An intriguing early announcement in this E3, from a Nintendo perspective, was confirmation of Just Dance 2017 for the Nintendo NX. It's the only major third-party game announced for the mysterious next-gen console during the show so far, and unlike a handful of past announcements that were largely retracted or backtracked upon, this one is more solid.
Whether Ubisoft had agreed the announcement with Nintendo is for the two companies to know, but the wording on the relevant press release stated that the game was coming to all "motion-control gaming platforms", hence the inclusion of NX. By extension this further established that the NX is a home console in some form, and that motion gaming - whether new or simply backwards compatible with Wii U / Wii controllers - is going to be supported.
MCV has been able to get a few words out of EMEA boss Alain Corre about this, and he expressed his confidence that the NX could win over 'lapsed Wii players', the majority that evidently didn't transition over to Wii U. Here's what he said:
We have always appreciated the relationship with Nintendo, the co-creation and the fact that they are really concentrating on quality - they have fantastic brands.
And they are addressing the family market in a very different way, their own way, which we appreciate. We have done a lot of products and successes with Nintendo in the past, and we believe that the NX will recapture a lot the lapsed Wii players. So we will see when they release it, but we are confident.
It's pleasing to see positivity from Ubisoft on the system, even if its reveals for the hardware are (so far) limited to Just Dance 2017. Corre's comments do suggest that, in some form, the NX will offer an experience that could be compelling to the Wii generation of gamers, perhaps targeting broad demographics - the 'blue ocean' or 'casual' market, whichever term you prefer.
What do you think of these comments around NX? Let us know.
Thanks to Benson for the heads up.
[source mcvuk.com]
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That sounds bad to me. It sounds like this developer thinks NX is going to try to appeal casual gamers with cheap games, which actually makes sense seeing Nintendo approaching the mobile market.
He doesn't really say anything to be honest. Nintendo has always been more about family entertainment then M rated games and as far as recapturing the Wii players.....they sold 100 million Wii's.....every company wants them players in their customer list. I think Nintendo would be happy with 40 to 60 mill for NX though
Well how about you announce more than Just Dance for the system then? Even if they end up supporting it only announcing the dance game early tells non Nintendo fans "welcome back to the wii era!" for good or for ill since the Wii had a very strong and unique library.
I've always said they will once again go after the casuals. Whatever that means in this day and age I just hope Nintendo doesn't have to dumb down their games again like on the Wii. Not every game needs motion control nor do we need 100 party games!
@Gerbwmu 40-60? Nintendo will be lucky to sell 20 million units.
yea that's not super reassuring for the same reasons that others have said.
I also would've liked to have seen them announce something other than Just Dance for the NX. Just doesn't seem to bode well.
Fairly vague, just a business partner speaking positively about another partner's project. Wouldn't read too much into it.
Given the announcements of Neo and Scorpio though, as I said in the 'Will NX compete with Scorpio' thread, I think a console targeting the consumer base that the Wii did, based on costs at least, is a sound move, at least in the short term.
In the longer term, I hope Nintendo wants to repeat the Wii's successes - broad appeal and large unit sales - but avoid the mistakes, principally glut of shovelware and waggle -for-waggle's-sake, which damaged the brand.
I think they're hoping that Wii players move onto NX so they don't have to support Wii anymore. My sister plays her Just Dance games on Wii since she doesn't really have a need for Wii U. It would be better for them to have one Nintendo console to develop for instead of releasing the game on older systems too. Saves some resources.
It sounds like nothing really. I've played plenty of Ubisoft games on my WiiU - Rayman Legends, Assassin's Creed IV and ZombiU - they are fantastic and I wish more of that could come, but when they show only open world games with that bla-bla-bla, drugs, etc, I just lose interest. Really don't care about the games they announced yesterday on a Nintendo platform.
More Rayman? Bring it on. please.
yea, only announcing Just Dance for the NX so far doesn't give me much hope for this console so far.
If Nintendo is going to try and appeal more to the casual gamers like they did with the Wii, and only get games like this, while less casual games are going to miss the system again, I definitely won't be supporting the NX and will be getting a Xbox One instead.
The Wii system was an ok system with lots of great experiences, but we definitely missed out on a lot of great games that where on the other systems, and I won't be doing that again.
I know Nintendo likes to keep things secret, but they really need to tell people about the NX already.
