After years of rumours and speculation, Nintendo finally lifted the lid on its revised and upgraded Switch system in June 2021 and the Nintendo Switch OLED Model launched on October 8th (the same day as Metroid Dread).
The newer system features a larger 7-inch OLED screen (the standard console has a 6.2-inch LCD screen), a wider kickstand, enhanced audio through new in-built speakers, a LAN port in the dock, and 64GB of internal storage (double the 32GB of the standard model). The Joy-Con and the dock also come in a fetching new colour variant, as you can see above.
However, it seems to have fallen short of the hype surrounding the rumoured Switch Pro, offering a 720p image on its screen and a 1080p image when docked and played on your TV. Nintendo has confirmed that the CPU and RAM remain unchanged when compared to the original Switch model.
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Nintendo Switch OLED Model - The Details
Here are the full details from Nintendo's official PR:
Nintendo Switch (OLED model) has a similar overall size to the Nintendo Switch system, but with a larger, vibrant 7-inch OLED screen with vivid colors and crisp contrast. Nintendo Switch (OLED model) also features a wide adjustable stand for tabletop mode, a new dock with a wired LAN port, 64GB of internal storage, and enhanced audio for handheld and tabletop play. Just like Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch (OLED model) allows players to play on the TV and share the detachable Joy-Con controllers for right-out-of-the-box multiplayer fun. And just like both Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch Lite, with Nintendo Switch (OLED model), the system can be taken on the go to enjoy its play-anywhere versatility. A carrying case and screen protector set for Nintendo Switch (OLED model) will also be available.
Nintendo Switch (OLED model) will let players experience enhancements in all three play modes:
TV mode: Set the Nintendo Switch (OLED model) system into the dock to play Nintendo Switch games on the TV. By using the built-in wired LAN port, players can enjoy another way to connect online in TV mode.
Tabletop mode: Flip the stand on the back of the system and use the system’s screen to play multiplayer games using two Joy-Con controllers right out of the box. A wide adjustable stand makes for a solid and sturdy foundation. It allows players to freely tilt the system and adjust the viewing angle, so it makes it easier to see the screen.
Handheld mode: Players can bring the system wherever they go in handheld mode and play local or online multiplayer with friends. The system’s 7-inch OLED screen provides vivid color and crisp contrast.
When the system launches, it will come in two color options:
- Nintendo Switch (OLED model) white set, which features white Joy-Con controllers, a black main unit and a white dock.
- Nintendo Switch (OLED model) neon red/neon blue set, which features neon red and neon blue Joy-Con controllers, a black main unit and a black dock.All previously released Joy-Con for Nintendo Switch are compatible with this new model. Additionally, Nintendo Switch (OLED model) is compatible with the full library of Nintendo Switch games.
We first heard whispers of a 'Switch Pro' way back in January 2019, with various sources believing such a console was just around the corner. The main upgrades here are the 7-inch OLED screen, improved speakers and a LAN port in the dock, rather than any extra horsepower.
Perhaps the huge success of the base model, the surprise of the pandemic, and any other number of factors you want to throw into the mix ended up delaying this announcement.
Should you buy one, though? If you're unsure if this makes it worth the purchase, then check out our comprehensive guide here.
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - The Screen
As the name suggests, the screen really is the main reason to get excited about this revised model, and if you're not fussed about that, then you might be better off sticking with your existing console – even Nintendo employees are saying it.
Here are the raw facts about the Switch OLED Model's screen, and how it stacks up against other members of the Switch family:
- The new Nintendo Switch OLED console has a 7-inch OLED multi-touch capacitive touch screen with a resolution of 1280x720p
- The standard Nintendo Switch console has a 6.2-inch LCD multi-touch capacitive touch screen with a resolution of 1280x720p
- The handheld-only Nintendo Switch Lite has a 5.5-inch LCD multi-touch capacitive touch screen with a resolution of 1280x720p
Simply put, OLED offers illumination on a per-pixel basis, meaning each pixel on the screen can be illuminated individually. Conversely, LCD screens rely on illumination from larger backlights which can result in light spill and dark areas of the screen that appear 'grey' rather than black — think about how the illuminated 'black' screen looks on your Switch when you first turn it on.
Therefore, thanks to the localised illumination OLED technology offers, the screen on the new Switch OLED model will have deeper blacks, better contrast and a more vibrant look over the LCD versions.
OLED can also offers benefits in terms of battery life — no power is 'wasted' lighting areas of the screen that shouldn't be illuminated, so OLED screens are more power-efficient. Nintendo is apparently using the same battery for the new model (Lithium-ion battery / 4310mAh) and its manufacturer estimates for battery life on the new OLED Switch model are identical to the standard Switch — 4.5 to 9 hours depending on the factors such as the game you're playing, screen brightness and wireless connectivity.
The new Switch does have a bigger screen which will draw more power, and according to Nintendo's estimates, the savings made through OLED efficiency will be eaten up by the extra 0.8 inches of the new screen.
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Joy-Con
Nintendo previously confirmed that the Joy-Con which come with the OLED Model are the same as the standard Joy-Con, so you can use them with older Switch systems – as well as use your existing Joy-Con with the new model. It would seem that there are no improvements or additions to these Joy-Con, outside of them being white – so those hoping for a hardware fix for 'Joy-Con drift' may be disappointed.
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Dock
The OLED Model also has a redesigned dock, which comes with a built-in LAN port so you can enjoy low-latency wireless gaming. As is the case with the Joy-Con, this dock is compatible with the original Switch too.
You can purchase the dock separately, but only from Nintendo's online store.
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Hardware Gallery
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Packaging Gallery
It's worth noting that the Switch OLED Model gets its own carry case, although, in reality, it's very similar to previous official Switch carry cases – just in a slightly different colour. It does come with some screen protectors, though!
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Technical Specifications
You can see how the Switch OLED Model compares to the original Switch and Switch Lite here.
