One of the intriguing plotlines of the early months of the Switch was the very public efforts of those behind the Rainway streaming app to promote its future on the system. If you need a reminder, it's an app that allows you to stream a PC to a variety of devices via web browser technology; utilising this the developers showed many top tier games running on Nintendo's system.
The appeal is obvious - those with a gaming PC would be able to play games on the Switch that will never otherwise see the light of day on the hardware. The big question mark, however, is whether the app will ever be allowed - officially - on the Switch; naturally there are a lot of doubts about that.
Over recent weeks and months the Rainway team hasn't been put off, and is now teasing footage of co-op Cuphead play via the Switch; it's been a hot recent release on PC and Xbox One.
https://twitter.com/RainwayApp/status/919521490160189442
There are a few issues to be cleared before this should generate legitimate hype - performance via Switch (through its browser) still needs to be shown to be strong. The bigger problem is that already highlighted above - actually getting permission from Nintendo to release the app on the eShop. The Switch doesn't even have conventional apps like YouTube, Netflix etc yet, and there are various pitfalls and considerations around an app that would allow people to stream content from an external device (in this case their PC) to play non-platform games on the console.
It seems like a longshot, but strange things happen sometimes. Rainway is planning to release a beta of its app soon, though any prospective Switch release is still up in the air.
Thanks to all that sent this in.
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I kinda hope it never actually does get publicly released. They just keep putting out these teaser images and videos forever so we can watch the escalation of fan response as they go from excitement to confusion to anger to acceptance that it was all a wash from the start and possibly a hoax.
I've not heard about this till the other day when my brother asked me about it. Said he's been eyeing it for 2 years. I'll have to check it out soon I suppose!
I'd be willing to bet a ridiculous amount of money Nintendo never allows this. It'll be restricted to hacked/unofficial means of installation.
Love the idea, already stream to Shield Tablet when at work and this would be brilliant. Not holding my breath mind.
Unfortunately, I really doubt this will get approved by Nintendo but I'd love to be proven wrong. After seeing this, I need to play Cuphead on Switch one way or another. I just bought it yesterday on PC and am seriously enjoying it!
there is a 0% chance of this coming through the legit eShop. that would be nintendo handing its entire software income stream away to other companies.
I think they just keep teasing it in the hope that they build up enough fans hopes that it'll get to a point where "surely Nintendo won't stop this now and upset so many of its own fan base" . Oh you can bet they will stop it and stop it they will. All that hard work to get it running and all these little teases are completely in vain. It's not got a snowballs chance in hell of being approved and quite rightly too. Anyone who thinks it should be allowed hasn't really thought it through.
As others have said though, it's just a matter of time until the Switch is hacked and this could still find its way onto many a Switch through unofficial means. I've read that they were not planning to charge for it, so if their end goal is just to show it can be done and are realistic about it chances then so be it, I wish them luck.I
Nintendo will probably not allow it, if they are sensible. But the Switch will inevitably be hacked and then there is no stopping this. Meanwhile: Is there a real advantage of rainway over shield tablet or steam link?
This better not be on the Switch. It feels wrong and dirty and unethical due to the devs having no involvement on this
Would rather have a port of cupheads on the Switch then streaming it.
Can't see Nintendo allowing that in a million years.
A native port of Cuphead on Switch would be nice though!
Last time I saw Rainway in action on Switch, it had pretty bad input lag, but it’s a cool idea.
Is there a reason we couldn’t get a legit port of Cuphead on Switch? I assume it’s owned by Microsoft considering there is no PS4 version? I’m really out of the loop with PS/XB.
It’s like the only XBone game I’ve ever cared to play (mostly for the animation).
No chance of Cuphead on other systems , game was published by Microsoft.
I support the idea of open internet and Nintendo should let fans decide what apps they need instead trying to make the decision for them.
Nintendo also should try to make a deal to bring Cuphead on the switch.
@justin233 I think Microsoft have funded most of it's development. They seen the devs ambition and stepped in to help them achieve it. Just like EA did with 'Unravel' and a few other titles coming in the next few months, 'Fe', 'A Way Out' and 'Sea of Solitude'. You would think Microsoft would want to keep Cuphead to themselves because they've not really got much else to shout about but you never know with them. Minecraft and their 'Better Together' program have shown they are willing to share. If it was to happen though, I'd imagine it will be only for Switch.
@business-scrub They said they are porting cuphead to the swtich.
http://studiomdhr.com/cuphead-game-update-and-unity/ In case you wanted proof. The reason why they used unity is so they can port to many platforms. Cuphead will most likely be a timed exclusive but they have said they would like to port it to the switch.
Please no.
This would be neat... If I didn't already have too many games to play on my Switch now with a ton more on the way.
If only Microsoft brought their play anywhere initiative to Switch as well. I would LOVE to finally get to play Gears of War 4 without buying an Xbone.
