Miiverse, Nintendo's bespoke social network, has been one of the company's most notable moves in this generation. Social networks are old hat now, of course, but with immediate access from games, screenshot sharing and the option to doodle drawings, it's proved a relatively popular app.
As it's web based it's also been updated regularly, with many tweaks that have improved the platform and others that have been less popular. The latest update has now outlined how moderation and suspensions will be tougher - if one user picks up a ban on a Wii U, in particular, every account on the system will be denied access.
It's not been particularly well received in some of the comments reacting to the update, with some complaining of over-zealous moderators or flawed thinking. Some examples are below.
You had the chance to make Miiverse a better site, but instead, you decided not to.
Have you thought about the families who share a Wii U and use Miiverse, each one with their own account, like other people said here?
Nintendo, have you?
And do you actually review the content of the reported posts before you delete them?
I doubt it, I really doubt it.
Are you serious? Admins constantly abuse their power and ban people they don't like. False bans from Miiverse are common. Creating another account allows us to get around that. This update is BY FAR the WORST update to EVER hit miiverse.
Let us know where you stand on this Miiverse change - but do so nicely. You don't want Miiverse mods getting word of your dissent...
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Every time something like this happens, a bunch of users try to "rebel" against Miiverse. It's not very difficult to avoid getting banned if you aren't being an immature troll.
Either everyone complains about how Miiverse needs to be moderated better, or everyone complains that Miiverse is being moderated.
The entitlement on display is mind boggling. I for one am glad this has been implemented on MiiVerse and wish other consoles would implement something similar.
I gave up on Miiverse after having a normal post deleted for no reason.
This is where I just become fully done with Miiverse and just stop using it. Nintendo and the admins have now recked the fun for me...
I have 353 posts to Miiverse and have never had a warning or a ban or had a comment deleted. It's because I'm so well behaved..
sometimes my children draw stuff on miiverse then it gets pulled down for " violating" the code of conduct. my kids are young and not offensive, so there's a good chance I'll be banned. The good news is, I really don't care!
I'm very happy with the update for many reasons. I'm tired of the trolls that haunt forums and communities, I just wish people would be mature.
Whilst this does prevent trolls from quickly creating another account, it also prevents users who have been unfairly banned from continuing to use Miiverse via a backup account.
The issue with more restrictions here is that the amount of oversight still remains the same. Bans, deletions etc still seem largely automated, and so typically the system isn't able to apply context or will issue bans where it shouldn't. If Nintendo bothered to police Miiverse properly, users would be more likely to accept more restrictions.
I've used Miiverse since day one and have been banned 2 or 3 times due to false claims and had at least 20 deletions, some of which made no sense (e.g - mentioning the word hacking when talking about Watch Dogs)
@Sonic9009
If that is your attitude, then you are likely part of the problem that Nintendo is trying to fix. We won't miss you!
Good. I'm so sick of some obnoxious troll popping right back up after a ban. Also can someone explain why it is so popular to be a jerk on the internet? How hard is it to be civil? sigh I know I know... penny arcade explained this long ago but still...
They probably got banned for a reason...
I have never had an issue with warnings or bans even when speaking my opinion on Starfox and the Nintendo E3 direct. Seriously people, language has everything to do with it. Don't curse and voice your opinion being respectful of others and you will have no issues but if you post like you would on IGN forums well, I guess one would get what is expected...
@Phantom_R I'm not an immature troll, yet I've been banned multiple times; you clearly don't use Miiverse...
@Mus1cLov3r I use Miiverse very often. My posts just don't feature swears or reproductive organs.
@gspro15198 I'm not hugely active on Miiverse, I haven't been on it for a while, but I generally agree with you. It's not hard to avoid bans, surely!
@garthvader I have a completely "E for Everyone" vocabulary, but I've been banned more than once—language has nothing to do with it.
<blockquote>False bans from Miiverse are common. Creating another account allows us to get around that.</blockquote>
So...this person thinks that exploiting loopholes in the Code of Conduct is okay? If you care so much, why not contact Nintendo? Why are you being sneaky?
@Phantom_R Neither do mine...
As someone who views Miiverse on a near daily basis; this is overall good, though it's not without its flaws. I post on occasion and at most got a warning that was "spoilers"-related. Otherwise; my experience has been smooth.
rip in piece "Popular" users
This is great. I'd rather have an entire WiiU get banned then deal with bad posts with people trying to push the rules.
I've posted a ton, never been warned or banned. Follow the rules, this isn't an issue.
I have been using Miiverse regularly since day one and haven't had any problems with bans. Maybe it's because I know how to behave on there?!
What concerns me more is that this is a step TOWARDS accounts tied to systems, not AWAY from it :/
@Dr_Awkward
I didn't really make that too specific to be honest, i'm not part of the problem. I hate trolls and people that violate the code of conduct. I'm constantly getting falsely reported and before I know it, I won't even be able to use a backup account to access Miiverse. I just don't really like this new way of banning people.
@BLP's: That's their problem. Even if it was impossible, it doesn't mean that the current system is perfect and beyond criticism...and that for all the good they do, these restrictions will also make 'false bans' feel all the more unjust due to the inability to use another account or even properly appeal your innocence.
I think, for the most part, that most people get banned from spoilers and phrasing. What the Big N needs is real moderators who will listen to people, specifically in the NA region.
Most complainers are the ones who abuse the flaw in the banning system to begin with, they have no one to blame but themselves.
Reason # 7352 why Nintendo hates success. I'm all for the Miiverse being a safe and happy place, free of vile hatred. In fact that's one of the things I love most about their community as opposed to Sony and Microsoft. But it's HOW they go about it that sucks. They are that parent that despite all their good intentions, just doesn't get it and never will, and the children suffer oh my how they suffer. Won't someone please think of the children!!!
@Ryu_Niiyama Internet anonymity is a double-edged sword, my friend. On one hand, it protects innocent people from having their identities violated, so they can browse semi-securely. On the other, since your activity is less likely to be tied to you in real life, it can give some people the impression that they can flex the rules more than normal.
And some people just like to watch the world burn...
All the people defending this saying "oh they deserved it". But I know people who have abusive siblings that would gladly perma themselves on purpose in order to lock the console. This is too easily exploitable.
Is the miiverse still even used?
As long as Nintendo doesn't ban me for saying, "I HOPE YOU LOSE!" on the "Cheer on for Wii Fit Trainer page", then I'm cool with it.
I think people need to remember that Nintendo is a business & miiverse is a cost. Sure people have to buy a Nintendo system to gain the ability to post there but after that it's free. Plus more time spent on miiverse is less time gaming. I think that's why Nintendo have slowly "degraded" the miiverse experience over time, trying to limit user's use on it.
@Savino @ikki5 Yes Miiverse is doing great
Lol wow. I'm so done with Nintendo right now. This is a really horrible year for Nintendo... I don't even use Miiverse anymore. I stopped using it because I would get banned all the time for posting regular posts. Lol sorry to be a troll, but now I purposely try to get banned because idgaf anymore haha
Next can they please start banning the 5yr old validation posts of "Yeah! this if you agree with ________"
While I see where Nintendo is coming from I'm afraid for families.
Wanna know whats funny? Go to the Conception 2 or DxD communities. Both games feature almost naked girls and you can share in game pictures. So why is it we can share raunchy screenshots of highly detailed ecchi-crap, but as soon as a fan drawing has a centimeter of cleavage the admins go crazy?