Size | 4 inches high, 9.5 inches long, and 0.55 inches deep (with Joy-Con attached) *The depth from the tip of the analog sticks to the tip of the ZL/ZR buttons is 1.12 inches |
Weight | Approximately .71 lbs (Approximately .93 lbs with Joy-Con controllers attached) |
Screen | Multi-touch capacitive touch screen / 7.0 inch OLED screen / 1280x720 |
CPU/GPU | NVIDIA Custom Tegra processor |
Storage | 64 GB Users can easily expand storage space using microSDHC or microSDXC cards up to 2TB (sold separately). |
Wireless | Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac compliant) / Bluetooth 4.1 |
Video output | Up to 1080p via HDMI in TV mode Up to 720p via built-in screen in Tabletop mode and Handheld modes |
Audio output | Compatible with 5.1ch Linear PCM output Output via HDMI connector in TV mode |
Speakers | Stereo |
Buttons | Power button / Volume button |
USB connector | USB Type-C Used for charging or for connecting to the Nintendo Switch dock. |
Headphone/mic jack | 3.5mm 4-pole stereo (CTIA standard) |
Game card slot | Nintendo Switch game cards |
microSD card slot | Compatible with microSD, microSDHC, and microSDXC memory cards *Once the microSDXC card is inserted, a system update will be necessary. An internet connection is required to perform this system update. |
Sensor | Accelerometer, gyroscope, and brightness sensor |
Operating environment | 41-95 degrees F / 20-80% humidity |
Internal battery | Lithium-ion battery / 4310mAh |
Battery life |
Approximately 4.5 - 9 hours |
Charging time | Approximately 3 hours *When charging while the hardware is in sleep mode |
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Games & Switch Online
Nintendo has built up an impressive library of games for Switch since 2017, and all those games are playable on Switch OLED. If you're looking for something to play on the new system, there's plenty to choose from for more information refer to our Best Switch Games guides.
- Best Nintendo Switch Games
- Best Nintendo Switch Exclusives
- Best Nintendo Switch Couch Co-Op Games
- Best Nintendo Switch RPGs
- Switch Essentials
Nintendo Switch Online is the company's subscription service that enables online play in games that have that mode and also offers access to a variety of NES, SNES and N64 games. Online multiplayer games such as Tetris 99 are also available to play for no extra charge for NSO subscribers, and this service is available on Switch OLED just as the other Switch consoles.
- Nintendo Switch Online - Every NES, SNES, N64 and Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Game Available
- Every Nintendo Switch Online NES Game Ranked
- Every Nintendo Switch Online SNES Game Ranked
- Every Nintendo Switch Online N64 Game Ranked
Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Where To Buy
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Frequently Asked Questions
Does the Switch OLED have better specs?
Kinda. The basic silicon under the hood is no more advanced, although features like the OLED screen and the improved kickstand offer significant upgrades over the base model.
Is Nintendo Switch OLED more powerful, then? It's not more powerful than the standard Switch, no — it's just got better features.
Is Switch OLED 4K ready?
No, Switch OLED does not have native 4K output.
Is the Switch OLED 120hz?
Also no.
So What Happened To The Switch Pro, Then?
Some of the 'Switch Pro' rumours we heard over the years came to pass in the Switch OLED Model, including a better screen, improved kickstand, and the inclusion of a LAN port on the dock. However, 4K output was nowhere to be seen and there was no power boost in the hardware, either. Does that mean that the Switch Pro was never coming?
In December 2022, noted tech outlet Digital Foundry claimed that Switch Pro was indeed a real thing at one point, but was cancelled by Nintendo in favour of sticking with the base Switch model and focusing R&D on a full Switch successor.
And that wraps up our Switch OLED guide. Let us know in the comments section below if you've got any suggestions, tips or questions about the new Switch.
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I want more compute
Not sure if I'll get one yet but I guess I better get ready to at least temporarily preorder one as soon as they're available in case there's limited stock. The white Joy-Con are nice.
I was not expecting this few differences!
just watched video a couple minutes ago a little underwhelmed
Nothing about improved processing though? just a slightly bigger OLED screen and 64gb internal storage.
Literally just watch the reveal trailer on reddit and was wondering when this would break on here, nice work Rapid Ryan.
Take my money Nintendo.
So not exactly pro? Only difference 7 inch OLED screen, wide adjustable stand, a dock with wired LAN port and 64GB of storage?
but still ordering
Looks cool, but I don't feel the need to rush out and buy it.
-but if I ever need a replacement I will definitely get one (if there's a nicer colour option)
Finally, though I'm surprised there's no changes to the actual hardware apart from a new screen.
Looks good, would like to know more about any graphics boost or improved battery life before rushing to buy tho.
I am so disappointed that it doesn't improve the performance under the hood.
Hard not to be a little disappointed after all the rumours of 4K and DLSS.
Having said that, the improvements are good. Not sure it's enough for me to upgrade though.
This was the reason I was holding off replacing my stolen Switch. I hope they fixed the Joycon problems as well with this model.
Disappointed as it did not upgrade the specs (performance) .
It will be nice for future owners but definitely nothing that would make me want to buy right now.
Happy with the version I have.
Garbage. 50 bucks more for this?
The Switch finally has dedicated LAN ports. Nintendo is getting with the times, and it only took four years.
Lovely! It's so beautiful...
Well, it still wasn't revealed at E3 so we were right!!
See.. no Pro.
Just Oled screen and some minor improvements.
No exclusive games.
And yes.. I WILL be buying this.
Am I laughing at the people who believed the Pro was definitely coming? Yes. Will I continue to laugh at the people who think the Switch will die without it? Yes.
I think your title is wrong. This is not the Switch Pro we were expecting.
Well, it doesnt say anything about improved specs. If its just a bigger screen im not that impressed or interested. Just hope that theres still more information to come.
No GPU or CPU bump?
Like I'm a shill who will probably buy it - but for the general consumer, this isn't enough for an upgrade - especially if they price it higher than the current models.
