I don't see whats so bad about the pricing considering that you are essentially getting a portable and a console in one plus the tech within the system itself is pretty advanced.
According to this dev Nintendo has the Switch set up in such a way that price cuts are possible while maintaining profitability.
I share some of the same thoughts as the author in that I can't help but get irritated seeing youtubers and naysayers in general latch on to any bit of negativity with little to balance out their arguments.
I have heard various Nintendo reps claim it will actually be 1080p 60fps on Wii U and that the hardware used in the events was actually based off older hardware revisions
@ThanosReXXX Glad to see a few people here with some semblance of common sense. What exactly does he mean by communication breakdown? Considering how Nintendo was able to convince Bethesda to port Skyrim to Switch and EA to bring FIFA. I don't think they just told Gearbox to up theirs and dumped em. As a few others have said we aren't getting the full story here
@Marshi Except that PS4 and X1 have been out for several years at this point and they have had time to build their library in addition to several price cuts. You forget that PS4 was 400 dollars when it first launch and that didn't include games, accessories, and online subscription fees. With Switch it's obvious there will likely be more info to come in the next few weeks yet you act as if Nintendo has signed it's death warrant already
I find the self entitlement from people almost borderline disgusting. Do you people even realize this is basically a GOTY edition meant to appeal to those who likely never bought a Wii U to begin with? In fact I think it's a step above most other GOTY editions because they actually include entirely new characters and content in addition to all the previous DLC
Really I find it utterly ridiculous that people are just pooping on this service when there are still a lot of details we still don't know such as how much it will cost and what else is there especially considering a lot of features won't go live till fall
@Kidakairis MS has been requiring people to pay for online ever since the original Xbox. Subscription fees are likely for server maintenence among other things. Running online servers certainly isn't cheap and they need to recoup their costs somehow. Steam probably doesn't have a subscription because Valve probably makes enough money from sales already.
Also if you really think PS+ is much better go on their monthly blog updates and just look at the comments
Switch has a headset jack and there have even been ads for Switch headsets
You can still keep the games as long as you pay for them by the end of the trial period. Most NES games can be easily be beaten in a day or a month anyway so I don't really much of a problem here
I am also fairly certain you will still be able to buy VC games normally considering NEO GEO support has already been confirmed
Even without the subscription you can still access the eShop and share screenshots.
Also having a subscription based service can only mean good things if it results in improved online experience.
Also with PS+ you don't get to keep the games if you cancel your subscription. They aren't really free anyway
Why is it such a problem when Nintendo does something that the others have been doing for years
300 dollars seems fair price considering the tech they are putting into this thing. For what is supposedly an Nvidia Shield on Steroids the games looked pretty impressive.
I don't really get the complaining over the paid online if it means better service. Sony and MS have been doing it for years. It was inevitable Nintendo would get in on the act too.
Translation could have been better but still it was nowhere near as bad as the Sonic Anniversary stream.
When was the last time really a console had a killer launch lineup. People say Nintendo hasn't learned anything but they kinda have considering BoTW is a launch game and the Switches first year is already shaping up to be miles better than the majority of Wii U's lifetime
The limited quantities is likely for two reasons. One is likely to try an keep inventory manageable on launch day and the other is probably to keep themselves from getting overwhelmed too much.
@Sanicranfast I think that was a different company though. Also I will add it's highly petty to hold grudges over something that happened over 20 years ago
Oh boo hoo this guy should have known well what he was getting into. He broke user agreement and he paid the price for it. I can't believe people are actually defending this guy. It doesn't matter what his intentions were this basically could have easily opened a door to hackers and exploits. Nintendo had good reaosn to shut this down
The red flag for me is how exactly do we know this guy is telling the truth since from what I understand you need to have a PS4 developers license and such to access this sort of info.
Also last I heard there was no mention of Switch in UE Master
Ya know I find sad that investors are basing their predictions off app store reviews of all things. I wonder if they even realize half of those one star reviews aren't even actual reviews at all
@Azooooz Good article that gives a lot of insight into the chip manufacturing process. Goes to show why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet especially rumors.