That's a death knell for gamers, and pretty much in line w/ what I've been thinking. Here's why Wii sold 100mil:
Wii $250 w/ Wii Sports
Xbox360 $400/$500
PS3 $500/$600
NX could be a 3DS type device - no disc drive or storage - w/o a screen that hooks up to the TV for $199. Thats the only way to get the casuals back, price and family games - Skylanders, Lego Dimensions, Just Dance. It might have X1 power at $199 w/o a HDD or disc drive.
Still might not sell, but I think that's more realistic than a $400 500GB HDD PS4 competitor. A 2DS for TV.
Maybe this slogan isn't all about 2DS, maybe it's their new NX marketing slogan as well? 2DS games on TV.
also considering the looming hostile takeover it may not matter since they may not be doing anything of note in the coming years
The NX would definitely go bust without such a quality game as Just Dance.
What is EMEA? Is it a part of Ubisoft?
I won't be getting the nx at launch. I'll wait until smash 5, splatoon 2, or a metroid game releases.
No, thanks. Just like i said before, I keep my hype on Dance Dance Revolution Ace that will be released this month by Konami.
Forget all Western licensed songs like that.
I will enjoy every seconds by stepping on the arrow with Konami Original songs rather than shaking my body corresponded character movement.
No Just Dance for me whatsoever. period.
@VanillaLake it doesn't mean anything. They said the exact same thing about the wiiu
@Dakt Wii U is generally disliked by "core" gamers, casual gamers tend not to know it exists. They probably don't know X1 or PS4 exist either, they are either playing Candy Crush on their phones on streaming Netflix on their smart tvs. No need for a console when you have a smart tv. Wii was all about Netflix.
https://www.destructoid.com/wii-is-the-most-popular-console-for-netflix-streaming-207510.phtml
@gcunit "Fairly vague, just a business partner speaking positively about another partner's project. Wouldn't read too much into it."
Only it isn't "fairly vague", its a fact. Ubi announced several games for X1 and PS4, and exactly 1 game for NX - Just Dance. There's nothing vague about that, they are making casual games for NX and not making "gamer games" for NX. Even if he didn't say anything at all, actions speak louder than words.
The only thing he could have said that might have made a difference was that they had no idea what NX was, they just assumed JD2017 would be on it. But he sounds like a man w/ a dev kit to me, and that dev kit is only getting his causal game, not the others. Nothing vague about that.
@joedick Europe Middle East and Africa
Is Ubisoft back in our good books now, after pulling Rayman's release date from the Wii U?
And if all they can offer is Just Dance that won't interest gamers or sell the NX.
"Nintendo will be lucky to sell 20 million units"
@LeRaposa Based on what information?
I hope it is as successful as the original Wii. As a Nintendo fan, how could I hope otherwise?
@Dakt The console market is shrinking, so if Nintendo is able to bring in more gamers with NX, it only benefits Ubisoft. Ubi would love for NX to be like the Wii, Just Dance sold very well on that system.
@AcridSkull Thanks!
What ever this 'NX' is, as soon as E3 finishes I want Nintendo to come out and announce a date that they reveal their next system. And I want that date to be sooner not later, because all the big gaming news will be out the way for Nintendo.
@rjejr My 'fairly vague' was referring to the comments quoted in this article.
The Just Dance situation is separate. And I reckon you're reading too much into it. The only conclusion we can draw from that is that NX will include motion controls, which is no surprise to anyone. But to conclude they're not making 'gamer's games' for NX because they haven't said they are is paranoia.
I'LL be the judge of that!
NX is obviously going to be aimed at the family/casual market. I'd say Nintendo will be going with a 1.4GHZ Quad Core and 3GB RAM combo max with another budget GPU - what Wii U should have been.
With PS Neo, the incredible next gen Xbox Scorpio, the ease of building a gaming PC no 'serious' gamer or developer is seriously going to choose a Nintendo console anymore. Those days have come and gone.
Nintendo are only for Nintendo and family games.
@LeRaposa - we dont even know what it is yet so I think it is a lot early to say anything about what they would be lucky to sell.
I said this on the Just Dance announcement article... but the fact that they only announced Just Dance implies to me that they're going to carry on giving the same lacklustre support that they showed the Wii U. Why didn't they announce any of their other games for the NX? ...
This statement about getting the casual Wii crowd back on board isn't good either, in my opinion. It's them saying that it's not a console for the hardcore... Brace yourselves guys. I don't think the NX is going to be what any of us had perhaps hoped.
Who knows though, thankfully we don't have to wait too long to find out now.
