@Farts_Ahoy Oh yes... I spent most of my time in GTA 5 Online racing others, nothing like the feeling of "riding your car on the edge" while taking tight corners. Impossible without granular analogue control on the gas and brakes.
@Shepdawg1 Forza series is rumored to come to Switch, unplayable without a proper analogue input. I mean come on it's industry standard.
Imagine this whole thing from the perspective of "having a mushy d-pad". Oh I don't care because I prefer analogue stick anyways. Yeah well, but having a decent d-pad makes the retro and platformer crowd happy, without taking away anything from anyone.
Same thing with good analogue triggers.
I hope that at least analogue INPUT from the triggers is recognized and supported by Nintendo when using a SN30 Pro2 for example by 8bitdo.
Seriously. This is a major blunder. Even First Person Shooters are more immersive when you need to actually "pull the trigger". Okay then do away with gyroscope and rumble too, because hey it's niche anyways and more direct if you just press the D-pad.
@vanYth 100% this and I don't really get why there is an argument about it. It's 2025 and the only way to play racing games somewhat well without an expensive wheel setup is having analogue triggers.
WT* Nintendo!
"You lose a little bit of instancy."
YES that's what they are supposed to do. GRADUAL control.
You want instancy, use the shoulder BUTTONS instead of the TRIGGERS.
Ugh. Hate it already. Also don't forget, we're not talking 2-3 GB day one patches here. We're talking 20+ GB games to download here. So you get the game and depending on your internet connection you might be playing it the next day at the earliest.
honestly, in this economy, this is a joke. All prices. Paying for "Switch 2 Edition" game upgrade, ridiculous pro controller without analogue triggers, digital prices insane...
Sorry. I really want to love this. But somehow I cant.
I love myself some stupid Warriors action. I enjoyed the first Hyrule Warriors game, but I have no clue about the actual mainline games which is good. Any recommendations?
PS: Yeah I played Strikers and didn't like it and skipped the fire emblem game because even the mainline games after the GBA ones didn't do it for me for some reason.
@dew12333 huh that’s an odd take! Any game that leans more towards a sim racer is almost unplayable with digital triggers only. Sim racing tries to simulate the real driving experience and nuanced gas input is key to car control. Imagine in real life your gas pedal can only do „none“ and „full throttle“. 😅
It’s perfectly fine to prefer digital triggers though, but for the full „true“ racing experience you need analogue input. Your bad experience with them may come from a lack of experience, it takes a lot of muscle memory and fine motor skills to really make the best from analogue triggers!
I’m pretty sure regardless if there are analogue triggers for switch 2 most games will be playable with digital triggers too from a technical standpoint. you’ll just never be near competitive - if you care for that!
Playing a racing game with digital triggers to me is like playing Doom with a steering wheel. It’s possible but clunky and stupid! 😂
You should really mention that this is new tech and supposedly will have transfer rates of about 900 MB/s. Which puts it beyond SATA 6 SSD speeds, which is very nice. That's the reason for the price.
(probably someone mentioned this already in the comments, sorry didn't read them all)
I guess we will get lots of remasters, re-releases from other multiplatform games and I am perfectly happy with it. I just hope this time the joycons have analogue triggers or at least that the Switch 2 supports analogue triggers for example on a new PRO controller. I really need some serious racing fix besides kart racers, as much as I love Mario Kart...
Love what I see here, but the Mario Kart screenshots make something obvious to me, the bezels feel odd. Like someone forgot to "zoom the actual display" all the way outwards to hit the physical edges of the screen. It looks odd.
Other than that I just hope those triggers are ANALOGUE for proper racing game support!
1) Are those Triggers analogue finally? 2) If the Joycons are "mice", does the system properly support actual mice and will we get strategy games and MMORPGs like on PC or just gimicky stuff?
@nocdaes I'm in the "I'm happy with Switch as is, but the games will run a tad better with Switch 2"-camp. And that is fine with me. I'm not into triple A gaming anymore since it's shyte anyways most of the time. I actually enjoy remakes and retro or neo-retro games and the occassional first party Nintendo title. Switch 2 won't change that, just smoothen the experience a bit.
This never worked for me. Always says I need to log into an account with significant (enough) hours played. Which... I do. It just never shows anything. Spent countless hours playing this year so what gives?
I don't believe one second that Nintendo is that tone deaf, it surely is an intentional marketing ploy to drum up attention. I mean how many headlining articles has Nintendolife had about this Playtest that in all fairness to normies is of absolutely no interest? See. Works.