And now to wait for a limited edition version
Preferably Zelda, Pokemon, Etrian Odyssey,
I’ll get one in a few months after release or so. It looks neat, but not neat enough to fight the bots when preorders go live.
I am not seeing many features that would warrant replacing my current one, but it is nice for those that have a Nintendo Switch that might be a little rough around the edges.
Well doesn’t seem that games will play any different from the current model. Guess I’ll be saving some money (unless mine breaks or eventually it is revealed that it’s actually more powerful)
Hope there’s enough internal changes to fix the jankiness of the eshop…..such a bad experience on there.
Where’s the power increase for games, like higher resolution and framerate bumps? Happy this finally exists, though.
They delayed reveal of it by whole month, but better later then never.
But does it run better, or is this just an upgrade if you play more Handheld?
Wrong thing to focus in, but that white dock looks clean af
How have they still not added a basic d-pad??
Wahoo! A LAN port included.
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha, I swear management at this company are the ultimate trolls
Wait, so this is actually real now? And I'm not dreaming?
Seems like what I expected, more "revision", less "Pro" power, they'll save that for Switch 2.
Weell it is nice to finally have it announced even if it isn't out for a few more months. Unless I'm dreaming, which I'm still considering is a possibility.
Hey @JaxonH look 64GB of storage. I think I was having that discussion / you, maybe on Twitter? Maybe I dreamed that too? 😂
Edit : I think its absolutely hilarious hilarious that they included a Lan port, so that I could keep this one and give the current one to my kid, but they also added the OLED screen, which makes it better for handheld.
Which raises the question, can we swap docks, and is this really a Pro or just a revision and current model will be canceled? It really does feel more like a $299 revision than a $399 Pro. Switch should probably be only $249 by now anyway, it's over 4 years old.
Have they even bothered solving JoyCon drift?
Hmmm…..Not what I was expecting. I have a switch lite and a dock one. So, I am not sure this is for me because if there isn’t any improvements on the inside…… Looks like I’ll have to watch and wait and see
(Saw White Joy Cons and White dock with 7 inch monitor size)
OOOOOOOOOOOH....!!! 😲😲😲😍😍😍
I will buy OLED Model next year ! 😃
I don't know much about OLED but I have an OLED Vita. One annoying thing about it is that the screen dims during inactivity - so while watching a cutscene etc. I really hope that's not a requirement of the technology.
@HamatoYoshi but hey... that kickstand.
I called it, I knew if the Switch "Pro" is real it's just going to have a bigger screen and that's it. I knew that all this 4K rumors were BS xD
IT'S THE MOST BORING NAME POSSIBLE! HAHAHAHAHA!
Anyway, not a huge fan of the white scheme but yeah I'm probably getting it (apparently the joy-cons haven't changed? Fine by me)
My Switch fan sound made it impossible to play in Feb, so I’ve been borrowing my Mum’s. This is a perfect way to give it back to her.
I was just thinking about the whole Switch Pro idea this morning and it happens! I had a feeling that if they were ever going to announce it, it would be in early to mid July when the Switch Lite was announced in 2019.
The new OLED screen and wide kickstand look cool, as well as the new colour scheme for the dock, but I’m concerned about the lack of resolution and performance upgrades in the trailer, so I’m guessing the additions in the trailer are all of the ones made.
Still excited to get it though: what is new is great but would’ve killed for 4K dock output and 1080p handheld resolution and I would’ve paid more for both easily.
Actually most of the rumors about this thing WEREN'T true, especially the hype about increased power. I play my Switch exclusively while docked, so a fancier screen doesn't matter at all to me. At least I can take comfort in knowing I no longer have to worry about budgeting that three or four hundred bucks this fall.
For the people that mostly plays docked it looks like it is almost exactly the same, right?
@tourjeff I am not sure what you mean by specs. the specs were upgraded. That was what the video was about
Still grabbing it, but would do so with more haste if there were a confirmed processing power upgrade. I'm also not crazy about the white color scheme and would prefer the standard black one.
I know the people on here will complain because they fell into the rumors, there won't be any big upgrade people. The next upgrade will be the Switch 2, or whatever new system Nintendo makes. The fact is, this is better. An OLED screen, the stand, more memory, better internet connection, and more sturdy. But, that isn't good enough for the rumor patrol crowd.
It looks cool and I will upgrade to one this October. If the scalpers don't horde them all.
This isn’t a pro model. It does nothing to upscale resolution. What a waste of a hardware revision.
The word "vibrant" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
This is great for all new-comers to the Switch.
I'll stick with my 2019 model (red box one) for the time being.
I never use it in handheld mode so, no point in me getting it, lol
So calling it the "OLED model" is kinda lazy. And I was really hoping for another SD card slot and natively supported Bluetooth audio...
And I think I really want to try the OLED first, but if the screen is as nice as other OLED devices I've seen, I'll probably upgrade for sure.
@NintendoWiiDS Those are technical upgrades. Or are you referring to computation?
Nothing mind blowing, as I expected. OLED is still nice.
Hugely disappointing as apart from a better looking dock and screen of course, there seems to be no real benefits to gaming on it. Why bother?
I'm just relieved the Switch Pro rumors should quell a bit, they've been starting to get annoying.
I warned you guys. We weren't gonna get a hardware boost that cuts off certain games, we weren't gonna get better graphics (but we did get a better screen though), and we aren't getting new Joy Cons (new colours though). I'm GLAD the jump wasn't that big, because it doesn't feel useless to own the 2017 model.
@roboshort sorry, I meant a processing 'power' bump to keep it up with the competition.
7/5/21: nintendo releases an update that snags a bunch of hackers
7/6/21: nintendo announces an updated console
looks like its time to milk the banned homebrewers
@RupeeClock it would be very nintendoish for them not to mention it has a better cpu and gpu
Lol, I came here to make sure I wasn't just missing something from the announcement. Soooo, no 4K or any processing bump? It looks great, but not enough of an upgrade to make me ditch my current Switch.
