Poll: Do You Want The Rumoured 'MH' Next Generation Portable to be Separate from NX?

So everywhere I keep reading MH isn't even an actual rumour, just some investor firm utterly speculating. Why is NintendoLife still going on about this thing? I know there's not a lot of news surrounding Nintendo, but don't go on about fake shit.

Alright Nintendo, it's time to come clean and spill the beans.

I would much prefer NX to be a separate handheld and console that can play the same game. It would be a much better deal for me, and there would likely be less game droughts.

Guys they debunked this rumors hours ago. It was like a typo. I know there isn't much in the way of Nintendo news, but PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NON-NEWS CRUD.

Every time the slightest rumor comes out, NL jumps on the hype train with a bunch of articles. Calm down. I love NL but their eagerness to promote rumors is a little disheartening.

We've seen one article mention a MH. Slow down.

Why is this article a thing. Serkan Toto already debunked the rumor as mere speculation at best.

already debunked its on nintendoeverythings site

@Wouwter Slow news day

@Wouwter I was about to mention this lol

There's too little information about whatever the MH is, so I'm not paying it much attention yet

If it is indeed seperate from the NX then I would very much appreciate being able to download all my 3DS games on to it via backwards compatibility.

@crimsontadpoles It's not even a thing. It was them merely picturing a scenario.

MH doesn't exist.

Already debunked. Why are you even doing this? This is just plain ridiculous.

How are they ever going to support 2 systems at the same time? They can't. I thought that was the whole point of NX, to have their home console and handheld development combined so they can pool their resources and put out more games. Which they need. Badly. :/

edit Oh so apparently it's a false rumour? Thank goodness.

Aw, c'mon guys! Aren't we the ones who take every rumor seriously and debate it to no end like it was fact and the world would not exist tomorrow if it was considered a rumor in the slightest?
_{In all seriousness, though... this article is completely unnecessary and quite ridiculous... the MH thingy was already proved false.}

I think one way or another this is true. Nintendo are making a portable console, but they are also making a new home console (NX). What is not to say that this portable console is part of the NX. Like PS4 and PSvita can work together, but you have to buy them separately to get the full experience. I wish these rumours would stop and Nintendo would just give a date of then they are going to reveal what they plan to do with their next hardware; even if it is in September, just say September. But I'm guessing, they may still not know themselves.

I seem to be in the minority who would still like there to be separate home and portable consoles. It has the possibility to raise the price too high for many people (a problem with the Wii U), if it fails then Nintendo will have destroyed both their console and handhold market in one go, and two separate consoles tends to mean twice as many games since companies will be making for Wii U and 3DS as opposed to just one system

Ever since the first mention of NX, I've thought it was going to be a home console and handheld, sold separately, that play the same games, like IOS devices and Apple TV, or android phones/tablets and android micro-consoles. Not really seen anything that rules that out yet.

That is for sure a very premature poll...

I love the 3DS.. I actually enjoy Nintendo handhelds more than the consoles. I am really hoping on a successor to the 3DS, it's been due for a while. I'm hoping it's a whole new handheld rather than something linked to NX, but whatever happens happens.

Edit: after reading the comments I'm pretty disappointed. This isn't even a thing, can you just stop with the articles?

Well, visiting this page still pays NL's bills, no matter what criticism they get, so if they post another MH rumor article, just don't even bother going to it.

....But still. Miyamoto Hotness.

Oh yeah.

@theberrage But then, wouldn't they have to pick up the beans if they spilled them? And clean up after themselves if they were already soaked or cooked?

@PlywoodStick We can pick them up for them.

I thought this rumour was dead and buried. Guess not.

Nintendo consoles do generate more speculation than the others.
This is obviously due to the abnormal aspects of their consoles.

After the Wii the question was what genius will they come up with next after the wiimote.

After the Wii U it is now a question of what ridiculous idea they have in mind after the gamepad.

After the 3DS and a rapidly diminishing handheld market people keen to see how they revitalise said market.

So yeah, plenty more rumours and speculation to come.

@theberrage But then, wouldn't there be a bean feeding frenzy? Thus beginning the conflict between the Bean Devourers and Bean Hoarders?

