After months of Switch Pro rumours, Nintendo finally revealed its new hardware SKU - but it would seem that under the hood, the Switch OLED Model is very much the same beast as the original Switch.
While there were rumours that the new version would boast a more powerful processor to handle 4K output when docked, these have proven to be inaccurate – in regards to this model, at least.
Nintendo has confirmed to The Verge that:
Nintendo Switch (OLED model) does not have a new CPU, or more RAM, from previous Nintendo Switch models.
What the OLED Model does offer is a bigger, better screen, enhanced audio and a redesigned dock which now includes a LAN port.
The Switch OLED Model launches alongside Metroid Dread on October 8th, and will retail for $349.99 in North America and around £310 in the United Kingdom.
Nvidia – the company which produces the Tegra X1 Mariko "system on a chip" that powers both the Switch and Switch Lite – is reported to be bringing production of the SoC that powers all three Switch models to an end this year.
[source theverge.com]
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I never once thought that, people did?
If they did do 4K support, then games would have to be patched to take advantage of it. Plus I don't have a 4K TV, so this isn't a lost to me.
Why do people think this is the Switch Pro? This is the equivalent to the Nintendo 3DS XL when it first came out.
Wasn't expecting that much anyway
I was always under the assumption that the next Nintendo console whether it be the Switch 2 or something new would be where they attempt to address the power disparity between them and Sony/Microsoft
I was honestly expecting 4K output in TV mode though. Kind of seems weird to solely cater this model seemingly to just the people who play in handheld mode when it's a full fat Switch and not a Lite model
Good, i'm actually glad I don't have to waste money for small upgrades, i'm good with my redbox Switch lol
I was just hoping that Nintendo’s own first party games would be able to run at a steady FPS at the very least. It isn’t a big deal, but they could have done a little more.
Sounds good to me, my wallet can take a break 😂
So an OLED screen and more internal storage are enough to get the price up to $350, but Switch Pro club expected $399 for blackjack and 4K. What a day of wake-up calls.😅
Well I have no reason to get this. Honestly it seems more like another option for people without switches who have some extra money.
People really need to stop believing all the rumours and then cry when said rumours don’t come true.
SWITCH PRO 2022 LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
please.
Why is it that nobody can take what Nintendo says at face value.
They think they the Switch has another 4 years left. The sales would back that up. But no. Someone has to say 'obviously that means they are going to release a new console.'
Crazy.
♩♩ I'm all 'bout that screen, 'bout that screen, no faster ♩♩
Enhanced processing inbound for Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3. Just 1-6 more years my fellow youth, just 1-6 more years
nintendo never promised a switch with ps4 graphics... nowhere. never. that was these so called insiders. I like the small improvements. they were needed. the switch that will have the big major improvements will be the switch 2. and when that comes out and what it will be up to Nintendo... NOT EMILY ROGERS.
Absolutely hilarious the damage control the “Switch Pro” defenders are going through right now!
The fact that they had to confirm this goes to show that people were really, really expecting a performance upgrade.
If Nintendo had a dream 4K console to programme for they would never get a game out of their in house AAA studios.
It takes them ages as it is, imagine adding graphical quality of say HZDFW or FH5 or last of us 2 or gears of war and all the top end 4K stuff, textures, lighting, shadows, ray tracing etc.
It would ten years plus to a Zelda BOTW2 or Mario Odyssey 2. They don’t have the in house development teams big enough for it.
Also, this is like the Vita, on reverse. Vita went from LED to LCD.
And here we go again.. this comment section is more proof that we're in for a bumpy ride of the same rehashed rumors being repeated ad nauseum until we get a new console, where the same stuff will be repeated there as well. People just need to honestly chill out and wait for official reveals instead of clinging to "insiders" who truthfully know nothing about the consoles themselves.
What makes it worth 50 dollars extra?64 gb? Lan?