@Yosher I'm with you on that, I feel though that if a new F-Zero can be successful they will HAVE to drop this one to not cannibalize their own audience. But at this point, besides graphics (and I don't mind the retro aesthetics one bit) I can hardly imagine what a proper new F-Zero must be like to justify the abandonment of 99.
Maybe this is it, the whole F-Zero resurrection IS 99.
Obviously Gamecube would be very welcome. No idea how Wiigames would translate to it all, maybe with a separately available Wii Remote and Sensorbar? And yeah, MORE SEGA STUFF please!
I'm perfectly fine with Mega Drive, but would gladly take Dreamcast/Saturn too!
With the constant craze about retro gaming and the constant failures of modern gaming, I really wonder if it's about time someone (Nintendo?) does something proper about being able to play and own (who am I kidding) retro games again. I was wondering if that "NSO test thingy" you could sign up for is about a new, better way to dabble into the back catalogues of gaming companies. I'd love to enjoy old games in a somewhat palpable way.
Last time on the loo I imagined this: You go to a website, pick 25 games from a list and have them shipped to you on a physical Switch 2 cart, with cover and all. Basically your custom, totally legal because paid for, retro game compilation with no duds and just what you like.
Retro á la cart.
I'd be all over this.
Then sell us filters and enhancements on the Switch 2 system for 1 dollar each and you even got your micro transactions crap in.
@steely_pete Yes, I get you. But also, this is EXACTLY what Nintendo likely botches. Remember the Zelda anniversary as a great opportunity for something? Yeah, me neither.
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Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
@Farts_Ahoy Oh yes... I spent most of my time in GTA 5 Online racing others, nothing like the feeling of "riding your car on the edge" while taking tight corners. Impossible without granular analogue control on the gas and brakes.
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
@Shepdawg1 Forza series is rumored to come to Switch, unplayable without a proper analogue input. I mean come on it's industry standard.
Imagine this whole thing from the perspective of "having a mushy d-pad". Oh I don't care because I prefer analogue stick anyways. Yeah well, but having a decent d-pad makes the retro and platformer crowd happy, without taking away anything from anyone.
Same thing with good analogue triggers.
I hope that at least analogue INPUT from the triggers is recognized and supported by Nintendo when using a SN30 Pro2 for example by 8bitdo.
Seriously. This is a major blunder. Even First Person Shooters are more immersive when you need to actually "pull the trigger".
Okay then do away with gyroscope and rumble too, because hey it's niche anyways and more direct if you just press the D-pad.
Nintendo...
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
@vanYth 100% this and I don't really get why there is an argument about it. It's 2025 and the only way to play racing games somewhat well without an expensive wheel setup is having analogue triggers.
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
@Ham-n-jam You already got shoulder BUTTONS (R1 and L1) why need a second set?
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
WT* Nintendo!
"You lose a little bit of instancy."
YES that's what they are supposed to do. GRADUAL control.
You want instancy, use the shoulder BUTTONS instead of the TRIGGERS.
Beyond tonedeaf.
Re: Three Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
Love it. More excited for this than for the whole NS2 debacle, lol.
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
Thats a very naive perspective. Of course they will nickel and dime us down the road. Because why wouldn't they?
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
Ugh. Hate it already. Also don't forget, we're not talking 2-3 GB day one patches here. We're talking 20+ GB games to download here. So you get the game and depending on your internet connection you might be playing it the next day at the earliest.
Re: Opinion: Oh No, I'm Not A Fan Of Switch 2's Mouse Mode At All
Don't care. More options though. I wonder if the Switch 2 will work with a "real" mouse.
Re: Nintendo Expects You To Pay For Its Switch 2 "Welcome Tour" User Guide
lol
yeah
no
pff
Re: Switch 2 Games Cost A Bit More Than You're Probably Expecting
honestly, in this economy, this is a joke. All prices. Paying for "Switch 2 Edition" game upgrade, ridiculous pro controller without analogue triggers, digital prices insane...
Sorry. I really want to love this.
But somehow I cant.
Re: The Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - All New Features Revealed
WTF?
AGAIN no analogue triggers?
Oh boy...
Re: Switch 2 Predicted To Cost "$400 Or More"
@Jiggies Inflation, energy cost, profit and greed have entered the chat.
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
Hot garbage. Nothing to see here.
Re: Monster Hunter: Wilds Tech Analysis Has Us Concerned About A Switch 2 Port
Tbh I'd be perfectly happy with a Rise 2 for Switch. Loved the Wirebugstuff after I finally got used to it.
Re: 2v2 Fighter Diesel Legacy: The Brazen Age Now Has A Switch eShop Demo
Unfortunately I simply can't "dig" the graphics style.
