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@FuzzyYellowBalls Maybe I feel entitled to this knowledge because I've put £300 towards it?
As for digging a deeper hole, honey I could dig to Australia and back again and it wouldn't change what Im saying 😂

@Kalmaro Mill and Bentham were the greatest ethical writers of their time, and I wouldn't say the nature of humanity has changed much in 400 years. But yes I am very much a situational ethicist. So yes if it would somehow help enough people I could even justify putting a newborn baby in a blender.
It seems that we disagree on ethics at a fundamental level so I can't see this going much further.
have a nice day tho

@Kalmaro "If the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Mill, Bentham and Spock.
I feel in this case stealing from a giant corporation is justified by the knowledge gained to the consumer.

@TbobB ahh now that is where we fundamentally disagree, and I would say the same about your moral compass.

@ThatNyteDaez But alas somebody has to make that £300 plunge to find out, especially if Nintendo aren't showing it off. If everybody was going to hold back and wait then nobody would be buying a Switch at all.

@shaneoh Im not saying that the entire blame of the theft falls on Nintendo, amd I feel that comparing it to a murder really is a false equivalence. What Im saying is that Nintendo, given the fact they are not being forward with Switch information, should have expected someone to steal a Switch to release the information to people.
I also believe that Nintendo deserved this to happen to them. They are currently selling a product which we know very little about and the public deserve to know about some very key aspects of what they are buying. If this means a console had to be stolen for the information to come to light, well Im certainly not crying tears for Nintendo. The end justified the means.

@Finntendo No I think stealing and leaking this information out is justified because myself and around 2 million other people are spending £300 for a system that we still dont know everything about.
I put down the money in January having faith that Nintendo would release more information. Nintendo has failed to do such a thing and so I have no qualms about somebody taking it into their own hands to provide us with such information.

@shaneoh umm yeah. They have a sought after product that they are telling is very little about. Of course somebody was going to steal it and leak the info at some point.
If Nintendo weren't expecting this then they'd be very incompetent.

Tbh I really don't care how it was obtained. If Nintendo was unwilling to show us key aspects of the console before launch they should have expected (and possibly, deserved) this to happen to them.

Watching this emerge live on GAF reminds me why I love the gaming community! The collective hype over a fairly mundane (although important) feature brings me so much excitement and it warms my heart that we're all experiencing this whirlwind of feelings at the same time. Jeez I love videogames!

@impurekind if you're talking about the Audi ad, i liked it and personally think we need more messages like them to be publicly broadcast, especially in the current climate.

Anyhoo as for Nintendo I think they hit the nail on the head with this advert. Clear messaging and a wide audience is miles ahead of anything they did with the WiiU. And even if it doesn't translate to loads more sales day 1 at least people will have heard of the system!

Never have I been so embarrassed to be a Nintendo fan than reading this comment section. I can't believe the whining that one of the most creative minds in the industry isn't developing for your preferred plastic box.
Jeez people calm it down.

@dkxcalibur lol calm down.

@dkxcalibur I think it's clear at this point that if you want the latest and greatest third-party content that appears on PS4 and Xbox One the Switch will not be for you. I think it's also clear by this point that the Switch will not be 'another Wii U' in terms of games release schedule.
The complainers are moaning that the games are not games that they want to play, and I can understand that. Sure you're not too fussed that Rayman Legends is rereleasing or maybe RIVE isn't your cup of tea. But does that detract from any of the other great games coming out on the platform?
My point is that more games are never a bad thing, it means more choice, and (perhaps more importantly) more to play between big AAA releases.

Perfect price for whats on offer imo, I'll still be interested to see what the "discounts" for member look like though

Keep it coming!! The complainers above will probably never be happy but I for one think that more games added to a gaming system is a good thing!

Oh boy am I excited for this new game! Dig and Heist are two of my favourite games so the had my attention when they said the next title was coming to Switch, whatever it is I can't wait!

Im sure I'll enjoy this mode... when it comes to Android!!!

Got my Special Edition Zelda from Argos so it looks like I'm getting art cards! Tbh is any of this stuff really going to sway anyone into shopping else where? I went with Argos because it was the cheapest, I'm not going to pay £15 more just for a tshirt.

Nothing that releases on Steam surprises me at this point. The store is a cespit for untalented devs to try and make a quick bit of cash. As for 1 2 Swift? I hope the people who already own a £800 Vive will enjoy it 😂😂😂

Tbh this really isn't surprising considering the few AAA titles Nintendo has released over the last year. The WiiU recieved no AAA titles whatsoever (StarFox and Paper Mario are B tier titles at best) so its no shock that it sold so few consoles.
The 3DS is where Nintendo put their effort and it seems to have paid off sales wise (although i wonder how this will impact the Switch)
As for amiibo is it any wonder that the sales aren't through the roof when both the figures and their uses in game have been so mediocre.
Im more than sure that the Switch will turn the financial year around for them though, and next years sales should be much more impressive.

Thank goodness, I can only mirror other commenters relief that this won't be as bad as the NES mini situation!
Nintendo needs to learn that actually having stock to sell will result in higher sales!!

Can't say I've heard of any of these games before, but I'm not gonna turn any down. More games is nothing but a positive!
Out of all of them Tank It! interests me most if only to see how the devs message about the futility of war comes accross to the player.