@Peach64 That's pretty much what I think the NX will be: a family of hardware devices that share the same or a very similar software library, at least from a 1st party perspective. Nintendo has debunked the idea that their next gaming products will merge into a singular handheld/home console hybrid device, so it surprises me that people still believe in that theory.

Besides all of this news already being debunked and all:
"Do You Want The Rumoured 'MH' Next Generation Portable to be Separate from NX?"
If it were true, yes of course, but only when entirely in line with the rumored shared environment that Iwata himself also alluded to with his 'console and handheld will be like brothers' statement during one of his last interviews, because that would mean that both console and handheld can play the same games, albeit scaled up or down as required by the hardware, so only one game would have to be made.

And THAT is how they could support two systems, @CB85

And all that could also give more credibility to the cartridge rumor, because disc-based media in a handheld is a definite 'not going to happen' in Nintendo's case. And surely they're not going to ape the PSP more than a decade after the fact...

Surely there will also be handheld-only or console-only games (some indies liking handheld development better anyways) but overall, more games could be made simultaneously because most of them would work on both systems, using fast and long lasting 64GB carts (or higher when needed).

All in all, the future does seem to be an interesting adventure either way, even without this already debunked rumor...

Why not Metroid Hunters? Although I want a more isolated singleplayer Metroid. I wasn't a fan of Metroid Prime Hunters.

No and as I posted earlier in the original story about the rumour, it has been debunked. The NX portable has to interact with the NX console in a meaningful and significant way.

I see you chose some of my suggestions for its codename but not the best one, imo, Mushroom Hallucinations.

@Project_Dolphin This isn't referring to NX. This is referring to MH, which was a hypothetical next generation handheld that Morgan Stanley used to picture a scenario for financial purposes.

Serkan Toto already debunked this "rumor". A handheld that has the codename MH doesn't exist.

Miaymoto hotness. 😋

Debunked or not it did spark some interesting ideas. While we're talking about debunked rumors, what about those old rumors about Nintendo's new systems running android? I can imagine a future in which Nintendo creates a smartphone similar to those haptic feedback patents, running their own software, a shared interface with NX, but able to connect to a third party app store like an android device. This would marry nicely with their current forays into mobile gaming and the messaging the company is sending that they want to use mobile devices to funnel players back to their dedicated hardware. The smartphone could even be used as an alternate controller for NX, similar to how 3DS works with smash bros. now, or as a secondary device with the NX similar to a Wii-U gamepad. I mean hey, probably not the case but I can dream right?

I just want something that makes future Etrian Odyssey games possible, with the map drawing at the bottom of the main screen and all

Damn. Nintendo news is so slow that there are polls for rumors that have already been debunked.

As I recall, there were rumors at one point saying that the NX would be a console/handheld hybrid, but that Nintendo wouldn't release both simultaneously. At the time, I think the idea was for the console to release in November and the handheld to release in March. Two systems, independent but unified. If this was the case, it would make sense if they had different codenames, even though they'd still be, to some degree, one platform.

Honestly, I'll be happy whether Nintendo's next systems are individual or hybrid, as long as the games keep coming (I do want various other features of course, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't buy the next system regardless, especially when I see Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, etc).

I'd prefer the NX and MH to be separate, but what I suspect is that the NX will be the home unit and the MH will be the portable unit with either a PS Vita/PS TV relationship or something like the rumors for the PS4 and PS4K where games will need to be developed for both hardware sets and the system detects which hardware is being used and runs that version of the game accordingly.

Personally, I find the latter to be unlikely, but the former raises the concerns of the NX/MH being an awkward mix of a really weak console and a really beefy handheld, and I'm not sure that would be for the best. Then again, it's Nintendo; they'll probably do something totally bizarre that works wonderfully (regardless of whether or not it turns out to be a commercial success).

I want a separate unit for the handheld. But I want to to be inherently and easily tied into the home console.

Like if every DS or GBA virtual console game on Wii u had the ability to use 3ds systems for multiplayer on games that had single pak multiplayer.

Or if they re release four swords adventures, it could take care of that.