Not so great update. Not excited. I almost only use docked mode. No buy for me.
Oooh boy, this is is going to get interesting here grabs popcorn
I‘m honestly glad it‘s not a New or Pro model. The switch is over 4 years old, it won‘t be long until we get its successor.
Wonder what the price will be though.
It's less of a massive upgrade and more of a... "here's a bunch of stuff we probably should have had in the base model". Ah well! White Joy-Cons!!
I am slightly confused with the OLED. Does that mean it will be 1080p handheld? In which case you would expect more internal engineering if it needs to step up to the higher resolution in portable mode
An interesting detail from the official site, is that the new dock is compatible with the original Switch, and vice versa.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Nintendo-Switch-Family/Nintendo-Switch-OLED-model-/Nintendo-Switch-OLED-model--2000984.html
Good for bringing your new Switch to another handheld or whatever, but this intrinsically means that the new model has absolutely no benefits to TV mode.
Presumably this holds off any major revision for the next 2-3 years?
There may be a lot of pure rage if the only improvements are the oled screen and the Dock. Or is this a case of the Wii U and them not really saying what is powering the system?
Honestly not surprised
It’s very pretty to look at. But unless something happens to my current OG release day switch I think I will wait it out for a power bump. Don’t think I can justify buying a new one for a nicer display just yet.
I can't find anywhere to pre-order yet! Kinda sad there is no Bluetooth support or extra processing power but I'll take it!
no performance upgrade? Seems pointless
@ModdedInkling tbh, this is about what I expected out of a revision. Still the improvements I wanted.
I'm a little disappointed to be honest, but not surprised at the same time. I don't really see any reason to upgrade based on this information.
I'm sorry, but releasing another system with this ongoing chip shortage ist just so bizarre. Congrats to those that manage to get the system before Holiday 22.
As expected, its not a power boost.
Everyone expecting a powerboost doesnt know how nintendo works. There never was giong to be a switch pro.
This is going to sell out soooo quickly, I don’t know if I’ll even try until 2022…
Still can't plug it in while using the kickstand!?
I guess I won't be getting a new Switch for Christmas then.
Edit: Nintendo showing Samus impotently firing off, and having no effect, is perfectly chosen for this reveal.
It would be very Nintendo not to release any performance improvements in the reveal ad - so has there been a confirmation that it is the exact same chipset under the hood?
What a pile of *****. Was expecting at least an upgraded cpu/gpu/ram call it the New Nintendo Switch and then I'd consider it. Plus you could of made the screen bigger on the face of it. Look how small the bezel is on phones now.
I will not be purchasing this that's for sure.
Hahahahahahaha. No Bluetooth support, absolutely zero upgrades on the hardware side. It’s just things that it should have launched with in the first place.
Hope it's compatible with the flip grip! That OLED screen looks beautiful, hope it has better battery life as well
Beautiful OLED display. No HDR to take full advantage of it.
Thank goodness I know I will be saving my money by sticking with my release day Switch.
Now, bring on Metroid Dread and BotW Sequel!
honestly i was expecting more then that its more ' enhanced switch ' then a 'switch pro' i still use mine its from 2017 and its still serving me perfectly. dont think ill be changing any time soon
@travisrusko it’s a dealbreaker!
I’m glad they didn’t screw a whole lot of people over by making the current switch obsolete with a new 4K super version. So I’m happy
Hmm it's cool,but not enough new stuff for me to buy
With the release of this and the Lite they are ignoring anyone who plays docked. Very annoying. All these "upgrades" are not expensive and should have been there from the start.
If they are still using the outdated internals the cost increase is just being greedy. Very disappointing but not unexpected from Nintendo. They haven't had good tech since the Gamecube.
It looks like I was 100% right everybody who was doubting me told you there was no Pro coming and it was just going to be a revision. Switch 2 will be out in 1-2 years.
@NimrodsSon I just want to say: nice profile picture!!
My main Switch just got handed down to my son as a stick on his Lite is knackered so I've got a good excuse to pick up one of these.
Wonder if the white is the same plastic as the Animal Crossing one, my one of those went a weird pinky red colour.
I play docked mode 95% of the time and this adds no performance improvements, so I think I'll skip this one.
This isn’t the Switch Pro.
There's literally nothing "pro" about this. What a huge disappointment.
Very underwhelmed. I’ll not be getting one, that’s fir sure.
Cool, but confirms what I expected: that the Switch Pro would be a minor bump in improvement and not a major change. I think we won't see a significant upgrade in specs until we see the Switch successor/Switch 2, which likely isn't coming until 2024 at the earliest, more likely 2025 or later.
@piecez the Xbox One X and PS Pro didn't make the slim models obsolete, and a Switch Pro wouldn't have made the base Switch obsolete.
@RupeeClock Thank you for the dock info, I had just asked about that up in post 39 so my handheld playing kid can get the new model OLED screen and I can have the LAN. Hope it's giga - 10,100,1000 - but knowing Nintendo and their snailmail slow servers it's probably a 10/100 port. Which would be better than the 10 Wii adapter I was using until I realized the Switch WiFi is about 45x faster.
But people we got LAN Port. Who cares 4k, bluetooth or other stuff?
@Jokerwolf you and countless others, myself included, who predicted a simple revision.
@H3X3NH4MM3R I have literally been telling people that there was not going to be a pro, it makes zero financial sense for them to release a more powerful system that splinters the user base. The Nintendo switch 2 is in development and will likely be out in 2022.
Haha a guy the other day on here was convinced the "Pro" would be as powerful as a PS4 and refused to budge. There's no power increase or even 4K, its just a better screen and audio and more storage space, basically its a "XL" or "Lite" type upgrade. No wonder they felt no need to show it off at E3.
Same blurry undocked image quality + "beautiful" OLED burn-in
No thanks.
Definitely skipping this, OLED screen and 32GB extra internal memory is not worth buying another Switch. Will wait for a real upgrade instead (whether a New 3DS type revision or a successor).
