As eager followers of forums and social media will be aware, in recent hours talk of a Nintendo Switch 'Pro' model have accelerated. Bloomberg has weighed in with a report [paywall], and our own sources support some of the same details.
The big headline for those desperate to see the new hardware is that it's expected to be revealed before E3 - Bloomberg reports that this is to allow major third-parties to showcase a full range of titles during the upcoming event. That means, provided the reports are accurate, any time in the next two weeks.
Manufacturing is expected to begin fully in July, with a targeted launch of September or October, which would also allow the system to hit the busiest shopping period of the year.
Intriguingly, Bloomberg's report suggests two key things - that the new model will replace the current standard model (with the older iteration being phased out), and then be sold along with the Lite system. The report anticipates that the new model will have a price increase over the current $299USD, though Nintendo could arguably do this and pitch the Lite as the portable-only affordable option. As previously rumoured, Bloomberg's report claims the new system will be capable of 4K output when docked.
In terms of potential manufacturing challenges, as seen with PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S, suppliers are reportedly confident that the system can be produced in significant numbers. This may be due to the hardware using relatively bespoke parts - it'll reportedly have an upgraded NVIDIA GPU, and as previously stated a 7-inch Samsung OLED display. However, it will nonetheless remain a priority to secure resources for full manufacturing, with parts such as Bluetooth chips apparently one potential bottleneck.
There's certainly momentum to these reports and multiple sources doing the rounds, so perhaps the time for a new Switch system is finally very close. Let us know what you think in the comments!
[source bloomberg.com]
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Wow! There have been no rumours about this so far!
Please just announce it. We will all buy one lol.
That'd be preferable. Nintendo's mid-gen upgrades are always underwhelming and the last thing the E3 presentation needs is a huge chunk dedicated to it. Just games, please.
Games still better work on my current switch.
in before the people with their heads in the sand
Well , if true, we have not long to wait for the reveal.
All I gotta say is that I'll buy it if it ever materialized.
We've heard every and anything about the "Switch Pro" for a while now and I'm just ready to see an actual product.
I suppose this makes sense, it would mean Nintendo can, if they want to, show off how well their new games will run on the new Switch during E3.
I'm not interested in a slight visual upgrade. The only way I would buy this is if it can handle current gen ports without the downgrades and can run exclusive games at a steady 60FPS
@Luigisghost669 I'd say they will - they're keeping the Lite around so it's most likely all games will have to be compatible with the Lite (which means they'll work on the original Switch too). I really doubt they'd sell the Lite and the Pro and not have all games work on both.
We'll see. We've been hearing rumors about a Switch Pro since before we heard rumors about the Switch Lite. With that said, the likelyhood of it being real is extremely high due to the fact that Nintendo always releases a revision of their handhelds.
Also, I'm seeing a rumor that we'll get info tomorrow/later today. Coming from a reaction that Emily Rogers made to a conversation that Direct Feed Games had on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/1397808183381528578
@presenttense correction, we will all TRY to buy one. No doubt there will be stock issues and scalpers again.
I always said Breath of the wild 2 could probably take advantage of an upgraded switch system, have it running better. I’d be happy for an updated system
Well they got like two weeks to do that so weal see.
This sounds like the most significant rumour so far. I would definitely get one. I bought my Switch on the day it was released and it's a lil creaky now but obvs still would want to play all my games (of which I've completed maybe half). Could give the original to my niece or keep as a spare so I'M IN! That would explain why we'd seen nothing of Metroid 4 and it had to be 'started again'.
When there's smoke,...
Okay, then it makes totally sense why Skyward Sword HD is running with 60 fps. That could be footage of the Pro model, with OG Switch running it at 30 fps 😣
Not sure how true these rumours are but I guess I better be prepared to pre-order one at a moment's notice just in case. Would prefer not to have to wait months after launch if I can avoid it.
@Luigisghost669 They will work on new console for sure.
There is no way they are abandoning current library.
I will buy day one if I can get my hands on one. One of the things from a graphical stand point that really bugs me is the formation of the landscape and pop in you see in BOTW. Really hated it. Hoping the new machine can reduce this issue somewhat. Prettier games with steady frame rates are always welcome
If they phase out the current model, then it's not even a Pro.
This is just a refresh, like the one with extended battery.
Considering that Dragon Quest XII platform cannot be mentioned yet is intriguing.
Secondly, I heard that bots have already purchased the Switch Pro’s from now until June 2023 so goodluck finding one.
It is also rumored to have the same Tegra X1 chip as the current one and it will upscale games to 4K.
So yeah..
source (Dutch): https://tweakers.net/nieuws/182174/nintendo-brengt-nieuwe-versie-van-switch-console-in-september-of-oktober-uit.html
So not a "Pro" Switch but an updated one. (Like the Redbox) - There will be no exclusive games (luckily).
4k sounds nice and all and would funnily enough be my first 4k console (aside from PC) but I would much rather just have nicer visuals and frame rates on existing titles. Just an overall cleanup of the more demanding titles like Monster Hunter Rise or the Xenoblades. Really just anything that natively renders at 900p or below I'd like to be bumped to 1080p and things that run at 30fps bumped to 60fps within reason.
"Bloomberg reports it'll replace current model, which will be 'phased out"
This, I see as a problem. Assuming that this is true and that the 'Switch Pro' will be more expensive, this means that there won't be a middle option anymore. People either have to choose between the cheap(er) Lite, sacrifising docked play, or the new 'Pro' with its much more expensive price tag.
Before E3? Doubtful. After E3 more likely.
My current switch body is ready for an upgrade!
If they make a Switch with many different parts than the current model I bet they will mess it up and not have enough stock just like the PS5 ... therefore it will be scalped
The only fix that is needed is about the JoyCons.
I'm pretty certain the same thing was said last year...and the year before that...lol
@Slowdive DLSS is still not happening. This is a Christmas wish. If anything, this will be the same upscaling than PS4 Pro (so, not much good)
I still have my launch Switch and the drift has been driving me crazy. It's time for an upgrade, Nintendo.
Here we go again. And if it's "expected before E3", that would be less than a fortnight from now - what appeal is there in flushing down more of this site's reputation alongside Bloomberg's for an alleged event that you are assuming to be a reportable fact in a matter of days anyway?
r/Tomorrow, r/Tomorrow everywhere...
@Chamver even Switch Pro prophets never "predict" drift elimination - partly because 4K BotW and model-exclusive Cyberpunk seem to be the wetter dreams and partly because DualSense drift cases have driven it home that we really have a component market issue. Until the latter gets solved...
Déjà vu to the days of «Wii HD» vs PS3 and Xbox 360.
I'm ready. My body is ready. My wallet is ready. Let's do this already.
Oh boy I wonder where we've heard this before?
Also, why are we still listening to Bloomberg?