I just looked at that post onMiiverse myself. They've stopped people replying to it too.
Nintendo can't do anything right by their fans lately.
@garthvader Sorry to hear that. You should contact them with the contents of your post.
Wow. That's... rather bold.
@manu0 well, I guess that's good to know. I don't think I've gone on the Miiverse if over a year and a half now because it is just pointless to me.
@dizzy_boy They didn't stop them, there's always been a 1000 comment limit.
@ikki5 I love Miiverse
I've posted maybe 150 times to miiverse and just had one post deleted due to "Spoilers" (it was a picture of the ending credits of a game). Otherwise NOTHING has happened. I haven't trolled at all, however, so maybe that's why.
Frankly this should of been implemented awhile ago. Nintendo isn't perfect and there is no way to moderate miiverse without thousands of admins for millions of users. Hence the automated process. Those who complain about the whole shared Wii U thing, then blame your family member who caused it. Be it inadvertently or on purpose. The rules are clearly stated. As I said before not a perfect system but better than nothing. On a side note, that Je suis miiverse thing is soooo disrespectful to the original hashtag. using it for something so trivial as miiverse. C'mon people.
I've been on Miiverse since day one on the 3DS and despite dealing with some trolls (including some guy who tried to impersonate me) I've never been banned and have had only a handful of posts moderated. If you steer clear of using profanity and avoid getting involved with the wrong crowds (I'm looking at you Sub Wars clans) you really shouldn't have any problems.
It's for the best, really.
The rules and reg of Miiverse aren't exactly hard to follow. Just don't be a bother, and you'll be fine.
I've never been flagged yet on Miiverse, so I don't really know how other people are doing so. It doesn't seem easy to get banned there.
Nintendo threw a house party called "Wii U" but instead of adding party favours and games and music and such, they spend the entire time making sure everyone uses a coaster for their drink. Please understand
@manu0 Well, if it actually contributed to stuff, I think it would be great but there is really no meat to it as it is not optimized for discussions or anything. Just a "here's what I did" that 20 people are see and 100 people just blow over. You may get lucky actually get people "yeahing" your post but there is no meat to the service.
@Donjwolf
I got flagged for posting a screenshot from the 3rd level in world two of Super Mario Bros. U once because it did not contain spoilers which i found odd. I also got flag once for posting a screenshot of the Mother Brain without having the missiles item on Super Metroid without spoilers... though that one is understandable.
Miiverse is messed up in general, including both the people who use it and the mods.
Understandable, I'll give some people I know a heads up but I don't think I know anyone this would give trouble too.
I have no problems on Miiverse other than using the word "after".
As I'm from Germany I'm not allowed to write this word until I change it into "aftr" or something else.
"After" isn't even a swear word in Germany. It's used by doctors to describe a peculiar part of the body. It's totally uncommon. Gets annoying to change my posts most of the time because of this...
I've been using miiversd for over a year and a half and getting false banned is more common than people realize. I follow the really popular users and they never drew anything wrong, such as Mario's cap yet the admins take it down, ban them and do not really allow for an appeal.
Yet we see in the Support ZSS community all these male wieners and yet they stay there just fine. So having good behavior isn't a foolproof tactic.
I'm rather unknown and I got taken down for innocent posts I made over a year ago.
@SKTTR
LOL, I just had to look up what after" mean in German "after" (ha ha ) you told us that.
@ikki5 I have (pretty long) discussions with Miiverse friends all the time there. Other times I just ask questions when I'm stuck in a game (sure, I could just check on gamefaqs, but I think it's more fun on Miiverse).
What is a problem for me is not seeing the person's age you're chatting with. I don't really feel comfortable chatting with minors.
Well that's good. Bans didn't do anything before, users would just make a new account.
Hopefully this will lead people to be more careful with what they post.
@SKTTR Lol I never had that problem.
I would say to use bots to regulate text posts and to hand out alerts to either change the post or delete it.
I love seeing everyone's awesome artwork (especially the Splatoon lobby, sooo much Zoidberg & Spongebob!)
But apart from that it seems my stick figures & random gibberish are too much for miiverse to handle. So I rarely bother with it anymore, apart from the occasional screenshot.
Too strict if you ask me
Nintendo is too controlling with their public image for any of their social media to be any fun to use. Swapnote was the exception, and they gutted that.
I like it. Seriously don't know why some people create/ use another account just to repeat and/or complain the same thing that got them banned in the first place. It's like those pointless revolts on miiverse to show how mature we are but in reality it showed how immature those people can be and make those type of actions even more necessity.
I always imagine if a person have been mistakenly banned, the best option would be the contact support/admin directly and handle it in a mature manner (nintendo and every other social site), instead of crying and leading a rebellion on social media.
I think Miiverse would do better in hiring more mods to have a better view on what actually happens.
The automated post removal system is easily abused by butthurt whiners and whiteknights, all the while people get increasingly creative in circumventing the violations. Not only that, but it entirely relies on users reporting violations, which doesn't happen on a reliable base at all.
It's a weird thing with Miiverse. I find the established rules perfectly fine for a gaming-focused forum, but most other people are too used to the freedom available on most other sites without understanding how many kids are online on Miiverse by now.
That said, I only got in trouble for encouraging others to report repeated sahoutouts to LP'ers as "Advertisement/Spam", and that trouble came from rabid fanboys, not mods.
@hYdeks Actually, Arkham Origins is a Teen game. And refusing to play on a company's console because "They're too strict" is highly immature—stop pouting.
It's OK guys, i found a workaround so you're whole family won't be banned.
Stop trolling.
This really sucks, but to be honest, I prefer this over tons of phallic images on the Miiverse stage in smash Bros. That was so ridiculous that I felt like I couldn't play that stage at all with my younger siblings, which is just sad for families with little kids and that expecting a safe, clean game.
I like the enforcement because there are a few d@!ks out there that are offensive and do spoil things for the lot of us. I am in full support of Nintendo on this issue of restrictions and I say that even in light of getting in trouble myself for posting spoiler pictures which got me a message from the administrators. As for those complaining about sharing systems with children I suggest getting your own system. I own two Wii U's and have my NNID linked to my Wii U and 3DS and everyone else's is linked to the other system, this avoids problems with administrator restrictions for all of us. But as it is I caution my children against posting spoilers or rude comments on the Miiverse. I tell them that if what they post they wouldn't say to some one face to face then they shouldn't post it. But at the root of the complaints posted about the enforcement by Nintendo on the Miiverse are either immature adults or kids, anyone who is responsible and respectful should agree with Nintendo's decision governing the aforementioned issue. To quote Aldous Huxley here "how much freedom do you need" and why?
@ultraraichu Nintendo's contact team or whatever—in my experience—takes a week or two to respond; the regular Miiverse ban lasts for 2 weeks. Contacting them would be pointless, really...
@Xilef >implies that trolling is the only way to get banned
Boy, are you wrong...
I try my best not to get admin warnings, and I have sometimes tried to test the admins for fun, but the administration is seriously messed up. They delete stuff that doesn't even go against the Code of Conduct. A big thing is if you say you're younger than you actually are. I once made one comment like that, which was obviously a joke- the customer service representative I spoke to could tell it clearly was- but they deleted it without telling me why. Later, my account was unusable, and they just said "This Nintendo Network ID cannot be used". They ended up deleting my account without my permission. All my games and all my drawings that I spent so much time on were lost. I was able to get the games back thanks to customer service, but still. That shouldn't happen in the first place.