@Dakt PS4 and maybe Xbox One are doing well, sure. But, Wii+PS3+360 sold more to this point than WiiU+PS4+XONE. So therefore, the market has shrunk this gen.
If this means that Nintendo is aiming the NX at casuals again, then I'm definitely not buying at launch.
@gcunit "But to conclude they're not making 'gamer's games' for NX because they haven't said they are is paranoia."
Paranoia? Ubi told us they had a Wii U game they never released.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/11/8018585/ubisoft-wii-u-finished-unreleased-game-know-your-friends
W_D was late. In 2014 they made AC:Rogue for PS3/Xbox360 and AC:Unity for PS4/X1, neither on Wii U. Why on earth would you think they would start making NX games? If I'm paranoid to think they aren't making NX games b/c they have in fact stopped making games for Wii U, you must be delusional to think they will start to make NX games other than Just Dance.
"My 'fairly vague' was referring to the comments quoted in this article.
The Just Dance situation is separate."
And I think to separate out his comment about casual from his fact about Just Dance but no other game on NX is perhaps delusional as well. It's the same company, saying what they are doing, thats not separate, it's connected.
This is why many call people fanboys. Because we see/hear news like this and ignore the message and spin it to make it sound positive for Nintendo. Folks, this isn't good news for the NX. If any of Ubisoft's other games were coming to the NX they would have announced it like they did for Just Dance. So absolutely nothing has changed from the Wii U. Not that it matters to Nintendo. They are doing this intentionally. The difference being they can easily support the NX on their own so they don't need 3rd parties beyond indies. If they really aren't going to compete power wise so 3rd parties will want to make games on it, then they are going to try and compete in price. This is now what I expect:
$199 console with regular controller. It will use carts and can stream 4K but no 4K blu ray. It will get the most 1st party support a Nintendo console/handheld has ever seen. It might not get AAA 3rd party games but Nintendo will make sure to fund 2nd party and indies. Hopefully a few 3rd party devs will make exclusives for it once it sells well enough. You will have an option to buy a handheld tablet type controller bundle for $299. Its direct competitors will be Xbox One S and PS4K.
I don't see it selling well. Maybe 25 million total. Nintendo just doesn't "get it". This will get us fanboys to buy and due to low price eventually the others might get it as a 2nd console.
This very well could be the last console they make. Expect them to go 3rd party. That decision will be met with resistance by fanboys but I just don't understand why. Nintendo developers being able to make games using the latest and greatest tech means games are going to be even better. They'll be making bank and can focus on that instead of using so much manpower worried about hardware and developing around that limitation. With that free time and devotion to just games E3 for Nintendo could be like this year's Zelda U reveal but also stellar, comparable sized Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc.
Either way, us fanboys will be fine. We'll have to deal with trolls with the NX but once they go 3rd party we'll be the ones trolling because the games will be crushing the competition
@AcridSkull Based on common knowledge. Nintendo has little chance of succeeding with the NX. Sony has already sold over 40 million PS4's and Microsoft has sold somewhere around 20 million Xbox One's. Now with Project Scorpio announced for release next year, the NX has no chance at outselling the Xbox family.
No need to freak out. Its coming to PS4 and Xbox One too and they're doing fine. Until they say what the NX is no reason all this hysteria is needed
mmm
this doesnt feel me with confidence at all. whats more worrying is ubisoft announced one game for NX and it was just dance.
@rjejr I also thought Ubisoft was talking as they had the developer kit. It is not a sabotage like @Dakt said, Ubisoft has made fruitful business with Nintendo platforms. Remember guys, Ubisoft was the first one in the world to reveal Wii U name and logo, they are not specially careful. I think this means much more than what you want to believe.
Another NX game at the least.
@Yorumi PS4 has sold 40 million worldwide. You think it will sell another 120 million in its second half (when sales typically start to slow)? I am not that optimistic. Look, I get that PS4 is doing well, but why are people arguing that the console market is shrinking? It's a fact, there are numbers to back it up.
@jrob23 No. Nintendo going third-party would not be good for us. Just looked at Sega. They used to make numerous great games on regular basis, changing the industry with games like Sonic the Hedgehog and Virtua Fighter. Now all we get from Sega are Sonic, PC, and mobile games.
Nintendo going third-party would not allow them to focus entirely on bringing great games to the public. It would more likely have them put their entire (or at least most of their) attention on mobile games. The company will be a shadow of its former self.
I say this as someone who also thinks the NX will be its last and am not particularly concerned about the direction of the video game industry nowadays.
