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@-wc- Agreed, everyones entitled to their opinion and voicing their dissatisfaction, as is everyone else to ignore them.

What became of "taste" and "in the eye of the beholder" these days?

@AlonditeFE Whats the benefits Switch 1 games already enjoy across the board of being played on Switch 2?

To me this looks like a messy situation. Some games look and play the same as Switch 1, some have free updates and some have paid updates, or am I missing something?

What I meant was kinda like on PC. Same architecture but your PC from today is more powerful than your 7 year old PC.

You might be able to bump up the resolution, antialising and such.

Jailbroken Switch 1 consoles can already unlock frame limits and have a mild overclock, even in such a janky setting many Switch 1 games see improvements ON the same hardware. So I was of the impression that if the Switch 2 is leagues more powerful than Switch 1 and the actual makers of the hardware/games could just "unlock" higher framerates and resolutions across the board.

After all, in this day and age, especially multiplatform games are built "scalable" anyways, no?

@Blast16 SEEEGAAA!! to you two brother!

We'll be reaching a point soon where AI stops imitating human artists and human artists will start imitating AI. Regardless of the level of slop. This age will become known as the age of "slopception"...

Ugh, while generally everything is welcome, this again is like a half-assed Nintendo-solution. Basic "upscaling" or rendering in higher resolution/framerates should be standard for ALL Switch 1 games really, with noticable "handcrafted" improvements as per a studio-by-studio basis.

But yeah. "Something" is good enough these days. And I DO appreciate it for all Switch 2 owners!

Didnt see it in motion, but those screenshots look like OG XBOX style graphics.

@Erigen Nothing wrong about outgrowing a genre, or taking a break. I was off FPS games for a long time. Got back into SHMUPs and beatemups with my generally rising interest in retrogames. "Being cheap" is no reason to play something you might not enjoy.

Where I live there's a proverb: "Even free is still too expensive." for exactly things like that!
Enjoy whatever floats your boat mate!

@Erigen This plays quite differently to your common beatem'up though. Very much like "Streets of Red" with solid Combo and interesting finishers. If you get it on sale, I bet you'd like it!

@koopababble it probably is lol 😂

Sorry can't get excited for this. Smells like greed. Tastes like greed. Is greed.

@Novuscourvous I don't believe that. All names in Prime 4 are intentional (and sometimes really bland in being so), also Prime 4 kinda has a cliffhanger ending. I feel like we're not done yet with the Galactic Federation folks!

@datamonkey rumor has it that 5 was at least already started alongside 4. If you observe carefully Prime 4 has enough "cliffhanger vibes" that would warrant a sequel picking up where 4 left off.

Also, the final destination in the game is literally the CHRONO TOWER, but there is no time travel element in Prime 4.

After having played Prime 4, enjoyed it tremendously, then gotten and beaten Prime 1 Remeastered, Dread, Zero Mission and soon-to-be-beaten Super Metroid I am wholeheartedly picking up any new Metroid game.

I do get the frustration of hardcore fans, but I also think there's enough to enjoy in Prime 4 to make it stand out against all the slop that we're getting served, even if you are a die-hard holdout for the classic formula.

@Dman10 I'm with you man, once you're past 40, you have no time to waste anymore!

Yeah good luck with that.
I'll rather cut back on luxury items than gras fed protein!

@Hawkes142 thank you! I fully agree! Underrated!

Also I can enjoy the more hardcore OG titles and the more welcoming yet still gorgeously adventurous prime 4 all the same!

The hatred, clickbait and rage about Metroid Prime 4 on youtube was something else.

Got it on Switch 1. Played through it 3 times. Joke's on you haters.

Also made me get into Metroid for the first time real seriously.

Played through Prime 1 Remastered afterwards, Dread too and Zero Mission. Now going go play through Super Metroid.

New customer unlocked.

Hm. I love Sonic Racing Crossworlds and the over-the-top action and unfamiliar characters are a nice change of pace after playing literally DECADES of (mostly the same) Mario Kart games.

Am I biased?
Maybe. But SRCW is really a blast once you get into unlocking and special event racing. Love it.

Am I the only one who thinks this is underperforming?

@electrolite77 exactly! 100%!
Wished it would have performed better…

Finally an article adressing this. Thank you.

BUT... will third party controllers with analogue triggers work the same way, or just the official gamecube controller?!