Looks awful in that white, the name is awful, nope nope nope
Dont forget, a whole 0.8 inches bigger? Oh wow, sorry but this is just a massive money grab and is not worth it
White Joy-Con red Joy-Con it matters not.
All Joy-Cons will eventually drift.
Disappointed, but at the same time at least Nintendo is looking out for me and is making me save a few bucks.
Won't be buying it, and am sticking with my Lite (I was looking into docked improvements specifically, it doesn't make sense for me over very light and compact Lite in handheld).
@Waluigi999 The official specs listed on Nintendo's website list it as "Nvidia Custom Tegra Processor"
But the screen is still only 720p with up to 1080p docked. Battery life is also the same as standard, listed as 4.5-9 hours with 3 hour charge time. Battery size is 4310 mAh
Same processor ? Not for me
I might eventually upgrade my current Switch to this, since I play either handheld or tabletop 90% of the time, but I’m in no hurry. Had the OLED model been more powerful, or had built-in Bluetooth audio support, this would have been an instant preorder; as things stand, I can wait (and maybe nab some sort of BotW 2 special edition).
Not interested. Will buy a XBOX Series S or X or PS5 instead.
If your console is topping the sales charts consistently beating out superior consoles regularly then why change the formula?
Im ok with it, means that upcoming games (botw2, prime4 etc) will still work on the regular switch which is great for me as I had no intention of buying a new system.
Nice. I will get one and give my OG switch to my kids to use (one of them stepped on it and cracked the screen even). For $50 I will take an OLED upgrade.
Well, good, now I don't have to worry about having to upgrade
I need another Switch after I lost mine to the kid. Perfect timing too.
Count in my pre-order.
@IronMan30
See? Cheers to you for having realistic expectations! I was just about done with the "rumours" about the Switch "Pro"
RIP "eventually true" rumours (I warned months in advance that NL and everyfan else involved in that buffoonery would die on any toldyouso molehill they can find once Nintendo releases anything), but this iteration does come with a couple QoL features even if I personally care for none of them (I'm sure some folks will find the native LAN port handy).
Not gonna lie! That white dock looks nice! And would go so well next to my PS5 xD
My concern are these 480p res games (and lower) on an OLED. If there was a slight boost to make them stay native 720p res that would have been nice.
And if this is £100 more than a standard switch... Nope! i'll stick to my original 2017 model. Still going strong!
So the internals are basically the same, right? It doesn´t seem very "pro" to me. More like "Switch XL"
The rumors weren't true. This isn't a Switch Pro. It's more like a Switch XL. No improvements in power.
It's seemingly not "the Switch Pro we've been expecting". This is a minor spec bump with little-to-nothing for docked players to care about. No 4K, no meaningful performance bumps. Pass.
@Thierfeu well it's not the same processor it's another variation of the X1 but it's basically the same processor kind of like the mariko revision.
Since the screen is the only change, they should just make the MSRP price the same and replace the current model with it. That oled bigger screen probly will use more power, so no battery or internal upgrades means it'll actually have less battery runtime probly.. sad. I'd only buy this if I didn't have a switch already.
New stand?
Stability intensifies
People are stupid to believe the rumors. Nintendo's models are always about hardware feature upgrade and such, they hardly ever had performance upgrade unless it's a successor. I had always say it will only just be another model than a Switch successor and I am right. Still I'm sure that dock may be able to upscale to 4K perhaps.
So who was right? The No Pro camp or the Pro Pro camp?
So nothing too right home about not really a pro console just a better screen with same resolution and double internal storage which is still a joke , but thankfully sd cards and cheap and getting cheaper.
Really what was the point but on the other hand it's saves me money.
Looks nice, but my current Switch will do for now.
@ChandlerKeith19
That dock's enough for me to buy it.. looks good~
Wonder what all the "a new switch version will never come, you're just gullible" people think right now
@tourjeff I imagine the processing power will be upgraded in some way. Nintendo doesn’t usually share such details, i think. If it isn’t upgraded, I probably won’t get this.
Absolutely baffled by this announcement 😐
The current Switch screen isn’t the problem with the system - it is its sluggish outdated CPU.
Also still cannot charge the battery while playing tabletop mode
What a joke
I was really excited for a minute or two. But there is No 4k Support. The only undocked enhancement seems to be the OLED screen? No CPU or GPU improvements? A slightly better dock?
The "rumors" weren't true at all.
It's a completely regular construction update.
And I'm HAPPY that's the case.
Nintendo seems to have done the sensible thing in every regard here. Even putting an ethernet port on there.
If there’s no upgrade to the slow load times and performance issues present in the current model, then there’s literally no need to purchase this. Calling this a “Switch Pro,” is massive clickbait.
The colour looks cool but this offers so few features over the standard model I don't see any point in upgrading. It'll be nice for first time Switch buyers.
@Classic603 My camp is the right camp which knows the switch 2 is coming out in late 2022 early 2023.
@Classic603 it depends how you look at it... The pro was exclusively about graphics, the no-pro won.... but the rest of the rumours were right on spot
I love that it is NOT that big of an upgrade to the original one! Phew!
@Krysus
You'll likely see a reasonable battery improvement, and the dock is "improved" in so far as you find an ethernet port to be an improvement.
I was keen to trade in my OG model for the Pro but now I'm really not so sure. No 4k is a deal breaker.
@MiphaTheChampion all controllers eventually drift.
@Subtle24 I doubt it.
@tabris95 thanks, that is interesting, that leaves some scope for there to be improvements. I can understand why Nintendo would not want to advertise a "stable 30 fps" in their marketing material, while Sony and Xbox are boasting 120 fps
@CactusMan there's only one way to play games, and that's on the toilet
W/O any added computing power I will only upgrade if my current Switch breaks.
@HorridCrow Maybe thats why they didnt ever said the word "Pro"...
Very OLED tho.