@DarthNocturnal But some people might not be able to afford a console-handheld hybrid in one go. With a handheld and console separate release, you can buy one, and then buy the other when you have enough money. That way you can play games on a new system sooner. If the NX was a hybrid of a console and a handheld, then you would have to save up and buy what is effectively two consoles at the same time. This might also put off many people on the market who are just looking for a console or a handheld, for instance if someone had a PS4 but wanted a portable console to take with them, or had a 3DS and wanted a home console, then they would likely not go for the one which is twice as expensive as it needs to be since it contains two consoles. So that's why I'm very wary of the rumours that the NX is a hybrid of the two gaming methods.

I did not know about the two teams merging though, so I was very wrong on that front

This has been my guess since the start. Two versions of the same thing. Console with hd output and handheld with a lower resolution. Games on cards to facilitate cross system usage. Play Animal Crossing NX on the tv at home, pop the card out and into the NX mobile and keep playing! Both sold separately. Not a handheld fan? Don't but the mobile. Also ensures Nintendo will avoid the one or the other droughts they've had issues with

Why are we always so eager to replace everything?

Can't we for once just appreciate the consoles we currently have? Within a year of NX's release, we're going to be talking about what the next Nintendo console should/will be like.

Give us a powerful, traditional home console with that unique Nintendo innovation.

Same goes for a standalone portable, like the 3DS but without the 3D and XL screens as standard. I genuinely think there's still a market there for this.

@NoxAeturnus Sounds more like a nightmare to me, but luckily, that one has also already been debunked.

And just imagine Nintendo having to have connections with or being reliant upon Google, either for OS support or licensing if they would make a custom version of Android. Nàh... that would be a VERY bad decision altogether...

And Android certainly isn't something that can be categorized as being new and never seen before, even if it would be a custom version...

Nintendo needs there home console and portable to be one system. It will be the only way they can guarantee support and a constant supply of new games. Imagine the Wii U was a hybrid, and had all of the DS and 3DS games available in its library. It would have definitely been a much bigger success. I personally don't like handhelds because of their small screens but they have dozens upon dozens of games I want to play but never have because of that limitation. Put pokemon on the big screen and systems will sell PERIOD!

@Robotron2084

And then Alex makes a video that basically says the exact same thing that all of the prior articles have already said but includes a nonsensical skit or two.

For everyone asking why there are articles on this: what else are they going to write about? Nintendo's silence means one of the other options is for the whole staff here to go on vacation.

@Vineleaf

Sometimes if you don't have anything of substance to say, it's better to say nothing at all. Or give us a talking point that isn't just about fabricated rumors.

Monster Hunter

Mainly due to the major lack of quality third party AAA support on Nintendo consoles for the last few generations (and Nintendo struggling to produce enough first party titles quick enough to counter this), as well as Nintendo's general inability to do stuff like the VC and sharing digital copies of games across systems right (so you don't have to buy the same digital games over and over and over), I think at this point I'd rather just have a single combined Nintendo console; it would partly solve many of the current issues with Nintendo's system in one go.

You'd think that with all the criticism towards Miyamoto that so many people are flinging onto the internet, that 'Miyamoto Hotness' would be in last place. People are weird...

@ThanosReXXX I think it's that he's a likable guy but the perception of his involvement in some games is viewed negatively.

@Vineleaf Some years ago he was the legend that nobody could touch and that everyone should worship, and nowadays he's the silly old master that is stuck in the past and is ruining games with his archaic thinking.
Like I said: people are weird, they really are..

The 3DS is in dire need of a hardware upgrade, and honestly, the 3DS had dated hardware for the time even when the 3DS launched.

How could a unified platform ever be pro consumer unless Nintendo is willing to take a massive loss on each console sale?

The platforms being unified basically means you don't have a choice in buying one or the other, and are being forced to buy both even if you only want one of them.

MH looks like Monster Hunter to me.

Right now though, I'm not all that trusting of Nintendo in general, they seem to be pushing harder than ever before in their attempts are appealing to casuals even if it's at the expense of core gamers, either way I will wait a while after Nintendo releases a console to see what direction they are going with their company before I invest in more Nintendo hardware.

Definitely #TeamHybrid. Nintendo would benefit from their utter handheld market dominance while also technically releasing a home console thanks to an optional HDTV video output (much in the vein of ROB managing to sell NESes, with the "excuse" of a "toy", back in the day), and it would be a total win-win scenario. Going back to separate systems would be great for the next-next generation, but as of now Nintendo desperately needs third-party support and when it comes to how to win them back a hybrid system is the only possible way to go.