Look at all the doom sayers here. I mean seriously people let's be real here. If Switch really was that weak I don't think third parties would be as positive about as they have been. Also there is the chance this info could be based off early development kits. I think it's basically impossible to make Switch less powerful than an actual shield since unlike a Shield it doesn't have to deal with a power sucking OS and such.
Power might not be as much of an issue this time if the rumors are true that porting to Switch is a breeze
It's kinda sad really the majority of those negative reviews are not even actual reviews at all just whining over how they have to pay 10 dollars for the whole game. Also from what I have heard app store reviews are like Youtube comments usually toxic and completely meaningless.
Mario Run costs as much as a basic meal at Mcdonalds hardly expensive if you ask me. I honestly think the reviews would be better if people weren't spoiled by Apples 99 cents for everything policy
@shiggysplumber No he is using some common sense something alot of people round here seem to lack when it comes to this sort of thing. This was a novelty product designed for a select niche audience those numbers are not that bad really
From what I have heard the majority of reviews aren't even real
reviews at all. Most of it is just female dogging about the price and always online deal
@ProfessorToad I find it funny you people complain about having to pay 10 dollar for an iPhone game yet a lot of those people are the likely the same people who will happily blow hundreds of dollars on micro transactions.
I see no issue with this games price considering it doesn't constantly slap you with ads and pay 2 win BS. Not to mention it has a fair bit of quality and polish compared to the cesspool that is the appstore.
This is a Mario game that has been designed for the mobile crowd and it does it's job well
Not too surprising really. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to release it on a dead platform plus it also means helping flesh out the Switches launch lineup more. At least they are being forthcoming in this and allowing Wii U backers the opportunity to upgrade their pledge to a Switch version
@WiltonRoots Yeah it's somewhat understandable on an iPad but those also come with 3/4G capability not to mention with smartphones you are usually connected to a network
Kinda funny how people give Nintendo crap for this despite the fact plenty of other games require a constant internet connection. It's not hard to see why considering how big on piracy Nintendo is not to mention how easy it can be to cheat the system when offline
This does seem to line up with the rumor the Switch will have analog triggers according to LKD which was likely one of the biggest reasons Wii U never got gamecube for VC on top of the fact disc based games are much more trickier to emulate properly.
@WilliamCalley You do realize your comment makes zero sense at all. So you are assuming BoTW will bomb simply cause of a few minutes of footage that may or may not be representative of the final product and despite the fact the Switch version will likely run much better than this?
@WilliamCalley If you actually watched the video you would see the framerate is fairly consistent for the most part. Some occasional dips but far from what I would call unplayable. Also this is the Wii U version you can expect some sacrifices had to be made
@WilliamCalley The Wii U can handle the game but of course some sacrifices had to be made. How exactly are the devs having their vision handcuffed if they are going to be releasing it on superior hardware meaning they will be able to achieve close to their original vision. Development on the Switch version actually started after the Wii U version from what I hear Also do you realize how incredibly pre mature it is to think the Wii U version will be the exact same as the Switch version.
The reason devs like Ubisoft get shat on more is that they are not the best at good optimization something Nintendo has been shown to be very good at. Optimization tends to be done in the final stages of development so there is a good chance this may have been an older build.
Also stream and video quality can make a game look worse than it actually is. The reason many 3DS games tend to look worse then they appear when shown on places such as youtube is mainly cause of it's 240p resolution which doesn't look good when blown up on a larger screen.
@Phin68 Even with good optimization you can likely expect some degree of performance downgrade since this game seems to be really pushing the Wii U hardware to it's limit. Also it doesn't seem as bad now after rewatching the segment meaning the stream quality was also a factor
@WilliamCalley I am not doing mental gymnastics here. It was clear from the start this game would push the Wii U to it's limits so it's not unreasonable to expect some performance sacrifices had to be made which likely won't be a problem on Switch. Cmon people is it really that hard for you to use a bit of logic?
Kinda silly to complain about framerate considering this was likely the Wii U version coupled with the fact it may or may not have been an early build. Also the stream quality might have been a factor as well
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Re: Editorial: Pricing Blunders Have Distorted The Narrative Around Nintendo Switch
@GrailUK You could also apply that to Youtubers and Youtube commentors as well
Re: Editorial: Pricing Blunders Have Distorted The Narrative Around Nintendo Switch
I don't see whats so bad about the pricing considering that you are essentially getting a portable and a console in one plus the tech within the system itself is pretty advanced.
