@RadioHedgeFund I'm thinking myself that the plot of Sonic CD would be adapted with some new elements. With the post-credit scenes being what they are, we have to explain where they come from, right? Why not Little Planet?
@Ravenmaster Your benchmark for looking and playing better is the likes of stuff on PC and PS5. You've already stacked the deck.
What Nintendo's continued success and the continued success of games on it outside of their library proves is that the most cutting edge graphics are not necessary for a good game.
Just a good framerate and great style, and good gameplay.
@PikaPhantom Because this is a different Sonic. Just like how BOOM Sonic is different from Main Games Sonic, who is different from SATAM Sonic, and who is different from Sonic from the OVA.
Honestly, you guys obsessing with him not being like his game counterpart is more annoying than Sonic himself in the movies.
Sonic is allowed to be interpreted differently between sections of the franchise, and so far they kept Sonic's core characteristics while doing their own thing.
I've been through every Sonic incarnation and there's no extreme fladerization going on here. Just a bunch of people who clearly just don't like that his personality is "excitable culture-savvy jokester."
Some of you cynical people here need to grow up. Good grief. Even I want a new Mega Man game and understand the frustration, but some of you are just being downright petty.
@RygelXVIII Made worse by it being said by some people who have a clear bent against the company and want to say stupid ***** to justify their disdain.
@Daniel36 Precisely this. Thinking being able to eat healthy all the time, especially in some places, is an arrogant mindset. The less healthy stuff is cheaper to put to market and easier for the consumer to buy.
The only reason you could possibly "Save lots of money" is by the fact you're able to buy less food when going for pure healthy options.
Not nearly as formally as a direct translation from Japanese is, and certainly not all the time, as an "untampered" translation would do. Nobody is that formal all the time in every situation, and even though I am American, I'm pretty sure the British don't either.
And your assertion of "if the original untranslated text isn't appealing to you, it wasn't written for you" is pure nonsense. Understanding the original untranslated text requires knowing the language to begin with, and by then, whether or not it's appealing is a moot point.
And you're once again showing like so many others, you have no idea what localization is for. What you're stating about "rampant" localization is the exact opposite of what localization does. It isn't just about making the original understandable to a foreign audience but attempting to bring the nuances forward too, not obscure them.
And no, your assumption of what I said is clearly a bogus and projected reading. Do yourself a favor and don't shove words into my mouth.
EDIT: Adding more to this: translation and localization are not the same thing. Directly translating the text doesn't translate all the meaning and nuance behind it. That's why localization is important. The direct translated words do not always or accurately carry the tone of what is being said.
Do you seriously believe rigidly using formal-sounding speech when a character is getting riled up, is going to convey the tone to the audience? And that's going on the assumption not every line is going to be voiced, as is often the case in a lot of games. The meaning of the words used matters, and the text comes from that meaning, not the other way around. Those of you who want as direct as possible translations are putting the cart before the horse, constantly with that.
The anti-censorship people are crazy. They literally will point to a minority of not particularly good translation work and use it to paint the broadest brush possible over pretty much all of the practice of translation and localization, and show they have zero concept for why localization matters.
I have seen unlocalized dialogue. Direct translation is always noticeably stiff and off-putting to read because it feels unnatural in another language. Especially with JPN to English because it feels overly formal. There's no personality to it, and thats not the way an English speaker would actually speak under all circumstances.
@SurprisedRobinChu Playing the devil's advocate, ripping games regardless is still piracy by legal definition because you're illegally copying and redistributing the software without the rightsholders permission.
Difference is it becomes a lot less of a moral issue when, as you said, the said software is not widely available, or otherwise inaccessible and the rightsholder provides no legal means of access.
@Dr_Lugae You mean just like the people who keep saying "That dark gray is black!" because even bothering with the nuances of why people do any kind of piracy beyond the assumption of wanting stuff for free would hurt their ego?
That said, the problem here is the distribution bit is a supposed thing and not a certainty, and if they were indeed doing that, then I agree, they deserve this.
@Maubari That's probably why. Difference between a patent and copyright is pretty distinct. Copyright is talked about way more in general in reference to video games.
Copyright in general is about protecting expressions of ideas held by a rightsholder. Patents on the other hand require technical details of processes of production or how things work to be valid.
Yeah... this is downright ugly, no matter how creatively bankrupt Pocketpair is, unless these are resubs of previous patents, this is super sketchy and gross.