@gspro15198 You would have fit in perfectly during 1940's Berlin.
Me and my friends just don't use Miiverse, plain and simple.
@Xilef
Except we don't do that or anything rude and we get banned anyway.
This is exactly what we've been trying to say is that the badmins will take down the most innocent posts and put people under massive scrutiny whereas users that draw phallic objects on the support zss go by freely. More people can see that on the miiverse stage.
They also change their minds about a post and take down ones that were ok 3 years ago.
If one realizes how bad a post is due to typos or errors and deletes it immediately, mods still write it down as a violation.
How does NLife moderate comments?
@night hahahahahahahahaha wow. really? I'm so glad Godwin's law is a thing as I've just automatically won this argument.
I wish people that ask for Shrek would get a permanent ban
The amount of people who actually think this is ok, that Nintendo actually really looks into the problems, and that all of the bans are fair and justified is ludicrous.
But yeah, it's really disgusting how so many people think that "Don't like it, don't do anything wrong", is a valid response. That's horribly ignorant and completely looking the other way, instead of considering the real problem for longer than 5 seconds.
What about the people that didn't do anything wrong and get banned anyway? What about the people who were falsely reported by someone else in order to abuse the system? Let me reminds you this is the SAME COMPANY that bans you in Smash Bros for targeting a single player.
And you're defending them for this?
You people are stupid. Intentionally, willfully, obstinately stupid.
I've gotten a post taken down and wasn't even told which one, nor was I given a reason. Again, I don't swear, I don't draw dirty pictures, I don't do any of that junk.
It was also made four months prior so I had no memory as to what it was
hahaha, i love it! Look, there are a ton of people that want to communicate, and some are kids. I think its super respectful of Nintendo. Even if I do post something normal and it gets taken down, whatever, its not like I wrote a novel or something
hahaha, i love it! Look, there are a ton of people that want to communicate, and some are kids. I think its super respectful of Nintendo. Even if I do post something normal and it gets taken down, whatever, its not like I wrote a novel or something
Use Miiverse to talk about games, don't act inappropriate, don't troll, don't hate on a game.
You'll have no problems.
I was on Miiverse at the start (haven't been on for a long while) I stopped after getting flagged for supposedly breaking the rules. I was having a conflab with another user about the number of idiots on the smash forums (before it was released btw). I said something like "yeah m8. It's about time we had an adults forum. I can't be doing with the number of idiots on here sometimes lol" NO swearing or anything. It was utter ridiculous lmao... It's also easy for people to report your posts or you for no reason. Time there was an adults room!
@LUIGITORNADO
Does getting taken down for drawing a pikachu count as unacceptable?
Unlike most Nintendo fans I don't like being locked in a cage, so I don't really use Miiverse despite hyping for it before it released. That moderating stuff is fine in theory and all, but it seems to be abused more often than not.
Honestly the only thing I really liked about Miiverse was the picture of the chick with the fork.
Another big problem with it is that the "almighty" code of conduct is extremely vague. They keep interpreting them differently each time
I kind of dislike Miiverse nowadays and I haven't been on there since Sakurai stopped posting Super Smash Bros. pics. They have the rules so strict that it's hard to communicate with fellow gamers without getting banned. I think one of the major culprits is Pokemon. It's great to communicate with other trainers on Miiverse but that's pretty much where the fun ends. If you want to trade or battle someone you have to use another service to communicate because of the rules against posting friend codes. Being able to trade and battle with trainers from Miiverse would make my gaming experience so much better but Nintendo has it on lockdown.
Plus the character limit is annoying.
Note: I've been warned for posting my friend code once (on the Pokemon page). I have not been banned yet.
I feel like Miiverse will die like N-Sider.
I never really liked the types of people on Miiverse, anyway.
At least there's the Miiverse fansite called Le Miiverse Resource...
Tone it down please-Morpheel
@night ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
wombo combo
@Phantom_R Spoken by someone who hasn't been adminned themselves? You're pretty comfy in your self righteous house on the hill.
Enjoy your time on MiiVerse until you get banned for no reason and then realize Nintendo does not care about you in the slightest.
Want to test it out? Why not post your miiverse handle in this thread and request for people to report you for no reason. It would take less than a month for you to be perma-banned.
And by the way, my point still stands. And i'm still right. Just so we're perfectly clear.
If you're fine with what Nintendo is doing here, you're inherently bowing to a fascist line of thinking, where all bans are final, no appeals, no trials, no logic, no research, all accounts are banned, whether guilty or innocent. too bad, live with it, whether you did anything right or wrong, sucks to be you, goodbye forever.
Nintendo is refusing to fix any problem or take any steps aside from imposing a marshal law state and doing nothing else. Nintendo's logic is inherently unfair and wrong here, and you're willfully ignorant if you support it.
The metaphor I used was apt.
Oh the drama.
People just need to know that you can't mess around on Miiverse. It's not Reddit, it's not 4chan, it's not any other type of social networking. They're very strict. People just get upset with that. Use it as it was intended TBH.
Edit: @night you sound insufferable. Good luck on Miiverse.
@Phantom_R again, the words of an immature mind. Something that applies to you, does not apply to all.
I would guess that many who are banned deserve it, but those who are done so by overzealous admins feeding the reporting trolls have no way to defend themselves or over turn incorrect judgement.
Your statements only show your lack of experience of ability to listen to others. Suggesting that anyone who is banned deserves it? Unjustifiable authority loves easily manipulated people like you. Carry on.
The biggest problem is not all the rules but that it's so easy to get banned because of how weirdly modded the service is.
And that is how I "win" an "argument".
Not by playing my "Godwin's Law" card in attack mode, sending your logic card to the graveyard, or something childish, like this is some game of Yu-Gi-Oh.
By actually explaining the situation and backing up my point with a definitive statement based on the situation, and not giving myself a burger king crown and declaring I won by default. Take notes.
@Samurairu
It's about half and half as to whether you deserved it or not.
@night Unfortunately all we can do is not use MiiVerse and even more unfortunately, this further skews the community with people who don't get it until they are also banned.
I'm annoyed by this topic because as you can probably guess, I was banned. I called and emailed Nintendo for the entire 2 weeks and got no where except further insulted.
Be careful of who you friend is one piece of advice. I discovered a few of my 'friends' were troll reporting me for fun. I guess they have exciting lives. I've also resorted to keeping in touch with the people I really have fun with, through email etc.
I also delete older posts I've made so they can't be troll reported by people with nothing better to do.
@Mona-Reggie Wow, if that's your experience, that's so sad.
I guess I'm the other half! lol!
@Samurairu
Yeah, I got taken down once for telling someone to leave me alone
It's unfortunate that it has come to this and I'm not sure about how the mods are because never had a banned post before, but considering all the trolls and tasteless drawings, yes I have seen them, I'm glad they are really cracking down. It is a bit unfortunate if you are family with someone who gets you banned as well, but ppeople of all ages use miiverse and they deserve to be respected and experience a nice community.
Some of the MiiVerse rules are just bizarre.
We all know Nintendo makes it as difficult as possible to make friends outside of people you know in real life.
In animal crossing for example, I made a custom design that has my friend code in it, tell people to visit my dream address (which we are allowed to share) and once they see what I've done, they follow suit, and we are able to get each other's friend codes.