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/01/16/syrenne-mcnulty-a-nintendo-switch-developer-shares-further-details/
According to this dev Nintendo has the Switch set up in such a way that price cuts are possible while maintaining profitability.
I share some of the same thoughts as the author in that I can't help but get irritated seeing youtubers and naysayers in general latch on to any bit of negativity with little to balance out their arguments.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Puts Breath of the Wild, MK8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 to the Test
@PlywoodStick I was mainly referring to the Switch version.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Puts Breath of the Wild, MK8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 to the Test
I have heard various Nintendo reps claim it will actually be 1080p 60fps on Wii U and that the hardware used in the events was actually based off older hardware revisions
Re: Gearbox CEO Doesn't See Borderlands 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch
@ThanosReXXX Glad to see a few people here with some semblance of common sense. What exactly does he mean by communication breakdown? Considering how Nintendo was able to convince Bethesda to port Skyrim to Switch and EA to bring FIFA. I don't think they just told Gearbox to up theirs and dumped em. As a few others have said we aren't getting the full story here
Re: Investors React Negatively to Nintendo Switch Launch Details
@Marshi Except that PS4 and X1 have been out for several years at this point and they have had time to build their library in addition to several price cuts. You forget that PS4 was 400 dollars when it first launch and that didn't include games, accessories, and online subscription fees. With Switch it's obvious there will likely be more info to come in the next few weeks yet you act as if Nintendo has signed it's death warrant already
Re: First Impressions: Back on Track with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
I find the self entitlement from people almost borderline disgusting. Do you people even realize this is basically a GOTY edition meant to appeal to those who likely never bought a Wii U to begin with? In fact I think it's a step above most other GOTY editions because they actually include entirely new characters and content in addition to all the previous DLC
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
Really I find it utterly ridiculous that people are just pooping on this service when there are still a lot of details we still don't know such as how much it will cost and what else is there especially considering a lot of features won't go live till fall
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
@Kidakairis MS has been requiring people to pay for online ever since the original Xbox. Subscription fees are likely for server maintenence among other things. Running online servers certainly isn't cheap and they need to recoup their costs somehow. Steam probably doesn't have a subscription because Valve probably makes enough money from sales already.
Also if you really think PS+ is much better go on their monthly blog updates and just look at the comments
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
My the ignorance shown here is astounding.
Switch has a headset jack and there have even been ads for Switch headsets
You can still keep the games as long as you pay for them by the end of the trial period. Most NES games can be easily be beaten in a day or a month anyway so I don't really much of a problem here
I am also fairly certain you will still be able to buy VC games normally considering NEO GEO support has already been confirmed
Even without the subscription you can still access the eShop and share screenshots.
Also having a subscription based service can only mean good things if it results in improved online experience.
Also with PS+ you don't get to keep the games if you cancel your subscription. They aren't really free anyway
Why is it such a problem when Nintendo does something that the others have been doing for years
Re: Hands On: Putting the Nintendo Switch Hardware Through Its Paces
@ThanosReXXX Welcome to the internet where all logic and common sense goes to die
Re: Hands On: Putting the Nintendo Switch Hardware Through Its Paces
@ThanosReXXX That's Nintendolife and much of the internet for you no positivity allowed
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of the Nintendo Switch Presentation?
300 dollars seems fair price considering the tech they are putting into this thing. For what is supposedly an Nvidia Shield on Steroids the games looked pretty impressive.
I don't really get the complaining over the paid online if it means better service. Sony and MS have been doing it for years. It was inevitable Nintendo would get in on the act too.
Translation could have been better but still it was nowhere near as bad as the Sonic Anniversary stream.
When was the last time really a console had a killer launch lineup. People say Nintendo hasn't learned anything but they kinda have considering BoTW is a launch game and the Switches first year is already shaping up to be miles better than the majority of Wii U's lifetime
Re: Nintendo NY Store Confirms A 'Limited Quantity of Pre-Orders' for Nintendo Switch on 13th January
The limited quantities is likely for two reasons. One is likely to try an keep inventory manageable on launch day and the other is probably to keep themselves from getting overwhelmed too much.