...Nah, it's gross regardless. Stuff this vague shouldn't be patent-able in the first place. Ugh.
@LadyCharlie no, it isn't? This is forcing them to admit the obvious.
The next step is pressurinthem to make ownership a reality. The only way they can try to dunk on this is malicious compliance, but it would be their own fault and choice in that case too.
@VoidofLight The best compromise would be to design temples or dungeons with puzzles that have one main solution, and then like 10 different ways you can achieve the same result, as with Shrines, but having the said puzzles be centralized around a theme or having to do with the dungeon or the boss.
@Dr_Lugae Everyone who wants Nintendo to lose will deliberately ignore that fact. They think the recently lackluster-ness of Pokemon games is the reason Nintendo is going after them, and because Palworld made a game that appeals to a certain edgy and childish demographic who think the ideal Pokemon game has more violence, more dark themes, and weapons.
Unironically, that's what some people were saying before it's launch on Steam.
But like you said, Pocketpair crossed a line that the other franchises didn't.
@Arehexes An entirely disingenuous response based on ignorance, reality invalidates it.
The majority of those fan projects still require work to be done by the ones making them, whether it be coding, visual assets, sounds and more. Even stuff like AM2R and Pokemon Uranium required them to make their own code, make new sprite work, etc...
To suggest that's the same as using Generative Image Algorithms is to discount what effort was put into it, as being the same level as typing a prompt and endlessly rolling the roulette for whatever comes closest.
That's complete, over-reductive nonsense. It does not hold any water.
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Re: Nintendo Lawyer Breaks Down What Makes An Emulator Illegal
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Re: Sonic's Next Movie Outings Could Go Beyond Earth To New "Fantastical Zones"
@Not_Soos Frankly speaking I'm hoping for a couple things:
That Sonic CD's plot is adapted, and maybe some inspiration from the comics in the form of the Metallix being a Borg-like entity.
Re: Sonic's Next Movie Outings Could Go Beyond Earth To New "Fantastical Zones"
@RadioHedgeFund I'm thinking myself that the plot of Sonic CD would be adapted with some new elements. With the post-credit scenes being what they are, we have to explain where they come from, right? Why not Little Planet?
Re: New Patent Seemingly Confirms Nvidia 4K AI Upscaling For Switch 2
@Ravenmaster Your benchmark for looking and playing better is the likes of stuff on PC and PS5. You've already stacked the deck.
What Nintendo's continued success and the continued success of games on it outside of their library proves is that the most cutting edge graphics are not necessary for a good game.
Just a good framerate and great style, and good gameplay.
Re: Bandai Namco Promises To Release Tales Remasters "Fairly Consistently"
@Angelic_Lapras_King did you see what they're doing with the Trails in the Sky remake, dude?
Re: Bandai Namco Promises To Release Tales Remasters "Fairly Consistently"
TBH i kinda wish they'd give Tales of Symphonia the same treatment Nihon Falcom is giving the remake of Trails in the Sky.
Re: Pac-Man's New Game 'Shadow Labyrinth' Is Getting A Physical Switch Release
@Zeebor15 What is Kirby 7?
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of The Sonic 3 Movie Are In
@PikaPhantom Because this is a different Sonic. Just like how BOOM Sonic is different from Main Games Sonic, who is different from SATAM Sonic, and who is different from Sonic from the OVA.
Honestly, you guys obsessing with him not being like his game counterpart is more annoying than Sonic himself in the movies.
Sonic is allowed to be interpreted differently between sections of the franchise, and so far they kept Sonic's core characteristics while doing their own thing.
I've been through every Sonic incarnation and there's no extreme fladerization going on here. Just a bunch of people who clearly just don't like that his personality is "excitable culture-savvy jokester."
Re: Palworld Developer Pocketpair Changes Pokémon-Like Summoning Mechanic
@LadyCharlie Again, the patents are derivative patents of one that was filed well before Palworld's release.
That doesn't change the fact what Nintendo is doing is scummy and shady, but lets not keep spreading misinformation.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Questions Future Of Consoles, But Not Nintendo Hardware
@batmanbud2 As someone who games on both Switch and PC. You couldn't be more wrong.
Re: Video: Here's The Official Mega Man Trailer For Amazon's 'Secret Level' Series
@Lizuka Cause Mega Man's only had one totally new game that wasn't a Legacy Collection or XDive in 13 years. Coming up on 14.
