@RedRocBoy that's the choice we consumers have to make. We want our biggest bang for the buck. You have options. You can get the stellar first party games and scant multi plats and 3rd party by buying a Wii U. You can get all that Xbox and Sony can provide with some great exclusives, lots of multi plats..but ZERO Nintendo games. Or you if you can afford it, you get multiple consoles or a PC on top of whatever you choose.
I will never buy a gaming PC. So that leaves me with a choice of either PS4 or Xbone to go with my Wii U. Having bought, played, and sold a PS4, I can attest to its improvement and value as a console over the PS3. However, it had zero games I wanted to play right now and no 3d blu ray playback. I played Forza a little on Xbone and was very impressed. But no way I am spending $500 plus on a console with very little else that excites me. So I will wait patiently for a reason I MUST own one or the other. The Wii U and 3ds have me busier than I really need to be so I am not hurting for even more games.
In my opinion, I'd rather get Nintendo games and some 3rd party games (though I rarely buy them-I do have Arkham City and ZombiU in my lineup and want to play Deus Ex, Splinter Cell, Rayman, NFSMW) than ZERO Nintendo and a bunch of watered down ports. But that is because I feel the others focus too much on fps and online games, things I am not interested in. PS4 seems like the early favorite to be my other console.
Developers can't be bothered to make games due to the low install base and gamepad. They don't feel the effort is going to be rewarded. It sucks because every once in a while a multi plat is decent. But that is extremely rare. We all knew what we were getting when we bought a Wii U. Enjoy their stellar 1st party games and anything else is icing on the cake. If you must play these games, buy a PC or PS4/Xbone. Problem solved.
@sketchturner if this is true. You can't possibly be a Nintendo fan. Maybe a fan of Zelda, or Metroid by themselves, but not Nintendo...because there are so many good 1st party games out and announced for 2014.
@electrolite77 I am not so sure they aren't working on some of these games. That quote I believe was how they don't want to churn out another game for the sake of making one. They want to make sure that it is fresh and unique and maybe with lots of their racing dev talent working on Kart 8 they don't have a vision of where they want F Zero to go. I agree it's funny hearing them talk about that when they make all these Marios. I think they kinda had to have a launch Mario for the Wii U and they had to make 3d World because they needed software badly and they already had most of the blueprint in place from 3d Land. I think 2014 might be the Wii Us finest hour. I think if at the end of 2014 if they aren't exceeding 20 million they will make other plans and fast. I am very intrigued with the thought of Star Fox with the gamepad and I bet they are feverishly working on that. It could be the defining game for the gamepad and they most likely want to take their time and make it amazing. Metroid will get an open world fps type game and people will be happy. It's the only direction I can see them taking that they haven't done before that could really energize the fanbase and appeal to fps fans from other consoles.
@Ristar42 I would say that if Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends, ZombiU and Super Mario 3d World aren't reasons to buy it now, then you are probably like millions, and better served waiting a year or two when there are hundreds of games to choose from, a price drop, and you can justify it as a second console purchase.
I know I haven't owned a PS3 but want badly to try the Uncharted games, Journey, TLOU, and others but not sure if I should just wait to get a PS4. I realize it can't play PS3 games but some are making the jump i.e. Journey, Flower, so maybe more will later on. Of course maybe the base model will hit $100 one of these days and I could just pick it up if not
@hcfwesker yeah I read it, and my remarks were directed at your friends and those like minded. I admit, I am not a big Mario 2d fan. I stopped caring after Super Mario World. I thought it hit its peak then and everything after has been superfluous. However, Super Mario Galaxy was genius and nothing like NSMB nor are either quite like Super Mario 3D World. Having not played either NSMB, NSMB 2 or NSMBU I cannot attest to how different they are to one another but from what I have read they are with some fun differences. Even if they are similar they are all on different platforms. So maybe like me, your friends assume they are similar and maybe they are and maybe they aren't. I just know there are nuances you couldn't know unless you played them and that like your friends, there are many people out there that just assume they are all the same and stopped playing Mario games as a result.
@electrolite77 I agree with some of your points. VC is a complete joke and their should be unified account systems (they are working on that). Those are my only two gripes. I don't mind that they don't shell out money to get games on their systems. I also don't fault them for demanding a certain level of product from outsiders in the past. I am sure they made their share of mistakes and are to some extent paying for it. However, the laziness you see from 3rd party devs on some games is inexcusable.. EA obviously saw the writing on the wall about Nintendo's reluctance to try and bleed the consumer dry with online, dlc, and microtransactions.That is the real reason they abandoned them. Good riddance. There aren't many games from them I care about and their games probably won't do well with core fans anyway.
@hcfwesker c'mon man. Nintendo targets the younger audience because they prefer to make family friendly co op games. In case you haven't noticed, this strategy has net them 16 billion in cash on hand, winning last gen in sales, this gen and every gen almost..in handheld sales. Seriously, they are very successful at what they do and laugh when people suggest they sell their games on other systems, or try and win over the dudebro crowd.
And if you believe Mario Galaxy, Lugii's Mansion, Super Mario 3D World, and NSMBU are the same game then that's just sad. Each game has enough differences in graphics, mechanics, and experience that simply using the same character, whether it is Mario or Donkey Kong or Samus doesn't make it boring or simple. You as a supposed Nintendo fan should know better.