@Project_Dolphin

Sad, but true.

You'd think people would be more annoyed at the developers for flat-out refusing to even try and develop on the Wii U rather than Nintendo for trying to be innovative. But apparently having the exact same hardware as the competition is "innovation" these days. It seems to work for Sony and Microsoft. People don't want different consoles from different companies. They just want every company to offer the same console, but painted a brand-exclusive colour.

Unfortunately, Nintendo should assume they'll be the only ones supporting their system. A hybrid system makes the most sense, that way they won't have to split their resources.

@Wouwter have to sell add space some how. No new articles= no new views and click thru

@ThanosReXXX Sounds like you are describing George Lucas, American Graffiti is a classic. I think everybody respects Miyamoto for what he's done in the past. We all appreciate the Wright Brothers too, but not too many people today would want to fly in their plane. I haven't really liked a Stones album since 1972, yet they keep making them, and they are the greatest rock n roll band of all time, but I'm still not listening to or buying anything they've made the past 44 years.

This was debunked hours ago, so there's no point to keep going with this...

@Vineleaf Sad but true, you're right...

NintendoLife are reporting om rumors because that's all we have ATM, it's not like there are many game releases to talk about, the whole secrecy-thing isn't helping Nintendo at all TBH, the hype won't last forever with this silence...

Mother 3 HYPE! Also, I just did "No, I'm not sure" for all the options because we know too little at this point.

Ah good ol' RumourLife, if have nothing much else to talk about they just blow out of proportion a debunked rumour... :x If Nintendo are to inevitably replace the 3DS, we likely won't hear anything until the NX has been firmly established and they can put their focus on to it separately.

Yes I want a dedicated handheld and separate systems but I want a unified platform as well.
As in, different systems with different specs and form factors but with one OS and one store and an unified development API that allows for easy porting between 2 or more 9th gen and beyond Nintendo systems, similar to Android where there hundreds and hundreds of device configurations yet games can at least work on many of them.

I kind of want the NX to just be a pure home console, not yet sold on the hybrid idea.

So far, according to NintendoLife's perpetuation of unfounded rumors (where do they even come from most of the time?) Nintendo's next big invention will be a wacky hybrid console called the NXMH where you take the handheld controller (also an independent handheld gaming system called MH) and plug it into your home-based console called NX (MH is the controller, without it, the NX is useless!) and then you may or may not have to download games because it is both digital-only as well as disc-based but also cartridge-based and will be simultaneously more powerful as well as less powerful than the Xbox One at the same time.

How did anyone read this and not immediately think 'Monster Hunter?'

As a matter of fact having two, separate consoles, would be a great thing. I wonder if it makes any sense to get a game running on both a stationary console and a handheld. There is always compromises to be made. I kinda like my wii U AND my 3ds for the experiences they provide.

No no no. No unification. I don't want a home console; I prefer handhelds, and so do a lot of people. Don't force people to spend $700-$800 on both consoles (AUD that is).

Mobile Hybrid?

So from what I've seen this is already proven false which keeps the NX is a handheld theory open!

NL's articles have been getting worse nowadays shame

@rjejr Ah, so you're one of them purists then?
"When rock bands get too commercial, crucify them."
"Only the early years are good, because back then it was all about the fans, and they haven't sold their souls yet."
"Oh, and don't get me started on that one song that KISS dared to release... "
For me, if music is good or nice to my ears, then it's good. I couldn't give a rat's @ss who is making it or if they aren't "as good or pure as they used to be" anymore...

So, it appears that going by that rule, there are a lot of silly old masters in the entertainment business then. But what is it then? Their age? Their ego? Or something else?
I do agree on mr. Lucas, but not all older directors are crazy or have taken a turn for the worse, or maybe that's just my opinion, or maybe some of them aren't deemed old and crazy enough yet.

Personally, I'd like to think that James Cameron and Steven Spielberg, and arguably Woody Allen are still some of the sane ones...

This has already been debunked. Why is NL still going on about it?