No better specs, battery life, or anything. they should drop the regular model by 50 and sell this at 300
I was at work all day. Getting this now, how does this beast upgrade compare to the old Switch? Oh wait, next to none. 🤣 hilarious how the fervent cult like fans defend Switch here. I own Switch, One and PS5 , so I am not tied to blind loyalty here. 😜
Indirectly glanced at the Switch in the picture and it looked like it was melting hehe.
@The_New_Butler
A lot less Nintendo games too.
Like, none at all.
@The_New_Butler actually for the same price you can buy an all digital ps5.
@liljmoore you are wrong go to their website. battery life has been improved on some games it is up to 9 hours not 7. so there is some new improvements. nintendo never promised 4k graphics that was people like emily rogers. the small improvents were needed. you want major improvements. that will be the switch 2. nintendo would not make a pro unit more powerful than the true successor to the switch.. they are not stupid.
So this is more like going from DS to DS Lite or from 3DS to 3DS XL, not really like what we got on the DSi or the New 3DS.
No big deal if you don't get one of these. This is clearly for people who prefer handheld mode or tabletop mode, not for those who favor docked mode.
@HammerGalladeBro
It's arguably less impressive of a leap than those systems too.
DS Lite was significant for how much better the screens were,and how less bulky the system was.
3DS XL was significant for being a more comfortable size in general, and having a better button layout.
Both those iterations fixed significant flaws or shortcomings with their predecessors, you cannot say the same about the Switch OLED model.
I’m fairly happy with the spec of the machine, the lack of Bluetooth headphone support is the main failing in my eyes. I’m not sure why Nintendo can’t get that right, it’s a pain having to keep wired headphones around just for the Switch when everything else I’ve got works with my various sets of wireless headphones.
What about GPU? Seriously, having aging technology on a new console releasing this year would be unacceptable. I expect at least some small changes on its architecture if anything. I wonder if Nintendo's interest on exploring cutting-edge technology from last year actually paid off.
And if that report is true, then it means this new model will still have a different chipset, right?
Also, from that same news page: "A logical answer would be that Nintendo will phase out the original Switch model and its 'Lite' sibling in favour of new versions of both models, as it did with the 3DS and 2DS when the New 3DS and New 2DS became available."
That's exactly what I'm expecting this new console will do compared to the original Switch.
@HammerGalladeBro I have no idea why they didn't just call this the switch xl.
@Peteykins how often do revisions of game consoles usually get announced?
But yeah. It feels a bit like the bare minimum, Nintendo. And you knew that a white color would sell.
No performance upgrade means everyone still have to endure s##tty graphics using handheld mode when playing games like XC2, which defeat the purpose of having a bigger OLED screen.
Having upgraded hardware which enables better handheld image quality doesn't require much update or even no update at all for most games IIRC, just load and use docked mode graphic settings, that's all. Also won't break compatibility like New 3DS only games.
Guess I still have to wait for emulators to let me play XC2 in its full glory.
Weird man. Super weird. I am gonna go out on a limb and guess the Superconductor shortage is a big reason for this. Maybe they'll come out with some kind of DLSS USB Adapter or something. This is nice-ish, but a really MEH upgrade.
The switch costs peanuts to manufacture, plus all the sales they get from cheap parts breaking. nothing they've done in the past or said publicly should have given people the idea that there would be some kind of super powered switch just a few years out from the next console.
Bayonetta 3 confirmed
@Crockin does it? Can you kindly show us the exact manufacturing costs?
@FragRed @nhSnork Well, apparently they haven't woken up yet, but they're not crying (too much): they've simply repositioned the goal posts, and now this model Switch is one of the two that were "already" predicted. Yup, some SERIOUS reaching going on there...
@GrailUK @VoidofLight Well, that's the internet for ya: if the truth isn't interesting or powerful enough, and plenty of "insiders" promise a FAR better future than the one we basically know Nintendo is willing/going to give us, then obviously, a lot of hopelessly devoted people will turn to the dark side...
There's nothing wrong with this OLED Switch. The only reason it's a disappointment is because of stupid rumors and baseless hype.
