We're really looking forward to Bayonetta 3 on Switch; we simply cannot wait to take on the role of the titular Umbra Witch as she fights more angels and demons in a world that exists in one of three planes of reality. After the superb first and second titles, it's sure to be her most blissfully over-the-top adventure yet.
With the talented folks at PlatinumGames at the helm, we're assured of a ruddy good time. But a proverbial spanner could be thrown into the works if today's Nintendo Direct does not deliver the goods. In fact PlatinumGames' Hideki Kamiya has warned unless Nintendo announce the Virtual Console for Switch and a Joy-Con with a traditional cross-shape D-pad, his talented team of developers might even "lose motivation" for developing Bayonetta 3.
It's pretty obvious that Kamiya - who, despite blocking lots of people on Twitter, is known for his sense of humour - isn't being totally serious here. Still, he has a point; we'd love to see the Virtual Console for Switch be announced, and left Joy-Con with a proper D-pad is long overdue.
Humouring the clearly light-hearted tweet for a moment, we can only imagine the ramifications for Nintendo if they do not deliver the goods today. Let's hope they don't disappoint, eh?
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I agree with him on both sentiments. Hopefully he isn’t being serious about work on the game, though.
I like him even more now.
Do you guys have a running joke with putting the word "titular" into every Bayonetta article? It's like the new "This scribe".
The thumb sticks on the joy-con are a far bigger a hindrance to gameplay than the lack of a d-pad.
But it looks like we're not getting bayo3.
For me, Dpad joycons are something that would be cool if they where a thing, but it’s not as if Nintendo HAS to. If I need a Dpad, I’ll use a pro controller.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the directional buttons on the Joy-Con, to be honest. They're certainly a lot better than the D-Pad on the Pro Controller, that's for sure.
@Shellcore
Titular....Proverbial....This scribe.....
It drives me insane! 😵
They're taking the proverbial piss and ruining this scribe's titular Nintendo Life! Gaaahhh!
Heeeelloooo there lovely peeeeeople!
While I agree with his statement, that's probably not the best way to go about making the point.
Aaaaaaaaaand Kamiya blocked Nintendo Life on Twitter. Hahahahahahahaha!
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/971784436923715584
Kamiya blocked Nintendo Life?...I know how you feel there. =
remember when the DS only had D-Pads. ah, good times!
but, seriously would be nice to have a D-pad for the Joy-Cons.
Wish granted, but it's 2-3 games per week and it's VC games that have been released on Wii and Wii U's Virtual Console
Right on. Let em know the score Kamiya.
I agree with the d-pad. I don’t know who thought that was a good idea. Because it wasn’t.
I agree with this man! Can't Nintendo just make a Joycon with a proper D-Pad?! All they gotta do is connect the round buttons to form a D-Pad. Sure I can whip out the Pro Control but for on the go gaming it is pretty inconvenient.
This guy. XD
Aww, that's cute Kamiya.
Doesn’t anyone see this as a obvious teaser With the news of the konga controllers and the gba VC news?
Or is that just me reading into stuff or misreading english?
@darkswabber You're not the only one that thought this.
@idrawrobots thank you! Makes me hyped for the direct. Fingers crossed for the thousand year door.
i really REALLY hope he is joking. We don't want to lose Bayonetta 3 because of some d-pad and virtual console. COME ON NINTENDO DO SOMETHING.
Disagree. Switch needs no fragmentation without revision, however small. Plus, the arrow buttons really are just fine.
@LOZ_Master95 Yes he really is joking. I like his style though - important dev's could sway some decisions like this.
To be honest the d-pad on the Switch is not bad unless you play fighting games, for me with that exception it's better than ever since the gamecube.
Maybe it’s a hint at today’s direct...
Although, I agree those changes would be nice, it’s kind of a douchy way of going about it.