@ThanosReXXX I don't really care about anything other than what my ears like, and what my eyes see. I do think most artists lose it though. Mostly age I think.

What I don't want is a portable that plugs into the TV. That couldn't be powerful enough to compete with ps4 or xo which is what Nintendo need for third party support and a successful generation.
My main concern with a controller that acts as a handheld is the price they'd cost together, which I think is a reason the Wii u struggled. Still I'd be happy with that idea as a concept.

@rjejr Yep, I suppose staying popular or relevant is hard. And it's probably highly addictive too. What would you do if all of a sudden your star would seem to dim a few shades because some newer artists are stealing your thunder?

Ya know... I really, honestly can't decide.

Separate
Separate is good. It allows more power for the home console and dual screens for the handheld. On the other hand, it also probably means separate games and purchases.

Consolidated
Consolidated is good. It means buying a game once, and playing it on the go or on a TV (the pinnacle of what cross buy strives to achieve, as this would hold true for Every. Single. Game.) On the other hand, it likely means one screen on the unit since two would mean the TV needs a second screen to replicate, and how do you do that with a dual screen handheld? And it would be a beast of a handheld, but not so much through the lense of being a console.

In Summary
It's whatever. Each way forward has it's pros and cons. Ultimately I believe Nintendo needs to consolidate to compete, but, whatever. I'll be gaming regardless of what they do, or how much they succeed or fail.

Just as 'NX' speculation with zero official information became far beyond tiresome, here are another two letters.
I'll be looking back when Nintendo actually announce details of either of these devices / platforms.

@rjejr Come to think of it: older bands doing unlikely duets is probably one of the first symptoms of what I described in the previous comment...

But going too far off topic now again. How about that totally debunked MH handheld rumor, aye?

I'd rather they keep them separate, but if they are interconnected in some way I hope that Nintendo is able to release the console in three SKU's (hot pink, pale green, and electric blue) and that it's in the shape of a birthday sheet cake and that the handheld is in the shape of a cupcake (screen where the icing is, PLEASE! I am so sick of the disappointment that mobile phone companies do with this). It should be chocolate colored and have a pleated plastic back that shimmers slightly in the sun.

@JaxonH Some good thoughts and points. Now we only need to match them with what is supposedly totally new, never before seen and offers new ways to play. Provided all of that is actually true, of course.

As for the consolidated can't have a dual screen handheld problem: it actually can. Detection routines can be written into the software that will allow for menu/map/inventory screens and what not to be displayed on a secondary screen if the hardware that it is running on has such a capacity, so for example screens will be hidden under a start/pause button if there is only one screen, and they will be displayed on a bottom screen portion if that is present.

Seems perfectly feasible to me, same as one game running on both systems also having hardware detection routines in it to either display a game with all bells and whistles when it's on the home console, or dial the visuals down to medium when running on the handheld.

One game, on one (let's say 64GB) cart, and compatible with both systems...

I am not a fan of the downscaling of games (perhaps one of the reasons I am turned off by PC gaming, although I never really knew this phenomenon existed until very recently).. I find it rude, like going to the Met and having to look at all the artwork with shades on. It's obnoxious, and I weep a little seeing that this tomfoolery is coming soon to consoles and handhelds

@ThanosReXXX
I have no doubt there are ways to do it.

But, do you really think Nintendo would? Cause I don't. It would be cool and all but, realistically speaking it's hard to imagine them doing something like that.

@DarkKirby That's not true actually. Having a unified platform does not mean you're forced to buy both unless it was a one device hybrid, an idea that was already shot down by Nintendo themselves.

They can have NX be a unified platform that consists of a separate handheld and home console that share a library. Thus you can choose whichever form factor you want and have access to one software library.

With 3DS/Wii U, you're forced to buy both if you want all of Nintendo's 8th generation games, and it's become too taxing on Nintendo's internal resources. If NX is a unified platform with separate handheld and console SKUs, you only have to buy one of them.

This removes the need to develop two separate entries of the same franchise for two separate platforms, freeing Nintendo's development teams up while removing the redundancy. It allows them to be more efficient while eliminating software droughts as much as possible.

Another extra benefit is they don't have to report the handheld and console SKUs separately, so they hide how poorly the console ends up selling. It also softens the blow if they decide to eventually phase out the console SKU and therefore not release another home console.