Personally, I'm happy that I won't feel the need to upgrade. A genuine Switch Pro would have cost me money I'd rather spend on new games.
@ThanosReXXX Oh yes I did just start seeing these goal posts moving. Jeff Grubb being one saying he always thought 2022 was the year for the new pro model.
I'm waiting for the inevitable article about nintendo stock dropping due to this announcement not meeting expectations.
I'm then waiting for it to drop again when it launches because investors thought it would sell more in its first month than the OG model... only to then be informed it had the best first month sales of any console refresh in Nintendo history. Investors and fans alike are a joke, holding rumors as gospel and then punishing these companies for not delivering exactly what the rumor-mill promised.
@weisske because it would imply that this Switch is bigger in size … you know… like Extra Large? Which it isnt
@nhSnork Basically it's just $10 each. The original price for Switch is $300, for this new one you get these. At least it's cheaper than if you want all these features for your old Switch.
The original Switch package = $300 (so the system, joycons, dock, adapter, HDMI, and grip. It will cost you around $400 if you buy these in good condition separately)
System = $200
Joycons = $60
Dock = $70
Power adapter = $20
HDMI = $10
Control grip = $10
A new dock with a LAN adapter built-in = $10 (a standalone LAN adapter for your old Switch dock may cost you at least $12-$15)
64gb of storage = $10 (a 64gb microSD or USB flash drive could cost you $12-$25)
Oled screen = $10 (modding your old Switch to get Oled quality screen will cost you around $150-$200 depending on where you get service not to mention you had to buy the screen kit in the first place)
New sound chip = $10 (modding your old Switch to get better audio is costly as well probably in the $80-$150)
Bigger stand = $10 (It would had cost you $12-$15 just for a good replacement stand for your old Switch).
When you think about it, that's a $500-$600 value for only $350.
@fafonio it was sarcasm, friend.
@The_New_Butler
Sure, but if you intend to buy Switch or Switch OLED model to play Nintendo games (as most people do), the Xbox Series S or PS5 Digital being at a similar price range won't really make a difference as neither of those platforms offer Nintendo games.
Also, if price was your main concern, the Switch or Switch OLED model wouldn't even be on your radar - the Switch Life is what you would be going after.
@FragRed I actually meant here in the forums, not so much by the insiders themselves, although you do also have a point there.
I bet Nintendo is doing this on purpose. Most of us will be disappointed and our hopes have been dashed and then they announce a Nintendo Switch Pro next year. Nintendo is probably just milking the people that will buy this barely better system. This system is just for the handheld players.
@Itachi2099 Same! I couldn't be happier. My Switch has never been played unless it's been docked. No need whatsoever for me to upgrade, and I'm grateful for it.
Disappointed, but this was expected, it just means that there will be parity for all Switch games since there won't be a need for performance improvements due to better hardware. Guess we will have to save that for the Switch successor which is fine by me.
then it's not worth the purchase
@ThanosReXXX Ohh I saw the forums earlier. Nearly left a comment but decided against the idea. Will wait and bide my time to strike.
@FragRed Yeah... I already gave that a go a while back. Logic wasn't appreciated, apparently...
It’s Nintendo. Didn’t expect anything major
I feel like there will need to be another article about the battery life as people didn't get it in the other one. Using an OLED uses less power and it seems like a significant improvement. I think the variable nature makes it tougher to advertise (super bright games that have most of the screen in light colors will eat it up much faster than games that are not as bright with OLED, for instance.)
This is a solid new option, very nice.
It's like the cardboard argument with Labo where people will say "it's just cardboard" when there was impressive software and attention to detail in the package, and this update is "just the screen" when the battery life and audio is significantly improved and the dock is improved with the LAN connection and the size of the screen will definitely be noticeable. Haters gonna hate.