So it literally has been a decade.
Re: Video: Here's The Official Mega Man Trailer For Amazon's 'Secret Level' Series
Some of you cynical people here need to grow up. Good grief. Even I want a new Mega Man game and understand the frustration, but some of you are just being downright petty.
Re: Zelda's Voice Actor Would Love To See The Princess In "More" Playable Roles
@Yoshi3 Almost like you missed the point of the "wisdom" part of the title.
Re: Nintendo Adds Metroid Prime 4: Beyond To Official Metroid Website, Says It's "Coming Soon"
@splinters yeah, no.
Re: Nintendo Adds Metroid Prime 4: Beyond To Official Metroid Website, Says It's "Coming Soon"
@splinters Remind me how often those are true?
Re: Nintendo Adds Metroid Prime 4: Beyond To Official Metroid Website, Says It's "Coming Soon"
@RiasGremory again, do you have any idea hiw long it would take to remaster ut the way they did?
Re: Nintendo Adds Metroid Prime 4: Beyond To Official Metroid Website, Says It's "Coming Soon"
@anoyonmus Do you know how long that would take?
Re: Random: Iconic 'DK Rap' Song Has Been Remade 25 Years Later
As someone who grew up with both rap and DK64.
This remake is pretty darn kickin!
Re: Palworld Developer Details Patent Infringement Claims From Nintendo's Lawsuit
@JohnnyMind agreed on the legal but scummy part, as much as I disdain Pocketpair.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Xenoblade Chronicles X For Switch?
@Maxz I assume you're joking
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
@nessisonett there's one just above you making excuses
Re: Talking Point: Just How Damaging Is This Big Pokémon Leak?
@Savage_Joe You're not Savage at this point, just a Pot-Shotter.
Re: Pokémon Developer Game Freak Reportedly Hacked, Massive Amounts Of Data Allegedly Leaked
@RygelXVIII Made worse by it being said by some people who have a clear bent against the company and want to say stupid ***** to justify their disdain.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
@UsernameMayne only one of the things you said actually correct.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 19.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I honestly, genuinely wonder what they've actually done.
Re: Dragon Quest's Creator Criticises 'Mistranslation' Of DQ3 Remake Costume Comments
@Daniel36 Precisely this. Thinking being able to eat healthy all the time, especially in some places, is an arrogant mindset. The less healthy stuff is cheaper to put to market and easier for the consumer to buy.
The only reason you could possibly "Save lots of money" is by the fact you're able to buy less food when going for pure healthy options.
Re: Dragon Quest's Creator Criticises 'Mistranslation' Of DQ3 Remake Costume Comments
@Samalik Gonna from the bottom up of your post.
Not nearly as formally as a direct translation from Japanese is, and certainly not all the time, as an "untampered" translation would do. Nobody is that formal all the time in every situation, and even though I am American, I'm pretty sure the British don't either.
And your assertion of "if the original untranslated text isn't appealing to you, it wasn't written for you" is pure nonsense. Understanding the original untranslated text requires knowing the language to begin with, and by then, whether or not it's appealing is a moot point.
And you're once again showing like so many others, you have no idea what localization is for. What you're stating about "rampant" localization is the exact opposite of what localization does. It isn't just about making the original understandable to a foreign audience but attempting to bring the nuances forward too, not obscure them.
And no, your assumption of what I said is clearly a bogus and projected reading. Do yourself a favor and don't shove words into my mouth.
EDIT: Adding more to this: translation and localization are not the same thing. Directly translating the text doesn't translate all the meaning and nuance behind it. That's why localization is important. The direct translated words do not always or accurately carry the tone of what is being said.
Do you seriously believe rigidly using formal-sounding speech when a character is getting riled up, is going to convey the tone to the audience? And that's going on the assumption not every line is going to be voiced, as is often the case in a lot of games. The meaning of the words used matters, and the text comes from that meaning, not the other way around. Those of you who want as direct as possible translations are putting the cart before the horse, constantly with that.
Re: Dragon Quest's Creator Criticises 'Mistranslation' Of DQ3 Remake Costume Comments
@Tobiaku yeah, no.
The anti-censorship people are crazy. They literally will point to a minority of not particularly good translation work and use it to paint the broadest brush possible over pretty much all of the practice of translation and localization, and show they have zero concept for why localization matters.
