As a few others have pointed out a lot of it may have had to do with what happened with PewDiePie recently. Lets not forget Nintendo is a company that is highly protective of its brands as well as dedicated to controlling its message. From a company like Nintendo's standpoint a livestream filled with swearing and profanity can be become an easy PR liability. From what I hear Youtube is kinda dying and many are actually migrating over to Twitch
As several have pointed out its too early to call doom and gloom on EA support yet considering Switches relatively small user base right now coupled with the fact the UK is basically Sony land. Not to mention we don't know how many switch copies were produced and alotted for launch
@Nintendoforlife That can be expected considering how the majority of Switches online infrastructure doesn't really exist yet and is probably still in development. I wouldn't let EA off entirely either in this case since you would think they would have the capability to host it themselves with how you have to link your Xbox account to your Origin account. I think Nintendo is listening really considering how they puished back the launch to next year likely for more refinement and they updated their app recently with some much needed fixes. Friends aside I find much of Switches online is pretty good performance wise.
I mean seriously who didn't see this coming. Nintendo is a business they aren't your best friend. If he was funding this project via partreon then yeah he technically was profiting off Nintendo's IP
He does make a good point though that the best way to combat scalpers is to not give them your money in the first place. Also I don't think the supply issues are really that bad considering how I have heard stories of literally crates full of NES Minis being sold on Ebay. It just seems like that because the scalpers are buying up everything for themselves leaving the rest of us folks with the scraps
I feel this is just another case where people are making mountains out of molehills over nothing. A good sized Micro SD card can be had for relatively cheap these days. Really though flash memory is the only good option for a system like switch. I shoudn't have to remind people of what happened when Sony thought sticking an actual disc drive in the PSP was a good idea.
Lets not act like Nintendo isn't aware of the issue either. They do plan on adding support for external drives in the future and switch actually supports mirco SD cards up to 2TB which don't really exist yet.
I will not be surprised if eventually we reach an all digital future. I mean we have already seen this PC games where even with boxed copies the disc usually contains little more than the basic installation files after which its pretty much tied to your Steam/EA/Blizzard account
@Kalmaro I think people are overreacting here. Really this is hardly surprising considering the update heavy nature of games in this day and age plus as you and a few others said a good sized memory card can be had for pretty cheap these days. Right now I have a 64 GB SD card in my switch which should set me well for a while.
Adding a hard drive into a switch just wouldn't be practical for various reasons. Case in point PSP where Sony thought sticking an actual disc drive into a portable was a good idea. Flash memory is ideal for a portable but it tends to be more expensive in larger amounts.
Its nice that they actually put a clear warning on the box
@Asaki Thats pretty much the problem right there then there really are plenty of systems to go round. The problem is greedy ass people buy them all up for themselves just so they can ransom them off for an inflated price
@Yorumi I say I am not upset since you seem to create this idea that I am when really I am not. Its funny really how you seem to get upset when I call people out for being overly self entitled which isn't so much an insult as it is telling people to grow up and stop obsessing over something you can't get. I am trying to be helpful here by explaining why its better to just move on here
@Yorumi Again my point sails completely over your head. I don't take cheap shots at people and no I am not upset I am just trying to be reasonable here and trying to explain to people why getting worked up over a piece of plastic is just stupid. You and Cronos actions speak of your own nature as well. When people like me just try to show a little common sense you feel the need to take pot shots at us and call us blind apologists simply cause we don't conform to your own idea of how Nintendo operates
@Crono1973 You are only half right. The way it works is that Nintendo approaches a manufacturer and they are contracted to produce a set quantity of units. If Nintendo wants to make more they need to negotiate in addition to the manufacturer themselves needing to have the resources necessary
@Yorumi There you go twisting my words to fit your views. I am not upset over what people post but I like Syrek can't help but be disgusted by the sheer sense of self entitlement over something that people don't really need. Like he said its about the perspective and how you look at the problems you face rather than just lashing out in anger and entitlement
@Crono1973 No I have not admitted defeat I don't get upset over it because I know there are more important things in life to worry about then a glorified lump of plastic. I think you are the one who lost cause when I am simply trying to be rational and show some common sense yet you simply continue to lash out and spout the same broken record nonsense about it all being 100% Nintendo's fault even when I calmly explained why thats an extremely pre mature assumption
@Crono1973 There are number of reasons for it but to understand them you need to consider things from a business perspective. If the rumors are true and they are coming out with an N64 classic in the coming year continuing to make more Mini SNESs would just cut into resources for the N64 Mini and it would likely just end up clogging up shelf space that could be going to the N64 MIni as well.