As far as reasons for the Wii U 'failures' and I assume you mean lack of sales. I think having to compete with very mature ps360 bundles and massive libraries built up over years (not to mention the cheap games you could find) and the economy played the biggest role. Rayman Legends being delayed and becoming a multi plat hurt a lot too. The marketing message was garbage and they should have discontinued the wii immediately as it was confusing and it wasn't like they were supporting it anyway.
Hey as long as we get a Metroid, Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Smash and Kart, I will be more than happy. We all know we are getting those and much more so why al the hate from people who don't even own one or want to is beyond me.
@electrolite77 ha ha ha COD 1---Cod Ghosts. Each pretty much the same game just change timelines/wars/weapons. Fifa, Madden, Halo, same poopoodoodoocaca different day. Each Mario has the Mario character, but each game has new mechanics, and most times is unique to the platform it comes out on. Strange how people can call Nintendo out on supposedly the same Mario games yet I venture they never played them and are first to defend the annual AC, COD, EA release
Who is the bigger fool, the one who takes the time and effort to spread only negativity or the one who sees what's happening and chooses to engage them anyway? Knock it off with the insults and profanity please, and I'd suggest ignoring him if you truly feel he is that far beneath you — TBD
@Kirk if you don't own one, how can you intelligently speak about it? Because you played for a bit on your brother's lol. At least I am basing my opinion on experience and not from dissecting sales figures from a region who does not particularly care for Nintendo consoles.
@electrolite77 the proof is out there for you to see. When a 3rd party dev takes the time and puts in the effort to make a great game on the Wii U, the Wii U version is the best version to get, at least as proven versus the PS360. To see proof of this you only need to see NFSMW, Rayman Legends, Deus Ex. Those three games are proof the Wii U is capable of beating ps360. That in itself is not that special but it shows the tech is better than present day last gen tech. Can the Wii U keep up with next gen games? I don't know. All we've seen are lazy gimped ports i.e. COD Ghosts, AC4. Until a dev decides to truly max out a Wii U like Nintendo does we won't know. So arguing is silly. I don't think we will ever know because these devs are basing their games off the ps360 architecture to hit that huge install base. And since it is similar to the PS4 and Xbox One tech it's easier to work with. Hence the reason Wii U games aren't maximized, because it requires more effort and the Wii U install base doesn't warrant the expense in their eyes, presently.
@Kirk I don't see it as a failure. Why do you? Because of sales? So if at the end of the PS3 cycle, with all the great games it had, if it only sold 20 million you would view that as a failure? I guess I don't understand what I am supposed to be upset about. I own a Wii U. It has great games with more to come. Please enlighten me as to why I should feel down about a system I love.
@Senario I have a feeling it doesn't matter what you say to this fellow, he doesn't get it nor does he want to. Maybe he wants to feel better about his PS4 purchase after he realized it won't have any games until Q2 2014...dunno.
@Kirk defending? There's nothing to defend. They have next gen console that is providing a unique experience unlike the other two. It's cheaper, it has backwards compatibility, family friendly games, best 1st party games in the business, and free online. Is pointing those things defending it or stating facts?
I am not sure why you are downplaying the Wii U's HD. As you pointed out, this is a first for Nintendo so it's a nice change from the less than stellar Wii graphics which I will agree were not comparable. That said, there were more great wii games than on the other consoles (maybe PS3 could argue that point) as far as gameplay so graphics didn't matter as much then. Now that Nintendo has joined the HD realm, what exactly is better about the other two again? Better graphics slightly now, maybe more later? Wow, congrats on seeing that 4th fold in the dude's shirt while we only get to see 2 (and that is because the dev is too lazy to try to get it, not that it can't). I forget, is there something better than 1080p and 60fps that the other two can magically produce?
Just exactly what are you arguing about and going out of your way to talk bad about Wii for?
@Kirk Lower the price it the console! It's running last-gen specs in almost every single way and save for the GamePad and Miiverse it's doing basically nothing that the also underpowered Wii can't do.
Huh? So, besides the innovative gamepad that allows offscreen play, and has shown a lot of promise as a map, in game (Raman Legends, ZombiU, etc), and allowing 5 player local co-op...and Miiverse, which has been lauded as a huge success...yeah, besides those two integral features of the the Wii U it is just like a wii. Oh, except the games are in HD, and it can play all wii games while upscaling those to 480p.
Running specs from 8 years ago? You do realize it is running games at 1080p and 60fps. I didn't realize the ps360 was doing that at launch, or even now, or that Xbox One was even doing it on the regular. My bad I guess.
@Caryslan you are somewhat missing the point with the Mario games. NSMB2 may have been very similar but it is on a completely different platform. I had a wii but never played NSMB. So getting NSMB2 would be a new experience for me. Just like NSMBU would be a new experience for someone who had never played 1 or 2 on the wii and 3ds. Also, there are differences in gameplay so it isn't like a lazy rehash of a sports game with minimal improvements. I hear the same weak argument about WindWaker HD on the Wii U. That it is a remake of a ten year old game. How stupid? Well I never had a chance to play the original. Does that mean I shouldn't get to enjoy this awesome game?