I mean he's not wrong
Tonight's direct: Bayo 3 cancelled
I'm with him too, even though I already got one with a d-pad, an official ones from Nintendo would be nice. Also VC needs to happen now that PG made this statement. You heard the man Nintendo, make it happen or you will lose Bayonetta 3 for good.
All is well in the world now
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/971791732286337024
On a serious note, I don't see why Nintendo can't put out a separate D-Pad Joy-Con. It would be a peripheral that wouldn't even be required for anything considering the D-Pad still works as a D-Pad.
Heck, I even prefer the Joy-Con D-Pad for menu navigation and some platformers like Sonic Mania.
Lease undastan !
He knows something.
@The_Mysteron Oooh, that last one really gets to me. I have to mute the first five seconds on NL videos these days.
And apart from anything else, why does he assume we're lovely? I personally am completely reprehensible.
Conspiracy
C'mon guys, even I don't know much about Kamiya and it's pretty obvious he is joking. This ain't Phil Fish we're talking about.
What a cool dude
Haha. This is nice. A little elbow to his business partner. Still, I wonder if he knows something we don't.
Didn't know who he was but now I love this guy!
@erv Erm, what? That's not "fragmentation" in any way. Both D-Buttons and D-Pads can play all games just fine. Why would you want to limit your options? If it's not for you, don't buy it, but I would definitely love to see more customized Joycons.
I love Platinum games. I finally purchased Nier Automata the other day on PS4. The story, the action, the music. It's astonishing.
It's kinda pointless, the joycons are terrible, even when plugged into the grip, so it's kinda moot.
Intriguing...
I love Kamiya.
He's basically making fun of all the professional complainers that do nothing but focus on this stuff. He is truly a god among men.
Obviously he's joking. Kamiya's a known s***poster.
New crosd d-pad joycon announced in tonights direct!
@TheTetrisGuy I think Nintendo are clearly leaving money on the table not releasing a D-PAD joycon. It will fly off the shelves.
Also a pro controller is no good when I am on the train playing undocked.
The thing I fear the most is that Nintendo already has announced Virtual console, but it could be only a subscription based service and not games that one can buy. I want to buy games I like, if the subscription service is just another option I have nothing against it as long as I can buy what I want too and not paying a subscription I'm not interested into.
While I totally understand/support his request for d-pads - which you can BTW mod into the Joycon yourself - I wouldn't really care if Bayonetta 3 didn't come to the Switch.
I found the first two games rather unremarkable und highly overrated - I'm pretty certain the games wouldn't be so popular if the game's protagonist wasn't a half-naked woman.
Funny, and he makes a very good point!
I’ll take folders at this point. Really need to have some order to my 40 odd games before they give me all the VC titles I’ve purchased in the past for free.....
See, I can also do tongue in cheek
Many times I tend to dislike Kamiya with is kind of finicky pushy personality, but this one is pure Kamiya and purely wonderful.
"cross shape d pad" even a developer for Nintendo won't call it by its actual name. It's the +Control Pad.
Also, the +Control Pad on Wii and Wii U is bad, I prefer the separate buttons on the Joy-Con so I don't accidentally hit one while keeping in another. The 3DS's +Control Pad doesn't have that problem, and I have no idea why they used the worse variant for Wii U
I'm glad he shares the same sentiments as the rest of us, but I'm sure he was just joking about losing motivation on Bayo 3.
Also, after playing the first two, I'm SERIOUSLY looking forward to it!
I care far more about savegame backups than any of his wishlist items. #SaveOurSaves
Lul.
More developers need to learn from this guy! lol
He sure is balancing that delicate line between snarky a**hole and hip edge lord quite well I'd say.
And watch Nintendo quickly throw together a port of Urban Champion NES to launch the service tonight.
He’s obviously joking, but I hope they submit to his demands.
I'd buy another joy-con set if they had a proper D-pad.
@dystome "apart from anything else, why does he assume we're lovely? I personally am completely reprehensible."