Also it was likely decided from the start that they would produce only a certain amount of SNES minis
@Yorumi I think you and others are missing his point. There are plenty of other things in the world that are worth getting upset over more than a mini SNES. Also I doubt all the screaming crying and whining on this site will change anything since its mostly just an extremely vocal minority. Why do you people feel the need to own every single thing Nintendo puts out even if you don't really need it
seriously the salt here is bloody ridiculous. If you seriously are gonna cry scream and whine like an 8 year old and shout insults at Nintendo simply cause you can't get ahold of a freaking lump of circuits and plastic then you might need to get your life straight
@Crono1973 some things are easier to predict or anticipate than others.. Perhaps the parts shortages didn't really come up until after switch had entered production. Also do you ever think maybe its the pre order culture that is to blame here since it creates an ideal environment for scalping.
@Deadstanley The thing is though there are so many factors to consider with the supply chain its just unrealistic to blame everything solely on Nintendo. Nintendo simply doesn't have the sort of infrastructure and resources enjoyed by the other tech giants not to mention shelf space is much more precious in this day and age. You can't just churn out more units at the snap of a finger either. With stuff like the NES and SNES mini manufacturers are contracted to produce a set number of units if you want more you need to negotiate which takes time.
Its not like Nintendo is unaware of demand either. at one point they actually had to send in Switches by air just to keep up but keep in mind air freight gets expensive real fast
@Crono1973 I know with Switch and NES Mini it can't be due to incompetence since its been stated there have been issues with parts shortages which are pretty much beyond Nintendo's control.
Another example is with the Wii. That was pretty much Nintendo being caught off guard by the demand. Remember back before Wii launched everyone was dismissing it and saying it would never catch on. Nobody expected it to sell as well as it did.
You have to consider retailers are also at fault here for not taking better measures to discourage or stop scalping
@SmaMan Thank you its nice to see someone with some semblence of common sense here. I work at Wal Mart now and from what I understand products are not sent directly to the store they end up at a regional distribution center first where they are then shipped out to various stores. I was told by one of my co workers the reason it took so long to get more Switches in was because apparently the system never bothered to renew the order once the initial allotment was sold out. I since I work on unloading Trucks I have seen Switches come in although we don't get many at a time. What likely happens is that the allotment for each store is decided at the distribution warehouse.
@Crono1973 I can put the blame partly on apple here since its been stated Nintendo has had to compete with them for parts and they often get the lions share
@Crono1973 I never said its the customers fault. I know its not entirely Nintendo's fault either since in many cases its been due to factors that are beyond their control with switch being a good example of this
@The switch shortages have already been explained. Its a shortage of NAND memory and screens coupled with Apple getting the lions share of the parts. Its completely out of Nintendo's own control yet you people insist they are 100% responsible simply cause you cannot be bothered to understand how supply chain and manufacturing works
@XCWarrior Apple doesn't have supply issues because they probably get higher priority on the manufacturing pecking order. Nintendo isn't some mega tech conglomerate like Sony or MS who likely have far greater resource pools and financial backing
@Crono1973 The supply problems from what I have seen are not so much incompetence as they are due to factors that are beyond Nintendo's control. They mentioned with the NES Mini there were difficulties obtaining parts. With Switch its been well known there has been a parts shortage going around in the industry and Nintendo also has to compete with Apple who often gets the lions share of components
I think people are getting worked up way too much over this. They didn't even make that headset and they did mention it wouldn't be the only solution. I also recall them saying that the app and online service would be in a LIMITED form when it first launched with Splatoon 2. Also simply downloading the app just to give it a 1 star rating is about as effective as storming onto a trailers youtube page just to mash the dislike button. The app has a feedback button why don't people just use that instead rather than raging online about how much they think the app sucks. Also it helps to be civil when voicing your complaints.
The author of this article makes a good point that its not really fair to judge Nintendo's online services entirely on the quality of the voice chat. People go on about how essential it is for teamwork and communication but from my experience 90% of the time its mostly little more than a cesspit of insults, trolling, and negativity. Frankly a good majority of people who are serious about voice chat will likely use something like Discord or Skype.