@electrolite77 Nintendo is a business. They are more successful and more profitable than either Sony or Microsoft because they don't try to compete with specs unnecessarily. That said, they are the most innovative gaming company in history. Each generation they do something ground breaking, either with hardware, software and most times both. They don't bow down to EA and the like or buy 3rd party presence on their consoles. Sure, it costs them sales from the dudebro crowd and soccer fans around the world, but that isn't their fault, that is EA. I am not sure why people keep calling for a more powerful system when the Wii U is plenty powerful to play Wii U games and most of what 3rd party devs can throw at it. Yes, the ports are gimped and weak but again, that is not Nintendo's fault. Why is Nintendo able to make gorgeous games? Why is it when Ubisoft built Rayman Legends from ground up on Wii U, it is the definitive version with amazing gamepad use?
Let people have their fps and Fifa, everyone with kids and who likes platformers will most likely get a Wii U as their second console, just like the wii. It will sell enough to enable Nintendo to make all their great games on it for 5 years or so and then the next gen will be upon us.
It appears that the UK really doesn't care for Nintendo. For those living over there, is it lack of adverstising, dudebro consumers, waiting for price drops, or just plain don't like Nintendo? I am not one of those people that give a hoot about sales as I have a Wii U, and am enjoying it and feel it's worth the purchase, but it doesn't sound like the UK market will be there.
I can't think of one thing EA makes that I care about. I used to play NHL and Madden..way back in the day but they are just such lazy rehashes now so I don't bother. Mass Effect isn't my thing. I haven't played NFS so have very little feelings about that. I hear people always talking about the Star Wars games but to that I remind them...this is EA we are talking about. What makes you on one hand denounce their games, and weak donkey ports...and on the other...think a port of a Star Wars game to the Wii U would be any good? Really? That's why there are different consoles. Just get one of the others or play on PC.
this really has me excited. It bodes well for the Wii U. It seems like Nintendo has shown they can take 3D Land and up the ante with 3D World so I expect the same for the next Zelda game on the Wii U.
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
New Super Mario Bros. U
New Super Luigi U
Rayman Legends
Deus Ex HR
Splinter Cell Blacklist
Call of Duty Ghosts
ZombiU
Super Mario World 3D
LegoCity Undercover
Lego Marvel Superheroes
Wii Pary U
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports Club
Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD
NintendoLand
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Monster Hunter 3
Injustice God Among Us
NBA2K13
Fifa13
Call of Duty Black Ops 2
Batman Arkham City
Batman Arkham Origins
all good to great games, all in the last 12 months. Exactly what type of games or specific games would you like that the Wii U doesn't have?
@Neram NSMB sold so well because it was bundled with the console for like two years. When the NSMBU and NSLU bundles start hitting shelves that will sell consoles. Once Wii U Sports Club gets some advertisement and perhaps bundles, that will move units too
@FutureAlphaMale nobody thought W101 would be a system seller. Nobody. It was just a good game desperately needed to strengthen the Wii U library. It has a niche crowd and is way too hard for casuals to move systems. So...
it's 9 million TOTAL Wii U sold NOT 9 million this fiscal year. So they are hoping to sell 5 million by end of Q4 on top of the 3.91 million they already sold. So, while still daunting...not impossible considering the holidays are coming.
This doesn't even factor in WindWakerHD bundles and game sales. We all know that this was well received globally. All three console makers should not expect to duplicate past gen numbers. The Xbox sold so much because people had to buy multiple consoles due to failure. The PS3 because it was a blu ray players as well, and the Wii because it was a casual gamer fad. I think Nintendo should hope to get 7-8 million by Christmas and 15 million by Xmas 2014 when it should have a very deep library of games including heavy hitters Smash Brothers, Mario Kart 8, and most likely word of a Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Zelda and "X" to keep people excited. If at the end of this gen the Wii U sells 20 million they should consider themselves lucky. Anything more than that will be gravy in this economy. I see around 40 million for the PS4 and slightly less for Xbox One. But Nintendo will make the most profit due to the DS handheld families and their software.
I played and beat Asylum on Xbox 360 and I bought but haven't played City on my Wii U. I loved Asylum so I am excited for City. I have to say. This game does NOT look very good. I don't know if it's the weak lips moving when he and Alfred are talking, or that a different team made it. But I have a bad feeling this won't measure up to the previous ones.
This game will be a massive failure. It will sell barely any copies. SE...it's been nice knowing ya. Not because of the size, but because it's pretty apparent that Nintendo fans don't buy these types of games especially with what is out now and coming out to compete with it, and because it's an older port and the install base is still so low. I wish it was different but besides a few AAA titles, 3rd party won't ever do well on the Wii U. I'm okay with that because I bought for the exclusives anyway.
Hand Holding? Yeah, I can see how they do that a lot in the Zelda games. However, there are still parts of their games that no matter what hand holding they do, you cannot figure it out and progress without getting help via walkthrough or cheats. Seriously these games are next to impossible to complete 100% without assistance. So I could do with less of the camera pans but more actual hints when you reach a point you are stuck at for an hour.
no denying that this blows. that said, the fall is packed with many many games especially 3rd party. 3d Word looks amazing and I imagine they will have some great bundles with those Mario and Luigi wiimotion plus controllers. People saying 2014 looks slow. Huh? How do you figure. They will have 2 of their biggest sellers coming out in Super Smash Brothers and MarioKart plus another strong title in Bayonetta 2. Now with Donkey Kong that is 4 very good games confirmed for 2014. I'm sure there are several not announced and a multitude of 3rd parties as well. Besides, we'll have PS4 to play as well. How much time do you people have to game??? lol
Started playing a couple of days ago and have to admit the first couple of hours were meh. However, as soon as the wolf sequence is over it ramps it up quite a bit. Very challenging and rewarding. I have gotten that 'chill' you get when you do or experience something that reinforces your love of gaming. Can't believe it took me so long to finally get into it.