@SanderEvers Of course, but I can dream lol. Although Gears 4 just so happens to run on Unreal Engine 4, which is apparently quite flexible.
Ok, my bad. http://time.com/4123150/cuphead-preview/ It will be a console Xbox exclusive. They will be ported to mac and Linux later but it will have lifetime exclusive for xbone and will remain that way. I just wanted to say I was wrong and show the evidence I have found.
Why would they need Nintendo approval if it works via browser?
@SirRandall I was about to say that I was pretty sure it was Xbox exclusive, but looks like you've already corrected yourself. So I guess I'll just have to hope that Rainway makes it to the Switch, I won't hold my breath though.
this would be cool. I do Steam and RemotePlay on my iPad with a MFI controller. But this could be added value for people who do not have that.
@business-scrub I rather admit I am wrong than try to argue about something I thought was right. I thought I read someplace it was going to be on the swtich. But that might be more wishful thinking. It's a shame this is a perfect game for the swtich.
https://youtu.be/rBMO8F1I-h4?t=6m40s
Streaming apps like this are common in Android app stores and other devices. It's just a matter of whether Nintendo would be alright with it. It could bring more value to the system but Nintendo night think it's too complicated or would interfere with their business.
As much as I'd like for Nintendo to allow this, I feel that Nintendo is viewing this as soft piracy in that Nintendo, with the Switch, would be viewed as championing their device to stream. It opens the door to possibly Rainway allowing the PS4 or XboxOne to stream their games, or even the other way around. I'd be surprised if it got released on the Switch, but I do think that it will survive in the underground regardless cause it's still a cool idea in concept.
Nintendo will kick this out the door the second they come in to ask permission.
I'd rather just have Cuphead on Switch to be honest.
doesn't matter if it is real - the lag would make it no fun
I'm waiting so eagerly to hear more about this, Rainway would be the ultimate killer app for the Switch.
Just imagine having the humongous PC games libary available on your Switch! I can imagine tons of people buying a Switch just because of it.
I don't see how Nintendo could say no to such a killer app. It could easily double or triple their sales figures.
As cool as this app sounds for the Switch, I won't hold my breath over it. Let's just see what happens...
@SirRandall They talked about the sequel not being tied down to MS and that later entries in the series can come to any platform. though by the sounds of it, the developers are not in a rush to make a sequel
This was the main reason I got my Nvidia Shield tablet for PC streaming anywhere and it works great. I cannot fathom how a browser could stream better than the shield does and the Shield can only do it because all new Nvidia cards have a special core dedicated to game streaming...
@yuwarite you can plug into a switch with an ethernet?
Got Cuphead on Xbox One. Fun game, gotta love that classic 30’s cartoon look.
From what I hear MDHR mentioned they would consider bringing Cuphead to other systems if the game is successful enought
... can we just get Cuphead?
@shani Nintendo is not going to be okay with this. Sure selling more switches would be nice, but what about their software? Which is basically the number 1 money stream.
@NickOfTime90 What do you mean exactly? It wouldn't take away anything from their software, it would only add to it. People would still play Mario, Zelda, Splatoon etc. but also PC games.
It would basicall add thousands or even millions of games to the Switch's library without the need of any porting efforts.
@shani Yeah I see what you mean but why would people buy Doom on switch if they could just play the PC version on it? Nintendo will most likely rather have third party games released on the switch itself. Also if you have a whole library of PC games available than that would definitely hurt the sales of switch games.
Something like this may happen in the future. But bandwidth (particularly localized) and server performance issues will continue to be a frustrating barrier for a long time. When Nintendo does eventually allow this, they'll probably make it a major feature of a new hardware device and either develop it in-house or partner up with someone to integrate it fully into the system from the get go, for maximum control.
Meanwhile, Cuphead belongs on Switch and hopefully Microsoft has paid enough partial-exclusivity-cash to cover the deficit this studio is accruing compared to the universe where it is releasing for Switch with a ostensibly a much better audience correlation.
@vitalemrecords Yes, you can; you just need a USB Ethernet adapter. That was the only way for me to play Splatoon on Wii U without constant disconnects.
No need for the streaming app.
Need for Cuphead though (and it should cost the same as other versions, but that won't happen sadly)!
@bluesdance Wrong. A big selling point of the Switch is being able to game on-the-go. Rainway will most likely only work in the same building on the same network. If it works for remote streaming, it likely would be awhile before it's performant enough to be enjoyable, and that still requires you have access to an internet connection when out-and-about.
Switch has a ton of good games coming to it, that run local to it.
I play on getting Rainway when it releases so I can play my non-Switch games on my Switch, while I'm sitting on the couch watching a movie. But if those games are natively available on the Switch, I'd rather buy them, so I can play without having to rely on my gaming PC.
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