@VoidofLight if it makes you feel that mad maybe you should stop visiting Internet forums. People speculate, right or wrong, it’s fun. No ones crying here
@Peteykins yeah that’s kinda annoying to be honest, but instead (we) get slapped with the “yOu CaN jUSt IgNoRe tHem”. It’s kinda hard to respect the people here if you can churn that many articles into 1. But yeah everything for the clicks
Meh pass for me
Info provided by a leaker, probably:
“Sir, people are complaining about Joy-Con drift and poor performance with the Switch. What should we do?”
“Ehhh, just give them a new screen.”
“Genius, sir.”
@The_New_Butler This, this AND this. There’s literally no argument, and I’m not surprised fans are defending their precious, heartless corporation, yet again. Isn’t it amazing how strong brand loyalty is? Nintendo can do no wrong, to some of these people! Great post!
@ThanosReXXX
@MetalToad Except, people are. If you look around, you can clearly see people who are extremely disappointed with this new model for the fact that it's not what these rumors were boasting about. They're living in complete denial, and clinging upon a system that doesn't exist, which was literally just made up by "insiders" effectively.
@The_New_Butler
Well yeah, if you are looking for big 3rd-party AAA games, particularly those with realistic graphics in the online shooter, open-world, or action-adventure genre, then the Switch (and Nintendo in general) probably isn't for you.
Yikes. No upgrade on an already dated chip from four years ago? The disparity with other consoles is going to widen-- I expect third party support will drop as well. At least it's still selling well, so we should get at least some third party support.
@VoidofLight if your looking for it then ok but why is it making you troubled and stressed. If a better switch comes out great, if it doesn’t that’s great too. Speculating is fun and as Nintendo fans it brings us all together. You must’ve not been here the Wii u/3ds days.
Don’t let rumours, fake leaks bug you or just stay away from these topics.
@FragRed These people deserve what gets coming at this point.
New system, no performance changes.
Kind of a waste, I think.
@ThanosReXXX @SleepyBlanc Thing is, we all know this new Switch revision will sell millions to the casual public regardless how these people cry and how they insist Nintendo are making a pro and that this was all just a miss reading of the stars because they weren't aligned with the moon and the rocks with the ocean over a tribal dance.
@RadioShadow no they wouldn't: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/02/video_digital_foundry_explores_the_potential_of_ai_upscaling_tech_for_a_theoretical_switch_pro
@The_New_Butler It’s fun watching everyone swarm to counter argument. Goes great with the popcorn.
We all need to boycott this. Nintendo will only do something about it if the OLED tanks. Please all pass on this and hopefully Nintendo will get the message.
@HamatoYoshi peanuts relative to other consoles on the market I should say. I think the vanilla switch is like $250 per unit iirc. Compare that to Sony and MS who sell their current consoles at a loss, but generate all their revenue through software, subscriptions etc. which is pretty common for the industry. Nintendo hasn’t operated that way in a long time, I believe since the GameCube tanked. Now it’s like a hybrid. They make a little on hardware, tons on software, and replacement joycons etc
@nhSnork Well done, young padawan...
@FragRed Don't forget the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
I just want to play co-op Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity at a decent framerate? Is that too much to ask?!?
What a wasted opportunity. It is frankly astonishing that they didn't use this chance to upgrade the tegra x1 chip. That's a 5 year old chip. What?! Do Nintendo think it's good for another 5 years?!
@ThanosReXXX Damn it I knew there was something.
The full ritual is to wait for the stars align when the moon is in the eighth house of Aquarius, casting a shadow over the Euphrates, the earth will once again open up and inside we shall find the tribal dancers around the fire of a manticore where the rainbow will rise from the ashes and land, revealing the pot of gold. Only in this pot of gold will one of the 5 golden tickets be found to Nintendo's Wonka Factory where the mystical Switch Pro is housed in a room of a million laser beans that will cut you up before you even got an inch into the room. There is also a poodle yapping at you.
@marnelljm absolutely no reason for damage control when it comes to rumors.
@liljmoore Better audio? Bigger OLED screen? Let the market decide.
