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Nice to see Flipnote 3D back up and those videos seem interesting

@Lucina You hit the nail on the head. It always annoys me how whenever a Nintendo game doesn't have online or x feature people use it as an excuse to claim Nintendo doesn't get online multiplayer or is behind the times.

@PlyWoodStick those games you mentioned were originally designed for DS first and foremost. This game however is technically a port of a game that was originally designed for completely different and more powerful hardware. My guess is it was likely due to potential compatibility issues with the Wii U servers and Nintendo didn't feel like investing in a separate set of servers for the 3DS. Likely further complicated by the differences in how the 3DS handles net code compared to Wii U.

@Paddle1 As I said we have no idea what exactly is Nintendo's long term plan for this program. I am not denying it leaves much to be desired. I just believe it's important to consider what it could be like in the future and how it could evolve not just what it's like now in it's current state

@AfterAnAutopsy MyNintendo is still clearly in it's relative infancy. It was somewhat premature to think it would be like ClubNintendo right off the bat. They mentioned they are looking into offering physical rewards in the future.

How exactly is my point irrelevant because I am not with the popular majority here?

@AfterAnAutopsy Perhaps if you waited a bit before jumping in you wouldn't have as much reason to complain. I knew this was mainly a free rewards program so I made sure to keep expectations low. With any free service you can expect some sort of sacrifice or compromise.

Also that's rich telling me to go away when I have as much right to express my thoughts as anyone else on this site. So does that fact I think we should wait and see where this program goes rather than just dismissing it entirely simply cause of it's current state make my opinion irrelevant?

@AfterAnAutopsy I havent really invested in it much because I am waiting to see what they do with it down the line.

"When MyNintendo is still garbage in March go ahead and let me know." Nice crystal ball you have there. This is your problem you are just assuming it will never improve despite the fact there is a lot of room for improvement and what could potentially happen in the future. Frankly I find there are other things worth more complaining about than a free rewards program.

@AfterAnAutopsy Maybe we didn't know anything about Switch but Nintendo sure as hell did. Do you really think they didn't really plan on integrating Switch with MyNintendo in some way or another? They aren't that stupid. It doesn't take a genius that MyNintendo in it's current state is mostly filler for the bigger plans ahead. Also I recall hearing a rumor a while back ago that hinted at an achievement like system that actually get's you MyNintendo coins. Foreshadowing much?

Also why do you think the rewards seem so medicore at the moment? Simple cause with Wii U and 3DS Nintendo doesn't really have anything left to offer hence why most of the time it's discounts on older games and such. Let's face it Wii U is pretty much dead and 3DS is probably on it's way out at this point. Also common business sense dictates they can't simply slap a big discount on a game that just released.

Remember how Xbox Live got a major upgrade when the 360 released. How is it so hard for you to imagine something similar might happen to MyNintendo when Switch releases. The problem is that we don't really know what exactly Nintendo's long term plan with this thing is. You people are just rushing to conclusions and thinking it will always be like this. You have to think long term not short term.

@AfterAnAutopsy I am not being an optimist here it was pretty obvious from the start this was mainly intended with Nintendo's next gen platforms in mind

@Moon Most of those films were pretty good or decent from what I hear except for Shark Tale

It's likely a sign they they are preparing for a more extensive overhaul once Switch releases. It's not unlikely they will start rewarding coins for physical purchases again with Switch if NES Mini is any indication.

Also those new discounts are pretty decent

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Can't really see much difference

@PlywoodStick That's actually a surprisingly well thought out post

@Elithal Bingo. It's not really fair to heap all the blame on Nintendo here since there are other companies involved in the supply chain.

@Clownshoes I am not trying to shield Nintendo here but there is likely a good reason for why stuff like this happens other than the whole artificial scarcity song and dance people keep throwing out.

On Switch I think it's extremely premature to claim the hardware is undercooked when we barely know anything about it other than rumors. Of all the rumored ports I have seen I don't see any that are games that are 6+ years old. When I say survival mode I mean at the moment likely due to the fact Wii U's failure has not really put them in a good position to take a lot of huge risks.

What I find pathetic is how you people can get so worked up over how you can't get ahold of a glorified piece of plastic and circuitry.

The conspiracy person I was referring to wasn't Tom it was XC Warrior. Look at his earliest comment here.

"Nintendo no longer wants to make money. They're goal is to damage their brands enough so they can sell them off for 1/5 of what they were once worth and switch back to being a company that concentrates on love hotels."

Smells like typical conspiracy theorist dreck to me

@WilliamCalley Very funny

@XCWarrior I wasn't talking bout him. I was mainly referring to the person who thinks Nintendo no longer wants to make money and is trying to piss people off and destroy their brands on purpose just so they can go back to doing love hotels. I said conspiracy Kool-Aid not Nintendo Kool-Aid

@XCWarrior Sounds like someones been chugging the conspiracy kool aid

This is just one of those situations where Nintendo just can't win. No matter how much they produce scalpers will usually win anyways because thy usually just buy up all the systems just so they can horde them for themselves and ransom them off for insane prices. Really though I am getting tired of this artificial shortage idea people keep throwing out. They likely would likely have a much easier time keeping up with demand if it weren't for all the greedy ass scalpers.