They've been irrelevant for years.
@nhSnork People don't seem to realise that if they had a way to fix the drift, they would have done so by now. There's no way they would continue to sell Joy-Cons with drift if they didn't have to.
Unless there are first-party exclusive games for this new iteration of Switch, I see no reason to upgrade.
My body is ready but my wallet is not ready. Goddamit Nintendo not now.
Switch XL joins the battle!
@MatoFilipovic And if there are exclusive games for the pro, I will be a bit annoyed. The Switch Lite is also still new, yet if there are pro exclusives, may not be able to play them. It just kinda sends a "we don't really care about you" to users of the original and the lite.
I probably won't bother upgrading unless there's an exclusive Advance Wars Switch Pro only to be released.
I just want that rumoured 7 inch screen!
@Slowdive
Wait, you mean they have all talked about here-say for a fictitious console?
An we know it will release alongside BOTW2 because Jeff Grub, someone who as far as I can see has no relation to Ninty, says so.
What a crazy world.
There is a huge assumption and disregard how difficult it will be to output 4k from a marginally upgraded console. At best this will be new 3ds all over again, it won't have exclusives.
An lets say it does have a bigger screen, no way in hell it's phasing out the current switch.
@lighteningbolt79
They won't do this, just look at the history of prior consoles from Ninty and others, it explains it all.
They will just run better.
@lighteningbolt79 exactly. They even revised NDS's initial design pretty soon, and polishing the features of the initial 3DS model was a thing through most of the 3DS production cycle. Here, we have drift complaints in OG, in 2019 model, in Lite, occasionally in Pro Controllers... and recently plain outside Nintendo territory with the aforesaid DualSense. It's definitely an issue they would've addressed ages ago if they had anything to address it with.
@Rosona "New Nintendo 3DS Exclusives".
There wasn't many of them, but they existed.
The last thing we need is Nintendo abandoning focus on quality for the regular Switch models.
This approach makes sense to be honest. They reveal the console along with a small amount of footage, tease a few things and by the time we get to their E3 direct hype is at a fever pitch. They then drop some big game reveals and reveal their lineup for the year.
Pinch of salt
Great, so will this mean Switch pro (Watch them call it "New Switch" or something ) exclusives? Or games which just-about-work on the old one, but to run properly need the Switch pro? (Like "Hyrule warriors" for 3DS)
If either of those is true, i will be very annoyed...
I must admit I’d discounted a Switch Upgrade (I’m not going to predict its name, but I like Plus more than Pro) this year. Nintendo must be feeling confident. The battle between the consoles this year isn’t about specs or software exclusives, it’s all about supply chain management and the ability to deliver product into consumers hands.
@Slowdive DLSS is barely in two dozen games in PC and not even on Nvidia own hardware.
There will be "an" upscaling but nowhere near as performant, nor using that specific PC-aimed brand
@F_T_Wolf How do you know how much more expensive it would be?
This would be a pretty decent set of E3 announcements: Switch Pro announced, N64 added to online service, and several high profile NES and SNES games that have been conspicuously missing from the service to be stealth during or shortly after E3. Obligatory prayer for Mother 3 (or maybe something new for the series?)
Scalpers at the ready...
Announced: May 2021
"Available": October 2021
Average person in the street can buy one: July 2024
@presenttense
Well, when a Console launches you can say that there will be at least a Revision and be right from the Beginning
The NES had it + Upgrade for Disks, the SNES + Satalleview and nearly also CDs, the N64 had revisions and a "pro" Version with the Expansion pack (higher Resolution/framerate for Games) and if we look to their handhelds haha
So all those Rumors are boring.
Preparing to be underwhelmed.
@GrailUK its true we all buy it
@Kamalen @Slowdive
DLSS is Nvidia only, playstation and xbox don't use those chips.
DLSS 2.0 only launched in April last year, so it's not going to be widely adopted yet, but a company as big as Nintendo putting it into their hardware is great for game developers.
@gcunit
I don't. That the 'Switch Pro' will be more expensive then the current model Switch is an assumption. We'll have to see if this is true (which I think is likely considering the components) and if so, how much more expensive exactly.
Shuntaro Furukawa was asked whether the company would announce an upgraded model of the Switch. His response: "Not anytime soon".FEB 1 2021
So Nintendo are LIARS?!?!?!!!!!!!!! That can’t be true. They said it wasn’t coming. I don’t believe in rumours. Nintendo’s my best friend. Why would they want more of my monies?
If the rumoured Pro does end up being a significant upgrade in terms of power and graphics, I’m probably going to pre-order one for launch day. Fingers crossed it is fully compatible with current joy-cons, though! I got really into controller mods over lockdown - I have made myself a sakura pink pair with white buttons and am currently working on making a set of metallic gold Zelda joy-cons with white buttons and Hylian decals (in the style of the Skyward Sword 25th anniversary WiiMote that came out 10 years ago). I’d be so bummed if I could only use them in docked mode after all that work!
@Mr-Fuggles777 your asking for essentially an Xbox Series X or PS5 but in a portable size with a built in screen. That's not realistic, and even if it was possible it wouldn't be affordable.
@MarioBrickLayer true, nvidia rules, xbox and ps use amd.
nvidia having better speed(ghz) take like nvidia graphic cards
doing faster reload on pc
@brunojenso And this is why people will be disappointed. They aren't realistic in their expectations and then go on to blame Nintendo despite the fact they could never have lived up to the unrealistic expectations.
@GrailUK I probably won’t buy one (yet) as I don’t have a 4K TV (yet). But if this is a replacement for the OG switch, rather than a premium version, it suggests the rumours about production of the X1+ Tegra SoCs is on the money. In which case I’d expect the Lite to be replaced as well, next year maybe March time? And I’d probably get that new Lite
Scalpers will be ready for this, I need a new Switch and I'm holding for Pro.
Hopefully new games will also be available on the original Switch, and there won't be any Pro exclusives. I'm unwilling to upgrade to a slightly improved Switch.
@tallennart yeah, and with what Nintendo want to do, you wouldn't need some crazy card going into the machine.
I can't see Nintendo putting it in the machine if they aren't going to support it. Maybe they also cover the costs of some existing 3rd party games getting a DLSS update such as Doom and The Witcher?
On your marks scalpers...
@Xiovanni
Age of Calamity is a special case though. Keep in mind, this game was developed with setbacks from COVID-19. They had every opportunity to delay the game a bit more to polish the frame rate and resolution, but they never bothered.
They said it would be announced before E3 but they never said which E3. Probably another 4 more years so.
@lighteningbolt79 beat me to it...
Although it does kinda stretch the definition of “exclusive” when 6 of the 7 games in question are also on at least 1 other system, including the handheld Switch (Binding of Isaac, Minecraft, Runbow, Fire Emblem Warriors, Xenoblade Chronicles and Dragon Fang Z), and the other one is available on Steam, Google and Apple stores...