@JaxonH Well, I suppose that in previous years it was also pretty hard to imagine them going mobile or making a deal with the likes of DeNA, and look at them now...
If they go with a more generally accepted piece of hardware, then these kind of things will almost naturally come along with it.

Case in point is the supposed demand coming from Sony that all games that will be released after the NEO is launched will need to have exactly such a detection routine in it (one of the reasons why I described that idea to you in the first place, but PC's also use them, and have done so for many years already) except that is supposedly called a NEO mode, which will automatically let a game take advantage of the more powerful hardware that the newer PS4 will offer, to display a better frame rate, higher resolution textures, added AI, visual effects and faster loading times to name but a few.

As said, if Nintendo also goes for a better OS/hardware architecture, then these things can come with the process of developing on said hardware.

It is anything but beyond the realm of possibilities.

@ThanosReXXX

Ya but there's a difference between a game just needing to run on slightly less/more powerful hardware, and actually selling the idea of "dual screen gaming but only if you have this one system otherwise is just single screen gaming".

People will be all confused. I thought this was a 2 screen game in the commercial? Wait how do I play the game with two screens on just one? To me that just sounds like the type of thing that they want to avoid right now.

I am tired of these rumors. We are a few months out from the system just wait for the official word. These stories don't do anything. No new games until next year and nothing new expect that crossover fire emblem game to play until Nintendos next thing is out and I maybe join in. I just don't know though.

After jumping in the first year for their past two systems this Wii u problem may just make wait a year or two until they have games. And seeing them struggle with hd games I don't want to be a first year adapter just playing a Zelda that should have came two years before NX.

@JaxonH Yeah, probably, but if they actually do their marketing job this time, truly EXPLAINING that only the NX handheld will have the added benefit of having the information divided over two screens whereas on TV you will need to press a menu button, then they could gently ease people into it.

Although honestly, if there are now still people not being able to fathom the two screen concept, then it's just them. I think it will be pretty self-explanatory if you have one cart for two systems, and one of the two systems has a clamshell design that will probably be all too familiar to the people that will be buying these systems...

@ThanosReXXX They should have closed the comments after the first one. Well actually TW should have read that tweet discrediting this and then hit the delete button. Or at least acknowledged MH was a "what if" financial situation and then gone on a "what if"of his own. I don't think the 4DS/NXDS gets enough coverage. Shouldn't you be sleeping?

@rjejr Keeping track of GMT, huh?
Yeah, I'm doing some last chores on the PC, going to watch a last half hour of recorded TV accompanied by a mug of tea, and then I'll turn in. I can more or less make my own schedule now, within reasonable boundaries of course, but that is one of the benefits of being your own boss, and in the business I'm in, a workday of 10am to 5pm will more than suffice to get things done.

But agreed on the on topic part...

And watch it be a "New Nintendo 2DS" for those who wanna play Xenoblade Chronicles 3D.....in glorious 2D only-ness.

Has anyone in the comments mentioned that this has been debunked yet?

To be honest, I'm past the point of caring about what Nintendo release or intend to do.

All we can confirm for sure is to expect much weaker hardware than the competition. I imagine an improved and rebranded Wii U with a controller that you can take and play games anywhere as long as you have WiFi. The funny thing is the current Gamepad is capable of this, but Nintendo decided not to build the infrastructure on Wii U to allow it.

I'd imagine the new portable will be able to dock and beam to the NX to play portable titles on the big screen as well.

I know Nintendo is the queen of surprises, but I really believe they should keep their consoles apart from each other.

The main attraction of Nintendo's portables isn't portability (as weird as that sounds), but the experience that comes bundled with the console. I haven't met a single Gameboy/DS/3DS owner who got it for portability; most people play it at home actually. These systems were born to make greater usage of "old" technology, horizontal thinking as Nintendo called, instead of building a high tech piece.

I never owned a Gameboy as a kid, but I played it using emulators and borrowed it from friends; and I owned a DS and a 3DS. The lack of power made developers get creative with their games, building experiences that couldn't be made for home consoles. Actually, 3DS was my least favorite portable from Nintendo, 'cause although it has awesome games, they aren't really unique. They feel more like a portable copy of a home console title.

