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F them. There was no excuse for not making their smaller titles for the Wii U. I know people like to claim that EA is essential for Nintendo to succeed but it's not true. The Switch will be just fine without EA as long as Nintendo (and indies) can truly support it like they're saying.

I hate how LKD is put on some pedestal now because he blew someone who had an October dev kit. I'm really hoping his information is outdated and will be proven wrong. The way he goes around excoriating other leakers and acting high and mighty is obnoxious. Like Emily Rogers, I look forward to finding out he was only half right. Of course, the way they leak always leaves them with an easy out so they can never be wrong.

I would have Shovel Knight on it in

seems like a lot of developers shouldn't have even mentioned a Wii U version if they either weren't technically proficient enought to port it or there never was a feasible reason to do so due to economics.

It'd be great if they had a surprise Wii U Direct in October with Pikmin 4, Super Mario Sunshine remaster, more Paper Mario Color Splash, and a Wii Sport/Resort type game with gamepad utilization. With that (or others) along with LOZ: BOTW I would maybe buy another Wii U instead of just waiting for the NX.

@Diortem go back to wiiudaily you pleb. Or have you been banned again? ha ha ha ha

they've lost my sale. Sounds like they either didn't even start porting it, or lacked the skill to port it to the Wii U. All these devs want is the path of least resistance. Typical lazy and inept 3rd party developers. I'll continue to boycott all of these companies even on my PS4 Neo when I get one.

we've heard the "software drives sales" line since the 3DS. They failed on that launch, then we heard it for the Wii U, they didn't learn their lesson from the 3DS and again failed to have requisite software. NX should be different though because they only have to make games for one system and they've delayed it.

I'm expecting one more Nintendo Direct before the NX reveal in the fall with a couple more unannounced Wii U games (maybe a remaster) and information on Color Splash.

This is why many call people fanboys. Because we see/hear news like this and ignore the message and spin it to make it sound positive for Nintendo. Folks, this isn't good news for the NX. If any of Ubisoft's other games were coming to the NX they would have announced it like they did for Just Dance. So absolutely nothing has changed from the Wii U. Not that it matters to Nintendo. They are doing this intentionally. The difference being they can easily support the NX on their own so they don't need 3rd parties beyond indies. If they really aren't going to compete power wise so 3rd parties will want to make games on it, then they are going to try and compete in price. This is now what I expect:

$199 console with regular controller. It will use carts and can stream 4K but no 4K blu ray. It will get the most 1st party support a Nintendo console/handheld has ever seen. It might not get AAA 3rd party games but Nintendo will make sure to fund 2nd party and indies. Hopefully a few 3rd party devs will make exclusives for it once it sells well enough. You will have an option to buy a handheld tablet type controller bundle for $299. Its direct competitors will be Xbox One S and PS4K.

I don't see it selling well. Maybe 25 million total. Nintendo just doesn't "get it". This will get us fanboys to buy and due to low price eventually the others might get it as a 2nd console.

This very well could be the last console they make. Expect them to go 3rd party. That decision will be met with resistance by fanboys but I just don't understand why. Nintendo developers being able to make games using the latest and greatest tech means games are going to be even better. They'll be making bank and can focus on that instead of using so much manpower worried about hardware and developing around that limitation. With that free time and devotion to just games E3 for Nintendo could be like this year's Zelda U reveal but also stellar, comparable sized Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc.

Either way, us fanboys will be fine. We'll have to deal with trolls with the NX but once they go 3rd party we'll be the ones trolling because the games will be crushing the competition

completely stupid "article" that I didn't realize happened on this site. Any more and you'll have less viewers

The handheld will be just a different kind of controller. They NX will launch with a regular controller. There will be an option to buy the tablet controller that will allow you to play on the go. $249.99 for the NX. $399.99 bundle to include the tablet controller. The NX will be able to run anything the PS4K or Xbox 1.5 can. It will launch with 3D Mario, Pikmin 4, and Zelda. There is more 3rd party support than you'd believe. NDA prevent them from revealing they have dev kits since end of 2015. Have source. You heard it here first