But yeah, there’s 7 3DS games that won’t play on OG 3DS systems.
Here we go again, I just want to see the thing a this point, there is a new rumor every week.
@lighteningbolt79 yup. I wish people would stop using the 'pro' mokier as that is also leading to unrealistic expectations. 'Pro' isn't Nintendos style - they've never been very interested in specs. I'm hoping they'll do something classically unexpected that people will be happy with despite thinking they want a Switch sized PS5. Tech wise I'd be happy if portable mode match's docked modes performance for all games and has a 1080p screen. That's realistic. Also I'd like to see a dockable Switch that is lighter than the current model. NOT a bigger screen. This is already a huge and slightly too heavy handheld.
@Slowdive
Fair play to your last line but I just have to add one thing, you say about All Stars but it wasn't exactly a hard thing to predict so I wouldn't say that makes his word gospel.
@lighteningbolt79
That's exactly my point, they done 2 games, only 2 and never done it again. They realised it doesn't work pricing out your existing customer base, same for every other console manufacturer.
Your paying for some enhanced performance which can be negligible at times.
That's what will happen.
I can’t envisage it being all new hardware with exclusive games, that wouldn’t make sense. I’m guessing a complete revision with a bigger, better screen and improved processors etc. in which case I won’t upgrade, had my Switch since day one and it’s still like new.
Obviously if it is something new, a next generation, so to speak, then I’ll no doubt buy it.
@Rosona Well one reason why they haven't done it again is because they haven't released an updated console since. The Wii U didn't have a "Pro" version.
I just want a Switch TV with DLSS
New Nintendo Switch Deluxe Family Computer. Doug already told me. It comes with Mario Paint and a mouse, has a colour screen and outputs stereo.
At best this is going to be an underwhelming mid-gen upgrade like the New 3DS or DSi. Let’s not get hopes up.
I fully believe there is a slightly more powerful Switch model releasing within the next 12 months
@brunojenso I'm not saying I want a handheld PS5 but everyone is asking for a 4k Switch when the current model can't even handle 60 FPS @ 1080p - Look at Monster Hunter Rise it only just scrapes by in HD docked. What is a 4k upscale going to do without a significant power boost to aid performance.
As for price, The series S is already cheaper than the current Switch and if Nintendo increase the price by even 20% the new one is going to creep up towards the Series X and PS5.
I would rather pay more and have something that is worth playing on than a £300 console that spends more time sat in the drawer than in use, like my current Switches do.
@Mr-Fuggles777 I think you are in a minority though. Most people who have a Switch play it. I couldn't care less about the specifications as long as the games work, which they do.
@beazlen1
New 3DS and NDSi were substantial upgrades compared to the standard 3DS and NDS respectively.
"Before E3" would essentially have to be next week, because by the week after that any announcement is blurring into E3 announcements anyway.
@Mr-Fuggles777 That's a really good point and I think that's where DLSS comes in. If they can get the hardware to run at 720p (HH) and 1080p (docked) at a solid 60FPS, that is a huge improvement and with DLSS over the top for those developers who wish to make use of it Nintendo would be in a great position to be compared with the PS5 + XBOX
@Luigisghost669 I feel you bro. I can't afford to buy a new console, man.
With Nintendo's 'massive' firmware updates and Switch Online game announcements, I'm expecting something like:
"New" Nintendo Switch
Just kidding, I will be buying it day one. Whenever the release day is.
Come on Nintendolife, why do you say this rumour comes from Bloomberg and then later in the article state that you have other sources stating the same. What about you? Do you not consider yourself worthy enough against the likes of Kate and Bloomberg!
Stand up for what your reporting, unless you suggest we use these other sources instead?
@MarioBrickLayer the best we could hope for for a switch Pro would be a steady 30fps upscaled to 1080 and possibly 60 fps upscaled to1440 (at a push).
We will be nearer the PS4 and Xb1 than current gen I reckon. I'm hoping the new switch doesn't have exclusives that won't run on the Lite, and if it does why didn't Nintendo just make a full on upgraded Switch 2
@lighteningbolt79 I think snes games were exclusive, which I considered a greedy move from Nintendo. Xenoblade also and some downloadable games like binding of Isaac. I think that was it. There was also rule warriors, that should have been a new 3ds exclusive because it didn't really work properly on the original 3ds.
I hope the Switch Pro comes with virtual console.
@dew12333 "why do you say this rumour comes from Bloomberg and then later in the article state that you have other sources stating the same. What about you?"
Good journalism quotes its sources of information where possible, so we know they're not just inventing stories.
How can NintendoLife write an article like this without a source, if the writer did not get this information first hand? NintendoLife are reporting what others are claiming and you can judge for yourself whether those sources are reliable.
I am happy with my current Switch, so I won't upgrade anytime soon. As long as there are no exclusives (keeping the Lite seems to indicate that), I am fine with the upgrade and I understand why some people are looking forward to it.
It all depends on price for me. My Switch was my console of choice when it first launched, but since then I've started buying multiplatform games on either PC or PS5 instead. If this new Switch can bridge the performance difference enough then I'll be on board, for sure.
why Nintendo would release another Switch model and phase out the current Switch model, when it still selling well with no sight of slowing down? something fishy is going on here, please Nintendo don't make Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2, Metroid Prime 4 e Bayonetta 3 exclusive for this rumored Switch model.
So we'll have this supposed Switch Pro, and the current Lite model? If this is true, I hope we don't start seeing games designed exclusively for the Switch Pro.
Wow if only there had been more rumors about this.
@Giancarlothomaz,
If anything this will be a revision with upgrades, and will replace the current model rather than run alongside it.
Similar to when they improved the battery life and slight chip performance on the original console.
@F_T_Wolf
People worried about price just need to get over it as honestly $399 isn't a lot of money anymore, especially for device upgrades every 4-5 years.
If a poor 15 year old kid (at the time in 1995) like me with no job could swing a Sega Saturn and Virtual Boy (with games) with odd jobs, then any kid or adult determined to have a new Switch will eventually get one.
If not, they can grab the current model or Lite and be satisfied with that until the new one gets cheaper or the next upgrade comes out in another 4-5 years.
I'm probably gonna sit it out for several months. You know these are gonna be almost impossible to get ahold of for a while following launch. Anyway, it'd be amazing if several games were patched to take advantage of the newer hardware. I'm thinking specifically of the Bethesda first person shooters, the Sniper Elite games, etc. I actually could see the Sniper Elite games getting patches. Rebellion seems very dedicated to making sure their games take advantage of the newest hardware.
@Mountain_Man Interesting point about the Lite. I would imagine a new model of Switch would have to include a full version and a Lite version. Having a standard Lite version and a more powerful full version on the market seems like it would make the Lite pretty unappealing to most people.