Anyway, I hope they have a better link between the portable and the home console, but Nintendo should keep two different consoles.

@Project_Dolphin Knowing about Nintendo's previous "Supplemental Computing Device" patent, it is possible that Nintendo could theoretically provide technical benefits, such as increased frame rates and better graphical fidelity, for those who decide to purchase both the NX handheld and NX home console and use both units in conjunction with one another, since the NX handheld could act as a "supplemental computing device" for the NX home console unit (or the other way around, I don't know). It's just a theory, but then again, any NX related rumor so far consists of nothing but theories.

Why are "united platform" and "separate devices" two different options? iPhone, iPad and Apple TV are a "united platform" but they're physically different products.

I have thought for a long while that they will still have separate home console and portable products. With different specs and all of that. But that they will build development tools such that they can more easily develop for both in parallel. And from our end it'll look exactly like what they did with Smash Bros

Via Twitter:

Dr. Serkan Toto - serkantoto

1) Final tweet(s) about that Morgan Stanley Japan note on Nintendo: I just received and read it. As I said, they were picturing a scenario.

2) Financial institutions do this kind of future-oriented analysis all the time. The note is much longer than what was released online.

3) The analyst clearly says they are just projecting. They use "MH" as a codename to make the report more readable. It's arbitrary.

4) In the note, they compare future/theoretical sales of the "MH" with that of the 3DS, so I guess the short name makes sense . /end

@Vandy Welcome to the 21st century... In a world where people replace their electronics not every decade, not every 5 years, not even every few years... But once every year and sell or even trash the old device.

@RobNYC1977 Uh... Games are downscaled on consoles, not PC's. PC has a wide range of specifications, but that is where the greatest upscaling happens, of course, since it can handle that. Which is also why terms like "consolitis" exist.

The handheld will be just a different kind of controller. They NX will launch with a regular controller. There will be an option to buy the tablet controller that will allow you to play on the go. $249.99 for the NX. $399.99 bundle to include the tablet controller. The NX will be able to run anything the PS4K or Xbox 1.5 can. It will launch with 3D Mario, Pikmin 4, and Zelda. There is more 3rd party support than you'd believe. NDA prevent them from revealing they have dev kits since end of 2015. Have source. You heard it here first

@PlywoodStick hopefully there will be plenty of beans for everyone . I will rule as King of the Beans and all of the land will know beans in moderation is key, and the land shall have peace.

@theberrage You're the king!? Well, I didn't vote for you!

I hypothesise that the NX and MH will be unified in a sense that the NX will have full compatibility with MH games as well, while the MH can only play MH games (due to its limited power as a handheld console). Playing MH games on the NX should also yield higher resolution or additional features.

So, those buying an NX will have the best of both worlds (it will be like having a Super Game Boy built into the system, where players can seamlessly play their handheld games on the big screen, or enjoy Nintendo's handheld offerings at home without needing to buy a new console), and the MH will allow you to take these games on the go.

@Lizuka
If it was to happen in any of the ways people are suggesting I don't think it'd be doom for either tier. Especially if it's more a case of significant overlap with content rather than identical libraries.

Just stand back for a second and look at what has already happened. The Wii U and 3DS both have Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, New SMB, Hyrule Warriors. The DS and Wii both had Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and New SMB. Even the ones that are different didn't really have to be. Nintendo is effectively wasting development time by having to develop these games twice.

LOLOLOL RUMORLIFE STRIKES AGAIN

@PlywoodStick

Ain't that the truth! I have a friend who buys the new iPhone every time it's released and sells his old one at a significant loss.

I can't imagine what it looks like a handheld game that even better than N3DS. Dual Screen is a mind-blowing idea and what is next mind-blowing feature possibly happen ? Holographic display ? Virtual Button ? Can operate like Handphone ?
Sometimes, the mind-blowing ideas came from simple thing.
My thought about DS concept was came from Laptop design. The keyboard is for lower screen while Monitor is for upper screen.
And, oh yes. If Wii U paired with 3DS, NX paired with this MH ? Hm...Can you imagine if someday we can play next Animal Crossing games by using either NX or MH devices, so i can use MH for portable version and i can use NX for console version with better graphic display ?
Once again, this is just my thought. Well, rumor still rumor. Better wait for further information from Nintendo.

