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@PhilKenSebben No, it just says Nintendo, copyright 2018. Then credits copyright as Nintendo and HAL Laboratory for working on the Wii U/3DS version.

I explained this along with why I believe this is an updated port and not a new Smash Bros. game.

This is at the end of the credits of the Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS reveal trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvudMu-5kIU

Now this is what's at the end of the Switch Smash Bros. trailer.

How I read this is that it's an updated port of the Wii U/3DS game. Nintendo and HAL Laboratory made the "original game". If you pay attention to gaming, you would have heard Sakurai recently talking about doing consultancy work, I think that's what he may be doing on this project and he was talking about Smash Bros. in this interview.

"…Well for me, every time I always think, “This might be the last one.” If it’s a request from a client then I’ll consider it, but I do wonder, “Is it alright if I’m not the director?” It might be good to take on more of a consulting role."

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/02/famitsu_interview_hints_that_masahiro_sakurai_could_step_back_from_directing_games

https://sourcegaming.info/2018/02/07/18755/

Nintendo wouldn't say at the end of the trailer in tiny writing that this is an "Original Game". If it was a new game, Nintendo would be all over telling people this fact.

Edit:

The same "Original Game" copyright was written about Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS. Scroll to the bottom.

http://www.smashbros.com/wiiu-3ds/us/

@Neon_Blues And nothing of value was lost.......by your comment.

Even the end of the 3DS lifecycle is running on ports.

@ottospooky I never said that.

I believe if a Switch version was in the works it would have been mentioned today. Activision might give us an older COD that the Switch can run and they'll call it some super duper Deluxe Elite Edition with all the DLC included for "free".

Of course there isn't. It's not an old port, Switch isn't allowed to have new games. Maybe when it's at least 6 months old, some studio will be hired to port it over.

I was waiting for a story on this game. I don't think I heard anyone talk about this after the Direct. Even this site took the next day to mention it, whereas every other Switch game got an article last night. It reeks of Japan and I'm not sure it'll do well in the West. I definitely have no interest in it.

@nmanifold What a brilliant solution. Spend hundreds of €'s more on another console because Nintendo sure as hell won't be fixing this problem.

Free.......lol

I won't be buying this game at launch, certainly not paying €60 for what will most likely be a short, easy game. And I'd wait for reviews before blindly saying I'm buy it.

@Saego I wasn't finished writing. Now what do you say?

This is at the end of the credits of the Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS reveal trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvudMu-5kIU

Now this is what's at the end of the Switch Smash Bros. trailer.

How I possibly read this is that it's an updated port of the Wii U/3DS game. Nintendo and HAL Laboratory made the original game but only Nintendo and not HAL Laboratory are working on this upgraded port. If you pay attention to gaming, you would have heard Sakurai recently talking about doing consultancy work, I think that's what he may be doing on this project and he was talking about Smash Bros. in this interview.

"…Well for me, every time I always think, “This might be the last one.” If it’s a request from a client then I’ll consider it, but I do wonder, “Is it alright if I’m not the director?” It might be good to take on more of a consulting role."

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/02/famitsu_interview_hints_that_masahiro_sakurai_could_step_back_from_directing_games

https://sourcegaming.info/2018/02/07/18755/

Nintendo wouldn't say at the end of the trailer in tiny writing that this is an "original game".

@link12684 There was no such phantom Tweet. Sakurai's not an idiot. Nintendo have been very deliberate and vague in any information they've put out about the game. No word of new, port or Deluxe version. Just simply Smash Bros. is coming to Switch.

Ya, I'd heard last night that Undertale was made using this engine.

@mikeatron85 Relax with the name calling please, he wasn't insulting to you. It's not a same day launch, the game will be 6 months old when it releases next month on Switch.

I hope they're at least including the first 2 DLC packs for free, considering we all know they're going to charge $60 for this despite it being late. You can now buy the game on other platforms for about half price.

@Robsnow Nowhere does he say it's a new title. The Japanese Smash Bros. Twitter account doesn't say it's new either.

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/971885028245307392

https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/971879880081137665

It's not clear what that copyright at the end means. I read it as Nintendo and HAL Laboratory own the copyrights to the original game. If it was a new game I'm sure Nintendo would want to make that abundantly clear. Maybe it is, we'll get the answer very shortly.

@BAN No of course they won't disappear but they are being belittled with these ports.

@KingdomHeartsFan So what has Nintendo released so far this year? And we're into March. Bayonetta/Bayonetta 2? Em, I own it already, what are people like me supposed to play? Or in the coming months? Kirby? Probably not. There's more Wii U ports coming in the shape of Hyrule Warriors and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze before E3. Plus more from others.

@Deva I've already mentioned elsewhere they own the copyright to the original Smash Bros. It's not saying that they're making this one.

@QwertyQwerty Well now, they were hardly going to call it Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Of course they have to change it and a few other tweaks. I already said that Link will get a new model to represent BOTW. He's hardly going to be Twilight Princess Link.

@joey302 The Beverly Hillbillies.