Wait... wasn't it Bloomberg who said that the Switch will fail and Nintendo should stop making consoles?
@Giancarlothomaz "why Nintendo would release another Switch model and phase out the current Switch model, when it still selling well"
If it's not a huge price jump, those who want a Switch will just buy the updated model. If the old one is getting phased out, Nintendo will drop the price a bit for a bargain.
The current game library isn't going anywhere. They're not going to invest all that effort in branding, Wii U ports and Switch Online etc just to start from scratch all over again with an incompatible console. It's way too soon for that.
I doubt there will be exclusive games on the new model (or very few). I think the new model will just provide a faster and smoother experience. It also makes sense not to have exclusives if they're still keeping the Switch Lite.
Now for the big question... who do I place my preorder with, after the farce we witnessed with PS5?!
Amazon... Best in terms of getting their pre-orders live in a timely manner thus better chance I actually get to place one, but delivery was dodgy on PS5.
GAME... Will also get pre-orders up promptly, but will probably make me buy a bundle to secure one with at least 2 games I don't want... (or worse, already have!)... also have dodgy deliveries...
Nintendo Store... Will take an eternity to get their pre-order live, thus making it risky to secure one as could be at anytime of any day.... Will likely have some exclusive merchandise, but its essentially tat... Will use the best delivery.
Decisions decisions....
@Luigisghost669 better than what? The switch pro? How do you know that?
My only trepidation is the scalpers... if I don't get the updated console on launch, I will be breaking a chain since the Wii & I will be saaaaaaaaaad
@Giancarlothomaz i dont work at nintendo but can maybe give you a reason. Keeping an old soc costs money prolly even more then just using a new one. It just is the way how tech works. Nvidia is not keen on producing the old tegra when they already have a newer version.
I also reckon nintendo wants to give the switch a bit more power and with the series x and ps5 around you need to be fast. You just cant decide that tomorrow you will mass produce this kind of thing.
As long as all of my eshop purchases can easily be moved over then I'm up for it.
I'm not gonna get ornery about the rumors like some do on here. If it happens, great. I'll probably upgrade to one if it's a real, significant upgrade. If it doesn't, life will go on.
@westman98 ok yes some significant improvements - those expected in a midgen refresh and I expect the same with the Switch. 4k output with DLSS I certainly don’t expect! That’s coming in the Ultra Switchy4 in 2025 -the true successor.
Well it seems that the Lite's safe, so I'm good ;D
Seriously though, give us a shout out Nintendo.
Can anyone see that Nintendo are the king of the end times? They are acting differently from Sony and microsoft, and quite differently too. Why? Well, they are on a different agenda. They have acted somewhat stupid with the switch in certain aspects. The thing doesn't have messaging system for goodness sake.
Switch Pro: now featuring a rubber nub and extra shoulder buttons that very few games will utilise!
How about a rumor that Nintendo plans to consistency release games that aren’t ports? They milked the Wii U port cow dry how in the world is a “Switch Pro” going to improve this? Switch still hasn’t shown the promise of having all their devs teams working on the same platform.
These are such annoying articles. Nobody actually knows jerk-what. But yeah lets just listen to what bloomberg has to say..
Those who followed Nintendo Switch reports and development clearly knew this was coming sooner then later but we always seem to have NintenDoomed fandom thinking they know more then Nintendo but guess they clearly got it wrong and can't admit they were wrong about everything including their own life.
They will call it Switch XL for sure.
I'll be a sucker and buy this new Switch after not using my current one for like 2 years...
I'll throw my 2 pence into the wishing well and predict that the Switch may very well go the same way as the Xbox. That is, an all singing all dancing mainline model - and a supporting budget model. Both being able to play the exact same games, albeit differing frame rates, install sizes, and resolutions. A genius approach. The same games but two totally different economic lines. If this is indeed the decision, then Sony is the odd one.
You'd think Nintendolife would learn after 20 times of it not being true.
This just isn’t going to happen. Anything else?
I am so turned off by the current switch with never ending joy-con drift problems I have, regardless of replacing the sticks, the drift comes back 4-6 months again, and now the joy-cons disconnecting, even when physically attached, loose connection to the system, and I am keep having to reattach while playing portably. This is by far the most unreliable system Nintendo has produced and I'm VERY hesitant on buying an "upgrade" unless these problems are addressed. Also, I'm tired of seeing most of the AAA games I'm interested in, skip the Nintendo Switch due to it being technically underpowered.
Hopefully there won't be any exclusives to this new model - though Nintendo does seem to have a habit of doing so (I guess to better justify it's existence).
If there aren't, I won't bother with it. I don' t have a 4K TV, plus I already have a PS5 and a Series X.
If there are exclusives, I'll have to wait and see what those exclusives will be before I consider a purchase.
@Prizm I don't see Kate and Bloomberg revealing their sources, but I do understand what your saying.
I just don't trust other outlets with this kind of information and expect Nintendolife to listen to whoever and when they feel it has traction then they will report it here.
I'd need a decently significant performance upgrade to justify the price. I have a Switch Lite as I mostly favor handheld play, but I wouldn't mind a dockable option.
Still, the thought of 4k doesn't interest me in the least, I just want it to be able to run third-party games decently. I'm a little tired of regretting I didn't buy a game for my Xbox instead when I see the Switch performance...
I've seen this movie before. Not getting excited until I hear something from Nintendo.
@Kamalen And the same drift issues probably...
Would need to ne a serious improvement in nearly every aspect for me to consider upgrading my switch. Better resolution, better joy cons (i would imagine they will be using the same fault prone ones they use now) and more bells and whistles such as native connectivity for wireless ear phones.
I really like my Animal Crossing Special Edition Switch system. I hope that Nintendo won't segregate their username and make games only playable on the new system because I don't really need a Switch "Pro." All the games I want to play, my existing Switch handles perfectly fine. Not everybody has 4K televisions. I hope whatever new games come out for the Switch systems will be playable on ALL models.
@AnalogWave Judging by stock, Series S is a mistake. Despite Microsoft making more Series X than Series S, it's extremely easy to find Series S meanwhile the Series X sells out in like 10 minutes.
Another week, another Switch pro rumour.
Not "buying" the rumour
It better has 2 screens, everything is going dual screens now. I need to play some 3DS remastered games.
@Grumblevolcano I think it's far too early to tell whether it was a mistake, or not. Time will give us that answer in due course. But as someone who has both Xbox consoles under their roof, the difference between them (so far) is negligible, and very much dependent on the screen you are using them with.
@LinkSword And please not games somehow exclusive to this "Switch Pro". I don't need to want to buy another Switch.