The moderators from what I've seen are just too often removing posts for even a microscopic infraction that really harms no one.
I had seen a post in the Hyrule Warriors forums that someone had posted Cia's massive cleavage. Someone made a comment about a boner which was ok by Miiverse standards apparently, but my comment about the game being rated E for Erection was somehow more offensive than "boner talk" and gets removed. The logic behind some of their actions really is mind boggling.
Nintendo has been advertising the Wii U and 3DS as a family console right? I don't want my Miiverse account restricted because one of my family members gets a restriction (even if they deserved it). This new rule has some good intentions, but the fact that my account can be restricted (and maybe even perma-banned, if that applies as well) when I have done absolutely nothing wrong is incredibly stupid.
On the bright side, this will keep creeps like Finn and The Bard from slinking back in after getting perma'd.
Why are people or better yet kids getting mad at Miiverse? I think Miiverse is a joke just like Nintendo.
@SKTTR Oh man, "after" gave me SO much trouble on MHTri (NA version) on Wii when playing online since it had a single universal swear filter. "Hey, do you want to do Rathalos ***** this?" "Rathalos what?" "***** we finish this" "What?" ...eventually we learned to spell it atfer on there.
@kereke12
If u think so why do you go here?
@Mona-Reggie That is crazy, but I can't even tell you what I was banned for. The admin cut and paste reason didn't apply and Nintendo wouldn't tell me or have the admin justify their actions.
Bottom line is that anyone who supports MiiVerse, supports authority that doesn't have to account for it's actions. Anyone who does that, is very foolish imo.
Jesus Christ, are people actually defending this? Everyone's account on the system being denied access for the fault of one person, assuming they were rightfully, and not falsely, banned to begin with. This is so stern and so rigid. It's like Nintendo is North Korea or something. Do something wrong and your whole family pays the price. If Nintendo doesn't change, than I'd gladly abandon them after this generation. I've had it with these guys.
I personally have never had problems with false bans, and have only rarely seen troll-like content. I have seen a fair few people complaining about false bans but I think that them being this strict is good because it will persuade more parents to allow their children onto Miiverse. And, essentially, Miiverse is designed to be safe for kids.
@Phantom_R
Its really that easy to avoid strikes on miiverse... I've received two in the past both were from Tomodatchi life. One was a reply to an actual miiverse friend who had asked if he could use our miis within his game. I got a strike for a five word sentence... "Sure, you can add me" and my second strike was for when someone asked me what the game was like and I said you play a benevolent god like figure like in the game Populous. And I got a strike for offensive religious comments. Until Nintendo sort out their moderators, console bans are way too risky.
@kereke12 "I think Miiverse is a joke just like Nintendo."And this is coming from you who has this in his signature says "Long Live Nintendo" Really? Just a guy trying to get attention that's sad.
I think this is fine. I've never been falsely banned. I've been banned completely for my own fault. For calling people who were begging for smash demo codes morons.
@Calllack
Rarely see troll-like content? Just go to the smash bros miiverse stage. Be zero suit samus for extra fun. Or just go to the page where you support characters.
I love Miiverse! I love that is safely moderated ..
I've had a couple of posts deleted. .. Probably a bit unfairly. .. But better safe than sorry...
Miiverse needs some real work. No one wants to visit the Smash community for example and see a good morning post or other unrelated junk.
As long as you talk about games in a constructive manner there's nothing to worry about in Miiverse. Don't get entangled in personal things, never judge (even though you might be right), and don't write or draw like a caveman (trolling), and everything will be fine.
There are other platforms for your daily nonsense.
@ikki5 & BooJoh: Hahahah, nice!
A necessary sacrifice. Yeah, I've had my post removed for a situational happenstance before (was quoting the carpenter's son from Ocarina of Time, and an admin mistook it for hateful bullying, lol). But I'd rather worry about that then deal with inappropriate content. I haven't been on Miiverse in about a year, ever since that "take-over" of the LoZ Community, and with the higher number of immature users now, it hasn't been the same since. I doubt Miiverse will ever be as pleasant as it was at launch, but maybe this will do it some good.
Wait, people use Miiverse?
I'm all for lifetime bans for anyone who uses "BRUH" yet still expects to be taken seriously. There's a place for slang, but arguing your case for being treated as an adult isn't that place.
Are people notified when a post gets deleted? I made several posts of the final credits in Slaton - don't forget to visit that area after the final boss fight.
Are people banned if a post gets deleted or is that 2 separate things?
Can we argue our case if our post gets deleted or gets us banned? (My sons Mine craft account got stolen a few days ago and we can't reach Mojang and 4 different Micosoft phone reps had no idea what Mine craft was.)
If posts get deleted - and really, many of them should - then we should be notified. If we get banned there should be a grievance process.
And I'm OK w/ banning consoles, accounts are simple to make. But if my 10 year old draws a penis on a dare from his friend or own his own I'd like to know I can discuss the issue w/ a person on the phone to figure out what to do about it. If my cursing gets my kids banned, well they can buy their own Wii U if Miu verse means that much to them.
Sharing a Wii U console is a privilege, not a right. But there needs to be a 1800 #, spending $300 makes that a right.
Sometimes I feel like the entire world is becoming one big police state. Basically, say and do only what you are told—what "we" deem socially acceptable—or won't be allowed to say or do anything at all. Somehow, it doesn't really feel like that's the best world to live in.
Surely there's some problem they're going after here, though the number of people reporting being taken down nearly at random is cause for concern.
I don't much get Miiverse, though. I'm not on social networks, so that's not much of a surprise.
The concept of banning the entire systems where the affected NNID sounds like a good idea at glance. However, when you take into consideration that using Miiverse is like walking on a field of sensitive mines, this not only cut the malevolent users away from equation, but also those who aren't mean-spirited as well.
Miiverse is an interesting concept, but its dodgy execution on the moderation's part isn't something that even a stern defender of this flawed execution would deny.
This all started with the fact that Miiverse allowed people under 13 years old to participate, which makes it automatically insanely difficult to moderate without entirely relying on a automated report system (for some reason, they don't instantaneously prevent you from posting a message with a blacklisted word in first place) and its (sometimes mischievous) users to report any post that they think it deserves being gone. Most forums just outright won't allow anyone under 13 to participate, and they never had as much struggle with its users (save for a few bad apples here and there) as Miiverse.
I once got an automated warn in form of a notification just because I posted a message with a harmless out-of-bound glitch from Animal Crossing: New Leaf on the AC Plaza community and the word "glitch" I threw in is apparently blacklisted. The warn has been sent 4 minutes after I posted it. I couldn't seem to figure out what it really is because of Miiverse's awful moderation communication system. Your only means of communication is either choosing a limited set of 3-4 messages without being even given more options to defend why your post isn't breaking the rules, or sending a message to Nintendo and then call a Nintendo rep just to solve this type of situation. I can't say this is quite an efficient way for this situation.
I dare you to try defending on the aspects where Miiverse isn't quite efficient without saying something along the lines of "Nintendo doesn't know online well." and "It's designed for kids too.".
@SKTTR I remember that in Monster Hunter Tri, it would censor after even in the North American version, but it is allowed in 3U.