@Dakt yep. It's a relatively small company that competes against behemoths. It is run by old Japanese men who think only about keeping costs down. They are very timid. Yes, they are innovative but since the SNES this company has chosen to go the cheap route with hardware and it's cost them dearly so instead of innovation it's more like gimmicks meant to distract us from the weak hardware. They are a software company that won't hire sufficient staff to adequately supply their own hardware. The NX was supposed to alleviate that but even before it's out they are already having issues making enough games. How is that possible? Nintendo themselves haven't really been busy developing so what is going on? I'm telling you, keep your expectations real low

@Terrornaught yep. Early 2017 they'll announce that the NX will be revealed at E3 and definitely will be available Holiday 2017. The fact that they aren't even talking about the NX at E3 2016 means they simply will not have a viable way to market it to the masses correctly. E3 reaches the whole entire world and is THE place to hear gaming news and announcements. Do they really think a Nintendo Direct in the fall announcing the NX will suffice? Of course not, we'll be getting a full blown 2017 E3 reveal. Yes, that means Zelda U will be delayed until then as well. This company is run by morons.

let's be completely honest. huge fanboy here. But even I have to admit they're run poorly. A December 2016 release with Zelda gives them the buzz of the holiday season when most consoles are sold. Waiting till March 2017 just allows Sony and Microsoft to counter via price gouging or new now more powerful than NX iterations. The whole reason behind the NX was to make it easier to support it because it'll be just one platform instead of the two separate handheld/console model they have had. The fact they couldn't even get games out quick enough to support it at launch means that concept is flawed. Since it's pretty apparent they won't be able to support it by themselves since their games just take too long to make, the NX will fail unless it gets 3rd party support. I just don't see Nintendo making a dent with PS4k coming and whatever Xbox does in response. It's time we seriously start getting used to the idea that Nintendo will most likely be strictly a 3rd party software company within 5 years. That's okay though because making games is what they are best at and they'd be able to work with competent hardware for a change. Stock holders like myself are not happy at all with this turn of events. No wonder the share price has cratered. The company has poor leadership and direction. It's the board's fault. They are completely out of touch and a full generation behind the times. I have zero faith that the NX will succeed.

I'm ashamed to be counted with many of you as Nintendo fans. The low IQ of responders is hilarious. To think Nintendo would intentionally turn down hundreds of millions of dollars they could make by selling these SNES games on the old 3ds..just so they could increase sales of the new 3ds (maybe in the thousands if lucky) over this new exclusive feature (SNES games). Just work your tiny little brains around that for a second before you claim they are being greedy.

@LegendOfPokemon no. not even close.

I love how all these reviews for the Wii U version are somehow much lower than the reviews FOR THE SAME EXACT GAME...on PS360, PS4, and Xbox one. Why??? Because it doesn't use the game pad? Hello!!! Those other versions don't either!! What is wrong with these gaming sites? Even Nintendo centric ones like this are being harsh. It's bad enough there is an irrational hatred of anything Nintendo from the other sites we don't need that sort of thing here as well.

It will be just an official price drop to $250. The PS4 going down to $299 makes this imperative and they had great sales this BF with $250 bundles.

lots of idiots saying it's too bad it's not 60fps when it's an open world game and the other more powerful consoles can't do it ether. Where do these people come from?

"This is way better than the "facelift" for Wii U, TPHD just looks incredibly lazy to be honest with how little and meaningless the differences are."
I just knew there'd be at least on complete moron here to say this. I'm actually surprised there aren't more. The trolling Nintendo receives is just so weak. The sadder thing is it comes from supposed fans too

WWHD is arguably the very best console Zelda. Not quite sure how it's so low. Being a remake shouldn't matter. Super Mario Maker shouldn't even be top 10. Bayonetta 2 is severely overrated by fanboys who use it's exclusivity in defense mode against other consoles. It's really not top 10. I'd put Rayman Legends in there instead. Top two are spot on but DK should be 3.

It's crazy but I have bought and sold many Wii Us in these three years:

Launch 32 GB
ZombiU bundle
WWHD bundle
White Skylanders 8 GB bundle
Refurbished from Nintendo $200
SM3DW off craigslist $250
Finally I am now set with the Mario Kart 8 w/both DLC bundle.