All the talk about 4k did seem pretty lofty, but it's hard not to be a little disappointed here. I was hoping it would at least be a bit more like the N3DS and have a bit more power.
The "screen size growth" animation had me just dying laughing. It was like "Ope, did you miss it? The screen grew a sliver."
@HorridCrow
Personally I'd have been way more disappointed if they did do a pro model.
@Travisemo007 they do but joy-con drift is happening at an alarmingly higher rate than other controllers considering I've had to replace four sets of Joy-Con sticks it's not just a chance. They were also not all my sticks I had to replace them for a bunch of family and friends.
So that is why Nintendo announced the OLED Switch just like that. Because this is not worth buying at all.
So I guess Xenoblade Chronicles 2 will still look like garbage in open areas....
Eh, I'm fine with my current one. Good for those who really need it, though.
@LXP8 Most people didn't think it'd be shown at E3. Nintendo literally said it was just for software. Most thought it'd be the week before.
definitely agree with the comments saying this is less the equivalent of the "new 3ds" and closer to that of the "3ds xl£
an oled screen is nice but im definitely hoping for some kind of performance upgrade in the future whether it be a "new 3ds/ps4 pro" type deal or a fully backwards compatible "switch 2" since i feel the switch as a concept is still fantastic.
this is more like nintendo switch version 3
@Pod why would you be disappointed?
Looks like they didn't update joy-cons at all, which is a missed opportunity. Overall this is a nice upgrade for handheld players, but does pretty much nothing for home players.
@Adamn 4.
Switch base
Switch 2019
Switch Lite
Switch OLED
@Synthatron_Prime yes and u should be happy cuz oled is expensive
So much for a Pro...
Well, I guess it's worth it if you don't own a Switch yet, but otherwise it definitely won't be a reason to sell the existing one and put arguably a lot of money to purchase the OLED model.
Anything on price yet?
@dani3po wasn't aware that this is the Pro? 😃
I was excited when I saw the reveal video in my YouTube recommended, then I remembered my broke butt can barely afford a regular one.
Also, the new Switch was cool BUT DID YOU SEE THAT SPLATOON 3 GAMEPLAY!?!?
They should have just called it the Switch Max or Switch+ or Switcheroo rather than the snappy title they have given us.
I'll wait as I mainly play docked which is why I found out my screen starting to come away about 3 years ago when I took it out of the dock.
@BenGrimm the OLED version has the same battery and there is no boost in terms of performance
@Dezzy Well, this is clickbait, they had to put the rumored Switch Pro in the article.
So updated screen and double internal storage...yeah pass. This is so typical Nintendo.
@JokerCK they never said it would be pro
No CPU/GPU enhancements? Pass! As someone who plays >80% docked, I can safely skip this.
So basically it’s what the original would have been like given a longer testing stage it just corrects the faults of the original and puts a better screen into the mix hope the dock is a little wider as the original scratches the hell out of the switch without being modded not sure it’s worth the extra cash tho
Finally, the screen will surely be lovely but there is no specific mention of improved framerate/resolution, until I see that I have little interest in it. Can't wait for the scalpers to get their hands on this though, it's going to be crazy.
I'm really not surprised we didn't get more power.
Nintendo sucks when it comes to that stuff. They always have, except with the NES, SNES and GameCube.
What a joke, an extra $50 for a slightly bigger screen, OLED and a LAN port on a 4+ year old handheld. That Joy Con design sure did box them into a corner when it comes to revisions. Without 4K and a better processor, there’s really no reason for me to get one. Not when it costs more than a standard Switch. Bummer.
Switch Pro confirmed.
@roboshort I’m talking about docked and handheld resolutions and improved performance.
@sanderev
Same here, with bigger screen and OLED battery should be better.
@Jokerwolf please don’t pretend you know when the new Switch is out, it just makes you look incredibly silly
@Radbot42 Same. I'll wait and see of they do a BOTW2 variant. I really hope the docks are interchangeable.
Lesson learned from this: never listen to YouTube Switch shills/ebeggers. They have no clue about anything, have zero insiders at Nintendo and just "speculate" insane rumors for clicks.
Seems like a good way to eke out a few more years of sales and then just come out with the Switch successor. Make it backwards compatible with Switch games and there you go.
I don't plan on getting this unless they have a sweet BoTW2 special edition in 2022. Then I may not be able to resist.
Considering how difficult it will to be to find one to buy, im okay with not getting with this model.
@BenGrimm People are saying $350 but I don't know where they're getting that info from 😂
Really disappointing, this is just a slight hardware revision.
Unless you are always using it as a handheld, in which case the OLED may be worthwhile, this is a poor 'upgrade' for $350. Hard pass, sadly.
One hundred percent certain Nintendo just made this to spite the "switch pro" rumour enthusiasts.
It's white to represent how salty they'll be lol
For the handheld players this looks like a home run. For docked play are there any actual improvements outside of the LAN port?
I'm very disappointed this doesn't live up to the expectations invented by Youtubers and random internet people.
Cool guess I won't get it.
This is what I was waiting for. Now time to fight over pre-orders.
As a humble salt miner, this has been excellent news!
Whilst this is great if you predominantly play in tabletop or handheld mode (the bigger brighter screen, a better kickstand) I don’t see much in this for someone who use it on a TV:
64gb of internal storage- nice, but irrelevant if you have a micro sd card, which I’m guessing most of us do.
LAN port on the dock - nice, but usb adaptors like the Wii model cost next to nothing and can be used with the existing dock.
Not any faster or more powerful than the last version of the regular switch - not really a ‘pro’ model then.
Plus apart from the bigger screen and OLED (again, nice) the kickstand can easily be replicated by buying any of the third party or licences stands for very little. In fact, aside from the tabletop mode (which was present on the regular switch) and the screen, I can’t see how this is better suited than a switch lite if you mainly play handheld. I’m lucky enough to have a lite and only recently got a regular model as my son is really into the Switch, but I can’t see this replacing either.