I've been around the block; done the "Phone call to Miiverse Admins rodeo"; written on blogs and commiserated with fellow users. The perma-ban and severe moderation are rotten to the core. Young people, "family-friendly" sure, if you draw a giant ding-dong that's one thing, but now people have been reduced to writing disclaimers on their forum posts to the admins in hopes of not being banned.
I once wrote, "Admins, this is not hateful. This is a discussion about XYZ." You know what happened? The admin threw that in my face, deleted the post, and banned me.
It's probably not possible with their personnel size for the admins to review every single complaint/infraction etc., but when they do, they do a fairly ham-fisted job. Otherwise, they have to do it robotically, in bulk, without context and then seldom reverse themselves.
If you choose to use MV (a privilege), the punishments for being moderated are very severe, including being cut off permanently from peer groups, since outside interaction is forbidden as one of the first rules. The hair-trigger moderation is a whole other issue. When they do get involved, it's a zero-sum game. Every small ding brings you closer to a lifetime ban.
So you don't have to use Miiverse, but the temptation is there, you enter the fray and do some free promotion for Nintendo, and then they toss your charred husk onto a funeral pyre.
I made a policy recommendation concerning Miiverse "perma-bans". The "perma" is far too severe in most cases - responsible use of the forum and context are not evaluated when admins deny forum privileges.
Alternatives exist, such as different-length ban periods, fines, correspondence, fact-finding, and use of more neutral guidelines when determining bans. Phone calls with administrators are far too unpleasant and embarrassing to have to argue for favorable outcomes.
My last phone call to administrator "Miss R." was about my being banned for saying "Root Beer" and drawing a root beer stein. The call ended up in a no-kidding shouting match. The admin talking over me, condescension, just utter nonsense. Far, far too stupid an experience.
@rjejr
They do get notified when a post gets deleted. Usually a deletion means one more step towards a ban. We do not have many options as to an appeals system. The codes thing is the general Nintendo support number but they are slow and very unhelpful at times.
Many times they won't tell you what post it was only that it was taken down
I wonder what do you have to do to get banned on the MiiVerse. I use it basically for some in-game notifications like the Mario Kart 8 records and stuff. I don't use it anyway so much to post, rarely read stuff, it's a pretty silly network if you asked me.
Miiverse sucks.
Glad I don't use it.
Just say PM and they will think you're saying Project M and they will proceed to ban you (PM can also be used to say Paper Mario )
Apparantly, Arin Hanson got banned just for using the username "Egofaptor" (apologies if that's too dirty to post here...I'm honestly not sure). I question why Nintendo couldn't have simply helped him change the name instead of banning him like that straight up.
Anyway, I've seen a few posts of obviously bad nature on Miiverse, but not all that many. But I also don't use Miiverse all that much, so I dunno how bad the problem really is. While this measure seems ill thought out and harsh, if it's as bad as they say, I understand WHY they'd do it. Not sure what the alternatives are.
"Most complainers are the ones who abuse the flaw in the banning system to begin with, they have no one to blame but themselves"
Yeah, tell that to your buddy King George III.
For people who atemt deep into miiverse yoi get bammed for almost anything. Seriously, i got repromanded for saying how i didnt like microsoft.
The allogations abouting mods reading tge message has to have some truth to it. If anyone reports you probability is that youll get a warning or a ban irregardless of content. They really dont. On several occasions extremely passive content ive posted gets a report probably because someone didnt agree with me.
Ive had to reply to moderators abd say, "did you read my post?" To which the warning blew over.
All the immature and inappropriate posts have really been dampening my enjoyment of Miiverse, so I don't mind a bit of a crack-down. I haven't noticed any epidemic with bans, had a pretty easy time with my account.
@rjejr
Yep. I think the whole Wii U ban is the way to go, but being able to challenge a ban becomes even more important. Some accountability with the family can only help, really.
It seems there are itchy trigger-fingers on the moderation even if it is automated. All this "don't do the wrong thing" people are basically right, but they are ignoring how many false positives are happening.
How does this play out in the future for Nintendo, though? I wonder what plans they have for their online account systems and communication. :/
@aaronsullivan - "I wonder what plans they have for their online account systems and communication."
I just hope the new Club Nintedo gets here before the NX.
@Sonic9009
"They have wrecked the fun for me"
Unless you're causing trouble this doesn't affect you. Moderators may be over zealous with spoiler alerts and crap like that, but if you're just using the site as intended and not stirring up controversy, you have nothing to worry about.
I post neutral comments and never had an issue. I may have been told to use spoiler alerts from time to time, but that's about it
Nintendo sucks in general, sell the system and get something better. PlayStation and Xbox are the way to go, even PC is better.
Nanny state Nintendo.
Though we're entitled to freedom of expression, it doesn't means we "should" be as immature as possible. Follow rules-- it's pretty easy. Don't like the rules, don't use Miiverse (or any other social place that has moderators). I'm sure people could make a case about NL modding on these comments, but guess what? It's "NL's site", so if their rules are unacceptable, LEAVE.
Jeez, the fights people pick /rant
Got over 1200 Miiverse posts and only got one notification...and that was because I was trying to exchange friend codes with someone. Naughty naughty, I know.
Thing is, if you're careful it shouldn't be a problem.
LMAO @ drones defending this
All fun and commentary aside, I'm trying to figure out if a 3DS perma-ban is now actually a console ban. Did anyone interpret that as being the case?
@hYdeks
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/9
Doesn't like Nintendo, has Nintendo life account
I got false reported once and i don't even know what i did. I also got reported for telling someone about a guy that was being a bully. I guess i kinda deserved to get reported for that one cuz i did say something not so nice about the bully but i still got reported for i don't know what and i have seen lots of immature people say and draw immature things ( u can just find them in the support sections for the ssb characters) so i think this a great thing but a little stupid too.
@ikki5 @Savino Of course and a lot, why shouldn't it?
@SKTTR That's interesting (and somewhat funny ^^), because I'm from Germany, too, but I have my console set to english by default. I'm not sure I ever used the (english) word 'after' in a Miiverse post, but now I'll pay more attention to it because it interests me whether It would affect me too.
@night Nobody said all of the bans are justified, just that it's justified if you look at the whole picture. So what if you get banned, just wait two weeks and then you can use Miiverse again. It's not like one needs Miiverse so much for playing Wii U that you can't do without it for two weeks. And if you got banned because of a false positive or someone reported you, you can always contact the admins and rectify it. Or just wait two weeks, I don't see the problem in that. The benefit still exceeds the loss. And it's nothing like approving of a genocide (in 1940) for some weird benefit, comparing those two things is really ridiculous because there is no harm in not being able to use Miiverse for a couple of weeks!
Regarding your other post: Lol, yeah as if stating that you're "right" ever had proven anything. If you think you're right, try to win an argument. But then you have to come up with some real arguments. Comparing Miiverse to fascism and mumbling about "no appeals, not trials" without having any idea isn't a valid argument, it's just trolling and talking BS.
@Samurairu That's not true, you can always appeal and try to get the ban removed.
So you're basically saying anyone who supports any online gaming community (take any game you want) is "foolish"? No online community of a game developer has to account for anything because it's THEIR community. They make the rules, just like when you go inside the house of someone or into the building of a company (like a party or something), you have to stick to their rules. Otherwise they are entitled to kick you out. It's called 'domestic authority' (private) or 'rights of the householder' (public).