@Yorumi It's not Nintendo fans saying that, it's analysts, economists and so on. Seriously, there are numbers to back this up, just look them up. Why are people so hesitant to believe this? It doesn't mean there is a crisis or anything, it's just not as big as it was last gen.
Is Ubisoft saying this because they know exactly what the NX is, or are they saying this because they want to justify their Just Dance announcement for the NX??
Guess we'll wait and see.
My prediction is that the NX will indeed have a gimmick, but will feature more capable hardware in line with PS4 and Xbox One. Whether the NX is weaker than the Xbox One, better than the Xbox One but weaker than PS4, or stronger than both is anyone's guess at this point. Hoping for the latter...
@LeRaposa What you say sounds reasonable, but those are the same things people were saying before the Wii and DS came out. Let's wait and see what happens.
Also, too much emphasis is placed on a console outselling the others. It's not the only mark of success.
@jrob23 “Expect them to go 3rd party. That decision will be met with resistance by fanboys but I just don't understand why”
Correct. Why die-hard fans are fine with Nintendo developing for mobile phones but not for proper gaming platforms like Xbox and PlayStation? Since when mobile phones are better for gaming? Since when mobile phone gaming has been Nintendo's tradition?
By developing both hardware and software, Nintendo struggles to keep up the pace. The last years of Wii were a desert and not because Wii U launch lineup was going to be awesome. Wii U has only been supported with AAA games for 2-3 years. This is not good for Nintendo nor for gamers, and Nintendo's future would be brighter, more interesting and more appealing on Xbox/PlayStation than on mobile phone games and apps.
Kinda scary
Basically he says he thinks the NX will be a popular console, and saying so helps to build the confidence in others, including other devs and consumers.
@VanillaLake Mobile gaming is extra revenue and advertising for their consoles and IPs. Virtually everyone has a smartphone. Consoles are a very different thing. Only a small percentage of the world has one. Why grow MS or Sony when they can grow their own business? Do we really want Nintendo to become the next Sega?
We'll see. If it's another Wii U, then I simply won't support them.
@MadAdam81 which console business Nintendo is growing?
They are losing customers both handeld and home console side...
I would love a 3rd party Nintendo, with all its great franchises on console and pc, without the excessive entry price of a barely supported console....
It s a win win situation: Nintendo can sell to at least 100 millions users and we can save money...
@Yorumi The console market has shrunk since the PS2 days, and the PS4 has stronger competition, so I highly doubt that the PS4 will come remotely close to PS2 or even Wii sales. Smartphones and Facebook are the new main platforms for delivering games. Why spend $500 on a console when you don't have the time anymore and you have a phone that can play all the games you have the time for, and have it withere you 24/7?
I am worried about this article. While no other Ubi game has been amnounced for NX (together with other platform) this one has been.... I really fear Nintendo is catering again the casual gamers (mostly long gone) ...
@Yorumi Great, the PS4 is doing well! It can be the best selling console of all time and the console market can still shrink. You are looking at one console, I am talking about the entire industry.
You say it's because the 'casuals have moved on'. Yes! The casuals left and as result the industry is smaller than it was. Just because you don't like that grannies played games or whatever doesn't change the fact that there are less people buying systems than there were before.
@arnoldlayne83 I don't think it'd be a clear win for Nintendo if they went Third Party, but it would definitely be a win for the fans. Imagine Zelda BotW on the PS4. That would be amazing.
@-Red- oh yeah.... I can see how an engine like the one of Horizon can be very beneficial for a game like Zelda
@arnoldlayne83 It's cheaper to have a PC and a Wii U than a PC and Xbox One or PS4. If you have a PC, the Wii U has the greater amount of different games.
But while Wii U and 3DS haven't sold as much as they want, Nintendo would rather sell their own consoles than sell someone else's. Nintendo have sold 80 million 3DSs IIRC. I'm not one who would have wanted them to help Sony sell 80 million more PSP/Vitas. Without 3DS and Wii U, no home console or handheld device would have second screen or touchscreen. Without Wii, no motion control (although no big loss). Without NES and SNES and 64, what would gaming be like today?
Without Nintendo driving innovation in consoles and games, how much worse would the sector be in the future? It would result in another gaming glut and market crash. Smartphone gaming may also suffer the same fate. With Nintendo joining smartphone gaming devs like Kairosoft and Half brick, there is more pressure on other developers to up the quality of game play and have fairer pricing.
@rjejr By all means keep beating your doom drum, but I shan't be pitching in with my gloom guitar just yet, I have an optimistic oboe that's doing me just fine for the time being.