@QwertyQwerty You've got it wrong. It doesn't say it's being developed by HAL Laboratory, the original copyright to Smash Bros. is owned by them and Nintendo. There is nothing in that trailer to suggest it's new. I think some characters like Link will get a BOTW model, some added stages, maybe add in some new modes but underneath it all, it'll still be the Wii U/3DS version.

@maruse The price never converts like that from Yen. Trust me, it'll be €50 at least.

@QwertyQwerty So? Retro Studios aren't porting Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze to Switch and countless other examples. The original developer doesn't have to make the port.

The leaks of 22nd June as the release date were true. There was the Japan Rakuten leak today which was quickly pulled but Amazon Spain had previously revealed the date last month.

EXtreme!

@Spoony_Tech Smash Bros. is a Wii U port for sure, slightly enhanced with a few added characters, like the Inklings and a few new stages. It's just not possible for it to be new, sure look at MK8 from Wii U to Switch.

@Twonips They could have played the games on Wii U. Nothing stopped them.

I was thinking if they were perhaps digital only and straight ports onto the eShop, then maybe. You know the Wii U got that. Wii games, €20 a pop. But why charge €20 when you can charge €60 and do relatively little work and in some cases add nothing new, e.g. the Bayonetta games.

This looks very good, but you guessed it, it's a port.

Was there any new game announced for Switch in the Direct? Even just 1.

Another one of those surprises that was leaked, well it was certainly strongly rumoured. Just like a Luigi's Mansion, Smash Bros, South Park, Little Nightmares.

@Prof_Yoshtonics You can be sure it'll be $60.

Portaloo.

South Park: The Fractured Port Whole.

Wii U ports galore. The fact that this game has been chosen, to me says that they're going to port over so many more Wii U games in the future. CT: TT used the SM3DW engine and now it's using some of the assets from SMO.

The only real highlight for me of the Direct. And it's another Wii U port.

More like The Entrail I guess.

He knows something.

Quiet week. Quite weak. I suppose there's Scribblenauts Showdown which is the only real standout title for me this week, but apart from that, meh.

Edit: Then maybe Bleed 2 and Earthlock to a lesser degree. Speaking of Earthlock, why is it €25 on Switch when it released on the Wii U eShop not too long ago where it costs €10?

@rdrunner1178 Now Flashback is something I'd love to play again, or maybe it's the nostalgia talking.

What would you use a keyboard for? The web browser.......oh right.......

Quiet week. Quite weak.

Paid €1.50 for this on Wii U.

Another rererererererererelease for Switch has clambered out of the Abyss and has been unleashed upon the World.

Microsoft's loss is Nintendo's gain. There's studies and reports for everything like this one yesterday.

STUDY FINDS THAT NINTENDO GAMERS ARE LEAST WILLING TO PURCHASE DLC AND ADDITIONAL CONTENT

https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/what_do_you_think_the_nx_is_poll?start=26800#reply-26807

The report was for the UK and Nintendo tend not to do well there.

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Anyway, back to this report, I suggest people read it because the NL article leaves out a lot of interesting information. Like, they say that Nintendo's market share will surpass Microsoft in 2018.

Games Console Market Share in 2017:

Nintendo - 22%
Microsoft - 25%
Sony - Market leader, doesn't give a figure in the report, I'll try find it elsewhere. Edit: It's 53%, which makes sense but wanted to be sure.

And this worrying bit.

The increasing importance of subscriptions to gaming, and users downloading titles rather than purchasing physical copies, shows the shifting sands in the industry.

"We are now approaching a tipping point in consumer behavior, where the digital share of full game sales has started to accelerate away from the transitional norms," Piers Harding-Rolls, head of games research at IHS, said in the report.

"This accelerating picture and the rapid shift to games-as-a-service monetization models is fueling growth in content spending."

Though in NintendoLand, digital sales lag far behind the competition. Thank God. I dread the day gaming is digital only.

Check out this article below as well for more information and graphs about the IHS Report.

https://technology.ihs.com/600640/games-console-market-2017

What's the Japanese Mario Tennis Aces box art doing in here? lol

Kind of pricey. Going on the heavily discounted sale list.

Dragon Quest Builders sales are far from impressive. I believe the various PS versions have sold over 1 million units.

Some additional Japanese sales information.

Nintendo Switch Sold Over 3,800,000 Units in Japan in its First Year; Triples the PS4’s Debut Year

https://www.dualshockers.com/nintendo-switch-sales-japan-first-year/

The PS4 also passed a milestone, sales now total over 6.5 million in Japan alone.

The Switch has well over half of the PS4's lifetime sales in Japan and it's done so in a quarter of that time. It's a bit like comparing apples with oranges though.

Couldn't you just tell us?

I will hate it if gaming ever goes all digital.

Seen it already. Only open to UK residents.

I'd love to see new game announcements. Some real 3rd party support. I don't want to hear anything about amiibo or Labo. And no more ports please. Thanks.

(Nintendo's reaction to these requests.)