@Koz Yeah I thinks that's the point. Even if Nintendo is a bit to strict, there's still a huge benefit (especially for kids) most users don't seem to see. I'm not saying Nintendo's solution is perfect, but it gets the job done.
@hYdeks Seems like you don't have a Wii U and also don't have any clue - so go play those two boring consoles (not that I have anything against them in general, the PS4 is an okay console). Or do the smart move and play PC and Wii U (like I do), so you get the best games, ideas and graphics there are in the market.
It feels almost ridiculous to ask, but you know you can write private messages in Miiverse, right?
@SupremeAllah "We all know Nintendo makes it as difficult as possible to make friends outside of people you know in real life."
Lol, what? Are you serious? I got several Miiverse friends that I don't know in real life and adding them was just a few clicks away. Like during the Splatoon Global testfire, I added some people who posted their Miiverse username in the Nintendolife chat. Or I added people I played MK8 against online. Or once I responded to a Miiverse post of a user and since then we regularly write each other private messages and sometimes play online together/against each other (MK8, Splatoon, Smash). So I don't get what you're talking about.
@EngieBengie Everyone? Don't exaggerate. To me it looks like maybe 1-5% (don't forget the fact that content users rarely post while discontent users scream as loud as possible throughout the internet) are banned for no reason and the rest is fine. It's nothing like North Korea. And your statement already shows where you're wrong:
"Do something wrong and your whole family pays the price." There's a simple solution: Don't do something wrong! Why is it so hard to understand? If you're a parent and a kid does something wrong on Miiverse, it's your fault. Because it's your responsibility! And if you as a parent post something inappropriate and the whole family pays the price - it's still your fault because you posted it.
I really don't get the problem. This isn't DOTA2 or 4chan, this is Miiverse, a social network that's supposed to be used by kids and adults at the same time. Of course that can't work without some limitations that might seem too strict for adults. There might be several individual cases where the Miiverse was too strict, but that's the cost of having a multi-age platform. It can never be perfect.
They could separate Miiverse into kids and adult zone, but not only would that take away a big deal, it would also be hard to implement since they would need a age verification method that works worldwide.
So there's an easy solution: JUST BE OVERCAUTIOUS when posting something to Miiverse! Or if that's too much for you, just don't use Miiverse. It might be your loss but it's not a big one, because Miiverse isn't really that essential for playing Wii U games. I only use it every few weeks and sometimes even more selden.
You can compare Miiverse to a playground in a park. You can go there as adult and hang out, drink a beer or something. But you know you shouldn't leave any beer bottles or cigarette stubs there because the next day there will be children playing there. So for the sake of the children, you have to restrict yourself a little bit.
It seems fair enough to me, since it's too easy to get around Miiverse bannings right now, and it makes people accountable to their family members if they go and get the whole family banned. If you don't want to get in trouble for people you share your Wii U with, then get your own Wii U. With the trolls silenced, maybe it will be easier for the moderators to do their jobs properly, so there won't be as many wrongful bannings.
I have about 700 posts or so and I've only been given a warning five time. 2 from bullying (which I kinda deserved in hindsight) and 3 from not marking a few random post as spoilers (they can be overly strict about that).
@night Wow. The age on entitlement is in display with this one. Miiverse is a private space. Freedom of speech means you can't be arrested for what you say. It doesn't mean people have to let you say whatever you want on their private property.
The owners of any social media site have every right to make you leave of they don't want to put up with you anymore. Just as I would have the right to kick you out of my house for spewing the bs you are now. Don't like it, go somewhere else.
@ThomasBW84 Under normal circumstances, but some people end up having their posts reported by immature children who think it's fun to get people banned on Miiverse "I've seen it happen many times already" so you can be straight as an arrow and stick to the rules and still be banned.
My only issue with Miiverse was due to Mario Kart 8. I tried to post a video of a race, but didn't bother to write anything (because the video was self-explanatory). I got hit for posting an "empty" post. To me that is some downright, think-skulled, draconian adherence to the policy.
The only part that irritates more is that I am still stuck a year later with a notification about it that will not go away.
@gspro15198 Entitlement means you're owed or qualify for something, you should be using the term self-entitlement as you're trying to say they believe themselves to be owed something.
Why do people keep using this word incorrectly?
Using Miiverse regularly over the past years, but never got banned. Two times I got a scold from the admins. The first time was for a spoiler, which I found a bit too harsh: Yes, I wrote the solution to a problem, but mine was a reply to someone else's post which asked for the solution. So only people who actually clicked on the post to read the replies had been able to read my "spoiler", and those should be people who either have the same problem, or a solution for it. So it seems illogical to me to that I should have marked this as a spoiler (whereas in my opinion a lot more other posts should be marked as spoilers, showing screenshots of the credits or stuff like that – but I usually don't report them, if it isn't too serious, as I don't want to cause the authors too much trouble). The second time was for posting a screenshot from Deus Ex, showing a "glowing toilet" and commented by me with the words "Holy sh*t! o.O". With the asterisk, like here. If the warning was for the comment, I can somehow understand it.
So all in all, the warnings I received seemed a bit picky, but then again if you have to moderate millions of comments in a free service, you have to do things quickly and without too much investigation. For me, that's all fine. And I also find it annoying when people complain about censorship when their "sexy" pixel art gets deleted. I don't have a problem with any of those pictures, and I understand that they put a lot of work into them. But then: they act as if Miiverse was the only platform in the world where they could release their art, that Nintendo would be the enemy of the freedom of art, and blabla... Miiverse has certain rules. If you like them or not is one story. But as Miiverse is only one platform among dozens where they could share your art, then why posting stuff that's at the borderline of what's allowed there and not. I mean, some people seem to expect absolute freedom of Miiverse - something Nintendo, for a reason, cannot grant. Most stuff can be posted on Miiverse without problems. For the rest, why Miiverse? Go somewhere else. It's not like we're living in a totalitarian society, where Miiverse would be the only way to communicate (or the only way to communicate about games). In fact, it doesn't even have a quasi-monoply like Twitter or Facebook. Nintendo has every right to set the rules there, and as far as I go to know Miiverse, they ain't too strict, considering that Miiverse was never meant to be an universal means of communication, but one with clear restrictions.
I saw a tasteless drawing once on Miiverse. Had many lols. Its basically a kiddy 4chan which is why I love it.
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@shani So I'm a liar? I've been through this process so I can only conclude you're a troll who enjoys spreading lies and misinformation themselves to get some sort of perverse kicks out of it. Go back to MiiVerse and dwell among your brainless kind.
@Samurairu No I didn't say you're a liar. I just said you can appeal to them.
I don't know which continent you're living but I can't imagine every Nintendo rep to be that rude on the phone.
I once posted something and it got removed. Then I messaged the admins that I hadn't posted anything inappropriate and they finally rereleased it.
But as I said, I couldn't care less. Miiverse isn't that important to me.
And honestly, I don't get why you'd call someone a troll just because their experience with the Miiverse differs. Maybe it's this kind of rude behaviour that got you banned in the first place?
Fanboys keep using that word "entitlement". I don't think it means what you think it means.
Drawing a picture of Toad and making the top of his head look like a phallus is no grounds for a banning.
@shani Thank you for clarifying that. It's a touchy subject for me, because I wasted hours on the phone and through email with Nintendo of America and got nothing out of any of the reps I dealt with. It killed my fan feeling towards Nintendo, the last company I still had those feelings towards, so I fought for my rights and was treated like nothing by Nintendo and it's annoying, but I am like you in the MiiVerse doesn't mean much to me now, but it did at one time.