Sorry to be so negative and I will admit that if this was my first switch these enhancements would be a welcome edition but it’s more ‘New 3DS’ over ‘old 3DS’ rather than ‘Xbox One to Xbox One X’; nice upgrade but not really worth it unless you really, really need it (and I say that as someone who went 2DS - 3DSXL - New 3DS; it’s a lovely bit of kit but I kind of wish I’d stuck with the 2DS tbh).
Now will everyone shut up about the forever-fabled "Pro"?
Probably not.
@Lanmanna Yeah I saw that message about software only too. But just from looking in Nintendo-related comments sections, it was clear that a huge bunch of people didn't. The leaks and rumours didn't help and got them even more excited. It was the same story every Direct. lol, if they'd just read the message...
So out of all the things people actually wanted. We got 1 feature..the better stand in table top mode. No 4k, no docked improvement...nothing. Just a slightly better screen and slightly better speakers. How is Nintendo so out of touch with the fanbase.
@DeclanS98 AGreed. The Switch is not dying anytime soon
Jeez, everyone is complaining that "theres too few changes" or "they didn't include this or that" or "this is disappointing" or something. Get out of you highchair, put on you big boy/girl pants, and be satisfied with what you have! Nintendo didn't have to release another model, they could've told everyone to stick with the regular Switch or Switch Lite. But they made improvements to try and give the fans what they want, and you should appreciate that and not complain that it isnt exactly what you wanted. Sometimes, you should be satisfied with what you have.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
@Amos_123 These OLED screens they are using are not expensive. That's why Nintendo put them in. There was an article on it a few months back.
@BenGrimm $349 seems to be official. Too rich for my blood.
Just watched the vid:
The quality is nice as usual, but the contents are a disaster.
Starting with Metroid means people are going to be wondering if that new game is OLED only. (Yes I'm calling it OLED b/c Nintendo sucks at naming things.) Then they make a big deal about the screen being less than an inch bigger. Then after making a big deal of the slightly bigger screen they make a big deal of the LAN port, which you can only use docked, which nullifies the screen. And nobody cares about the adjustable stand. Nobody.
Sure, people making the ad have to work w/ what they got, which apparently isn't much, but it's still going to cause issues once everyone gets past the "it's finally announced" stage of engagement. We'll that and is it really worth an extra $50 over a 4 year old system who's price has never dropped.
Just realised it’s still only 720p handheld and will be $50 (and I’m guessing £50) more. I bought a regular switch a month or so ago and got £50 off in vouchers. I would not pay £100 over what I spent for these limited upgrades (but then no one is asking me to). I wonder if they will phase out the OG model like they did with the 3DS?
For anyone wondering the US price is $349.99. Source: https://www.nintendo.com/switch/oled-model/
@Silly_G I fully expect the next switch pro rumour to say something like "the oled was released to tide people over for the long wait before we get 4k graphics and 60fps switch pro exclusives"
Massive shame. I'll wait for the Switch 2
@Automated_Unit_4937
I am seriously left wondering Nintendo are going to give us the option to "performance boost" the new model.
The Nvidia Tegra processor that the Switch uses is infamously underclocked beneath its stock capabilities. Hacked Switch models can overclock the system to safe levels and enjoy real performance gains.
This could lead Nintendo to increasing the performance of the system; at the expense of battery life/power consumption/heat generation, and not having to change the processor at all.
@roboshort I'm sure they will and, hopefully, that will be sooner rather than later.
In this announcement though, I think they missed the opportunity to announce the 'real' Pro version. As it is now, we can't expect another revision at least until summer next year.
The point is, by that time (if it happens), wouldn't it be a bit too late?
I find it very difficult to believe that the developers will manage to keep porting the games released in the PS5 and Xbox.
Sad about the lack of graphics improvement but BLOWN AWAY by upgraded battery life. It would be nice to play games without constantly worrying about charge...
Hopefully this will teach people not to listen to blatant lies from self-proclaimed "leakers".
@Leuke The docks are interchangeable. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Nintendo-Switch-Family/Nintendo-Switch-OLED-model-/Nintendo-Switch-OLED-model--2000984.html
Bottom of page.
@BloodNinja Nintendo never said it was a Switch Pro and they hardly ever called their product like that. If you look back at their handheld or console history if the brand is still the same or unless it's a successor, there won't be any major upgrades in performance or powers. This model is for people who wants a better screen, more internal storage, or better online connectivity. Fortunately Nintendo will upgrade to a successor every 5-7 years so maybe wait 2 more years and a successor will launch.
Gotta say, this feels less like the DS's "jump" from the original unit to the Lite and more like the GBA's "step" from the AGS-001 to the AGS-101.
@Why_Do_I_Exist I'm feeling entitled enough to express at least my disappointment about them not even yielding on BT audio-support ... like a $350 portable device with an OLED screen that does work with BT headphone without an additional adapter in 2021, that makes it no longer fit into it's loading bay. Even by Nintendo's standards this would have been an incredibly low bar to pass. Hell, it would have been a low bar with the 3DS. It's underwhelming, nothing else.
So it's not more powerful at all, just a better handheld screen. Oh and a ethernet port. (something even the Wii U had) That's totally worth an upgrade.
My OLED Vita is still my favorite system of all time. Switch has always felt like Vita 2.0 (in the best way possible) to me. OLED makes it even more so. I had been considering a Switch Lite as a second system for my kids, but now would probably get the OLED version and hand off my original Switch instead if I do decide to go get a second Switch.
@Dr_Lugae You have too much faith in the internet. Don't worry. We can get rid of that
@chapu2006 isn’t it the same battery life as the V2 Switch and the Lite? I could be wrong…
I was really hoping they'd add bluetooth audio support though, too bad
@themightyant battery is the same
Anyone know if it can use Bluetooth headphones
@BornInNorway81
I was. Since from the beginning. As soon as people again began hyping themselves up for another rumored "Pro", I knew it'd be 2019 all over again.