To answer Damian's comment, consider that 3DS game cards are likely as as nowhere near complex and much easier to manufacture quickly in vast quantities compared to something like an NES Mini. Plus Pokemon is already popular enough as it is so it's relatively easy to anticipate demand for that game. The NES Mini as you said is basically a box that plays a limited selection of old games that are readily available elsewhere. It's not hard to see why from a business perspective they wouldn't expect it to sell a ton aside from a relatively niche audience.

I think it's obvious the Mini wasn't really intended to be Nintendo's flagship item for this Christmas. That was more likely Pokemon Sun and Moon.

I would agree with Toms assessment. Nintendo's recent failures like Wii U have basically forced them into a survival mode of sorts where they are afraid of producing excessive amounts of their products out of fear of them bombing and pissing off the shareholders even more. Sure Nintendo may have a lot of money but they are still quite small not to mention they lack the infrastructure and economic and financial muscle enjoyed by the bigger tech companies.

Like people say Nintendo be damned if they do damned if they don't

Part of me isn't too surprised really. I think Lego Dimensions is the only toys to life game gets it right since rather than releasing a new version every year they just add onto the main game with new characters and content. I am currently wondering if we will ever get Disney characters in Lego Dimensions considering Disney Infinity is now dead.

@mordecai You also need to consider that Nintendo needs to make sure their shipment is evenly distributed among retailers. 10 units per store may not seem like much but if you are talking about every store in America than it adds up fast

@BensonUii People also seem to forget that Wii was coming off the Gamecube which at the time was Nintendo's worst selling system in history. Many people mocked the system and said it would never catch on boy were they wrong

With the NES Mini I am kinda getting sick of people constantly throwing out the whole artificial scarcity idea. This is likely just a classic case of people buying up the product faster than Nintendo can make them. It's common with a lot of hot items.

It's easy to think think Nintendo is deliberately short selling from an outside perspective but in the business world accurately estimating supply and demand is much more difficult than it looks. It's also on the retailers to decide how much they want to order as well as how much shelf space they are willing to allocate to said product. The truth is no amount of pre orders would really cause them to alter their production quota which is likely why they didn't allow pre orders in the first place.

@BinaryFragger
This is just one of those situations where Nintendo can't win. If they over produce they risk getting stuck with unsold stock which is worse in the long run but even if they were able to produce enough units there is a good chance scalpers would overpurchase still leaving many people with nothing. Remember that one guy who bought up all the Rosalina amiibos simply so nobody else could have one. With the Majoras Mask 3DS they tried to combat scalpers with limits per customer but that didn't really work since the scalpers just used alt names to get around it.

I am not really defending Nintendo here but you can't fault them for wanting to be cautious considering they haven't exactly been at the top of the heap this gen. That's also likely why they said they lowballed their initial planned shipment of Switch to avoid getting burned too badly in the event the system flops

@AugustusOxy You hit the nail right on the head. To this day it continues to baffle me how so many people have so little understanding of how copyright works.

People like to bring up Sonic Mania but the difference is that Whitehead's team had full consent from Sega to use the Sonic name and assets along with the fact Sega themselves are publishing and profiting off the game. Big difference.

I don't see the problem with this since I think it's good that games like XCX be offered a second chance considering how a lot of these games undersold coupled with the Wii U's small install base. It might seem like ports to a Wii U owner but to an average person it might be seen as a completely new game entirely. You know there are people who didn't even know Mario 3D World existed

The problem is if they tried to stop or change the reviews people would likely see that as Nintendo strong arming critics into giving a good score

Wonder what they mean by bigger game?

@PlywoodStick Except the Nintendo of today is nothing like the Nintendo from the 80s. They are not really in a position where they can strong arm retailers. Considering shelf space is much more contested these days coupled with Nintendo's relatively poor performance in the past few years profit wise it's understandable they would err on the side of caution

@PlywoodStick With NES they likely had reason to be cautious considering this was in the wake of the Video Game Crash of 83, and most retailers at the time were understandably wary of carrying game consoles

@Clownshoes You do realize Switch doesn't come out til Spring right

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Except you fail to realize how much analysis goes into a product like this and the truth is no amount of pre orders could change their production quota which is likely why they didn't take pre orders in the first place. There is only so much insight you can gain on a product you cannot or have not revealed or released yet.

I don't think it's really fair to just shift the whole blame onto Nintendo when it comes to stock issues considering there are so many variables to consider with supply and gauging demand is much harder than it looks

@AcesHigh You hit the nail on the head. It's baffling how people rarely seem to consider market, business and economic factors when it comes to these sort of things. Besides Nintendo deciding how much to produce. It's the retailers who decide who much they want to order as well as how much shelf space they are willing to allocate to said products. People argue Nintendo should have known this would be a hot item but even if they did they can't simply churn out more units at the snap of a finger. Or maybe perhaps Nintendo did predict the demand but people are buying them up faster than Nintendo can put more out.