@Marshi haha nah only getting the console from GAME, got my Zelda and 1 2 Switch preorders at amazon. The console costs about the same everywhere and hopefully GAME are doing a midnight launch

Just Zelda and 1 2 Switch for me. Maybe a carrying case/ screen protector if GAME are selling one at the time, if not I'll wait until next payday to buy accessories.

The more I see of this game the more excited I feel. I know it will be a microtransaction hellscape but I think having a team of your favourite heroes will be the motivation fans will need to keep playing.
Personally I hope Sacred Stones gets decent representation, so many good characters in that game!

Urgh This is really annoying, especially has a handheld device. I know Nintendo will charge a fortune for this service and although I could probably replace it myself I'd be too scared to mess up the innards of the machine.
Ah well heres to another 5 years of worrying about overcharging

Praying for a UK price drop before launch.
It would be nice not to have the price drop by £50 six months later (looking at you 3DS and WiiU)

I really think this console will need a 3DS-esque price drop for it to appeal to the mainstream market especially here in the UK.

Looking good! Hopefully we'll get a lot of new looking stages like this one. The one they showed off in the trailer looked a lot like Urchin Underpass but this stage is definitely a step in the right direction!

They did an excellent job with Twilight Princess HD so I trust them to do RiME justice, with any luck it will launch alongside the other console versions as playing it on the go could be a big selling point!
Also I wonder if Nintendo have trusted any other games for Tantalus to work on, I wouldn't mind a HD Skyward Sword on the Switch 😉

Thank goodness its been fixed! I seriously couldn't believe how cheap Nintendo at first.
I do wonder if this actually was a mistake though or they were just quick responding to the backlash online?

@DonkeyKongBigBoy "I think it will be amazing"
Of course you do. 😐

@DonkeyKongBigBoy Yeah we can't make a full judgement until Nintendo announce all the details. And whilst its not entirely true that we don't know anything I expect (or should I say desperately hope) there's something more Nintendo is keeping hush about to make this service worth the money and on par with its competitors.
Perhaps this all this speculation is pointless with the few details we've been given but healthy debate isnt an inherently bad thing 😛

@TheLZdragon I'd argue that even with a price known we can still compare the services and see that Nintendo is offering less.
Of course this lesser offering would be far more justified at a lower price but it would be a sub par offering nonetheless.

@DonkeyKongBigBoy Just to play the role of devils advocate (I am very much on side of "lets wait and see" personally). But from what Nintendo has announced so far their service will be a worse paid service than either Xbox Live or PS Plus.
The main reason for this claim has to do with the "free" software made available each month, which Nintendo have made clear will only be free for a single month. Also noted that it will be a NES or SNES title which have a value of £3-£5 (noted online will be added which will increase value). However this is a far cry from the service offered by Sony that this month offered £62 worth of free indie titles.
Next point is the much debated smart phone app. At this point it seems unclear (at least to my knowledge) whether the app will be compulsory for online interactions, but if this is the case again it would make it a lesser service to that of Sony or Xbox simply for the need of another peripheral.
Lastly the value of an online service hinges on how many games will be using it and to what extent each game uses it. To this end Nintendo will once again be playing catch up to PS and Xbox just because this is a new system with fewer games on it and fewer still that will use the online service to its full potential.

Once again I'll just say that we really should wait and see for what the full service will be. But from the details released so far Nintendos online service doesn't sound like it will even be on par with what is offered by their competitors.

@firstnesfan have you been living under a rock for the past year? R/B/Y are all on the Virtual Console

@ThomasBW84 And hopefully they'll have at least a few VC titles ready to go on Day 1. Just need to wait for the announcement

This is great! I've wanted to play World of Goo for ages but never got around to it! Also I somehow managed to put about 50 hours into burning stuff in Little Inferno!
Also nice to know that the eShop will have stuff day 1

Jeez What gets me is how fast it is! Serious applause to anyone who can manage this speed in any fighting game

I'm so glad that Brexit means Brexit 🙃🙃🙃

@dazzleshell Graphics wise, Zelda is almost the same between Switch and WiiU. However the whole game does run smother. On the Switch version the draw distance is much better and I believe it will be running at 60fps instead of 30(?) on the WiiU.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I doubt they'll do special editions on the WiiU, as sad as it is to people who'll still chose to play on the WiiU it looks like the Switch is the definitive version.

@Setery10 remind me how Skyward Sword's HUD worked again?

Jeez that looks so beautiful, I really hope BotW has the option to disabe the HUD, because damn I just wanna go around and photograph the land of Hyrule!

Woop woop, entered and crossing all my fingers! This is only increasing my hype for the console 😃

@gcunit I don't think thatthis shows multiplats will cost more on the Switch, just that it will need more development time and time = extra costs

Ahhh glorious 4am, I suppose it is our turn to get up early for once. Ive actually been surprise at how reasonably timed the last few announcements have been for the UK and Europe

You know what, I'm actually kinda glad they've done this, the devs don't deserve to waste their time on a system that only 5 people will still have plugged in by the time the Switch releases.
I do feel sorry for those people who were looking forward to this on WiiU but 99% will probably be gettig the Switch or have another platform to play it on.
As for the 'technical difficulties' line, it could have some merit, we've known for ages that the WiiU isn't the easiest console to develop for/ port to.

@Mega_Yarn_Poochy what did the host lie about exactly?? I don't remember that at all