@-Red- Except for the annoying triggers on the PS4 controller. Imagine it on the Xbox One's horrible OS and GUI. Urgh.
@MadAdam81 Why some people insist on comparing Nintendo to Sega? Sega released a lot of hardware add-ons (32X, Mega CD), revised consoles (Neptune) and new consoles at the same time (Saturn). How in Earth could that go well? People got sick of it and did not support them any more. Then they started making bad Sonic games (that did not sell too bad anyway) because Sonic original developers left the company. Nintendo is not Sega.
I don't trust Ubisoft. They said the same thing about the Wii U. Look how it turned out. Lol
@MadAdam81 I prefer the PS4 controller over the Wii U gamepad tbh.
@arnoldlayne83 "I would love a 3rd party Nintendo, with all its great franchises on console and pc, without the excessive entry price of a barely supported console....
It s a win win situation: Nintendo can sell to at least 100 millions users and we can save money..."
Exactly. And Nintendo would have more time for developing AAA games. How many Nintendo franchises skipped this generation or were served as mediocre games or spin-offs that met mixed reception?
@MadAdam81
The current Xbox One UI is awesome, I think you mean the old one. Both PS4 and Xbox One controllers are far better than Wii U pro controller (I have the three consoles). About the GamePad, I'm not a fan except for games like Super Mario Maker and Maiden of Black Water, the rest of the time is put aside as it is clunky and not comfortable, and I don't really need the off-TV function (and games look better on TV anyway).
Everybody agrees about Nintendo's hardware innovations , but that belongs to the past now. What "innovations" can NX offer at this point? Touchscreen? VR? Motion controls? You could get that on any other platform and possibly better.
@VanillaLake Innovation doesn't have to include things that already exist, you know, in fact, the best innovation is often when new things are brought to market. Why limit the options to things already on offer? Cos that's not really innovation.
@gcunit The innovation term was used ironically in the question, that's why I mentioned things that already exist or can be found elsewhere.
EDIT: I added "" to clear it up.
I'd be excited if they can recapture lost gamecube players let alone lost wii ones.
@gcunit Obviously, it would be great if NX offered a new and positive innovation.
But we don't WANT those Wii gamers back. They are a fickle crowd that will go with the latest trend and leave Nintendo high and dry at the drop of a hat.
@jimi AAHHH, don't say mobile, this thread is killing me as it is.
@VanillaLake I remember when I used to think the U in Wii U was meant to represent Ubi and we'd get a lot of Ubi games. Then Rayman got delayed for MS and that was that.
That's the worst news I've heard!
I will NOT buy a Nintendo NX if it is anything like Wii or Wii U. Oh my goodness! This is making me very worried.
@Kicked2TheKirb OMG. You're avatar is terrifying dude lol. XD
I'm going to take this as a positive sign that the NX is likely to reemploy a lot of the features that made the original Wii great for gamers young and old alike. Innovative, simple, elegant, and approachable controls, low price point compared to the competition, and some kind of fresh new take on how to play games that will capture the imagination (and wallets) of the general public. All that adds up to big sales numbers, and big sales numbers mean big third party support; which I think is what Nintendo needs more than anything right now.
Ultimately making video games is a business that companies are in to make money, so Nintendo really needs the NX to be a massive success that can guarantee third party developers a solid profit if they want to regain their support. Getting that kind of success again will likely mean appealing to the casual gaming masses as well as Nintendo's core fan base, so I'm all for Nintendo revisiting what really made the Wii a success with the NX. Every copy of Just Dance 2017 that sells on the NX increases the likelihood of other third parties seeing the system as profitable, which leads to the core gamers getting more titles like Ōkami, Dead Space: Extraction, and any number of other outstanding third party titles on the new NX.
In short, the NX needs to appeal to casual gamers like the Wii did to sell enough units that the major third party developers will want to develop for Nintendo again and bring the core gamers quality titles to enjoy.
@gcunit Less of a "Doom drum", more like a "heartbroken harmonica".
I want more 1st person Metroid using motion control. Sorry, I can't go back to a controller no matter how 'pro' you think it is.
@LeRaposa You are freakin' hilarious. You ARE kidding right?
Oh wait...I forgot. You know all, have cameras in all of the major gaming companies offices, have insider information, float on air, have engineered your own successful gaming platform & authored many best-selling games (making you an expert and authority on gaming) and see the future.
My bad.