Being in Japan for several years now and with the market the way it is portable consoles will and should always be a priority.

Calling NX as Nintendo Cross Platform. A controller with a usb dongle that pops pops out, and connects to other systems allowing you to play Nintendo games on them.

MH is Mobile Handheld. It's a smartphone handheld game hybrid. Uses cartridges that also work in the NX dongle.

I don't know. My purse says: Do one system for both. But Nintendo's purse says: Do 2 systems so we can earn money two times!

People forget one thing: If a homeconsole gets 10 games and a handheld gets 10 games, that doesn't automatically mean one system gets 20 games. Would be cool, but it probably won't happen!

Ideally the handheld and the home console should be separate but have identical power and games library. So you purchase a game on the home console online store and can download it to the handheld too with gorgeous Vita style HD dual analog gameplay, and even share saves. This would essentially double Nintendo's output as they wouldn't have to focus on making games for two systems. Same with Virtual Console releases.

It would also be a huge attraction for third parties as anything they would develop would sell on two fronts. Since the handheld would be the only dedicated games handheld at the time and have full console games it would do pretty well I think. Which would mean it wouldn't matter if their home console didn't do great at the start. But with third party developers happy to release games to it due to the handhelds success, it probably would eventually do pretty well.

They could still connect to each other for second screen gameplay and even Wii U back compatibility. This idea would be both, two separate systems but still a "unified platform" in the sense of the development environment and eShop being one and the same.

Dang, people are being super harsh to Nintendo Life for posting this article. You don't HAVE to read every article here, you know. You also don't HAVE to post a comment letting Nintendo Life know that you're way more knowledgeable about Nintendo news than they are. Ugh. You internet people.

Having said that, I would like to lodge a formal complain to Nintendo Life for not including the most obvious meaning for "MH" in the poll: "Murderous Hamster". Nintendo's QoL initiative turned out to be genetic engineering that went horribly wrong, but that won't stop them from marketing it.

Looking forward to the Miyamoto Hotness, Nintendo...

@kurtasbestos I know, it's so annoying. Even if this is a meaningless rumour it's still fun to discuss and brings up possible ideas. This is a Nintendo news site and there isn't any other Nintendo news today, what do people want them to do?

Right now im against the hybrid system. The WiiU proved that a more compelx controller overpriced the machine, now imagine a portable console attached to a home console. So no I favour 2 different plataforms! Altough i would like to be able to play NX games on my MH. Therefore people can choose whatever fits best. Another thing I favour is modular consoles.

@kurtasbestos Wouldn't that make it a Monstrous Hampster?

I not sure that Nintendo know what they are doing. Let along me.

Slow news day.

@kurtasbestos Except they could have easily had this discussion without acting like MH is an actual thing. NintendoLife is supposed to be the one informing its readers, not the other way around. Let's turn it around from me not having to read every article here to them not having to post every rumour (especially already debunked ones).

@DarthNocturnal Yeah, I really think that pricing is a huge point when it comes to the NX. It will make or break it.

To be honest, I just really want SOME clarification from Nintendo. Like, anything. I'm so sick of these rumours!

C'mon Thomas you're better than this.

i think they should be like the PS4 and Vita, independent systems that can interact with each other

@Wouwter This site seems to like clickbaiting, especially as of late due to the lack of news.

Miyamoto Hotness...

Unfortunately, Shiggy still does not approve.

@Wouwter I had never heard about MH until I read this article. I also didn't know that it had been debunked until I made the mistake of reading some comments (really, I have myself to blame because I hate reading comments but I'm still drawn to them like a driver trying to pretend they're not looking at a car wreck). The whole "that news is old" thing is incredibly irritating because not all of us have the time and/or ability and/or patience to constantly read everything on the internet so that we know things before other people do, but when I see people being just plain rude and insulting to Nintendolife for posting "old" news, it makes them look like especially big jerks.

@kurtasbestos But that's just the thing, it simply wasn't news. It shouldn't have even been a rumour. And isn't it dumb that you had to read the comments to find out MH wasn't real? That's something the article should have told you up front.