@AnalogWave don't Nintendo already have two models of different lines? The original Switch with dock and the Switch Lite
@BrintaPap I think Luigisghost669 was referring to compatibilty rather than performance
@BrintaPap I think you're correct about the money argument for upgrading the SoC. Nvidia/TSMC can probably make more money using the 16nm nodes to produce automotive components for silly prices. I'm also hoping the Lite will get an upgrade next year as well
If this is true I will literally scream, why, you ask? Because I literally JUST bought a replacement Switch.
It's about time they come up with an upgrade man. My Switch battery can't handle it no more, and the joy con analogue has a mind of its own. Quickly get the upgrade out this year!
Not buying it until MK9 comes out for the Switch....
@TSR3 Very true. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding, there's no significant power (such as frames per second) difference between.
Unless it has significant performance improvements, I’m happy with what I have.
Just call it the Super Nintendo Switch
Sick of this news already so I hope they just announce it and then we can focus on software from hereon out. I am happy with my v2 and lite. Don't give a care about 4k gaming (I don't even have a monitor or tv for it) and if I did might as well get a decent pc build for that.
C'mon man! I just got my hands on the regular Switch. Now this?!
Now they say it might be announced during the day. Today!!
Oh boy, I can't wait to either be forced to pay $1000 for one of these from a scalper or wait a few years until it's actually available at retail.
@Harmonie you will give Nintendo your money.
@LinkSword GBA and DS Lite were underwhelming?
I watched this evolve this morning from switch pro will be announced at e3, to announced ahead of e3, to announced today
These Switch Pro rumours don't make any business sense to me. I get that hardcore gamers want one, but the Switch is still selling extremely well, so why would Nintendo release a new version right now? The smart thing to do would be to wait until sales of the current Switch start to plateau/slow down, then release the Pro to stimulate a new round of buying.
Wish you would challenge anonymous sources of rumours - this is click bait
@Joeynator3000 yea.....but......it's different cus it's THIS year now.....
The NX Pro will have the following display themes: black, white, and gray!
People’s expectations are already way, WAY too high. It’s kind of alarming.
This goes with something I was thinking. E3 will be about whatever games first, then a possible(if it comes out this year) pro direct in August/September. Still enough time to get interest drummed up for Christmas sales.
Would love for this to be true. If so, I'm concerned about the late manufacturing date with all of the demand on next gen consoles. But if they can reach their goals (and they are high) I'd love to buy one and preorder asap.
@AnalogWave without getting into details, an undocked OG Switch and a Switch Lite will have similar performance (IIRC the main difference is battery life). My guess is an undocked new Switch ‘pro/plus/xl’ will have similar performance to a docked OG Switch
If this is true and the plan is to launch it around the holiday season later this year then the PS5 and Xbox would had no chance of winning the holiday rush. The Switch already had some big games ready for the holiday with more probably plan to be coming soon so if this Switch Pro if that's what they'll call it, launch around the holiday rush then people would be lining up to get that over the other two systems. Of course like all rumors the salt is still salty with this one, Nintendo's holiday is already tight as it is without a new model to worry about.
@Luigisghost669 Nah I don't expect it to be.. just look at New 3DS. Personally don't mind exclusive games for Switch Pro if it means that we will get a much better hardware
I was wondering when the next "New Switch" rumor would pop up. I wish someone would keep a counter to track all the times Bloomberg made this claim in the past.
I mean eventually there will inevitably be a followup to the Switch that will qualify as a "New" switch. They will then claim they broke the story, but ignore the fact they claimed it monthly (sometimes weekly) for the past two years.
If it's a model that fixes some of the frame rate issues, has a better display on the TV and allows for better accessories like new joycons, I'll pick it up. I hope this can resolve the issue of many games not coming out day and date for the console. While third party support for the Switch is the best Nintendo has had since the Super NES, it's still annoying when big games aren't announced for the console or come out 6-12 months later. It Takes Two, Mass Effect Trilogy and Biomutant are three recent games that should be on the Switch.
Sooner it comes out, the sooner I can retire my launch Switch. It sounds like a 747 upon boot up.
I just hope the preorder for it is better than Sony or Microsoft. Bots will be all over this.
Hope it has Bluetooth support.
@ermzzz Nintendo's hand is likely being forced. NVIDIA's old chip is probably being discontinued and if Nintendo wants to continue manufacturing Switch units, they had to start using the new chip. That's my take on it.
well that sounds great now lets get MK9 please
Well now, this potentially makes my thoughts of BoTW2 slipping to 2022 totally wrong. Maybe it launches earlier than I expected with the new model...that'd be one heck of a launch title for it.
It's too bad they likely won't have any special editions at launch. I want to upgrade, but only for a Zelda model.
My 4 year old Switch battery has me inclined to say, my money is ready. It's way too easy to use 10-15% of Switch battery just to browse eshop with brightness at 15-20%. I imagine some other people with launch Switch batteries could be worse since I've mainly played docked.
@HaNks i would like MK9 to be a Double Dash 2.
I seriously doubt Nintendo would straight up replace the current Switch with a more expensive one. The current Switch is selling well, why get rid of it? If the "Switch Pro" does in fact replace the current model, I don't think it'll be as much of an upgrade as people are hoping for
Oh boy, new Nintendo hardware announced in the next 2 weeks....preorders when? This is going to get ugly.....and I'd really like to secure two, but the idea of a higher price tag + scalpers is frightening me. Wonder if it includes the power brick?
@redd214 Here we go again.....hold me.
You too, @jaxonh. I know you'll be ordering before they even open orders....tag me somewhere if you see it go live, I'll probably miss it if it's a random drop!
another bs rumor seriously people shouldnt be hyping this at all especially since theres no concrete proof its happening.
@kingbk interesting thought. It would not surprise me at all. But given that it is four years old, in terms of power, what would be today’s equivalent of a chip that’s four years old? Really, probably closer to five or even six years old if u consider the development.
Would it be possible that Nintendo actually releases a much more powerful chip, but not unlock extra power for developers until later? If they are not manufacturing this chip, how much sense would it make to only have a slightly more powerful iteration?
Man, I Hope so!
We have been trying to get a second Switch in our household.
A) ether overpriced
B) not available
Definitely will be a buy for us!
Come on people.....Look at Nintendo's recent comments (this year) and that will indicate their trajectory. They said the Switch is still in its prime....meaning they are not going to take a system that has sold over 80M and they predicted would sell 26M more this fiscal year and just piss on it by offering something new that splits the base. It will more sensibly fit within the Switch ecosystem.
They said prior to the Switch launch that they wanted to create a gaming platform that was more like mobile in that multiple iterations and 'generations' of hardware could run the same software.
They signed a 10yr deal with NVIDIA, have now made NVIDIA wildly successful in the console gaming arena (which NV was desperately trying to do for years) and then went with the well established and reliable X1. DLSS was probably designed with Nintendo in mind as its a tech that allows impressive super sampling while keeping the CPU/GPU power minimal.