Each and every time I bought one I would play a game or two to completion and sell to get my money back. I've beaten most of the 1st party games I was interested in. I'm now going to keep my current one because I got it for a great price $245 after tax and plan on keeping through its lifetime as Zelda U, Zelda TP, Star Fox and whatever hasn't been announced should provide me with plenty to play until NX arrives. It's an amazing console with some of the very best iterations of 1st party games they've ever made. If they deliver with the TP remake like I think they will, make Star Fox stellar and Zelda U is as good as it looks....well, I'll be ready to declare the Wii U the very best console Nintendo has ever made. SNES currently has that title but how do you argue against the Wii U that has the best Kart, Smash, DK, Pikmin, amazing Yoshi, great Captain Toad, awesome 2d Mario and 3D Marios, plus exclusives like Bayonetta 2, TW101, Lego City, Fast Racing Neo, and X, plus new IP in Splatoon. Seriously, it also has IMO the best Zelda ever WWHD and likely another gem in TP and of course what is shaping up to be potentially even better than WW in Zelda U. The only thing it doesn't have is F-Zero, Metroid (I have a sneaking suspicion this will be a launch/showcase title for NX) and Punchout (there's still time).

lots of blind idiots incapable of discerning obvious differences between HD and not. Sad. I would say I can't wait to say I told you so but we all know they will react just as dumb on the next 1 minute reveal of a future game only to be wrong..again..so they'll never learn.

@Kaze_Memaryu it's almost as if they have several months of polishing that they can still do huh? oh wait, they do because it comes out in March. hur dur

@jakysnakydx lol you are blind then. Look at the background. smh..some people just wow

@Aurumonado you are blind then. pop in that ugly 2006 480p version into your wii U. TP HD already looks world's better and they still have months to polish. smh

Why would they do a Direct? They've already addressed everything that is coming out for the Wii U. Maybe they'll have a Star Fox one but that will probably be early next year. The ONLY way I see them having a Direct before Christmas is if there is an announcement of the new Club Nintendo/subscription service, Twilight Princess (but not if no other games as well, or a price drop. They tend to only have these when they are breaking news or showcasing games about to come out...not for appeasing the rumor mill

the fact that he said "the new Zelda" instead of Zelda U seems like another nail in the Wii U's coffin. Since they aren't showing until next year it's obvious to me that the concept has changed a lot and it's moving to NX. I sold my Wii U today so I will have funds for when that happens. If it should ONLY come to Wii U next year I'll get another.

They can't lower the price unless they want to take a substantial loss on each sold. Why? Because unlike the 3ds which had economies of scale (cost of manufacturing gets lower over time) the Wii U still hasn't even sold through its initial allotment manufactured. So they aren't making new consoles. There are no savings to be had because sales have been so bad. A $50 price drop was okay in 2013 because they were desperate and thought it'd be okay because they'd make that up on the software side. Well, that price drop did nothing for sales. So why bother now? I'm sure they know it's dead. The NX will be announced next year and they'll just be glad to potentially sell the remaining Wii Us they have siting at retailers and in warehouses. They aren't making any more. Thankfully Amiibo have done so well to help mitigate the disaster the Wii U has been. They either hit it out of the park with the NX or I think they'll stop making consoles altogether and maybe go 3rd party on the console side for software while still making handhelds

there are a lot of sites that just hate Nintendo. I've read most of the reviews and universally the controls are brought up as a negative. I'm thinking these hipsters need to get better at playing games. Almost every single person who bought the game and is playing it likes it from what I've read. I also think the reviewers got an early build of the game because the people that bought it don't report there being that many bugs or issues. Sound an awful like the stupid review for ZombiU which was a great game. Watch some videos of gameplay preferably someone who doesn't suck at games. It actually looks pretty damn fun! Judge for yourselves

Love these. It's what Nintendo games COULD look like if they didn't worry so much about gimmicks and tried to make the most beautiful game possible using legit engines. Nintendo is so out of touch. If the NX came out with a new Metroid or Zelda that looked this good graphically hordes of people would buy it. As is, they will be putting out a cartoony style to hide their inability to develop for HD and cheapness in using proper hardware.

Just another reason why Reggie is a complete failure. Seriously, he's a clown. NOA seems like it's run by monkeys. I can't recall a single good decision in the last 2 years.