I'm more than ok with rules and strict mods, I just don't think banning a console is the solution. They'll sell it, so the unaware buyer will inherit the issue, while the offender can buy another console, register it under a new name and email address, et voilà.
I have posted over 500 times and I have never even once had a problem with getting one of my posts removed, or with getting banned because of a post. It really isn't that hard to show some maturity on Miiverse, and if there are people that can't abide by the rules of Miiverse, by all means ban them. These wars on Miiverse are also pretty pointless. Most of the time they accomplish very little. This is Nintendo's service after all, not ours. They get to choose how we get to use it, not us. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Simple as that. I do understand that there are instances when people are banned unfairly, but those are far less than those who actually deserve it. I also see banning every account on a system to be a tad extreme too, but there actually are people who create multiple accounts just in case they get banned. I do feel sorry for families though. One person's mistake shouldn't cause everyone to suffer. I just feel that if this helps take some of the immature users down a notch, then it is worth it. Besides, it isn't that hard to stay out of trouble. Be mindful of what you post, and follow the rules.
This change seems to me like a way to hold people accountable for both their actions and who they choose to associate with. If others suffer on behalf of their poor decisions, then they'll have to think twice. Granted, there are younger users out there who won't understand but that's why parental controls exist. They need to crack down on ban avoidance and this the way to do it.
Maybe now someone cleans up the Wii Fit U community. Now that I have the power to do so 😈😈 hehehe.
@Dpullam I agree with everything you just said. Common sense and maturity are a necessity when concerning others online.
Now if only they will do something about all the people that keep posting off topic. I don't load up Miiverse to read about someone's life, or memes. Wii Fit U community? More like spam community.
I posted over about 100 posts on Miiverse and haven't got banned once, so I find this rule fair. It not like most people that go there doesn't deserve it (Bard I'm looking at you) for drawing lewd and making another account to avoid a ban. If you and your friend never browse Memeverse daily you would never have a problem like this because they don't use it religiously. Maybe if most of the users there didn at act childish and steer your way out of trouble by not drawing lewd and not get into Internet fights they wouldn't have made these rules.
Saying nintendo is needs to be 'tougher' with miiverse bans is like saying Hitler needed to be tougher on the jews.
I had an account banned for drawing the cover art of Monster Hunter 3 ultimate because it was marked as spoilers. The cover-art... spoilers. Yeah. It doesn't need to be any tougher.
@Ryu_Niiyama YAY FOR THE PERFUME PROFILE PICTURE!!!!!! RELAX IN THE CITY/PICK ME UP!!!!
I've had a relatively nice time on miiverse, although there was that one time where my perfectly-normal post got deleted by mods with no explanation. I must say, I'm afraid to post anything on it in case the mods don't like my spelling or something.
Yeah, I like miiverse. The only time I ever got a post deleted/warning was when some girl was like "I'm single, any guys please come talk to me I need a BF. Again I'm single."(or something like that.) I thought she was joking.(What kind of girl legitimately makes a post like that?) so I started joking about dating her too. Turns out she was a 10-yr old loli and she wasn't joking. sigh I reported her and my post got deleted too. It was kind of hilarious. Her parents should really watch her though...
@AugustusOxy: That's really sad in a pfft-ahahahahahahah tuheh cough cough sigh kind of way. In other news I legitimately choked on air laughing(I didn't know you could do that either) right after writing the "pfft" part of this paragraph. That's the same kind of funny.
I've had a couple of posts deleted for really, really petty things. I mean, like to the point where it could only have been someone reporting it just for fun and it got deleted.
That is absolute horse malarkey! Just because one person screws up, doesn't mean that every account linked to the system should be banned. I live in a big family, and we all share a Wii U. I (shamefully, although the reasons where silly) was banned from miiverse a while back, but nobody else in my family should have to suffer for that. The miiverse admins are WAAAAAAY insanely strict.
@Samurairu I totally understand how such a treatment can break a fan's heart. The difference is, I wouldn't have cared so much about it to actually call them in the first place. Maybe I would've been angered and tempted to contact them for a short while. But then I would say to myself: Who cares, it's just some Miiverse post out of millions of things there are in the world. This may not be ideal but if it makes the Wii U safe for (at least some) kids in return, I couldn't care less about my post being deleted. It's not like they are opressing freedom of speech like in some dictatorial regime, my post didn't contain some important political opinion, it was just a Miiverse post. Nothing that serious can be in a Miiverse post since it's a social network about games and besides it's made safe for kids.
I can't even remember what I had posted.
@rayrayjoe2006 Hey! Always happy to see a fellow Perfume fan! I got the collector's edition of the single! I LOVE Pick me up. Been listening to it a few times a day since it released.
@shani I get what you are saying, but I didn't have a post deleted, I was banned for 14 days with threat of being permanently banned. That's why I called them and wasted my time. There was no foundation or explanation of why it happened and I know my treatment is far from unique.
@hYdeks What does the Wii U sucking have to do anything with this post? Seems like you're just trolling to me. Care to explain why the Wii U sucks exactly, or are you just fanboying.
@shani
If you don't get what I'm talking about then you clearly don't play on a 3DS. You can't simply just "add a friend" on Animal crossing for example. You have to meet on the island, exchange your codes, then input the codes, turn the game back on, open your gates, and hopefully the person will come over. Then you can add them as a friend in game. Way more complicated than it really needs to be.
I for one am happy that this has happened.
I once had a post deleted for telling someone how to find a MV artist's NNID. It was dinged as "Personal Information". I was also banned for typing someone's NNID. Yes. Seriously. The entire post was nothing but an NNID because the person above me asked what someone's was so they could friend them. Dinged as "Personal information". Nowhere in the Code of Conduct does it say you can't share NNIDs. And why wouldn't we be able to? They are right there on the profile pages.
I bring this up for all the people who say it's hard to be banned. No it's not. If someone has an issue with you (or they're just bored) they can report bomb posts claiming they were offended, or that you're speaking in code, and admins would rather just delete than think. For example, I had a post deleted that discussed statistics on a game. It was deleted for sharing personal information. I called on that one, and they said the person reporting it said I was giving out my Friend code in code. I wasn't. It was a legit conversation about stats. I proceeded to tell them that my FC didn't remotely match the numbers in the post, and they said they would rather err on the side of caution. When I got off the phone I found my account was banned for the infraction. Despite the post being deleted several hours earlier, I was banned after making the call. I was not rude or inflammatory on the phone btw.
The Wii U thing doesn't affect me, but I do think if they are going to ban every ID on a device they need to moderate better. Profanity, bullying, dirty pictures, obvious bans. But discussing stats? Explaining how to look up the very public NNIDs? Nintendo has a search button for NNIDs! Going to be a lot of innocent people banned because some kid decides to report bomb others for fun.
Its really no worse then causing trouble and getting banned from a forum. If you act like an ill-mannered jerk, or if you let your kids act like ill mannered-jerks online then there is no one else to blame.