Lol 😂
He's just being a fan. But in case he has a double standard hidden in plain sight within the comment (personal people in his life would know), then he should humble himself and be satisfied with gamers who do actually buy into that series. It's not for me, personally.
I remember being continuously mocked for this sentiment a year ago...
As far as that mockup image is concerned, wouldn't it be better to replace the Joy-Con's analogue stick with a +Control Pad than to remove the face buttons? Imagine playing Tropical Freeze with that!
@Menchi187 Really? I think they're great.
NL please dont go all Daily Mail on us with these sensationalist headlines... back to the fluffy clouds and rainbows please.
Truly the greatest man of our time.
Looks like virtual console and d pad announcment today
His entire twitter account is pretty crazy lol
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Agreed...now I'm getting hyped for a VC announcement.
@roadrunner343 The problem is, the D-pad would have to work as face buttons as well (A, B, Y, X). It may not be a problem with most games, but it would be impossible to press both A and Y (or B and X) with that sort of controller.
Sure, it would be cool in handheld mode, but as a single, separate controller it would be horrible.
@KoopaTheGamer That's a complete non-issue though. You're buying an add on to your system. New systems wouldn't ship with a D-Pad Joy-Con.
It's similar to other arguments people make against online games not working on a "hybrid" system - just because the device can be used docked or portably, doesn't mean every game must work in every possible configuration. Likewise, not every controller needs to work as two separate controllers. You wouldn't complain that a pro controller only works as a single controller, right? So why limit options for those that wish to have a D-Pad for portable use?
@The_Mysteron it's not as bad as "the platform holder" over on Push Square. ITS OKAY TO CALL THEM SONY ONCE IN A WHILE!
@BlueKnight07 @SLIGEACH_EIRE i think you guys are setting yourself for disappointing.
but, i could be wrong... so will see.
@AlternateButtons I can see that. Fanboys spamming demands for him to do certain things is a HUUUGE (yes. caps-lock is needed to truly emphasize his burning distaste in this case) berserk button for him.
He has a point! D-pad and VC! Then Switch would be (almost) perfect. A proper user account for downlads would round it up!
@TheTetrisGuy NEVER buy the Pro Controller for the DPAD. You have to JUST PERFECTLY touch JUST THE TIP of directionals otherwise you get misses - mine LOVES to register "right" when I press up. It's horrible. Rest of the controller is luxury comfort. Nothing is better than pressing up, it reading right, swapping to an empty weapon on Resident Evil and dying.
@Cronopi He also blocks people who mention his name in a tweet (not even mean tweets) - loves blocking journailists who do it.
is there gonna be a stream on NL for the direct?
Even Nintendolife got blocked by Kamiya. That I find absolutely hilarious.
@Dang69 Is this a common thing?
I so so so SO AGREE , please Nintendo release that cross shaped D- Pad Joy Con controller it would be a day one purchase for me and yes I know we have a pro-controller but it would be so much better to have a Joy Con with a proper D-Pad and yes the VC would be another great addition to the one and only amazing Nintendo Switch.
Oh no.
Nintendo, you better deliver him the goods. I NEED my Bayo 3.
@Shellcore I, for one, sometimes miss our ‘humble scribe.’
The bastard blocked me, don’t even know why.
Still love him anyway😆
Well now there’s no bayonetta 3. Nintendo should have released new joycons or the Virtual Console.
haha! we all know Kamiya is known for his outlandish comments, but maybe Nintendo will listen to this one! I think we all want to see Virtual Console!!
I too want those things. So I appreciate him drawing attention that Nintendo is likely to notice.
he probably knows something. maybe that bayonetta game they trolled steam with before the 4k version will show up on vc.
I already have a dpad thanks to those 3 party shells. It works EXTREMELY well. Feels just like a normal dpad
@daveh30 "it's not as bad as "the platform holder" over on Push Square. ITS OKAY TO CALL THEM SONY ONCE IN A WHILE!"