Don't laugh, but although I like the gamepad, I feel that all the Wii U needed to do was to add HD and improve on the wii motion controls. Make the sensor bar better, tighten up the motions, and introduce more mature themed games with great graphics to entice the 'hardcore' gamers while at the same time updating the look of their first party staples. The motion controllers are great with FPS so why not make a new IP that caters to that segment? Sports games using the Wiimotes can all stand to be improved. The balance board could have been vastly improved to achieve more realism. The problem the Wii had was graphics and lack of games besides all the shovelware. Going to HD and focusing on their strengths could have gone a long way to getting people to update. Kinda how KInect 2.0 is supposed to be such an upgrade, the wii motion plus could be too. I like the gamepad but aside from very niche uses it isn't the same wow factor as the wii motion was playing wii sports.
@Scollurio that's what I don't understand about people and their expectations. You say no 'revolutionary' use of the gamepad...yet...Nintendo is the only one who has provided a second screen experience with their console for off tv use. THAT has not been done ever before. We all get that the 1st party games have been slow to come out. But I am sure they have several compelling games that use the gamepad well.
I wonder with them doing away with the white version and replacing it with the black 32gb version, if down the road they are setting it up so they can offer a version with more HDD for $350. That in a Mario 3d bundle or Wii U Party (w/wii motion controller bundle) would be a system seller
@Dazza I guess I was wrong. It sounded like you were bashing the Wii U but like another poster said, you were simply pointing out how many erroneously perceive it. I am a little sensitive because I feel like I have to constantly defend the Wii U on other sites and didn't want to do it here lol. Thanks for taking the time to clarify
@MeWario I didn't get that at all. He clearly states that the Wii being 'last gen' technology needed a price drop in order to compete with PS4 and Xbox One. If he was saying it ironically he would have made it more clear. I get enough of that b.s. on IGN, I don't need to hear it on here as well
@theblackdragon nobody but Sony fans are saying the Wii U is current gen. The definition of 'next gen' alone warrants its designation. The fact it is more powerful by a lot further justifies it.
@Kodeen lmao. nice try. I suppose there really is no difference between NSMB and NSMBU then? ha ha. Those Murphy levels aren't up for debate. It's simply some of the best uses of the gamepad that has been done. Not liking them is not an option. Anyone who doesn't appreciate it just doesn't get the Wii U and should refrain from making idiotic comments like the Wii U version is on par with PS360
@Kodeen are you arguing that the PS360 versions look as good? If they do then that is Ubisoft's fault for not utilizing the Wii U better. If you are saying in general then lol at you. The Murphy sections were designed for gamepad use. It's an awesome part of the game that he apparently does not care for which is why he likes using analog stick on PS360. That is laughable. Why are you being an apologist?
IGN has lost all credibility. When asked which version of the game he found best the reviewer said PS360 or Wii U. So, he gave no credit to the Wii U for the gamepad use, graphical superiority or that the game was designed for the Wii U. It's like IGN refuses to give props to the Wii U. Thank God for sites like this one. We know the Wii U is the definitive version I just wish the Sony fanboys at IGN could admit it too
Looks great. Hey, another way Nintendo can differentiate themselves by being able to alter the look of the gamepad in bundles i.e. Wind Waker, Metroid (if they ever do this take my money!!), Maro. Very nice indeed. Will need to pick this bundle up as I have never played WW.
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@RedRocBoy that's the choice we consumers have to make. We want our biggest bang for the buck. You have options. You can get the stellar first party games and scant multi plats and 3rd party by buying a Wii U. You can get all that Xbox and Sony can provide with some great exclusives, lots of multi plats..but ZERO Nintendo games. Or you if you can afford it, you get multiple consoles or a PC on top of whatever you choose.
I will never buy a gaming PC. So that leaves me with a choice of either PS4 or Xbone to go with my Wii U. Having bought, played, and sold a PS4, I can attest to its improvement and value as a console over the PS3. However, it had zero games I wanted to play right now and no 3d blu ray playback. I played Forza a little on Xbone and was very impressed. But no way I am spending $500 plus on a console with very little else that excites me. So I will wait patiently for a reason I MUST own one or the other.
The Wii U and 3ds have me busier than I really need to be so I am not hurting for even more games.
In my opinion, I'd rather get Nintendo games and some 3rd party games (though I rarely buy them-I do have Arkham City and ZombiU in my lineup and want to play Deus Ex, Splinter Cell, Rayman, NFSMW) than ZERO Nintendo and a bunch of watered down ports. But that is because I feel the others focus too much on fps and online games, things I am not interested in. PS4 seems like the early favorite to be my other console.