While I understand some people have legitimate complaints about Miiverse I have to say I really enjoy it. I'm ok with Nintendo trying to provide a clean fun environment for their users to communicate through. I own the PS3 and Xbox 360 and have to say they don't have anything as cool a Miiverse that allows gamers to connect with other gamers outside of gameplay who enjoy the game their playing. It promotes a great community game experience and I think it's awesome. Plus with the the game pad the chance to add your own artwork as a post to show your love for a game is incredible. For instance I just got done playing some online battles in Splatoon, and went to Miiverse to show my excitement for the game. I get an avenue to communicate with others who love the game just as much as I do. It's neat that Nintendo has their own social media experience that is just intended for the players. What other system can you leave a comment, leave a drawing, or post a game pic to a community who shares your interest in the game and then go right back to playing the game. In my books this is very cool and something they should keep. Though I think you should be able to appeal a ban especially on family accounts, or have a time limit for bans (kind of a slap in the wrist that gets worse with each ban).
@night
Not really, no adminning system is perfect but that doesn't mean you can't make it good by booting out the nasties who have magically forgotten how to be civil just cause they're on the internet. As I said before, its no different from constantly violating the rules on any forum. It won't be perfect but if someone can't re-learn their manners, or if parents can't teach their kids that politeness counts here just as much as in real life, then that's their own problem.
Maybe if they separate kids and adult boards, it would be easier.
@SupremeAllah Ah now it makes sense.
Yes, I only own a Wii U and I always assumed the Miiverse would be the same on both consoles.
@Samurairu Yeah that's really not kind of them at all. But waiting 14 days wouldn't bother me. ^^
Well, as being one of the few adult that was using Miiverse, Comic workshop room, had more than 750 followers, being a published comic book artist and writer, I was getting many post deleted, drawings removed for unknown reasons, then started to get banned monthly for mind boggling reasons, then permabanned. Miiverse can go burn in hell...
I forgot to mention one of my drawing got even featured here....
I just hope perma-bans don't come without proper warning and scrutiny, as some lines (as to what could cause a ban) are blurred
Haven't used miiverse in ages so really don't care.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So basically if you share a Wii U with your other family members and 1 of them gets banned then you are all banned?
@Folkloner iv been reported for incorrect spelling... i have Dislexia and i sliped up with spelling Guy.. not goung to put what i put but it was a Honest misstake so this worrys me a bit.. as theres lots of words that can sound very rude miss spelt..
i agree with @night i find it ridiculous when people try to defend stuff like this when the amount of people who disagree is larger like wth kind of thinking do you have? like mentioned about those who defend stuff like this always throw that same line "well if you dont like it dont use it?" or the one being used in here "well stop being a troll" but they never stop and think about the false reporting
As someone who used to be a moderator for a popular website i know to always double check rules or least keep things PG-PG13 yet as i mention i to have had false reportings or even reporting on 'spoilers' which that one still confuses me....you wont run into these issues if you dont have over 50 followers or more its why some of you say you never had this problem but just remember those artist you like to follow and see their cool art well guess what they wont be there soon with this new rule since some of them get their stuff deleted for no reason or cuz that one guy got jealous etc.
I like the miiverse updates. Rules are rules and im glad nintendo stick to their guns. Its not like you get an instant ban. It takes a few questionable posts to get banned so if you haven't learned after your first and second warning you totally deserve to be banned.
I'd be glad not to see any more suggestive drawings of squidlings.
Ain't nobody got time for that!
@FLUX_CAPACITOR True, but it was a human that responded once I challenged the post.
@Gate_Shikimuri Because contacting them won't change a damn thing. They just don't listen.
So what happens when the banned Wii U gets sold off and a person buys said used Wii U?
This thing is absurdly harsh and it could potentially punish someone who didn't do anything wrong.
@cloudrunner64 So we deserve to get banned because of the admin's bias and bans you for not violating the Code of Conduct.
That's totally logical.
I once said something very minor about Paper monster recut, and immediately Nintendo saw it as a spoiler. That's just plain nuts!
Only problem with this system is that it assumes that everyone who got banned made another account, when that is not true in a lot of cases. For instance, anyone who got banned on a 3DS that happened to be linked to a Wii U. You can't make another user on a 3DS, unless you want all of your content deleted.
I the reason I got banned is because of my intolerance for passive-aggressive jerks, and my less than subtle way of dealing with them. I never swore, but I always got busted for "bullying" because I was a bit less sneaky than the other guy.
I got perma banned in my 3DS, which was linked to my family's Wii u, and now they might all suffer. Luckily, they have not enforced this on my sibling's users, so that's good. I deleted my user from the system, but not the NNID, because I had stupidly bought games on that ID, and don't want to be out $120 personally.
I wish I could just "unlink" my nnid from the Wii U to save everyone else the trouble, but that's a "call Nintendo and hope the jerk-wad moderators are willing to help you" thing, and I have had enough of that.
ya' know, one time I saw a post saying that Bernie sanders should be president. so ya' know what I did? I gave them 5 reasons why he will destroy America (including the fact that he's a socialist). so guess what happened? they reported me and I got banned for about a month (the ban is almost over). THIS IS TYRANNY! not only that, but I've been false banned at least 10 times before and ALL of the claims were REDICULOUS!
#miiverse_is_beginning_to_suck
@Folkloner Amen dude, Amen, i SO agree with you, yesterday i was temp-banned for-and i quote-"asking for a username for a service outside of nintendo", and ALL i did was ask for someones roblox username, i didn't ask for a password, or personal info, NOTHING ELSE! JUST A USERNAME, and then poof 2 week ban, and i JUST got unbanned like 2 or 3 weeks ago >.<
this is just sad, all these people and myself, banned for no reason, and whats worse? these people are praising nintendo for doing so, when they probably don't even use or go on miiverse, i pity the poor people who have gotten more serious bans then a 2 week temp ban for talking about roblox
@beautifulstrong how awful! sooner or later though nintendo will get whats coming to them when some poor victim of a false ban has the last straw with this poor improfessional excuse for an administration service
I've actually recently come to the conclusion that permabans shouldn't exist at all.
@MaseSco I don't like it because i don't get why you can't say your 3ds friend code i mean they're basicly saying you can't say you nintendo network id that you use on your ads if its different
Miiverse has always been a curse for me. Why? Well for two reasons alone, false reporting and the word filtering.
Obviously if I were to mention the word filters anyone would stop me right there and tell me not to use swears, and that's just it, I never did. Some commonly safe words like "dump" and "America" came from deleted posts.
As for the false reporting, the admins really need to review a post before deleting it, as a user comment from the article had already stated. I swear if I happen to buy a Switch console and they bring back Miiverse then I hope to god that the ban history resets. I'm tired of this crap.
This is stupid! I did nothing wrong on my account and still get banned for two weeks from miiverse. You could have sone a lot better about this. Just because someone else who is using my consle gets kicked i get kicked too? This is dumb beyond belief. I can't believe the stupid rules of the Miiverse. They had to make crappy rules about the banning process and now thier gonna get less popluar by the minute with each ban. I can't even do anything about it to get it lifted. i don't care what anyone says. This miiverse update crap is so stupid and it needs to be abolished pronto. I don't one bit!
@TimeGuy
No it wasn't the way to go
I know this is late, but a once got banned because i posted a picture of a person named jeffy from sml. They said that it was inappropriate content. I don't think that a picture of a person with a pencil up his nose saying what doing is so inappropriate that a little kid can get traumatized, so why can't I post it? Because of this post, I got a permanent ban since I posted a few other things that were inappropriate like Monita from nintendo land holding up a middle finger.
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