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Re: Massive Nintendo Switch System Update - Version 4.0.0 - Adds Video Capture and More
also I might add they mentioned pre purchasing and pre loading will now be available on the eshop
Re: Rainway Streaming App Continues to Push the Switch Version, Teasing Cuphead Footage
From what I hear MDHR mentioned they would consider bringing Cuphead to other systems if the game is successful enought
Re: The Nintendo Creators Program Now Rules Out Live Streaming on YouTube
As a few others have pointed out a lot of it may have had to do with what happened with PewDiePie recently. Lets not forget Nintendo is a company that is highly protective of its brands as well as dedicated to controlling its message. From a company like Nintendo's standpoint a livestream filled with swearing and profanity can be become an easy PR liability. From what I hear Youtube is kinda dying and many are actually migrating over to Twitch
Re: FIFA 18 on Nintendo Switch Accounts for a Tiny Percentage of UK Launch Sales
As several have pointed out its too early to call doom and gloom on EA support yet considering Switches relatively small user base right now coupled with the fact the UK is basically Sony land. Not to mention we don't know how many switch copies were produced and alotted for launch
Re: Video: Here's How FIFA 18 On Switch Compares To The PlayStation 4 Version
@Nintendoforlife That can be expected considering how the majority of Switches online infrastructure doesn't really exist yet and is probably still in development. I wouldn't let EA off entirely either in this case since you would think they would have the capability to host it themselves with how you have to link your Xbox account to your Origin account. I think Nintendo is listening really considering how they puished back the launch to next year likely for more refinement and they updated their app recently with some much needed fixes. Friends aside I find much of Switches online is pretty good performance wise.
Re: Better Together Minecraft Update Goes Live, But Won't Arrive on Switch Until Winter
I am not too bothered by it. Part of it might have to do with the fact the bulk of Switches online service isn't functioning yet
Re: Nintendo Takes Down Super Mario 64 Online Videos And Creator's Patreon
I mean seriously who didn't see this coming. Nintendo is a business they aren't your best friend. If he was funding this project via partreon then yeah he technically was profiting off Nintendo's IP
Re: Crypt of the NecroDancer Will Bring Its Unique and Funky Dungeon Crawling to the Switch
I also hear the switch version will have an exclusive character
Re: Don't Pay Over The Odds For A SNES Classic Mini, Urges Reggie Fils-Aime
He does make a good point though that the best way to combat scalpers is to not give them your money in the first place. Also I don't think the supply issues are really that bad considering how I have heard stories of literally crates full of NES Minis being sold on Ebay. It just seems like that because the scalpers are buying up everything for themselves leaving the rest of us folks with the scraps
Re: L.A. Noire Is The Latest Game To Fall Foul Of The Dreaded "Switch Tax"
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/906053345206566912 this explains a lot
Re: Splatoon 2 Designer Explains Why The Maps Rotate And Salmon Run Is Time-Limited
I think they already explained why they have timed map rotation which is to keep people from gravitating to the same map all the time.
It's a similar case with salmon run mainly to avoid splitting the player base and prevent people from easily abusing the system
Re: Editorial: Mandatory Memory Cards for Switch Retail Games is a Messy Solution
I feel this is just another case where people are making mountains out of molehills over nothing. A good sized Micro SD card can be had for relatively cheap these days. Really though flash memory is the only good option for a system like switch. I shoudn't have to remind people of what happened when Sony thought sticking an actual disc drive in the PSP was a good idea.
Lets not act like Nintendo isn't aware of the issue either. They do plan on adding support for external drives in the future and switch actually supports mirco SD cards up to 2TB which don't really exist yet.
I will not be surprised if eventually we reach an all digital future. I mean we have already seen this PC games where even with boxed copies the disc usually contains little more than the basic installation files after which its pretty much tied to your Steam/EA/Blizzard account
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@Kalmaro I think people are overreacting here. Really this is hardly surprising considering the update heavy nature of games in this day and age plus as you and a few others said a good sized memory card can be had for pretty cheap these days. Right now I have a 64 GB SD card in my switch which should set me well for a while.
Adding a hard drive into a switch just wouldn't be practical for various reasons. Case in point PSP where Sony thought sticking an actual disc drive into a portable was a good idea. Flash memory is ideal for a portable but it tends to be more expensive in larger amounts.