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Developers can't be bothered to make games due to the low install base and gamepad. They don't feel the effort is going to be rewarded. It sucks because every once in a while a multi plat is decent. But that is extremely rare. We all knew what we were getting when we bought a Wii U. Enjoy their stellar 1st party games and anything else is icing on the cake. If you must play these games, buy a PC or PS4/Xbone. Problem solved.
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@sketchturner if this is true. You can't possibly be a Nintendo fan. Maybe a fan of Zelda, or Metroid by themselves, but not Nintendo...because there are so many good 1st party games out and announced for 2014.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@electrolite77 I am not so sure they aren't working on some of these games. That quote I believe was how they don't want to churn out another game for the sake of making one. They want to make sure that it is fresh and unique and maybe with lots of their racing dev talent working on Kart 8 they don't have a vision of where they want F Zero to go. I agree it's funny hearing them talk about that when they make all these Marios. I think they kinda had to have a launch Mario for the Wii U and they had to make 3d World because they needed software badly and they already had most of the blueprint in place from 3d Land. I think 2014 might be the Wii Us finest hour. I think if at the end of 2014 if they aren't exceeding 20 million they will make other plans and fast. I am very intrigued with the thought of Star Fox with the gamepad and I bet they are feverishly working on that. It could be the defining game for the gamepad and they most likely want to take their time and make it amazing. Metroid will get an open world fps type game and people will be happy. It's the only direction I can see them taking that they haven't done before that could really energize the fanbase and appeal to fps fans from other consoles.
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@Ristar42 I would say that if Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends, ZombiU and Super Mario 3d World aren't reasons to buy it now, then you are probably like millions, and better served waiting a year or two when there are hundreds of games to choose from, a price drop, and you can justify it as a second console purchase.
I know I haven't owned a PS3 but want badly to try the Uncharted games, Journey, TLOU, and others but not sure if I should just wait to get a PS4. I realize it can't play PS3 games but some are making the jump i.e. Journey, Flower, so maybe more will later on. Of course maybe the base model will hit $100 one of these days and I could just pick it up if not
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@hcfwesker yeah I read it, and my remarks were directed at your friends and those like minded. I admit, I am not a big Mario 2d fan. I stopped caring after Super Mario World. I thought it hit its peak then and everything after has been superfluous. However, Super Mario Galaxy was genius and nothing like NSMB nor are either quite like Super Mario 3D World. Having not played either NSMB, NSMB 2 or NSMBU I cannot attest to how different they are to one another but from what I have read they are with some fun differences. Even if they are similar they are all on different platforms. So maybe like me, your friends assume they are similar and maybe they are and maybe they aren't. I just know there are nuances you couldn't know unless you played them and that like your friends, there are many people out there that just assume they are all the same and stopped playing Mario games as a result.
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@electrolite77 I agree with some of your points. VC is a complete joke and their should be unified account systems (they are working on that). Those are my only two gripes. I don't mind that they don't shell out money to get games on their systems. I also don't fault them for demanding a certain level of product from outsiders in the past. I am sure they made their share of mistakes and are to some extent paying for it. However, the laziness you see from 3rd party devs on some games is inexcusable.. EA obviously saw the writing on the wall about Nintendo's reluctance to try and bleed the consumer dry with online, dlc, and microtransactions.That is the real reason they abandoned them. Good riddance. There aren't many games from them I care about and their games probably won't do well with core fans anyway.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@hcfwesker c'mon man. Nintendo targets the younger audience because they prefer to make family friendly co op games. In case you haven't noticed, this strategy has net them 16 billion in cash on hand, winning last gen in sales, this gen and every gen almost..in handheld sales. Seriously, they are very successful at what they do and laugh when people suggest they sell their games on other systems, or try and win over the dudebro crowd.
And if you believe Mario Galaxy, Lugii's Mansion, Super Mario 3D World, and NSMBU are the same game then that's just sad. Each game has enough differences in graphics, mechanics, and experience that simply using the same character, whether it is Mario or Donkey Kong or Samus doesn't make it boring or simple. You as a supposed Nintendo fan should know better.
As far as reasons for the Wii U 'failures' and I assume you mean lack of sales. I think having to compete with very mature ps360 bundles and massive libraries built up over years (not to mention the cheap games you could find) and the economy played the biggest role. Rayman Legends being delayed and becoming a multi plat hurt a lot too. The marketing message was garbage and they should have discontinued the wii immediately as it was confusing and it wasn't like they were supporting it anyway.
Hey as long as we get a Metroid, Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Smash and Kart, I will be more than happy. We all know we are getting those and much more so why al the hate from people who don't even own one or want to is beyond me.