To be honest, this is simple economics. If you're outpricing the majority of your customers, you go down. Easy as that.

Yes, I know, large companies need to make profit, blah.

Okay, but sometimes it could be a good business decision to EAT the tariffs, EAT the memory cost and make a loss in a year or two and come out the other end still having customers, no?

To be honest, the financial crunch is real and if I have to decide between eating healthy protein rich meals or making Mario jump by pressing a button, I am sorry for that fat plumber, but I'll have my steak.

@KoopaTheGamer That's all well and good but a modern "PRO" controller should be the "it does it all quite well" solution, fitting for most players and gamers. But if Nintendo want's to be arse about it, then they should drop the price of the ridiculously overpriced "PRO" controller at least 20 bucks and release a separate "racing" controller for the same price so only racing game fans can purchase it.

OH wait, seems like the Switch consoles don't really register an analogue input on a system level, except from the official Gamecube controller.

Also racing game fans are a passionate crowd, just assuming "they are all on PC building their racing rig anyways" is a bad business decision. Especially in this economy, if the Switch is already your family console, why not capitalize on a few extra "dad-sales" playing their racing games when the kids are in bad?

And no, Mario Kart is NO racing game in that sense.

@themightyant I wholeheartedly agree, that was my takeaway as well.

@The_Nintendo_Expat Funnily enough I played Prime 1 back in the day on the gamecube but couldn't get into it because of the controls, to me the modern controls unlocked a wonderful game that still had plenty of puzzling and generally felt like "space Lara croft" to me. Prime 4 even more so. I dig sci fi I general, the metaphysical, lost civilizations and so on, so I really enjoyed the "discover the story on your own" approach in Prime 4.

After Prime 4 I beat Prime 1, which I found very underwhelming (only the ending, the leading up to it was grand) and also got intro Dread, which once you stop being scared of the EMMIs, opens up and is a lot of fun. Also started ZERO MISSION on GBA.

I do love Metroid, in all its variants so far.

@The_Nintendo_Expat Thank you, same here. I also am totally fine disagreeing on things, we all have different perspectives. I just feel like if people see rage baiting YouTube videos about Metroid Prime 4, like it's the failed second coming of christ, and then skip it and go play Fortnite or some other slop, they are robbing themselves of a great experience.

If Metroid Prime 4 is only 70% of the OG Prime formula, it's still a grand game imho.

@Ladasta To be fair, I read up on all the lore of Metroid as I found myself being a fan of Prime 4 and the storyline of all Metroid games was no grandiose writing to begin with.

That said, I found plenty of story through environmental storytelling, things to scan and to discover. I enjoyed exploring, like Space Lara Croft, and figuring out what happened to the being and once great civilization of the Lamorn.

The ending was ambiguous, I'll give you that. But there was plenty of story, just not told through a narrator.

Also, did anyone ever notice that the thing in the middle is called the CHRONO tower? So expect time traveling shenanigans and rescuing your galactic federation buddies in the next game.

Can't wait. I like it.

I never got into Metroid. Metroid is a niche franchise as is. I feel like Dread was catered to the OG fans and Nintendo tested the waters with it. Sales were OK, not grand, despite massive marketing. So now comes Prime 4 along, which is much more approachable. I didn't listen to the negative nancies online and bought it.

On Switch 1 mind you, still it was absolutely captivating, a grand experience and it made me into a Metroid fan. Since then I purchased Dread and Prime 1 Remastered. Beat both.

I see where OG fans are coming from. But first 2D Metroids are different to the 3D ones and secondly, yes Prime 4 has handholding which should be optional and yes the maps are much more linear...

BUT, it is a grand game and I prefer it to all others, while I am still able to acknowledge the grandeur and fascination of the old school ones.

I didn't mind blasting through the desert, which isn't THAT empty at all with tings to discover, and I collected the green crystals along the way, no big deal. Also there are large deposits which will fill your collect-meter rather rapidly.

I don't want to defend Nintendo, because I am no fan of their Switch 2 era so far, game prices, game key cards, general greed and all. BUT... Metroid Prime 4 is a GREAT game and as I see it we have a choice:

Stick to the OG formula and get a game every decade or even longer to lukewarm sales, or adjust the formula slightly, more people will enter the fandom, sales increase and we get more of Metroid.