It's no surprise that the Directs decreased alongside the prospects for the Wii U. I think due to lack of games and the obvious move to NX they haven't had the necessary announcements. I would think that Mario Maker deserves its own Direct. If not, then I wouldn't expect one until the NX is announced. Probably March or so of next year. Then they'll have a full blown E3 conference introducing it and we might never see another Direct

terrible article. you sound like an apologist for jerk behavior. He openly mocked fans with a stupid nasaly voiced impression. He gave away trade secrets/inside goings on. You don't do that. He sounds emotionally unstable as well going by his ill written FB page. Most if not all companies would do the same as nintendo. C'mon man!

the dude sounded very unprofessional. People blaming Nintendo might try actually reading what he said. He was pretty rude and belittling towards fans and was a very poor representation for the company. good riddance

As good as Nintendo has proven to be developing for less powerful older tech. Part of my thinks they do the gimmick route and weaker tech hardware because they'd be exposed trying to develop on something as powerful as the PS4. They've always had the luxury of fans saying how good they do with limited resources. If you actually gave them resources they'd have to produce something on par with the better studios. Maybe, just maybe they aren't up to the task. They've made several great games on the Wii U but not a single one has been visually impressive. Sure, considering the hardware it is. But that's what I mean. Built in excuse. There's no excuse for Star Fox looking like a PS360 game.

unless they come out with a Mario Galaxy 3 type system seller this will not do well. People already own some type of 3ds and aren't going to shell out $250 for the small differences found. An amazing game like X is too obscure to be a system seller. They will need a Mario exclusive to the system or else this will not have the sales they expect. There has to be a game(s) that appeal to the masses that cannot be played on regular 3ds. It has to prove it too. Like it has to push the New 3ds processing power so it's obvious why you would feel it's necessary to purchase one.

Personally, I sold my 3DSXL as soon as this was revealed because I am one of those that wants and enjoys the newest gaming device from Nintendo but I and others like me won't be enough. They need the casuals en masse to make the jump or to entice brand new 3ds owners to come in. I wish they'd announce they will come out for xmas in US but if not that's another lost opportunity. Being a Nintendo shareholder myself they aren't being run very well right now.

All the games that defined the systems they were on i.e. Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World, 64, Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, and SM3DW are all amazing because these are the defining games on those systems. Each game reminds you of a time in your life when you played them. For me, middle school NES, high school SNES, (I never played N64, GC), young father (wii), older father (Wii U). It's really hard to pick a best one because they all have made a big impact in your gaming life.

That said, I think Super Mario World is the best 2D platformer of all time so it's tough to not choose that. But Super Mario Galaxy is close to perfection so I can see that being the top too.

I don't have a problem with their strategy. By releasing early on the eShop they are making the game available before its physical version is ready. Never a bad thing. I think that is exactly what happened with NSLU. They were always going to have a physical copy. It was the Year of Luigi after all. I think the NES remix is more about putting games on shelves with the apparent loss of 3rd party support than anything

@Fel09ktl hey, great reading comprehension. Where did I say give up? It's been out since 2012. We know they are supporting it through 2015 with some heavy hitters coming. My contention is that based on how poorly sales have been and how Mario Kart barely moved the needle and its their biggest system seller..they just won't get the sales needed to justify supporting it past 2016. So I believe they are already aware of this and working on their next console and will probably announce it E3 2016 with a 2017 release. How exactly do you interpret that as me saying give up? I only want to give the next console the best chance possible and making great games and releasing them on a failed console instead of having them ready for the next is a failed strategy that they have proven with the 3DS and Wii U. So keep the games coming we already know about but I'd rather have Metroid launching on the next console at launch because it will help sales and also be on a more powerful machine.

Hopefully more fanboys will keep popping off about how their precious Iwata is doing such a great job.

@MoonKnight7 I said they needed a 1 million month not one million a month. Try to keep up. Let me dumb it down for you. With Mario Kart dropping as a game and also as a bundle, they needed all the people who had been sitting on the sideline waiting for the right time..to go out and finally buy a Wii U after 18 months. The amount of publicity and ads definitely got the word out. The fact is only 140k or so people purchased a Wii U. When that bump is over the numbers will revert back to where they were before (60K). For the Wii U to be a success and to keep getting support they need it to sell WAY better than it has. They need it to reach into the 20 million sold territory. System sellers are supposed to sell systems. Let me tell you...when Halo 5 drops (and maybe even that Halo special edition dropping this year) the Xbone will sell in the million(s) Not a measly 140k. When Uncharted 4 drops you can expect a major bump in PS4 sales. In fact I expect a pretty substantial bump if there is a Last of Us bundle.