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@electrolite77 ha ha ha COD 1---Cod Ghosts. Each pretty much the same game just change timelines/wars/weapons. Fifa, Madden, Halo, same poopoodoodoocaca different day. Each Mario has the Mario character, but each game has new mechanics, and most times is unique to the platform it comes out on. Strange how people can call Nintendo out on supposedly the same Mario games yet I venture they never played them and are first to defend the annual AC, COD, EA release
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Who is the bigger fool, the one who takes the time and effort to spread only negativity or the one who sees what's happening and chooses to engage them anyway? Knock it off with the insults and profanity please, and I'd suggest ignoring him if you truly feel he is that far beneath you — TBD
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Kirk if you don't own one, how can you intelligently speak about it? Because you played for a bit on your brother's lol. At least I am basing my opinion on experience and not from dissecting sales figures from a region who does not particularly care for Nintendo consoles.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@electrolite77 the proof is out there for you to see. When a 3rd party dev takes the time and puts in the effort to make a great game on the Wii U, the Wii U version is the best version to get, at least as proven versus the PS360. To see proof of this you only need to see NFSMW, Rayman Legends, Deus Ex. Those three games are proof the Wii U is capable of beating ps360. That in itself is not that special but it shows the tech is better than present day last gen tech. Can the Wii U keep up with next gen games? I don't know. All we've seen are lazy gimped ports i.e. COD Ghosts, AC4. Until a dev decides to truly max out a Wii U like Nintendo does we won't know. So arguing is silly. I don't think we will ever know because these devs are basing their games off the ps360 architecture to hit that huge install base. And since it is similar to the PS4 and Xbox One tech it's easier to work with. Hence the reason Wii U games aren't maximized, because it requires more effort and the Wii U install base doesn't warrant the expense in their eyes, presently.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Kirk I don't see it as a failure. Why do you? Because of sales? So if at the end of the PS3 cycle, with all the great games it had, if it only sold 20 million you would view that as a failure? I guess I don't understand what I am supposed to be upset about. I own a Wii U. It has great games with more to come. Please enlighten me as to why I should feel down about a system I love.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Senario I have a feeling it doesn't matter what you say to this fellow, he doesn't get it nor does he want to. Maybe he wants to feel better about his PS4 purchase after he realized it won't have any games until Q2 2014...dunno.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Kirk defending? There's nothing to defend. They have next gen console that is providing a unique experience unlike the other two. It's cheaper, it has backwards compatibility, family friendly games, best 1st party games in the business, and free online. Is pointing those things defending it or stating facts?
I am not sure why you are downplaying the Wii U's HD. As you pointed out, this is a first for Nintendo so it's a nice change from the less than stellar Wii graphics which I will agree were not comparable. That said, there were more great wii games than on the other consoles (maybe PS3 could argue that point) as far as gameplay so graphics didn't matter as much then. Now that Nintendo has joined the HD realm, what exactly is better about the other two again? Better graphics slightly now, maybe more later? Wow, congrats on seeing that 4th fold in the dude's shirt while we only get to see 2 (and that is because the dev is too lazy to try to get it, not that it can't). I forget, is there something better than 1080p and 60fps that the other two can magically produce?
Just exactly what are you arguing about and going out of your way to talk bad about Wii for?
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Kirk
Lower the price it the console! It's running last-gen specs in almost every single way and save for the GamePad and Miiverse it's doing basically nothing that the also underpowered Wii can't do.
Huh? So, besides the innovative gamepad that allows offscreen play, and has shown a lot of promise as a map, in game (Raman Legends, ZombiU, etc), and allowing 5 player local co-op...and Miiverse, which has been lauded as a huge success...yeah, besides those two integral features of the the Wii U it is just like a wii. Oh, except the games are in HD, and it can play all wii games while upscaling those to 480p.
Running specs from 8 years ago? You do realize it is running games at 1080p and 60fps. I didn't realize the ps360 was doing that at launch, or even now, or that Xbox One was even doing it on the regular. My bad I guess.
Troll much?
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@Caryslan you are somewhat missing the point with the Mario games. NSMB2 may have been very similar but it is on a completely different platform. I had a wii but never played NSMB. So getting NSMB2 would be a new experience for me. Just like NSMBU would be a new experience for someone who had never played 1 or 2 on the wii and 3ds. Also, there are differences in gameplay so it isn't like a lazy rehash of a sports game with minimal improvements. I hear the same weak argument about WindWaker HD on the Wii U. That it is a remake of a ten year old game. How stupid? Well I never had a chance to play the original. Does that mean I shouldn't get to enjoy this awesome game?
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
@electrolite77 Nintendo is a business. They are more successful and more profitable than either Sony or Microsoft because they don't try to compete with specs unnecessarily. That said, they are the most innovative gaming company in history. Each generation they do something ground breaking, either with hardware, software and most times both. They don't bow down to EA and the like or buy 3rd party presence on their consoles. Sure, it costs them sales from the dudebro crowd and soccer fans around the world, but that isn't their fault, that is EA. I am not sure why people keep calling for a more powerful system when the Wii U is plenty powerful to play Wii U games and most of what 3rd party devs can throw at it. Yes, the ports are gimped and weak but again, that is not Nintendo's fault. Why is Nintendo able to make gorgeous games? Why is it when Ubisoft built Rayman Legends from ground up on Wii U, it is the definitive version with amazing gamepad use?
Let people have their fps and Fifa, everyone with kids and who likes platformers will most likely get a Wii U as their second console, just like the wii. It will sell enough to enable Nintendo to make all their great games on it for 5 years or so and then the next gen will be upon us.
Re: Super Mario 3D World Struggles Against PS4 Titles in UK Charts
@BlackStar9000 which games do you feel left out of?
Re: Super Mario 3D World Struggles Against PS4 Titles in UK Charts
It appears that the UK really doesn't care for Nintendo. For those living over there, is it lack of adverstising, dudebro consumers, waiting for price drops, or just plain don't like Nintendo? I am not one of those people that give a hoot about sales as I have a Wii U, and am enjoying it and feel it's worth the purchase, but it doesn't sound like the UK market will be there.