So no....I don't believe they are going to fracture their own market. The Switch has already 'trained' developers to get their games to run at different resolutions and largely ushered in the era of dynamic scaling resolution. Just expect more of the same. A game comes out, runs in 540p-720p in handheld, runs in 720-1080p in docked, maybe Super Switch (I like that) can run the games at current docked resolutions in handheld and then hit true 1080P with DLSS faking 4K in docked. So the same game is just going to run in different resolution on different devices. At this point in the gaming tech power proposition it takes big leaps to make fairly small jumps in visible output. There is not going to be a big leap in Switch because where is the mobile SOC (that would already have to be developed and in production) out there that would be needed to produce a true leap?
Being an evil modder I have played extensively with overclocking on my OG Switch (particularly docked). Many Switch games are 'borderline' for the current hardware and just upping the X1 clocks to max can make a noticeable difference in games like BOTW or others that use dynamic scaling. So even if they just used the new Mariko X1 and boosted clocks to closer to max users will see some nice improvements with existing games.
I would expect something like that.....revised X1 with higher clocks and DLSS imbedded. Bigger brighter OLED screen, maybe a bump in system ram (to accommodate higher texture counts for DLSS supporting games), hopefully more NAND memory (32GB is pathetic....128/256GB would be better). It would be really nice if it is dock and joycon compatible with current models. I don't think they are going to overly distort their price point either. Maybe $350 but I would be surprised if they go much higher as again they predicted 26M unit sales based on the current price structure. I hope the rumors are true but either way I more hope that we get some of the major developments we know have been in the cooker.
i recently had to upgrade my original nintendo switch to the slightly updated SKU due to heating issues and scream warping issues. it might be too soon to upgrade to a newer model; mostly since i have the animal crossing edition of the Nintendo Switch. however, it will be good to have a spare unit or a gift for someone in need.
@brunojenso good question why any console is called Pro?
I guess I can take it to work and make money with with it. lol
@NEStalgia yeah scalpers are going to have a field day with these I'm sure initially. Can't be any worse than the PS5 market thats for sure!
When Nintendo announces it I'll believe It
@redd214 It's Nintendo. The home of intentionally manufactured scarcity. It can be worse!
Like a broken record, I'm hear to voice my opinion that all I want is Joycons that don't drift! That's all. 4K is nice....I don't care. Nicer screen.....I don't care. All I truly want is a control system that doesn't breakdown and need repaired or replaced in less then 6 months.
I doubt it get's announced prior to E3 though! I think they're wrong about that.
Looking forward to this. It won't take much to get me to pre-order as soon as they go up. I'm always wanting my Nintendo games to be at their best when played, so there is no resisting. I'd buy a non-portable version for it, myself.
Please set your expectations, folks. I'd wager the timing is real, maybe I am just biased from the Apple world where Mark Gurman, now at Bloomberg has an almost perfect record of rumors with amazing detail, but this seems solid. (The odd timing claim of before E3 is something you would have to be very sure about to report on, for instance.)
I'd wager that In less than two weeks we will be discussing Nintendo's presentation of the new system and whether it is worthwhile.
I'm always going to be more excited about the actual games, though.
@Sinton Wii HD was Wii U. Unfortunately Nintendo got so lazy riding the Wii wave they left it too late, it crashed and they failed to launch on time, with exotic hardware and having to play catchup in developing HD games. The Wii U was a learning process.
They don't want to make the same mistake twice.
@liveswired Three times, you mean, maybe? SNES to N64 was similar, deciding to wait rather than make the CD with Sony work. I bet there are more.
The Wii U was a tough, tough, lesson though, and I think your point stands.
(Hmm... but the Playstation was probably a harsher lesson... )
It must hurt the bungwhole to know Switch is now a Player but was always a player but people keep grabbing for straws without realize Tech gets smaller and smaller and keeps moving on and never looks back except for Historic preservation values. This is the part where people with closed mindset about knowing what Innovation means aren't in the NIN R&D to Production are in.
Don't you love it to see your old-ass graphics blown up on a 4K screen...no, it will be a much stronger system. A Switch2. Of course it replaces the current Switch, but it also replaces Switch Lite. The current Switch has had its lifespan, sadly. All the games revealed at E3 will be for the Switch2.
I know nobody believes it, it doesn't matter. As long as I believe it. We will see...
@Henmii like I mentioned tech moves on and gets smaller and better but from reading all the NintenDoomed fandom you would think NIN wasn't in that field of Innovation.
Bollocks. At most this will be revision like mariko.
My son cracked the screen of my current OG switch (otherwise fine). I am itching to buy a new replacement and give him that one but I would prefer to wait for a new model with more than better battery life.
I have an older brother who doesn't have is own switch, BUT he would totally be willing to buy a switch Pro if it were to come out. He would especially buy it if it had even better battery life than before, along with the 4K graphics.
@aaronsullivan yea, that's good ole Nintendo for you lol.
I think with the fade out of Yamuchi era staff, with their ego stroking and blind hate of other manufacturers, including partners and consumers has finally disappeared.
@liveswired The Wii U was an entirely new console generation, not an upgraded Wii with HD as people were talking about for 3-5 years.
Cant reveal until the ink is dry on the Stadia integration deal.
Switch Pro and PS4 Pro.
If the Pro does come out, I can't wait for the disappointment when it doesn't live up to every rumor ever stated.
@Tandy255 would be awesome. as long as it brings something genuinely NEW i'll be happy.
I guess if Bloomberg "reports" it enough it will magically happen, right. Jeezus Focking christmas they have been reporting this for the last couple of years. Nintendo is having a hard enough time with producing the current switch models and Bloomberg wants us to believe that a new model is going into production this year (again).
@Sinton
Actually it sort of was an upgraded Wii with HD....LoL....no seriously the WiiU maintained the same powerPC architecture that both the NGC and the Wii used. It was just an upgraded PPC CPU with a faster bus and better GPU. This is why the unit is fully backwards compatible with Wii (and GC if you mod it).
Never the less Nintendo did bomb the messaging and marketing of the WiiU and both confused consumers but also tried to play off the success of Wii which had already wound down two years before WiiU launch (so the brand was already faded). Add to that the fact that the concept (dual screen TV gaming) just wasn't that well understood, implemented, or accepted and what you get is NGC 2.0....a system with some really great games but commercially it was a failure.
@Arkay,
I have been holding off buying a new Switch, as tempting as some of those special edition consoles are, but it's around the time when Nintendo usually offer a revision, which is what this will end up being, and Nintendo rarely reveal console revisions at E3.
@Bizaster It was just a throw away comment. Don't take it personally.
IDGAF what no one says.....this is real and its definitely coming soon. My wallet and I are ready.