Re: Mass Effect Producer Says There's No Plan to Bring Mass Effect Andromeda to Switch
Really his statement seems kinda click baity and disingenuous
Re: Mass Effect Producer Says There's No Plan to Bring Mass Effect Andromeda to Switch
I think they already said this before. This isn't actually new really
Re: More Nintendo Switch Rumours Emerge Online
I also find it dubious she just claims Geno's info is fake despite the fact there is a lot of info in that rumor that seems pretty plausible
Re: More Nintendo Switch Rumours Emerge Online
Also I might add RDR2 on Switch is mainly Take Two's decision not Rockstar's
Re: More Nintendo Switch Rumours Emerge Online
@Sanicranfast I think that was a different company though. Also I will add it's highly petty to hold grudges over something that happened over 20 years ago
Re: Nintendo Slams 3DS Homebrew App Which Enables Piracy With Takedown Notice
Oh boo hoo this guy should have known well what he was getting into. He broke user agreement and he paid the price for it. I can't believe people are actually defending this guy. It doesn't matter what his intentions were this basically could have easily opened a door to hackers and exploits. Nintendo had good reaosn to shut this down
Re: New Code Found in Unreal Engine 4 Further Reinforces Claims of Handheld / Docked Power Gap with Nintendo Switch
The red flag for me is how exactly do we know this guy is telling the truth since from what I understand you need to have a PS4 developers license and such to access this sort of info.
Also last I heard there was no mention of Switch in UE Master
Re: Nintendo's Share Value Plummets Despite Super Mario Run Downloads and Revenue Performance
Ya know I find sad that investors are basing their predictions off app store reviews of all things. I wonder if they even realize half of those one star reviews aren't even actual reviews at all
Re: Eurogamer Report Suggests Nintendo Switch GPU Runs 60 Percent Slower When Undocked
@Azooooz Good article that gives a lot of insight into the chip manufacturing process. Goes to show why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet especially rumors.
Re: Eurogamer Report Suggests Nintendo Switch GPU Runs 60 Percent Slower When Undocked
@Azooooz good could you show us the link?
Re: Eurogamer Report Suggests Nintendo Switch GPU Runs 60 Percent Slower When Undocked
Look at all the doom sayers here. I mean seriously people let's be real here. If Switch really was that weak I don't think third parties would be as positive about as they have been. Also there is the chance this info could be based off early development kits. I think it's basically impossible to make Switch less powerful than an actual shield since unlike a Shield it doesn't have to deal with a power sucking OS and such.
Power might not be as much of an issue this time if the rumors are true that porting to Switch is a breeze
Re: Nintendo's Share Value Plummets Despite Super Mario Run Downloads and Revenue Performance
It's kinda sad really the majority of those negative reviews are not even actual reviews at all just whining over how they have to pay 10 dollars for the whole game. Also from what I have heard app store reviews are like Youtube comments usually toxic and completely meaningless.
Mario Run costs as much as a basic meal at Mcdonalds hardly expensive if you ask me. I honestly think the reviews would be better if people weren't spoiled by Apples 99 cents for everything policy
Re: NES Classic Edition Sold 196,000 Units in US Launch as Pokémon Sun and Moon Set Records
@JaxonH Nice to see someone who gets it here
Re: NES Classic Edition Sold 196,000 Units in US Launch as Pokémon Sun and Moon Set Records
@shiggysplumber No he is using some common sense something alot of people round here seem to lack when it comes to this sort of thing. This was a novelty product designed for a select niche audience those numbers are not that bad really
Re: Super Mario Run Currently The Top Grossing iOS Store App
From what I have heard the majority of reviews aren't even real
reviews at all. Most of it is just female dogging about the price and always online deal
Re: Super Mario Run's My Nintendo Rewards Are Live
Well it's something.
Re: Review: Super Mario Run (Mobile)
@ProfessorToad I find it funny you people complain about having to pay 10 dollar for an iPhone game yet a lot of those people are the likely the same people who will happily blow hundreds of dollars on micro transactions.