I have seen unlocalized dialogue. Direct translation is always noticeably stiff and off-putting to read because it feels unnatural in another language. Especially with JPN to English because it feels overly formal. There's no personality to it, and thats not the way an English speaker would actually speak under all circumstances.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Episode 2 Is Out Now
@SalvorHardin i smell confirmation bias
Re: Metroid 64 Fan Game Blends Prime Mechanics With Other M
This is the worst possible thing to do to this project
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@SurprisedRobinChu Playing the devil's advocate, ripping games regardless is still piracy by legal definition because you're illegally copying and redistributing the software without the rightsholders permission.
Difference is it becomes a lot less of a moral issue when, as you said, the said software is not widely available, or otherwise inaccessible and the rightsholder provides no legal means of access.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
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@Dr_Lugae You mean just like the people who keep saying "That dark gray is black!" because even bothering with the nuances of why people do any kind of piracy beyond the assumption of wanting stuff for free would hurt their ego?
That said, the problem here is the distribution bit is a supposed thing and not a certainty, and if they were indeed doing that, then I agree, they deserve this.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
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Re: Another New Atelier RPG Is Heading To Switch Next Year
@nitrolink Maybe start by not conflating the Atelier series with all JRPGs and you'll get somewhere.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Bolt_Strike might try working their way up to it with this
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Jiggies oh really? Weird and telling how?
Care to elaborate?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Maubari That's probably why. Difference between a patent and copyright is pretty distinct. Copyright is talked about way more in general in reference to video games.
Copyright in general is about protecting expressions of ideas held by a rightsholder. Patents on the other hand require technical details of processes of production or how things work to be valid.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
Yeah... this is downright ugly, no matter how creatively bankrupt Pocketpair is, unless these are resubs of previous patents, this is super sketchy and gross.
...Nah, it's gross regardless. Stuff this vague shouldn't be patent-able in the first place. Ugh.
Re: Californian Law Dictates Storefronts Be Honest About Digital Game Ownership
@LadyCharlie no, it isn't? This is forcing them to admit the obvious.
The next step is pressurinthem to make ownership a reality. The only way they can try to dunk on this is malicious compliance, but it would be their own fault and choice in that case too.
Re: Maria & Melphiles Feature In New Sonic X Shadow Generations Trailer
@MirrorFate2 do you know what context is. Look at the game this is being put in. Then try again.
Re: Yo-Kai Watch Returns With 'Holy Horror Mansion' Teaser
Ima be honest, this seems pretty cool.
Re: ICYMI: Yes, Dungeons Return In The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom
@VoidofLight The best compromise would be to design temples or dungeons with puzzles that have one main solution, and then like 10 different ways you can achieve the same result, as with Shrines, but having the said puzzles be centralized around a theme or having to do with the dungeon or the boss.
Re: Analyst Is Certain Nintendo Will Win Its Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@Dr_Lugae Everyone who wants Nintendo to lose will deliberately ignore that fact. They think the recently lackluster-ness of Pokemon games is the reason Nintendo is going after them, and because Palworld made a game that appeals to a certain edgy and childish demographic who think the ideal Pokemon game has more violence, more dark themes, and weapons.
Unironically, that's what some people were saying before it's launch on Steam.
But like you said, Pocketpair crossed a line that the other franchises didn't.
Re: Palworld Developer Responds To Nintendo Lawsuit
@axelhander or maybe recognizing Pocketpair's lack of merit and you being intentionally dense
Re: Palworld Developer Responds To Nintendo Lawsuit
@RygelXVIII stop being disingenuous, you know "bashing them for trying something new" isn't the crux of things here
Re: Nintendo And Pokémon File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer Pocketpair
@PepperMintRex The CEO themselves basically said they aren't interested in being original.
Their entire catalogue is derivative.
Re: More Developers Announce Their Tokyo Game Show 2024 Lineups
I'm surprised Dragon Quest Monsters is being shown off there, is it a version for other consoles?
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@Arehexes An entirely disingenuous response based on ignorance, reality invalidates it.
The majority of those fan projects still require work to be done by the ones making them, whether it be coding, visual assets, sounds and more. Even stuff like AM2R and Pokemon Uranium required them to make their own code, make new sprite work, etc...
To suggest that's the same as using Generative Image Algorithms is to discount what effort was put into it, as being the same level as typing a prompt and endlessly rolling the roulette for whatever comes closest.
That's complete, over-reductive nonsense. It does not hold any water.