Maybe they've typed Sony so many times that they've broken those keys on their keyboard
@Shellcore It's becuase of titty's
I guess Bayo 3 is being canceled
No D-Pad probably has something to do with the design strategy of the Switch. To make the Joy-Cons very similar for when you use them as seperate controllers with a friend on the go. So neither has the advantage.
The D-pad would cause a bit of a flaw with split joy-con play, but the virtual console is a must. It needs to be something stable, not rental. Who in the world wants to create saved data just to throw it away?
The guy is right! Where the hell is Switch Virtual Console already?!? It’s ridiculous! Thank God for Hamster!!
D-Pad Joycon + Bayo 3 bundle comfirmed
I mainly use a pro controller when docked, but undocked I can't say I miss my D-pad all that much. I'd still be fine with D-pad joycons being sold, but I've yet to really struggle with buttons.
No virtual console or d-pad announced. I guess Bayo 3 is cancelled....
@Steven_the_2nd "I already have a dpad thanks to those 3 party shells. It works EXTREMELY well. Feels just like a normal dpad"
I've been tempted to try this, but fear damaging my joycons. Was it difficult to change the outer casing? I heard from one of Alex's videos that the screw heads stripped very easily.
@The_Mysteron I actually have a time-lapse video of it on my youtube channel. Also a post in regards to using 3-party joy-cons 5-months later . http://gunplagamer.com/2018/03/03/3rd-party-joy-cons-5-months-later/
Its difficult in the way that if you mess up on one of the wires, you will need to go buy a new joy-con. Also, you will need the correct pair of tri-wing screwdrivers because you do not get them with the joy-con. I mention the exact ones I used in my post and they are spectacular.
The full video was about an hour or so going through the various points on what to be careful with and what not so I made it into a time lapse for people to easily digest it in around 10 minutes.
Check out the time lapse, and if you are having difficulty I can upload the full video.
It is fairly simple once you get the hang of it. I actually live streamed it on Instagram. There are several videos out there that tell you how to break down the joy-con but I did not really find many with the installation of the d-pad.
@Steven_the_2nd
Asks if it was difficult....gets a time-lapse instructional video. Lol.
Thanks Steve. You went above and beyond there. 🙌
So hang on, ports are bad unless it's Virtual Console, then ports are good?
@Crono1973 With the Dpad on the Pro? Yes. I've tried a lot of them over the course of months. If you poke around online you'll find discussions on, "there is no issue, anyone saying there is an issue is making it up" to others saying, "it's completely unusable for anything requiring a Dpad". Look up the "tape solution" if you're interested in using the Dpad on it. That solution works but requires opening up the controller. They made the sensor strips too long under the cross bar. I love the actual controller though, 10 months of playing using the reg JoyCon grip really hurt my hands.
@Dang69 It's too expensive for me to buy one if it does not have a Nintendo-perfect D Pad.
@TheTetrisGuy The problem with the Pro Controller is that the D-Pad is absolutely and unequivocally borked! The only version of the Pro Controller that supposedly somewhat works in the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 one, but only a few people have that one. Trying to play Celeste with that Pro Controller is truly an exercise in frustration as dash forward is registered as dash diagonal up half of the time. And playing Tetris with it?!? Don't get me started!
@The_Mysteron No problem at all. If I could, I would help everyone install 3P joy-cons, but many I am guessing would not be willing on sending their joy-cons to me...lol
I really don't know what to think of this guy. I get that he has a sense of humour but to me, humour has it's limits and when your idea of "humour" is randomly blocking people on Twitter as well as threatening something like this, I think you're taking it too far.
Even I've been blocked on Twitter by this guy and to be honest, all it's done is made me not want to buy any game this dude develops because in my opinion, why should I part with money I've earned to a guy that's blocked me for no reason?
Sorry, I just don't like the guy, which is a shame because I normally have a lot of respect for game developers.
he's like the opposite of the friendly japanese stereotype lol
He was basically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g
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