@Blue_Dread There never was a Switch Pro. This standard hardware revision was obviously in development at the same time as the Switch 2 and leakers mistakenly merged the two and thought it was one piece of hardware naming it the Switch Pro.
A 4K handheld as a mid gen refresh never made sense as handheld tech progression is limited by battery tech which moves at a snails pace. So releasing such a powerful mid gen refresh would make the Switch 2 jump completely miniscule.
The Switch 2 will have 4k output and DLSS and be out in like 2023. THAT makes sense.
People were hyping up this thing based on rumors, then turn around to be disappointed. From the start i always scalled back my expectations.
If we take time to reflect this makes Nintendo marketing sense so we can guess the Switch 2 will infact be a minor upgrade.
The Switch is Wii U level graphics, it wasn't an upgrade, it was a sidegrade whereby the tech became available to fit a Wii U into a handheld and give it a new lease.
Much like the Wii was actually a Gamecube 1.5.
Switch 2 will be a modest at most upgrade - jumping to 2010 level PCs.
If Nintendo want to make the Switch 2 look like a big jump they have to keep the current model as is.
Perfect.
@FragRed Unfortunately, EA has bought up the whole lot, so now that quest is filled with all kinds of "surprise" mechanics, yielding even smaller percentages of success...
@dani3po no bezel 😉
@RadioShadow Xbox has a complicated system of patching games for upgraded generation resolutions. Not a loss on Nintendo's end.
@GrailUK
a "new nintendo switch" would be something along the lines of what happened with 3ds which they also said something similar with. That is why people are saying "switch pro" and not "switch 2" because of the ps4 pro, which was still ps4.
im not saying this means that one is happening, but something along the lines of the new3ds wouldnt be out of character to happen.
the reason why people were expecting performance increases from the oled version was because there were people/articles/etc treating it like it was a "switch pro" which again, people were calling a theoretical upgraded model that because it was referencing what the ps4 pro was.
granted new-nintendo-switch would have been keeping more in brand but "pro" was the name that started trending, which as mentioned had people mistakenly referring to the OLED model as a "switch pro".
@ThanosReXXX b-b-b-but my pride and accomplishments
@marnelljm yeah, it's the most dumb thing ever seen. It's like watching monkeys fighting with knifes hahaha.
There's your Pro, go ahead and buy it hehehe.
@liveswired better cpu, more ram, better framework and a lot easier to program effectively, lowering the gpu load.
Yeah mate. The switch is totally the sames graphically..
You're a muppet
@TheFrenchiestFry I'd be more eager to upgrade if we were getting an OLED Lite. Smaller screen + OLED would work better than blowing up subnative games with a bigger screen.
@Ralizah Same here, As it seems pretty pointless to upgrade if you like handheld mode, and lots of people like handheld mode, Maybe they might show one off later this month?
I'm glad there isn't any real upgrade here. I don't think there's any need for it. If they can port The Witcher III to the Swithc, then they can put any game on it.
But I can't put it past Nintendo to release a real hardware upgrade in December.
This is a wah, wah (fail), Nintendo.
@Mgalens if enough click jockeys 'report' on the same rumour, it's scary how it can become expectation. I like a rumour as much as the next person, but I never give them any weight. In fact, I just file under horse manure until Nintendo announce it lol, but like to speculate with them. Each to their own. I happen to think the OLED model is really nice. I'm not going to rush out and buy one (that's for folk who haven't bought one yet!) but if I ever need to replace my current console, then I'll snap one up.
@FragRed But with every 1000th gold coin credit bundle, you WILL get a new piece of kit, or maybe, juuuuussstt maybe, a new character to play with that's actually worth his salt...
No wonder why this weren't revealed at E3.
Means Switch still will use a 7 year old Tegra.
@GrailUK Isn't that basically what has become the default behavior ever since the last couple of E3's? Rumor mongers making stuff SO big, that the gullible part of the general audience actually comes to expect these rumored things to be revealed, and when they're not, they actually get it into their shrunken brains, that they have a "right" to be angry or disappointed about Nintendo, or any other company for that matter, because of it not living up to their highly unrealistic expectations...