Re: Review: WARRIORS: Abyss (Switch) - Middling Musou With A Dash Of Diablo & Hades
I love myself some stupid Warriors action. I enjoyed the first Hyrule Warriors game, but I have no clue about the actual mainline games which is good. Any recommendations?
PS: Yeah I played Strikers and didn't like it and skipped the fire emblem game because even the mainline games after the GBA ones didn't do it for me for some reason.
Re: Shinobi: Art Of Vengeance Brings 2D Ninja Action To Nintendo Switch This August
Great to see Shinobi back, gameplay looks crisp, personally I could do without the hand drawn style though.
Re: Rumour: Another Xbox Game Could Be Racing Onto Switch 2, It's Claimed
@dew12333 I'm pretty sure the joycons dont have them, possibly pro controller will. So we both get our way, hopefully!
Re: Rumour: Another Xbox Game Could Be Racing Onto Switch 2, It's Claimed
@dew12333 huh that’s an odd take! Any game that leans more towards a sim racer is almost unplayable with digital triggers only. Sim racing tries to simulate the real driving experience and nuanced gas input is key to car control. Imagine in real life your gas pedal can only do „none“ and „full throttle“. 😅
It’s perfectly fine to prefer digital triggers though, but for the full „true“ racing experience you need analogue input. Your bad experience with them may come from a lack of experience, it takes a lot of muscle memory and fine motor skills to really make the best from analogue triggers!
I’m pretty sure regardless if there are analogue triggers for switch 2 most games will be playable with digital triggers too from a technical standpoint. you’ll just never be near competitive - if you care for that!
Playing a racing game with digital triggers to me is like playing Doom with a steering wheel. It’s possible but clunky and stupid! 😂
Re: Rumour: Another Xbox Game Could Be Racing Onto Switch 2, It's Claimed
We NEED Analogue Triggers on the Switch 2. At least on the pro controller!
Re: Absurd Boomer Shooter 'Turbo Overkill' Shadow Drops On Switch
@Mando44646 So basically korean war shooters!
Re: Absurd Boomer Shooter 'Turbo Overkill' Shadow Drops On Switch
@JS_Comics It's the fact that you haven't heard it until now that's making you REALLY old gramps! Ahaha.
Don't worry, old toot here.
Re: No Man's Sky 'Worlds Part II' Update Adds New Solar Systems, Biomes, Terrains & More
This keeps on giving. I hope on Switch 2 this will run/look a tad bit better, might get back into it and waste another quadrillion hours in it!
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
You should really mention that this is new tech and supposedly will have transfer rates of about 900 MB/s. Which puts it beyond SATA 6 SSD speeds, which is very nice. That's the reason for the price.
(probably someone mentioned this already in the comments, sorry didn't read them all)
1 TB seem fine tbh, but that's just me.
Re: Sega Launches Its Own Free Account Service With Unique Member Rewards
I love (old) SEGA. But they are so prone to stupid business decisions and this, smells like dung again.
Re: Rumour: Diablo 4 Is Claimed To Be In Development For Switch 2
I guess we will get lots of remasters, re-releases from other multiplatform games and I am perfectly happy with it. I just hope this time the joycons have analogue triggers or at least that the Switch 2 supports analogue triggers for example on a new PRO controller. I really need some serious racing fix besides kart racers, as much as I love Mario Kart...
Re: New Mario Kart 9 Teased For Switch 2
Love what I see here, but the Mario Kart screenshots make something obvious to me, the bezels feel odd. Like someone forgot to "zoom the actual display" all the way outwards to hit the physical edges of the screen. It looks odd.
Other than that I just hope those triggers are ANALOGUE for proper racing game support!
Re: Switch 2: Hardware Gallery - Take A Closer Look At Nintendo's Lovely New Switch
I'm wondering two things:
1) Are those Triggers analogue finally?
2) If the Joycons are "mice", does the system properly support actual mice and will we get strategy games and MMORPGs like on PC or just gimicky stuff?
Re: Oops! EVO 2025's Lineup Has Accidentally Been Revealed
@Lizuka You beat me to it. Same thoughts.
Re: Digital Foundry Weighs In On 'Switch 2' Motherboard - Just How Powerful Is It?
I'm fine with PS4 power tbh.
Re: Tech Fans Have Gone Full 'Layton' In Analysing The 'Switch 2' Motherboard
@nocdaes I'm in the "I'm happy with Switch as is, but the games will run a tad better with Switch 2"-camp. And that is fine with me. I'm not into triple A gaming anymore since it's shyte anyways most of the time. I actually enjoy remakes and retro or neo-retro games and the occassional first party Nintendo title. Switch 2 won't change that, just smoothen the experience a bit.