@Bearzilla823 Nintendo is having a hard enough time with producing the current switch models and Bloomberg wants us to believe that a new model is going into production this year (again).
Here we go again with Trolls complain enough and it will be true. Product so far been far better then two other consoles and one supposedly brand now xx5 Pro that has far worse supply yet people seem to dismiss any production issues about it. Go Figure huh
@technotreegrass If the Pro does come out, I can't wait for the disappointment when it doesn't live up to every rumor ever stated.
Really that's all one can live by? Here's something NIN said to developers. They already mentioned to have 4k Ready so did that news miss you as well when selective reading.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-nintendo-increases-switch-production-asks-developers-for-4k-ready#:~:text=Game%20developers%20speaking%20anonymously%20have,as%20part%20of%20the%20package.
https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-reportedly-asking-developers-to-make-4k-ready-games-suggesting-switch-upgrade
https://www.vg247.com/2020/09/09/nintendo-switch-4k-ready-report/
So what did you miss? Remember they produce hardware and put games onto cart for Switch it's up to the Developers to take full usage of the system Graphics and CPU system to make it work. NIN can only do so much the next is the Developers. It takes two to tango.
@QuickSilver88 it sort of was an upgraded Wii, but it wasn’t. When you buy a PS4 Pro or an Xbox One X, the PS4/XB1 games are upscaled or enhanced to run at 4K (not quite on the PS4 Pro, but still). When you start a Wii game on a Wii U, it boots down, starts again in «Wii Mode» with no enhancements whatsoever. As far as I understand, this new Switch model will be a Pro/X version of the regular Switch, not a new generation with backwards compatability.
It replacing the current "main" model certainly makes sense looking back at past systems.
@johnvboy I tried to wait as long as I could but I simply had to get a new one before the old one died on me.
@GrailUK I think you mean all the scalpers will buy it lol.
There is a guy who stands around on a street corner near where I live half naked and screaming that we need to repent because the world is going to end
And I legitimately, without any sarcasm, give him more respect and take his more seriously then any website that reports on a switch pro.
I don't know you guys, but it surely feels good to be living the pre-E3 hype once again. Last year felt so strange even with the digital streams...
I've hearing this rumour for months now (Bloomberg surely loves to clinch on the latest insider). But this time, Emily Rogers is supporting it, and she's definitely one with a good track record
That said, I don't believe it should replace the current model. I expect it to be avaliable for quite some time, as Nintendo says it's still at the middle of its life-cycle (at this point, it's now a little beyond that).
There's a whole other level of facepalm going on when reading through this comment section. From the hardware-revision deniers to the new-generation conspiracy theorists I really can't comprehend how some people's brains must work (or don't.)
As for a new Switch revision, you'd have to be living under a rock to not know it would be arriving about now, back when "NX" was nearing reveal. Of course there's a hardware revision. There's always a hardware revision. Only WiiU didn't get a hardware revision because it died before it even reached revision time. And the revision is always a nicely refined and updated version with a bit more performance to it. The only people that could possibly not think a hardware revision would arrive around now are the people convinced they're pulling the plug on the entire Switch console in a month and replacing it with a 10th generation platform. Like DSi, N3DSXL, GBA SP, and GBC, we will hardly even remember the original current model ever existed by the time we have another 3-4 years with the new model being thought of as "Switch."
Just want to say I dislike the word pro attached to products xx
@TSR3 That sounds a very reasonable prediction.
@Arkay,
I gave my original launch model to my sister, but it's still in perfect condition, and she only plays in docked mode, I bought the newer version with the improved battery life, so I can wait until somethings announced.
Got the Animal crossing island moving app downloaded just in case.
@sanderev ok so my switch isnt going to go obsolete. Not sure how that will work. I mean if a game comes out will it only play on the pro?
It'll be interesting to see (assuming this does come out in 2021) how well stocked it will be. You can't even buy the original Switch in stores right now (actually, as long as you don't mind an Animal Crossing-themed Switch, they had those at Target last weekend). Unless you want a Mario Game & Watch, there's no systems available for anyone these days (Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo).
But I'm still in the "don't believe it until I see it" mode on this rumor, and I'm kind of sick of hearing about it.
@LinkSword I agree 100%
I hope they just announce a new system. Enough of this mid-gen upgrade nonsense that only lasts 2 years max before they are forced to drop a new console anyway.
I'll buy about 4 on release day just to have some spares incase one falls in the pool or off the yacht...
@Max_the_German I think Wii games can run at 1080p and 60fps. In China the Shield has basically the same processor as Switch and runs some Wii games at 60fps. Switch is powerful enough to do that without the upgraded processor. That said, I'm really hoping for more storage space (like 64GB built in) and a faster processor that can consistently run games at 60fps (or higher, I'd go crazy for a 120fps Switch!).
@Joe-b No, there will be no software difference between the older Switches and this new one. Basically it has the same SoC as the Switch Lite and the 2019 Switch. It will replace the 2019 Switch, like that one replaced the original Switch.
All games will still work just as well on the day one Switch.
It will have a dedicated chip for upscaling 1080p content to 4K, so you get a nicer image on your 4k TV. (this might be DLSS based, but the source didn't specify that)
Also it's rumored to have an OLED screen.
@talllennart
I prefer nvidia, but there’s a reason the console builders use AMD.
Better economy of scale, the ability to easily package the CPU and GPU together in an APU for mass production, AMD is a much larger company with better chip fabrication capabilities to meet demand (although they are failing to meet demand right now), and AMD cuts better deals than nVidia for bulk. There’s a reason both Sony and Microsoft used nVidia for one generation each and then told them to screw off.
Nintendo was wise to go with nVidia, though. AMD doesn’t offer an APU package optimized for tablet class devices that’s any good. But I don’t blame MS and Sony for sticking with AMD. It made perfect sense for what they were trying to do with their platforms.
@sanderev ah ok. I wonder if they'll be more powerful games that require more power than the original switch can handle but needs the switch pro (which I thought had a new nvidia chip).
@Joe-b I mean if a game comes out will it only play on the pro?
No wonder NEStalgia talks about facepalm these are the very comments that needs asking where did you craw out from under. Does one not even know the word backward compatible means anymore. Do they think NIN will do such a move as the carts can go big as 64gb as seen in the wild or teased about. That would be more then big enough for NIN cart games to fit. Some games may only be optimized for a Higher model but that doesn't mean it can tuned down to work on a lower model. Why break something that work if they want more Performance use the higher model for everyday no frills the standard will work just fine. I don't think they will do like the 3DS and 3DS XL game carts that was a debacle but the XL could play the older but not the other way around. I think that was teaching or watershed moment that they probably said why shoot yourself in the foot.
@TheRedComet But I don’t blame MS and Sony for sticking with AMD. It made perfect sense for what they were trying to do with their platforms.