There are a lot of fanboys who keep believing Nintendo are doing better because there sales look good in comparison to last year...well duh! Last year sales for the Wii U was about as bad a year for a first year gaming console there has ever been.

@midnafanboy blind fanboy

@NavySpheal they had no system sellers. They had yet another 2d Mario and NintendoLand. Then they didn't hit us with a new 1st party till Pikmin 3 which isn't exactly a top seller and then several months until 3D Mario World..then several months until DKTF....and then several months until their very first system seller Kart..and then several months until Smash. See the pattern.

@NavySpheal okay, so his successes back in 06-08 give him cart blanche for life? People act as if the man single handedly invented and produced the DS and Wii when actually many people were responsible for their successes especially the Wii which was began before he became CEO. Even with the Wii's success he made the decision to leave off blu ray, let shovelware take over, stopped supporting it, late with price drops, kept it on shelves too long (hurt the Wii U launch as people thought Wii U was a peripheral to the Wii) and being stingy with VC and not including the component cables in the box. He pretty much rode that fad with very little effort put into it post 2010.

The DS is his shinning moment and you can't find much fault with it. That said, a fad and one well done execution does not make him immune or excuse three years of losses.

@shigulicious well, because all systems have dips after big titles bump up sales and then they revert back to the mainline. Which for the Wii U has been 60K for months. It'd be great if sales remained elevated and maybe they will. But history shows that these bumps are short lived.

@Hy8ogen care to elaborate. He made the mistake of not having enough launch titles for the 3DS. He swore to not have that happen again. Literally a year later the exact thing happened with the Wii U. It's three years of losses. It's saying no to Skylanders. It's being late or early with the Wii U depending on how you look at it. It's his own words saying he'd resign if losses continued. It's the loss of 3rd party. But I guess with fanboys like you who lap up mediocrity why should he leave? You will continue to support him right?

@Twiglingen there isn't a specific number or need to sell more than their competitors. They aren't keeping up with them by the way. The Wii U has been out a year longer, has been cheaper, has way more games...and yet it still is behind. I know it seems like they hanging in there but really, as soon as the launch software drought is over for the other systems their sales will destroy the Wii Us. Again, I personally don't care as I find it to be awesome. But this is a business and Nintendo has been losing money for 3 years running. Kart was it, it was their big gun. It misfired. Saying it sold well means nothing if it didn't help move a lot of consoles which it didn't.

Why would Nintendo keep supporting a console that isn't selling? To be nice? It's already provided value for me. Each new game is just gravy. But I'd rather for Nintendo's sake they hold off on Metroid, Star Fox, Mario Galaxy, Animal Crossing for their next concole/handheld combo so they won't have the same problem with no games at launch like 3DS and Wii U. Seriously, they have to have learned their lesson right? Either way, Iwata does not survive past next year's shareholders meeting imo

@Twiglingen but they only have so many system sellers and they need those to actually sell systems. This was a minor blip on the radar. They needed a 1 million month with it reverting down to 300K between major releases. Instead, they get 140k and it will revert back to 60K. I think they are probably knee deep with there next console anyway and Zelda will be the last major release for the Wii U so they have some games ready to roll with the new system. They simply can't keep supporting this failed console. I love it, but regarding sales it's undeniably a failure and even Ninteno's biggest system seller can't really help.

I'm not sure why people are excited about 140K sold the first full month post Kart. This is abysmal. Nintendo needed massive Wii U hardware sales with Kart. 140K? Wow. Let's say that sales revert back to it's usual 60-75K until Smash and the Holidays get a similar bump up like Kart. We are talking at best 1.5 million sold through the holidays. Again, how is this good news? Increases month over month and year over year are great but if your baseline is so low you need staggering increases and this was just okay. I'm convinced the Wi U needs to be replaced sooner than later. They needed Kart to give a 1-2 million console bump and they get like 300K.

The Wii U is still great, we'll see a good amount of quality titles. But it's done. Kart was really the game that would prove it's viability and it failed.