I see no issue with this games price considering it doesn't constantly slap you with ads and pay 2 win BS. Not to mention it has a fair bit of quality and polish compared to the cesspool that is the appstore.
This is a Mario game that has been designed for the mobile crowd and it does it's job well
Re: Video: Embrace the Weirdness of Snack World, Level-5's Next Big Thing
The robot at 1:16 reminds me of Jailbot from Superjail
Re: Yooka-Laylee Rattles Away From Wii U Release
Not too surprising really. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to release it on a dead platform plus it also means helping flesh out the Switches launch lineup more. At least they are being forthcoming in this and allowing Wii U backers the opportunity to upgrade their pledge to a Switch version
Re: Super Mario Run Will Require a Constant Online Connection
@WiltonRoots Yeah it's somewhat understandable on an iPad but those also come with 3/4G capability not to mention with smartphones you are usually connected to a network
Re: Super Mario Run Will Require a Constant Online Connection
Kinda funny how people give Nintendo crap for this despite the fact plenty of other games require a constant internet connection. It's not hard to see why considering how big on piracy Nintendo is not to mention how easy it can be to cheat the system when offline
Re: Preview: Running Wild in Super Mario Run
Apparently you can also unlock Toad as a MyNintendo reward
Re: Rumour: GameCube Virtual Console Coming To Nintendo Switch
I would be down for Billy Hatcher
Re: Rumour: GameCube Virtual Console Coming To Nintendo Switch
This does seem to line up with the rumor the Switch will have analog triggers according to LKD which was likely one of the biggest reasons Wii U never got gamecube for VC on top of the fact disc based games are much more trickier to emulate properly.
https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/806484175360524290
Re: Video: It's Not Hard to Spot the Difference in This Super Mario Maker 3DS & Wii U Comparison
I can't really notice much difference myself for the most part. Colors kinda look slightly washed out on 3DS is the biggest thing I can see
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@Mega_Yarn_Poochy I have seen games that run far worse than this
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@WilliamCalley You do realize your comment makes zero sense at all. So you are assuming BoTW will bomb simply cause of a few minutes of footage that may or may not be representative of the final product and despite the fact the Switch version will likely run much better than this?
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@WilliamCalley Several other people have said similar things
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@WilliamCalley If you actually watched the video you would see the framerate is fairly consistent for the most part. Some occasional dips but far from what I would call unplayable. Also this is the Wii U version you can expect some sacrifices had to be made
Better than Watch Dogs 2 on on PS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMitfqCgFqo
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/804535331882090496 This is The GameAwards version you can tell the quality is much worse here
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@FX29 I also find it silly how people think the Switch version will somehow run the same as the Wii U version
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Rewatching the footage I can't really notice any major dips and the framerate seems fairly consistent for the most part
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@WilliamCalley The Wii U can handle the game but of course some sacrifices had to be made. How exactly are the devs having their vision handcuffed if they are going to be releasing it on superior hardware meaning they will be able to achieve close to their original vision. Development on the Switch version actually started after the Wii U version from what I hear Also do you realize how incredibly pre mature it is to think the Wii U version will be the exact same as the Switch version.
The reason devs like Ubisoft get shat on more is that they are not the best at good optimization something Nintendo has been shown to be very good at. Optimization tends to be done in the final stages of development so there is a good chance this may have been an older build.
Also stream and video quality can make a game look worse than it actually is. The reason many 3DS games tend to look worse then they appear when shown on places such as youtube is mainly cause of it's 240p resolution which doesn't look good when blown up on a larger screen.
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@Phin68 Even with good optimization you can likely expect some degree of performance downgrade since this game seems to be really pushing the Wii U hardware to it's limit. Also it doesn't seem as bad now after rewatching the segment meaning the stream quality was also a factor
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@WilliamCalley I am not doing mental gymnastics here. It was clear from the start this game would push the Wii U to it's limits so it's not unreasonable to expect some performance sacrifices had to be made which likely won't be a problem on Switch. Cmon people is it really that hard for you to use a bit of logic?
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Kinda silly to complain about framerate considering this was likely the Wii U version coupled with the fact it may or may not have been an early build. Also the stream quality might have been a factor as well