Re: Talking Point: The GamePad and its Role Defining the Wii U
@oreqano because he is a troll that's why
Re: EA Germany Survey Fails To Acknowledge The Wii U
I can't think of one thing EA makes that I care about. I used to play NHL and Madden..way back in the day but they are just such lazy rehashes now so I don't bother. Mass Effect isn't my thing. I haven't played NFS so have very little feelings about that. I hear people always talking about the Star Wars games but to that I remind them...this is EA we are talking about. What makes you on one hand denounce their games, and weak donkey ports...and on the other...think a port of a Star Wars game to the Wii U would be any good? Really? That's why there are different consoles. Just get one of the others or play on PC.
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (3DS)
this really has me excited. It bodes well for the Wii U. It seems like Nintendo has shown they can take 3D Land and up the ante with 3D World so I expect the same for the next Zelda game on the Wii U.
Re: Nintendo Releases Handy Wii U Comparison Chart
@DarkKirby no games for it?
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
New Super Mario Bros. U
New Super Luigi U
Rayman Legends
Deus Ex HR
Splinter Cell Blacklist
Call of Duty Ghosts
ZombiU
Super Mario World 3D
LegoCity Undercover
Lego Marvel Superheroes
Wii Pary U
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports Club
Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD
NintendoLand
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Monster Hunter 3
Injustice God Among Us
NBA2K13
Fifa13
Call of Duty Black Ops 2
Batman Arkham City
Batman Arkham Origins
all good to great games, all in the last 12 months. Exactly what type of games or specific games would you like that the Wii U doesn't have?
Re: Nintendo Releases Handy Wii U Comparison Chart
@GamerJunkie only 1-2 a year? Hmmm...okay. Let's see.
2013:
Pikmin 3
Wind Waker HD
Wii Fit U
Wii Party U
Super Luigi U
Super Mario World 3D
Wii Sports Club
Game & Wario
2014
Donkey Kong Country Returns Tropical Freeze
Super Smash Brothers U
MarioKart 8
Yarn Yoshi
Zelda U?
new IP??
translation...I don't believe you
Please watch the profanity and insults — TBD
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Ambitious Sales Targets Require Runaway Holiday Success
@Neram NSMB sold so well because it was bundled with the console for like two years. When the NSMBU and NSLU bundles start hitting shelves that will sell consoles. Once Wii U Sports Club gets some advertisement and perhaps bundles, that will move units too
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Ambitious Sales Targets Require Runaway Holiday Success
@FutureAlphaMale nobody thought W101 would be a system seller. Nobody. It was just a good game desperately needed to strengthen the Wii U library. It has a niche crowd and is way too hard for casuals to move systems. So...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Ambitious Sales Targets Require Runaway Holiday Success
it's 9 million TOTAL Wii U sold NOT 9 million this fiscal year. So they are hoping to sell 5 million by end of Q4 on top of the 3.91 million they already sold. So, while still daunting...not impossible considering the holidays are coming.
Re: Nintendo Financial Reports Bring Minor Profit, 3DS Success and More Wii U Struggles
This doesn't even factor in WindWakerHD bundles and game sales. We all know that this was well received globally. All three console makers should not expect to duplicate past gen numbers. The Xbox sold so much because people had to buy multiple consoles due to failure. The PS3 because it was a blu ray players as well, and the Wii because it was a casual gamer fad. I think Nintendo should hope to get 7-8 million by Christmas and 15 million by Xmas 2014 when it should have a very deep library of games including heavy hitters Smash Brothers, Mario Kart 8, and most likely word of a Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Zelda and "X" to keep people excited. If at the end of this gen the Wii U sells 20 million they should consider themselves lucky. Anything more than that will be gravy in this economy. I see around 40 million for the PS4 and slightly less for Xbox One. But Nintendo will make the most profit due to the DS handheld families and their software.
Re: Video: Holy PR Hype! It's a 17 Minute Batman: Arkham Origins Gameplay Walkthrough
I played and beat Asylum on Xbox 360 and I bought but haven't played City on my Wii U. I loved Asylum so I am excited for City. I have to say. This game does NOT look very good. I don't know if it's the weak lips moving when he and Alfred are talking, or that a different team made it. But I have a bad feeling this won't measure up to the previous ones.
Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut Is A 14GB Download On Wii U
This game will be a massive failure. It will sell barely any copies. SE...it's been nice knowing ya. Not because of the size, but because it's pretty apparent that Nintendo fans don't buy these types of games especially with what is out now and coming out to compete with it, and because it's an older port and the install base is still so low. I wish it was different but besides a few AAA titles, 3rd party won't ever do well on the Wii U. I'm okay with that because I bought for the exclusives anyway.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Wants it to be "Fun To Get Stuck" in A Link Between Worlds
Hand Holding? Yeah, I can see how they do that a lot in the Zelda games. However, there are still parts of their games that no matter what hand holding they do, you cannot figure it out and progress without getting help via walkthrough or cheats. Seriously these games are next to impossible to complete 100% without assistance. So I could do with less of the camera pans but more actual hints when you reach a point you are stuck at for an hour.