@rjejr I'm going to give you a little ting-ting on my touché triangle for that one 😂
@Detective_TeeJay It's Nintendo's fault they didn't come to the Wii U. The Wii U was an overly complicated mess that was rushed, backwards, expensive, and Gamepad aside, did little to seperate itself from it's predecessor. In addition, Nintendo foolishly expected casual gamers to buy overpriced rehashes of games they already played, instead of fresh experiences. The Wii U was just a giant slap in the face to fans of the OG Wii, and it only drove them even further into mobile territory.
@LeRaposa what common knowledge?
@gcunit I'm pretty sure your avatar IS a ting-ting on a touche triangle. Been fun.
@MadAdam81
Some people like simple things but the other people like something complicated. Some people like to save their money, the other like to spent a lot of money.
@-Red-
Really ? But i really like to use my Wii U pad for browsing internet, play Wii game as second TV, listening music from Youtube while browsing. A lot of things to do by gamepad, i feel relieved can owning Wii U and I play both Wii and Wii U games. Very useful for me and I still have an old White Wii that later i'll consider to use that for playing Gamecube. Well, it look so bulky and big but very comfortable for me. Recently, i spent my time with my Gamepad to browse Youtube, looking for information from Internet if I felt bored to play a games.
I don't know why anyone would ever think Nintendo is going to make a machine to try to woo the publishers of the big games on the PC console twins. People who want to play those games have those machines already, the titles that sell there are not an asset for Nintendo. The idea of the NX being more focused on Nintendo/indie devs sounds great; if it's a nice backwards-compatible replacement for Wii U or offers some kind of trade-in aspect for Wii U owners that would be awesome.
@VanillaLake There is not an option in the current UI to select the disc drive. Many things are still hidden away. Yes its better than before, but it's harder to find things than any version of Windows.
As for further innovations, we will have to wait and see. If we can guess any now, it wouldn't be very innovative.
Personally, I also think Nintendo OS is the simplest and most stable. PS4 is probably the best for a non-Nintendo OS, and Xbox One is probably the worst, with so many crashes and forced closing of apps and games.
@Project_Dolphin Nintendo is changing already.
@MadAdam81 There aren't any crushes on Xbox One and I play almost everyday.
A lot of truly tiresome and disheartening comments across the various E3 related articles. And in this article as well: a lot of assumptions grabbed out of thin air, reaching way too far based upon a single statement from a big company and taking it out of context.
Instead of once again plastering a wall of text here, I'll just let PlayerEssence do the talking this time. Grab a bag of popcorn and try and truly digest and let it sink in what this man is trying to tell you instead of jumping to insane conclusions:
@VanillaLake It's not as bad as it used to be (I bought mine in 2014 post Xmas sales and it crashed 10 times on the first day, more than my launch Wii U has had), most of the problems I still have are games and apps that just suddenly force close on me.
@MadAdam81 Honestly, I think the Xbox One experience has been improved much since launch. Don Mattrick was bad but Phil Spencer is good. Also, my favourite controller is Xbox One Elite. I only use the GamePad for games that are cleverly designed for it but there are only a few (e.g., Maiden of Black Water) but the Wii U pro controller's buttons feel cheap and the sticks are unsteady. I hope that next Nintendo controller is better.
@gcunit even the motion control aspect is not for sure. You can play just dance 2016 with a smartphone that has a gyro in it. no wiimotes needed
@Gregory123 Good point. Thanks for correcting me
@Project_Dolphin I did not say that (and I don't want that).
Really hoping that's true. It was unfortunate that the fantastic second screen GamePad didn't become popular but hopefully they'll strike gold here again.
@gcunit actually I agree that NX won't have "core" Ubisoft games. Even if NX is more powerful than a PS6, even if it sells 200 million units... Ubisoft like EA and most of these stupid buttholes are convinced that the market for the Nintendo consoles don't want these games. 100,000 to 1,000,000 is the maximum number of copies that will be sold on a Nintendo console for these third party games. For some reason it was enough for many Gamecube games but somewhere both in the GC era and in the Wii era that was no longer true.
These games are not coming back. I don't care. I can actually play them on my laptop or other PCs etc. They mean nothing to me console wise. But thats it. Ubi, EA even Konami or Capcom etc can shove it, but that's it.
@dumedum If it costs them N to port the game to NX, and they can make, say, 5N from selling 500k-1Mill. units, what business would ignore that opportunity? So if porting PC/PS4 games to NX is cheap enough, and there aren't exclusivity issues, there's no good reason not to port them.
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