I find it baffling how people get so bent out of shape when they can't get ahold of something.

Really I don't think people realize how hard it is to properly gauge supply and demand. This was mainly a novelty product aimed at those who wanted to re experience the NES. I don't think Nintendo was expecting it to sell this fast. Its also down the the stores to decide how much they want to stock. From a business standpoint oversupply is worse in the long run because more money is lost from unsold stock.

If I get this I will make a Grand Dad skin

@RatKing64 You make a good point that Nintendo probably realized Wii U didn't really have a chance. Looking at Switch now Wii U feels more like a stop gap system that was really an early prototype for Switch's concept. In fact I would say Switch is what they likely intended Wii U to be but the tech wasn't really there at the time.

@ultraraichu Yeah the 3 branches do serve to keep the POTUS in check but I am not counting on it too much considering the Republicans now have complete control of the house.

@aaronsullivan From what I have read there will be new areas and bosses

Anyone notice the MyNintendo code that comes with it?

@sdelfin You can also say the same for a lot of the free emulators out there. Many of which are often unstable and suffer from bugs and other issues. Game with carts that used specialized enhancement chips are notorious for being difficult to emulate properly which was likely why the VC version of Yoshi's Island was the GBA version rather than the SNES original.

If you want a real example of a lousy emulator look at the Genesis clone consoles. The sound quality is out of wack, the controls are extremely off, and you can't even save your progress. The sound quality isn't too surprising since from what I have read the Genesis's sound chip is known for being difficult to emulate or replicate properly.

I have Sonic Mega Collection on Gamecube and the games run pretty solid on that one. From what I hear the games run on a custom emulator that was designed by Sonic Team themselves.

The NES Mini's emulator is a new one designed by Nintendo themselves and it may be one of the best emulators they have created and it wouldn't surprise me if the rumors are true they are using the Mini emulator for Switch's VC.

I don't think many understand that emulation is much more difficult and demanding than it looks.

There reasoning does make sense considering the discrepancy in Netcode between Wii U and 3DS which might also explain why Super Mario Maker on 3DS doesn't have the online features of the Wii U version.

It's also understandeable they have no way of telling who exactly owns a New 3DS and how close they are to each other. I find local multiplayer on handheld systems more of a hassle since each person not only needs their own system but usually their own copy of the game as well.

@Yorumi Well when you look at some of these comments it shouldn't be hard to see why some people might think that. There is nothing wrong with being critical. But if you are going to be critical to Nintendo you could express your points in a more calm rational manner. Simply screaming "My Nintendo sucks! or
"I want free stuff" or "Get rid of this program"! doesn't really do a good job of making Nintendo take you seriously. Yes criticism is important but attitude can make a big difference. It doesn't help your arguments much if you present in a way that doesn't make people want to listen.

@Yorumi How am I being condescending? I just don't think it's worth getting so worked up over a free rewards program

@Yorumi So you think I am fine with insults simply cause I don't necessarily agree with the majority opinion on this?

@Yorumi Did I really hurt your feelings? I don't insult people I just find it silly that people can't seem to discuss a free rewards program without throwing a massive hissy fit. No people like me and Lucina don't run around insulting people we just don't think it's worth getting so worked up over something as simple as a free service.

As Rect Pola pointed out MyNintendo is mainly aimed more at those on the outside than dedicated fans as a way to draw in new players and coax them toward buying Nintendo games which is also what the purpose of games like Miitomo and Super Mario Run serve.

In regards to discounts there are two factors to consider. One is that newer games need to wait some time before the are eligible for a price cut and the other is that Nintendo games are known to degrade in value much slower compared to most other games. If they offered VC games people would likely just complain they already have those too.

@Darknyht The problem is that MyNintendo was likely designed with Nintendo's future platforms and services in mind. That most likely means Switch in addition to mobile games. I do recall hearing a rumor a while back ago that Switch will offer an achievements like system where you can get coins for accomplishing in games tasks. Yes the majoirty of discounts are games that people already own but honestly what else can Nintendo offer at this point considering Wii U is pretty much dead and 3DS is likely on it's last legs.

@Yorumi Okay first off I wasn't exactly insulting people, I was mainly pointing how how ridiculous it is that these comments sections everytime articles like this come around are always the same old song and dance. There is a clear difference between constructive criticism and throwing a massive tantrum like a spoiled man child and the majority of these comments are not what I would call constructive at all

Yes MyNintendo does feel kinda lame at this moment but I am not complaining cause I knew it would probably be like this for a time considering Wii U is pretty much dead and 3DS will soon be on it's way out.

Also in post 114 I was not actually insulting anyone. I was just expressing my disgust at the rampant sense of self entitlement I am seeing.

@Yorumi When was I wasn't insulting people exactly?

@Yorumi Again one is a digital distribution platform the other is a free rewards program big difference

@Mario_Fart Except it likely was intended more with Switch in mind

@YouSeemFRAZZLED Nice to see someone with some common sense for once. I mean it's a free rewards program hardly worth getting so worked up over if you ask me.

Take a good look at a blank sheet of paper. That's basically a good list of what Nintendo owes you.