It's more then that it's called playing for less power. Nvidia chipset has always been ahead of AMD. In computer AMD had alot of issues with Drivers and I've had a laptop that used AMD GPU and that was problem after problem trying to get the Driver to work. Nvidia install latest Driver for GPU and no issues that is why I've stuck with Nvidia until AMD fixes their driver issues that already a non-starter. There are reasons Nvidia is the leader here in GPU and this is their Bread/Butter to make it work.
I hope they announce WHEN is the announcement happing. That way I can be ready BEFORE the "bots" hit. Seriously someone needs to do a bot killer or something
@Bizaster Ah, no worries, man
@sixrings I have not bought a system revision since the GBA SP.
With so many rumours coming from different sources the switch revision is happening, the 4k upscaling is often cited and the oled 7 inch screen is surely happening the manufacturing company even told investor about the upcoming production of the screen for the switch pro, if it's not enough of an evidence it's happening then I don't know what you need more!
If news taught me anything in 2020 it is that those who report news are wrong far too often.
"low res visuals upscaled by the dock"....
Hmm, I'm pretty worried, the result could be terrible on a TV.
@ChakraStomps I don't expect comedy here but this made me chuckle.
@NEStalgia true, but even right after release, not too many were paying $600+ (double retail) for Switches from my recollection. Either way make sure you have you card saved for easy checkout
@Bizaster It's one of my favourite games ever too! I have my fingers and toes crossed we see a Monkey Ball 3 at E3 somewhere
@QuickSilver88 I agree, the U.S. launch ads for the Wii U were horrible, and imo NoA really dropped the ball with the Wii U overall. It was a solid system, and the GamePad was a solid piece, but I just feel like NoA had no clue what they were doing and/or just automatically assumed that it would sell extremely well because it had the "Wii" name in it, and the Wii had been so successful for them.
We've had a Wii U since launch though, and it is still used. The backwards compatibility with the Wii games is great, and the eShop/Virtual Console stuff was solid.
I am thinking the next Switch system will be like the New 3DS, and not an entirely new system. Just some upgrades, with better overall performance. Backwards compatible, and maybe some launch titles that help showcase the extra power of the system.
Maybe something like 60 FPS vs. 30 FPS in some first party games, more third party ports, better battery life, better quality of life on the Joy-Cons (maybe redesigned for this system so they don't have the drift issue?).
I don't see them abandoning the current Switch system with games that have sold over 30 million copies, I see them trying to make the case for those to upgrade for better performance, and new games with that performance though.
Not interested. Will buy a PS5 or XBOX Series X before...and not from a !@#$%^&* scalper.
@SwitchForce wow. Rough.
@Luigisghost669 Totally agree. If the new games don’t work on the current hardware, people are going to be irate.
@redd214 IDK, I remember some crazy scalper stuff in '17..I was watching for someone who couldn't get one and was always amazed.... But the whole scalping thing seems like it's gone to 11.5 recently, what with grown men assaulting people in Walmart for Pokemon cards and the like. Then again, that shouldn't be surprising from the Pokemon community lol.
Saved card, copious amounts of Speed, large suppply of adult diapers, Nintendo Brass KnucklesTM...... Am I missing any pre-order zombie apocalypse essential supplies?
This just showed up at amazon. https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B0962N2JZW/
I just bought a Mario Edition Switch in February, don't do this to me, Nintendo.
If the SoC stays the same, and the difference is in the chip and the dockable 4K, it could be something solvable for extant consoles via a dock-side upgrade, like the New 3DS features available to 3DS users via external hardware - Circle Pad Pro, Amiibo Scanner, etc.
This could also water down the price of upgrading for those who can't afford to buy a whole new same console.
@Joe-b The nvidia chip is the same as the 2019 / Lite. It has an additional chip that only handles upscaling to 4K.
Also I don't think Nintendo would allow games to only target the newer Switch (even if it was more powerful). Games would then just have an "improved" mode for the newer model.
@sanderev ah ok. That makes sense. I mean I couldn't see them doing anything to alienate current owners considering they are selling 20 million units a year.
So it's not really a Switch Pro at all.
But it might come with a dock that DLSS upscales to 4K, for those who give a toss?
Gotcha.
Source(s): dude trust me
just to clear up misinformation the DLSS supporting chipset will be all new (and much more recent/powerful). there's no other way around this it won't/cannot be built into the dock.
Breath of the Wild 2 will be delayed till 2022. Though not a "Switch Pro" exclusive, it will display a higher color fidelity on Nintendo's upcoming revised console. Similar to the differences of how Hyrule Warriors Legends appears between the 3DS & 'New' 3DS, but better.
@Samwise7 Same. I bought my OG on day one, and sadly this month it just died. This has NEVER happened to any of my handhelds before, previous devices were treated to global travel and general youthful abandon. So, yeah, bring a new one on. That said, I've been using my kid's Lite and I love that form factor, so maybe I'll just get one of those and be happy enough...
No surprise here it will be a replacement. I've been saying it for 2 years. Why? Because that's what Nintendo always do. Just like the red box update that proved to be the previous Pro rumours. The idea of a "Pro" - a super enhanced version selling at an exorbitant price beside a base model - was pure folly. Let's start talking Switch update instead of this Pro nonsense to avoid all the confusion. I'd also suggest it might be the same RRP or $20 more while the old model is discounted to clear stock.
@Slowdive I've only been saying that (BOTW2 will launch with it) for a year, and I'm not even an expert.
@Kamalen Exactly. It's not a Pro. It never was and never would be. It's the usual update and revision Nintendo always do. It's sad the misuse of the word Pro has created so much confusion. The last Pro rumour proved to be the red box update. Now another Pro rumour we get another update, albeit more substantial to extend the generation.
@F_T_Wolf It won't be much more expensive. My bet is $20 or even the same RRP, while the old model is discounted to clear stock. Sad that the "Pro" talk has created so much confusion. It never would be one. Think of it like New 3DS to 3DS (update and replace), not PS4 Pro to PS4 (severely enhanced and sold beside a base model at a premium price).
@HalBailman
"Pro" is what stuck though I'd be surprised if that would be the actually name. Something more along the line as, indeed, 'New Nintendo Switch' would be more likely. The 'Nintendo Switch+' sound best to me, but something tells me that's not going to be its name either.
The Switch Pro better have folders.
At this point I hope the thing comes out just so the rumors can stop for like six months.
@F_T_Wolf I know, and it's created so much confusion and with many articles and discussion about a "Pro" in the context of a PS4 Pro. That was never happening. They might call it Switch New. Who knows!
@SwitchForce,
I wouldn't call the Switch small. For one, its much bigger then a 3DS. I don't know how big the Switch2 might be, might be bigger then the current Switch. I am just thinking it will be much more powerful, but of course not nearly as powerful as a Ps5 or XboxseriesX.
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