@FragRed yeah sure-and the regular (red box) Switch will probably be phased out in a year or so for this as the “base” model, but as for hard core fans, the vast majority of us probably aren’t upgrading. (Nintendo is probably expecting that we are-but their greed is going to come back to bite them this time)..
Been a hilarious day reading all this salt. People tweeting at Nintendo mad, insisting WAA NO 4K NOBODY IS GONNA BUY THIS THING
xD xD
Meanwhile we all know they will be sold out constantly! lol resolution obsessed weirdos go home! Your mom called! This ain't a PC!
As somebody who plays switch about 50/50 handheld and docked I only would have liked even more battery life, but I still consider this a total win.
@GrailUK
it felt like every rumour of a new switch model was called a "switch pro" even if the rumour didn't suggest any "Pro" features and it just became the catch-all term for a new switch.
oled is definitely a nice feature to have, it was a pity when newer vita models dropped it but then again vita was sadly not doing too well in the first place.
I would definitely love to see a "new nintendo switch" at some point (i imagine even a small jump in power could pick up some of the slack for some games) but had always found the constant rumour's exhausting
@JSDude1 I don’t think Nintendo care about if the hardcore fans upgrade. There’s millions of not hardcore fans Nintendo can convince to make that upgrade or jump on board and get a Switch.
@ThanosReXXX Dammit. I really need that character that kinda plays well but we all know only lasts 10 minutes before I have to get more gold coins in the hope of getting him back.
@ThanosReXXX Hahah. Seems so, mate. Everyone knew what they were doing. Bloomberg put the original article behind a paywall. Then you get circles of 'content' creators like Spawnwave who has been riding the Pro rumours ad nauseum, with his insider friends who are treated like the drug dealer everyone wants to be friends with and now being blaize about it claiming sarcastically how fun it will be to spend the next year making videos about more Pro rumours...
Can feel my iq plummeting...
@FragRed With the first 10.000 coins, you'll already earn the right to put him on the bench, and just for a measly 450.000 additional coins, you'll be able to actually use him for at least three matches.
Or, you could get a season pass for only 29.99 and have him play for an entire season. Provided he isn't snapped up by another team or gets injured, obviously...
@GrailUK Let's just throw away all of the Pro Kool-Aid, it's already been past its best before date anyways...
@westman98 Also, if price was your main concern, the Switch or Switch OLED model wouldn't even be on your radar - the Switch Life is what you would be going after.
If price is your concern, you should stay away from Nintendo completely. Everything is overpriced with Nintendo and there is no Gamepass/PS Now type service to save you money either.
Suits me as my (touch wood) original Switch should hopefully now see me through till when the Switch 2 comes out.
Which should be at least 2+ years away...
I only play docked and use the Pro Controller. Absolutely no reason to upgrade for me...
@ThanosReXXX With England playing Denmark that season pass may come in real handy 🤔
Jokes on that one guy that plays 99% dock mode and replaces his current Switch with this model.
I will get it as I play at least 80% portable and OLED + the better audio is a big deal, not to mention the much bigger battery over my v1 Switch (BOTW 3h or 5.5h is HUGE). So yeah, selling it will recover at least half the investment. Good enough for portable users, massive dissappointment for dock aficionados.
@FragRed Haha, yeah. Weird Championship as it is, already, so you may never know how it will end. Long as the Italians don't win, I'll still be relatively satisfied with the end result.
@Dezzy70 this is an excellent point that people are not talking about. The Big N is just, well... not that big. The pandemic has seemingly already hit their development resources hard, too. Developing for new hardware may have been a bridge too far right now.
What the OLED Model does offer is a bigger, better screen, enhanced audio and a redesigned dock which now includes a LAN port.
..but they removed the USB port from the back.
the leaks about the 4k stuff and the 8gb ram thing make me think this new OLED one is testing the waters on "are people willing to buy an incremental upgrade."