Criticizing Metroid Prime 4 for not being Zero Mission or Prime 1 is a bit like complaining Super Mario Wonder is not Super Mario Bros 3 imho.

Things evolve. Metroid Prime 1 was so far ahead of it's time, even if Prime 4 does not live up to expectations a 100%, it's still better than 90% of other games on Switch/Switch 2.

9/10 from me.

A good script is all that matters. Amazon has no good track record as of late.

@Luigia Please keep us updated. I really want to know.

@KoopaTheGamer That's what the shoulder BUTTONS are for. Having a double set of BUTTONS on a modern controller and no analogue triggers at all makes NO sense.

@massimax preach brother, I will not stop being butthurt about this

@Dr_Lugae Ok Roblox is disgusting af

So... censorship and control then?

Loved MP4, nothing wrong with it. Made me get Prime 1 Remastered AND Dread. Played through both. Loved all of it.
More please!

ridiculous
Nintendo has entered late SEGA's levels of delusion.

Good luck with that.

Loved MP4, made me a Metroid Fan.
Played through MP Remastered afterwards. Now on Zero Mission and Dread.

Didn't mind the SLIGHT casualization one bit. Also liked Viola, didn't miss any music in the desert and if you pay attention grabbing enough green crystals is neither tiresome nor difficult.

9/10

Gonna see that Sonic Racing Crossworld and Metroid Prime 4 stats. Both on Switch 1. Because hell yeah, that's how I roll!

@The_Nintendo_Expat I agree! Not even thinking about Switch 2 before "reasonably priced OLED version" - which with current state of the industry and Nintendo themselves, will be a while...

N'ah Switch 1 is still an awesome system. Prime 4 looks and runs great too. No need to upgrade to Switch 2, prices and games so far not worth it yet.

I'm so done with that crap. Imagine my amazement playing old XBOX and PS2 games, straight from the disc and the games actually working and coming with all bells and whistles without having to buy DLC? Ha!

@Alex79uk yeah... 20 years ago. Also PS2 had ANALOGUE BUTTONS. Janky AF but hey...

@gcunit except that we have to relearn 20 years of muscle memory
BUT do games on Switch/Switch 2 ACTUALLY support this?

@Bootlicker333 I get it. I've opted out of "modern gaming" a few years ago. Enjoying proper retro titles, got to enjoy 30 years of videogames, I really don't need to wait for the new slop coming out, biting my nails. I did have Metroid on my radar though.

What I got and really enjoy is Sonic Racing Crossworlds though. It has all the crazy SEGA energy and feels more like a traditional game, not a storefront to sell you stuff. It's well balanced and feels like a real effort by the devs.

Other than that, the next modern thing I play is dreamcast/gamecube era and from there on, backwards.

@WaveBoy They may exaggerate for clicks, but they are not inherently wrong. MP4's development was a mess. Many course corrections, identity crisis and more. And it shows. Sadly.

@VoidofLight Exactly my thoughts too.

@Bootlicker333 You seem to get a lot of hate. Coming with criticism to a Nintendofansite that is expected. That said, I agree with you.

@Jintendo Yeah my thoughts exactly. Nintendo jumped onto the bandwagon of Ubisoft and Co. and "open world the sh*t out of everything".

It's no good fit for Metroid and it was no good fit for Mario Kart world.

Did you play Sonic Racing Crossworlds yet?
Oh boy. Love it.

And yes. I am biased.

Honestly, it left a bit of its identity on the table. When I play Mortal Kombat, I expect blood and gore. When playing Metroid I expect isolation, "dread" (pun intended) and exploration. It has a lot of handholding and chitchat by annoying NPCs. Also the NPCs look almost like "real humans" whereas Samus and Metroid in general always was more "stylized" leaning more into the comic/anime corner of things. Having both styles in one game irks me a bit.

Then. The desert. Empty. Barren. Boring. And the game forces you to traverse it all. the. time. It's to pad out gametime? And no music, but unlocking music with Amiibo or with full playthrough, at which point who cares for music anymore after spending hours in the desert in silence?

Hohum.

This is my honest opinion. Worth the wait? No.
Good game? Yes.
Core Metroid experiences? Hohum.

To be honest, it feels a bit too "modern western dumb audience" and "Halo" to me. Not terrible. But not what I came for.
7/10.