Hope the eShop improves...
Re: Atlus Lead Explains Why Persona Protagonists Are High School Males
@DripDropCop146 Why would you PLAY through that if you LIVE it? lol.
Ah well. We're in the same boat anyways...
Re: Your 'Nintendo Switch Year In Review 2024' Stats Are Available Now
This never worked for me. Always says I need to log into an account with significant (enough) hours played. Which... I do. It just never shows anything. Spent countless hours playing this year so what gives?
Oh my.
Re: Delightful Shopkeeping RPG 'Moonlighter' Is Getting A Sequel, Switch Not Confirmed
@Divide_and_Wander Same here. Beat it. Loved every second of it. So charming.
Re: Video: Footage Of LEGO's "Unreleased" James Bond Video Game Surfaces Online
If Indiana Jones fits, Bond would too.
Re: Talking Point: What Is Nintendo Thinking Trying To Keep The Lid On This Playtest Program?
@MrGawain This 100%!
Re: Nintendo's Switch Online Playtest Is Already Being Streamed, Unsurprisingly
I don't believe one second that Nintendo is that tone deaf, it surely is an intentional marketing ploy to drum up attention. I mean how many headlining articles has Nintendolife had about this Playtest that in all fairness to normies is of absolutely no interest? See. Works.
Re: Nintendo's Mysterious Switch Online Playtest Program Is Now Accessible
Seeing this white on black grid all I can think of is "MEGA DRIVE"
Re: F-Zero 99 Updated To Version 1.5.1, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Yosher I'm with you on that, I feel though that if a new F-Zero can be successful they will HAVE to drop this one to not cannibalize their own audience. But at this point, besides graphics (and I don't mind the retro aesthetics one bit) I can hardly imagine what a proper new F-Zero must be like to justify the abandonment of 99.
Maybe this is it, the whole F-Zero resurrection IS 99.
Re: Switch Online's Expansion Pack Promises "Excitement" In 2025
Obviously Gamecube would be very welcome. No idea how Wiigames would translate to it all, maybe with a separately available Wii Remote and Sensorbar? And yeah, MORE SEGA STUFF please!
I'm perfectly fine with Mega Drive, but would gladly take Dreamcast/Saturn too!
Re: Nintendo Asks Switch Online Playtest Program Participants To "Not Discuss Or Disclose Content"
I fully expect this to be leaked immediately and that this is an actual marketing ploy.
Re: Rumour: Switch 2's Codename Believed To Be In Latest Pokémon Data Leak
"Get ready to ounce."
There you have it .
Had to.
Sorry.
I'll leave now.
Re: Rumour: Switch 2's Codename Believed To Be In Latest Pokémon Data Leak
Honestly, at this point, I don't care anymore.
It's revealed when it's revealed.
Re: Sandbox Dating Sim 'Date Everything' Has Been Delayed To Valentine's Day
Well I guess that's a fitting title in today's day and age. Looks fun though!
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library With Two More Titles
With the constant craze about retro gaming and the constant failures of modern gaming, I really wonder if it's about time someone (Nintendo?) does something proper about being able to play and own (who am I kidding) retro games again. I was wondering if that "NSO test thingy" you could sign up for is about a new, better way to dabble into the back catalogues of gaming companies. I'd love to enjoy old games in a somewhat palpable way.
Last time on the loo I imagined this:
You go to a website, pick 25 games from a list and have them shipped to you on a physical Switch 2 cart, with cover and all. Basically your custom, totally legal because paid for, retro game compilation with no duds and just what you like.
Retro á la cart.
I'd be all over this.
Then sell us filters and enhancements on the Switch 2 system for 1 dollar each and you even got your micro transactions crap in.
One can dream.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library With Two More Titles
@steely_pete Yes, I get you. But also, this is EXACTLY what Nintendo likely botches. Remember the Zelda anniversary as a great opportunity for something? Yeah, me neither.
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of The Nintendo Sound Clock 'Alarmo' Are In
Well different stuff for different tastes, right. Personally I feel this is hot, intrusive garbage.
Re: Forget 'Switch 2', Nintendo Has Just Revealed An Official Alarm Clock
Okay, that's nice and all.
But if I get woken up in this way, I have it exactly one day and one night before it's flying against the wall. Ugh.
Inksplats.
Exactly what I want to be awoken by!
Re: Diesel Legacy: The Brazen Age Brings 2v2 Fights To Switch This December
I am really not sure if I LOVE or HATE the art style. Hmmmm.