Since the answer will be pretty much mixed on it I hope they get the results they're looking for to really amp up the next stage of switch upgrades. I must agree with Nintendo's approach on this. Not throwing everything into the one basket might be a good idea because it is definitely more expensive to make a new cpu/gpu SOC and ram modules than a few quality of life features plus an OLED screen. Im sure making a 720p OLED screen is pretty expensive though but apparently not as much as a new SOC and having to adjust the games that exist to work there or take advantage of more ram.
@liljmoore nintendo won't do that tho 100%
@Ocaz the leaks about the 4k stuff and the 8gb ram thing make me think this new OLED one is testing the waters on "are people willing to buy an incremental upgrade."
So this didn't kill the Switch Pro rumors?
@BANJO Suits me as my (touch wood) original Switch should hopefully now see me through till when the Switch 2 comes out.
There won't be a Switch 2. Their next console will be something different from the Switch.
Nintendo Switch Semi-Pro.
@Crono1973
"If price is your concern, you should stay away from Nintendo completely. Everything is overpriced with Nintendo and there is no Gamepass/PS Now type service to save you money either."
I mean, by that measure, you'd just not buy any Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft hardware and stick with mobile games since they are nearly all free(-to-play) 😐
"So this didn't kill the Switch Pro rumors?"
Of course not. Nintendo is the same company that released 6 3DS models over its lifespan. We are currently "only" at 3 Switch models at this point (4 if you count the 2019 better battery-life model as its own model). Not saying a Switch Pro is guaranteed in the future, but I wouldn't write anything off if I were you.
@Crono1973 well there was talk about 4k and such so I'm still optimistic for it. But hopefully this means that these stories will stop coming out every day. Id like to hear about an upgraded switch when its actually real.
@onex You are a better songwriter than me.
Honestly, this is the energy I get from this Switch OLED
@westman98
It won’t kill those rumors because it drives clicks and that’s all these sites and YouTubers care about, don’t try to rationalize this with the DS and realize these people are fooling you to make money.
@westman98 I mean, by that measure, you'd just not buy any Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft hardware and stick with mobile games since they are nearly all free(-to-play) 😐
Those Free to Play games can be even more expensive than Nintendo games.
@marnelljm but what if this was nintendos intention to decimate the insider's credibility leaving them no choice but to commit seppuku or live in eternal dishonor. I'm having a hard time putting it past them nintendo ninjas. May be this was lined up for E3 but Nintendo cancelled it on purpose. It would have made perfect sense to have released it at E3. Nintendo has always been a proud company and this feels like something their management would do out of spite even.
Rumours for months: There will be a Switch hardware revision, with a 7" OLED screen, 4k output, a LAN port, and wider kickstand, and it will be revealed within a couple weeks of E3.
Nintendo, a couple weeks after E3: Here is our Switch hardware revision, with a 7" OLED screen, a LAN port, and wider kickstand.
Nintendolife commenters: WOW, so the "insiders" were wrong the whole time! Shame on Nintendolife for publishing that drivel, and shame on anyone who believed it! Look at how angry they are now! Their info was only 90% correct!
Lateral thinking with withered technology. A thought uttered by a key creator at Nintendo and later adopted by Iwata. That is Nintendo to a fault, sans GameCube. They specifically target cheap outdated hardware and flip it for a profit using gimmicks and games to entice players. So all this "in this year that hardware is unacceptable" talk clearly comes from people who haven't been paying attention.
"Nintendo confirms that a thing they didn't claim to be the case, was, in fact, not the case."
I promise you that if there were a hardware upgrade under the hood, then we'd have ended up with a split game library and people would be far more upset than they are right now.
It would make no sense to release an upgraded Switch. Any new game that took advantage of the better specs would either not work at all, or work terribly on the original. Why alienate most of the 90 million Switch owners to appease a minority obsessed with graphic power?
@Crono1973
That's only if you pay for the MTX, lootboxes, and battle passes, which you wouldn't if money is your main concern.