Its nice that they actually put a clear warning on the box
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Asaki Thats pretty much the problem right there then there really are plenty of systems to go round. The problem is greedy ass people buy them all up for themselves just so they can ransom them off for an inflated price
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
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Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Yorumi I say I am not upset since you seem to create this idea that I am when really I am not. Its funny really how you seem to get upset when I call people out for being overly self entitled which isn't so much an insult as it is telling people to grow up and stop obsessing over something you can't get. I am trying to be helpful here by explaining why its better to just move on here
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 Shortages can be blamed on many things really
Nintendo for not anticipating demand enough
The manufacturers for not having enough parts
Scalpers for being too damn greedy
Retailers for not taking enough steps to discourage scalping and for picking bad times to put up pre orders
The consumers themselves for buying from Scalpers which basically encourages this sort of thing.
The whole pre order culture which creates an ideal environment for scalpers
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Yorumi Again my point sails completely over your head. I don't take cheap shots at people and no I am not upset I am just trying to be reasonable here and trying to explain to people why getting worked up over a piece of plastic is just stupid. You and Cronos actions speak of your own nature as well. When people like me just try to show a little common sense you feel the need to take pot shots at us and call us blind apologists simply cause we don't conform to your own idea of how Nintendo operates
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 You are only half right. The way it works is that Nintendo approaches a manufacturer and they are contracted to produce a set quantity of units. If Nintendo wants to make more they need to negotiate in addition to the manufacturer themselves needing to have the resources necessary
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Yorumi There you go twisting my words to fit your views. I am not upset over what people post but I like Syrek can't help but be disgusted by the sheer sense of self entitlement over something that people don't really need. Like he said its about the perspective and how you look at the problems you face rather than just lashing out in anger and entitlement
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 No I have not admitted defeat I don't get upset over it because I know there are more important things in life to worry about then a glorified lump of plastic. I think you are the one who lost cause when I am simply trying to be rational and show some common sense yet you simply continue to lash out and spout the same broken record nonsense about it all being 100% Nintendo's fault even when I calmly explained why thats an extremely pre mature assumption
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 There are number of reasons for it but to understand them you need to consider things from a business perspective. If the rumors are true and they are coming out with an N64 classic in the coming year continuing to make more Mini SNESs would just cut into resources for the N64 Mini and it would likely just end up clogging up shelf space that could be going to the N64 MIni as well.
Also it was likely decided from the start that they would produce only a certain amount of SNES minis
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Yorumi I think you and others are missing his point. There are plenty of other things in the world that are worth getting upset over more than a mini SNES. Also I doubt all the screaming crying and whining on this site will change anything since its mostly just an extremely vocal minority. Why do you people feel the need to own every single thing Nintendo puts out even if you don't really need it
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Syrek24 Well said. Its just a freaking lump of plastic with a bunch of 20 year old games hardly something worth boycotting a company over
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
seriously the salt here is bloody ridiculous. If you seriously are gonna cry scream and whine like an 8 year old and shout insults at Nintendo simply cause you can't get ahold of a freaking lump of circuits and plastic then you might need to get your life straight
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 some things are easier to predict or anticipate than others.. Perhaps the parts shortages didn't really come up until after switch had entered production. Also do you ever think maybe its the pre order culture that is to blame here since it creates an ideal environment for scalping.
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Deadstanley The thing is though there are so many factors to consider with the supply chain its just unrealistic to blame everything solely on Nintendo. Nintendo simply doesn't have the sort of infrastructure and resources enjoyed by the other tech giants not to mention shelf space is much more precious in this day and age. You can't just churn out more units at the snap of a finger either. With stuff like the NES and SNES mini manufacturers are contracted to produce a set number of units if you want more you need to negotiate which takes time.
Its not like Nintendo is unaware of demand either. at one point they actually had to send in Switches by air just to keep up but keep in mind air freight gets expensive real fast
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 I know with Switch and NES Mini it can't be due to incompetence since its been stated there have been issues with parts shortages which are pretty much beyond Nintendo's control.
Another example is with the Wii. That was pretty much Nintendo being caught off guard by the demand. Remember back before Wii launched everyone was dismissing it and saying it would never catch on. Nobody expected it to sell as well as it did.
