Nintendo Gets Tough With Miiverse Bans, and Some Users Aren't Exactly Pleased
Why are people or better yet kids getting mad at Miiverse? I think Miiverse is a joke just like Nintendo.
Re: Fans Are Creating A Brand-New Quest For The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time
Watch Nintendo take it down because they are bunch of dummies.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Approach is Often Peculiar, Yet That's An Enduring Strength
Basically Nintendo is Disney of the gaming industry. Yet people are way to naive to understand that or better yet see that. So they bash on Nintendo because they aren't like Sony & Microsoft. Or better yet, Sony because remember guys "Greatness Awaits" right?
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
How many topics are you guys going to do on this? Anyways they don't bother me, it's actually pretty damn cool to have but the fact that they are used for DLC items are stupid.
Re: FAST Racing NEO Details Finally Exit The Garage
A Indie studio can make a game run up to 60fps with 720p while the Devs for Project Cars can't even make there game run on the Wii U....Hmmm, something's wrong here.
Re: Despite the Rumours, Nintendo NX Will Not be Android Based
Ohh thank God this is not true but....big key word there no truth. Big key word...
Re: Minecraft Rival LEGO Worlds Released As Early-Access Download on Steam
Ok, this looks a hell of a lot better then Minecraft!!! Finally a game where you can actually do what you want. Seriously can't wait!!
Re: First Footage Emerges of Bandai Namco's Project Treasure on Wii U
Hmm, looks pretty decent but the fact that it's free-to-play is a no for me. The game should be a paid title.
Re: Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer, amiibo 3DS Portal and New Nintendo 3DS Hardware Dated for Japan
Really Nintendo, you do this? All together if you buy them all is going to be at least $241 then to top everything off you make a mini game that going to cost $30. That is pathetic. You guys should of done it different where it's an add-on to Animal Crossing: New Leaf. Shame on Nintendo.