@TheFrenchiestFry this is literally a cash grab. There is no need to buy this at all. Same thing as the normal switch. Just a bigger screen but same output and same games
@westman98 That's only if you pay for the MTX, lootboxes, and battle passes, which you wouldn't if money is your main concern.
Free to play games are designed around MTX, lootboxes and passes so why bother playing them at all?
No performance upgrade, no sale.
So if Nvidia are retiring the Tegra X1 this year, it stands to reason Nintendo brought all remaining stock for the Switch OLED, but how long will that stock last and what will they use then? Nintendo dropped the ball by not upgrading the CPU and GPU
@Diogmites same here
As expected.
Anybody angry because the absurd rumors didn't become true should get a chill.
STOP BELIEVING BASELESS RUMORS!
@Crono1973
Because they are free, so if money is the main concern, that's where you'd go for a gaming.
No mobile game will force you to pay - instead, they will try to smartly coerce you to pay. Whether you get coerced is up to you.
They should have just called it the Switch HD, then.
Would Labo get updated with a scaled down mode for the OLED model?
Also, there is the improved battery power.
If someone is still using the older model that has limited battery power, this would be the one to update to.
I haven't updated yet, if I do this would be the one to buy.
@westman98 Nintendo is the most expensive way to play video games on a console. Microsoft has better priced hardware and Gamepass and Sony has better sale prices.
If your only defense is: 'Go play Free to Play games' then you need to go back to the drawing board.
I think this Switch is aimed at new customers who want a better portable handheld device, those who are not impressed with the smaller Switch Lite.
But this announcement for many gamers is just disappointing. Nintendo has a new market to appeal to and that's what it's doing. Nintendo is firstly a business and if it though there was more money to be made in making playing cards, they would do that.
But to me the first rule of sales is to retain your existing customer base and don't ignore them for the new one. I have not bought a single Nintendo game this year and I have money to spend, But unfinished games and full priced ports I refuse to buy unless they are at a value for money price.
I play mostly on the TV and us gamers want the big ported games to look good on the TV. I don't think the new Switch does anything for the home console Switch gamer.
I don't care about 4K at all. I do care that Nintendo first-party games run like crap on the current Switch. There's no reason that Link's Awakening should have frame dips. None. As awesome as Age of Calamity seems to be, I had to stop playing about an hour in because of the awful performance. "Graphics" may not matter but performance absolutely does. The Switch is due for a performance upgrade and it should be obvious to anyone that has played anything other than a Nintendo console.
@Crono1973
This whole conversation started when I mentioned that the Switch OLED being in the same price bracket as the PS5 Digital and Xbox Series S doesn't really matter if you want to play Nintendo games, which is the main reason why most people buy Nintendo hardware. I then offhandedly mentioned that consumers looking for the cheapest way to play Nintendo games would not even bother with the Switch or Switch OLED and would look toward the Switch Lite.
Is Microsoft the cheapest of the Big 3 overall? Probably, largely due to Gamepass (which, mind you, is a subscription service where you don't own the games and where many games leave the service after a while). But that wasn't the original point of the I was trying to say.
@westman98 You can't escape the fact that Nintendo is the most expensive place to game on consoles.
@Crono1973
If you ignore the Lite and never buy games on sale, then sure.
Wasn't the original point of my comment though.
@westman98 If you ignore the Lite and never buy games on sale, then sure.
Notice I said console gaming, the Switch Lite is 100% a handheld, not a console. Nintendo sales are a joke compared to sales and subscription services on the other consoles.
People should think of Nintendo as the most expensive console gaming option, because it is.
@Crono1973
"If price is your concern, you should stay away from Nintendo completely. Everything is overpriced with Nintendo and there is no Gamepass/PS Now type service to save you money either."
Doesn't sound like you were discounting Switch Lite from the equation at all.
@westman98 So your only defense to Nintendo being the most expensive for console gaming, is the Switch Lite (which isn't a console)?
I'm glad we agree.
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