You have to consider retailers are also at fault here for not taking better measures to discourage or stop scalping
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 And how might I ask did they know before hand that NAND memory and screens were gonna be in short supply
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@AtlanteanMan Classic blaming it all on one company without even considering how supply chain and manufacturing works
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@SmaMan Thank you its nice to see someone with some semblence of common sense here. I work at Wal Mart now and from what I understand products are not sent directly to the store they end up at a regional distribution center first where they are then shipped out to various stores. I was told by one of my co workers the reason it took so long to get more Switches in was because apparently the system never bothered to renew the order once the initial allotment was sold out. I since I work on unloading Trucks I have seen Switches come in although we don't get many at a time. What likely happens is that the allotment for each store is decided at the distribution warehouse.
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 I can put the blame partly on apple here since its been stated Nintendo has had to compete with them for parts and they often get the lions share
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 I never said its the customers fault. I know its not entirely Nintendo's fault either since in many cases its been due to factors that are beyond their control with switch being a good example of this
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@The switch shortages have already been explained. Its a shortage of NAND memory and screens coupled with Apple getting the lions share of the parts. Its completely out of Nintendo's own control yet you people insist they are 100% responsible simply cause you cannot be bothered to understand how supply chain and manufacturing works
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@XCWarrior Apple doesn't have supply issues because they probably get higher priority on the manufacturing pecking order. Nintendo isn't some mega tech conglomerate like Sony or MS who likely have far greater resource pools and financial backing
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Crono1973 The supply problems from what I have seen are not so much incompetence as they are due to factors that are beyond Nintendo's control. They mentioned with the NES Mini there were difficulties obtaining parts. With Switch its been well known there has been a parts shortage going around in the industry and Nintendo also has to compete with Apple who often gets the lions share of components
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
@Deadstanley Really you are giving up on them just because you can't get ahold of a reproduction console with a bunch of 20 year old games?
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
As a few have pointed out its not Nintendo's fault US retailers put their pre orders up at the worst times
Re: Dataminers Have Found 3DS Code in Mega Man Legacy Collection 2
@Jeronan I don't think it was bad sales since from what I hear the 3DS version of Legacy Collection actually sold the highest
Re: Colourful Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 Edition Bundle is Heading to North America Soon
so much whine here
Re: 'Battle Inspired' Rewards Added to My Nintendo in North America
@Spoony_Tech they technically have Splatoon 2 rewards in Japan as in exclusive gear
Re: 'Battle Inspired' Rewards Added to My Nintendo in North America
@Spoony_Tech Switch reward probably aren't here yet likely cause they will tie heavily into Switches online service which has not launched
Re: Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Keep Top 10 Places in the UK Charts
It was smart of Nintendo to release Splatoon 2 during July it gave the Switch added momentum for the Summer
Re: UFO 50 Brings a Team of Talented Developers Together for an 8-bit Collection
Wow Action 52 looks amazing
Re: Editorial: The Switch eShop Library is Starting to Look Like the Real Deal
@gatorboi352 That wasn't really the point of this article
Re: Editorial: Nintendo, Somehow, Has Gone Backwards With Voice Chat on the Switch
I think people are getting worked up way too much over this. They didn't even make that headset and they did mention it wouldn't be the only solution. I also recall them saying that the app and online service would be in a LIMITED form when it first launched with Splatoon 2. Also simply downloading the app just to give it a 1 star rating is about as effective as storming onto a trailers youtube page just to mash the dislike button. The app has a feedback button why don't people just use that instead rather than raging online about how much they think the app sucks. Also it helps to be civil when voicing your complaints.
The author of this article makes a good point that its not really fair to judge Nintendo's online services entirely on the quality of the voice chat. People go on about how essential it is for teamwork and communication but from my experience 90% of the time its mostly little more than a cesspit of insults, trolling, and negativity. Frankly a good majority of people who are serious about voice chat will likely use something like Discord or Skype.
Re: Gallery: A Look Back At Some Of Miiverse's Craziest And Most Beautiful Moments
I still remember how much meme hell the Splatoon miiverse was. Good times
Re: "Lack Of Buttons" Might Prevent LawBreakers From Coming To Switch
Well at least he admitted he was wrong
Re: Oddworld Creator Lorne Lanning "Has No Faith" In Switch
@ECMIM Really? Kinda low for him to say stuff like this just to get attention
Re: Oddworld Creator Lorne Lanning "Has No Faith" In Switch
I remember seeing this interview a while back ago. I can't help but wonder if Lorne is kicking himself right now with how well Switch has been doing