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Delayed Until Early 2014
no denying that this blows. that said, the fall is packed with many many games especially 3rd party. 3d Word looks amazing and I imagine they will have some great bundles with those Mario and Luigi wiimotion plus controllers. People saying 2014 looks slow. Huh? How do you figure. They will have 2 of their biggest sellers coming out in Super Smash Brothers and MarioKart plus another strong title in Bayonetta 2. Now with Donkey Kong that is 4 very good games confirmed for 2014. I'm sure there are several not announced and a multitude of 3rd parties as well. Besides, we'll have PS4 to play as well. How much time do you people have to game??? lol
Re: Video: Epic Launch Trailer Shows Off The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
just FYI, Newegg has the Zelda bundle for $279.99 using SAVE10SEP25Z at checkout
Re: Video: These Sonic Lost World Bosses Look Rather Fun
this is looking better and better. I will get this eventually
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Started playing a couple of days ago and have to admit the first couple of hours were meh. However, as soon as the wolf sequence is over it ramps it up quite a bit. Very challenging and rewarding. I have gotten that 'chill' you get when you do or experience something that reinforces your love of gaming. Can't believe it took me so long to finally get into it.
Re: Ubisoft's Child of Light Set to Shine on the Wii U
pretty but the game mechanics look meh. I guess I am not a fan of turn based at all
Re: Talking Point: With Calls for Nintendo to Follow the Crowd, It Faces a Dilemma
Don't laugh, but although I like the gamepad, I feel that all the Wii U needed to do was to add HD and improve on the wii motion controls. Make the sensor bar better, tighten up the motions, and introduce more mature themed games with great graphics to entice the 'hardcore' gamers while at the same time updating the look of their first party staples. The motion controllers are great with FPS so why not make a new IP that caters to that segment? Sports games using the Wiimotes can all stand to be improved. The balance board could have been vastly improved to achieve more realism. The problem the Wii had was graphics and lack of games besides all the shovelware. Going to HD and focusing on their strengths could have gone a long way to getting people to update. Kinda how KInect 2.0 is supposed to be such an upgrade, the wii motion plus could be too. I like the gamepad but aside from very niche uses it isn't the same wow factor as the wii motion was playing wii sports.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May Be Playing Catch-Up With Some Developers, But Money Always Talks
@Scollurio that's what I don't understand about people and their expectations. You say no 'revolutionary' use of the gamepad...yet...Nintendo is the only one who has provided a second screen experience with their console for off tv use. THAT has not been done ever before. We all get that the 1st party games have been slow to come out. But I am sure they have several compelling games that use the gamepad well.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
I wonder with them doing away with the white version and replacing it with the black 32gb version, if down the road they are setting it up so they can offer a version with more HDD for $350. That in a Mario 3d bundle or Wii U Party (w/wii motion controller bundle) would be a system seller
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@Dazza I guess I was wrong. It sounded like you were bashing the Wii U but like another poster said, you were simply pointing out how many erroneously perceive it. I am a little sensitive because I feel like I have to constantly defend the Wii U on other sites and didn't want to do it here lol. Thanks for taking the time to clarify
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@MeWario I didn't get that at all. He clearly states that the Wii being 'last gen' technology needed a price drop in order to compete with PS4 and Xbox One. If he was saying it ironically he would have made it more clear. I get enough of that b.s. on IGN, I don't need to hear it on here as well
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@theblackdragon nobody but Sony fans are saying the Wii U is current gen. The definition of 'next gen' alone warrants its designation. The fact it is more powerful by a lot further justifies it.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
LOL at Darren saying the Wii U is 'last gen' technology. Please go write on a Sony/Microsoft site and leave us Nintendo fans to our own devices.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Confirmed for 4th October in North America
@Cohort having owned the ZombiU bundle and then selling. I for one am going to buy a WWHD bundle for sure
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@Kodeen lmao. nice try. I suppose there really is no difference between NSMB and NSMBU then? ha ha. Those Murphy levels aren't up for debate. It's simply some of the best uses of the gamepad that has been done. Not liking them is not an option. Anyone who doesn't appreciate it just doesn't get the Wii U and should refrain from making idiotic comments like the Wii U version is on par with PS360
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@Kodeen are you arguing that the PS360 versions look as good? If they do then that is Ubisoft's fault for not utilizing the Wii U better. If you are saying in general then lol at you. The Murphy sections were designed for gamepad use. It's an awesome part of the game that he apparently does not care for which is why he likes using analog stick on PS360. That is laughable. Why are you being an apologist?
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
IGN has lost all credibility. When asked which version of the game he found best the reviewer said PS360 or Wii U. So, he gave no credit to the Wii U for the gamepad use, graphical superiority or that the game was designed for the Wii U. It's like IGN refuses to give props to the Wii U. Thank God for sites like this one. We know the Wii U is the definitive version I just wish the Sony fanboys at IGN could admit it too
Re: Rumour: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Trailer Shows a Special Edition Wii U Design
Looks great. Hey, another way Nintendo can differentiate themselves by being able to alter the look of the gamepad in bundles i.e. Wind Waker, Metroid (if they ever do this take my money!!), Maro. Very nice indeed. Will need to pick this bundle up as I have never played WW.
Re: Monochroma Hits Funding Target to Confirm Multi-Platform Release, Including Wii U
Limbo clone