I'm glad the new model does seem to have the same higher battery life than the 2019 refresh however. And the built-in ethernet port might be a boon as well, so I'm low-key considering this upgrade since I'm still using an OG switch from 2017 with the pitiful battery life in handheld mode and still don't have a LAN adapter for it.
So getting this might allow me to kill two birds with one stone and potentially allow me to gift my old Switch to someone else.
Like. 4+ year for me to finally refresh my Switch is something I'm okay with.
@Ladyara I play almost exclusively handheld, so this is a big win for me. Especially that the screen is a little bit bigger. And OLED is better than LCD in daylight situations.
And the ethernet port will help me download bigger games when I'm not playing. I do hope it's connected trough USB 3.1, so it can go full Gigabit.
Oh you have to be f***ing kidding me.
Yeah I don’t think I’ll be upgrading? I’ll have to see reviews about how big of a difference that screen makes.
@Gamecuber not negative at all. Just the voice of reason. No upgrade for me either.
@Why_Do_I_Exist
Sure did. There was also confirmation of a mario party minigame but I forgot it's name.
@Why_Do_I_Exist Its perfectly OK to be satisfied with this release or disappointed. This is their second revision that focuses on portable gaming. What about improving docked performance?
People can be OK with outdated hardware and satisfied with how the games perform on Switch but facts are facts. Most 3rd party games run way worse on Switch. Especially when compared to Series X and PS5. That's why many of us were hoping for a performance boost to at least get to last gen standards. Hence the disappointment.
I rarely play Handheld these days because #joycondrift so an improved OLED will be nice when it comes to upgrade but this seems more of an iterative evolution than a necessary upgrade. . Not surprised that it isn't a 'Pro', that could split the user base which makes it less attractive to third parties.
@Adamn It's actually version 4 now, there were two versions of the original Switch, one with longer batteries and one with less. This one is just that with a better screen, more storage, and a new dock.
It’s clearly aimed at attracting first time Switch buyers. Not reaching for my wallet on this one.
What did I say......
@Gamecuber Really? My switch lasts only 2 hoursish.
@sanderev good for you (and there is no sarcasm intended in that). It’s good that people who play handheld get a boost (especially if you have a 2017 model as you get the better battery as well) but it’s a pity they couldn’t push for 1080p handheld as well plus Bluetooth connectivity. Then it would arguably be the perfect handheld device. Not much in this for those of us who enjoy docked mode more though (and I have a lite too which is even better as a portable).
Wired LAN is really all that caught my attention.
This really should have been the standard since the Wii.
I would consider buying a new wired LAN dock separate. However, I have so many LAN dongles for Nintendo products, I wonder if it is really necessary?
@Toshiro_Baloney I just might but that's because I'm still using the 2017 model with the pitiful battery life from back then(barely over two hours playing BOTW, unlike the 2019 model which can get 5.5 hours like this new model seem to have, and even more with less demanding games).
And this coming with a built-in ethernet port in the dock might allow me to kill two birds with one stone and not have to worry about getting a LAN adapter. Meanwhile I could easily gift my old Switch to a relative or friend.
The larger screen and improvement kickstand however definitely feel they could be an improvement for those people doing local multiplayer on the go via tabletop mode, something that kind of fell by the wayside in advertising but seem to be pushed forward again.
OLED to better display a wider color palette in Portable mode, but no HDR to better display a wider color palette in Dock Mode?
We will need confirmation of which version of HDMI the new dock has.
HDMI 2.0a or higher for HDR.
The old Dock is HDMI 1.4b.
You don't need HDR for portable mode to better display wider colors, the OLED is very capable.
What a disappointment!!! All I wanted was Joycons that don't develope drift. The new features are good but none of the improvements are making me want to upgrade. I do like the white color though.
@Gamecuber Similar battery life, but larger screen and better kickstand which seem to be at least partly intended to improve the kind of tabletop local multiplayer on the go the console was originally advertised as capable of.
Day one purchase... if I can get one, that is.
@chapu2006 my V2 Switch is only a couple of months old and mainly gets used docked but my Lite (which has the improved battery the same as the V2) lasts longer than 2 hours.
Gone are the days of 15+ hours on a Game Boy; battery life on modern handhelds reminds me of my Game Gear from 1991!
I'll be getting one.
Comes out the same week as Super Monkey Ball, and you just KNOW the day I buy that game, my Mum's going to claim the Switch forever...
(See also : I used to have a GameCube)
@Snaplocket It only made online play better cause of the LAN port accessibility, if online play was not your thing or your online provider is still crap this dock won't impress you. The 4K thing is still just a rumor, there are still ways Nintendo could make this upscale to 4K through a firmware update but I doubt it would be as good as what it could be had it got 4K natively.
Exactly what I wanted. No major changes, no exclusive games
BOTW Sequel to my normal Switch, yes!!
Nintendo is that one person at the potluck who only brought paper towels.
Just what I was hoping! Nintendo isn't splitting up their Switch audience with games that some people can and can't play. Just bring a real successor in like 2 years with PS4-quality graphics.
If there is no performance increase then no point in a re-purchase for me, would have been instant pre-order if there was cause the other features are nice enough additions.
I can rest easy now knowing that I won't have to buy this new model.
Maybe a few years down the line, when Switch Next is announced...
This is underwhelming. Though, I do a lot of streaming and screen sharing in the house with other platforms, so the LAN support would be nice. If it's compatible with older docks, then doubly so. I mainly use my Lite, and my original model stays docked because of a screen scratch and some pretty bad joycon drift. I could see myself getting this as a replacement. Of course, I shouldn't plan this anytime soon, since we all know new Nintendo products get snatched by scalpers within minutes.
@dkxcalibur Tbh, except for maybe some of the 2017 owners like me who still have the pitiful battery life of only 2.5~ hours when playing BOTW. Plus the larger screen and improved kickstand clearly feels like improvements aimed at the Switch's purposed of supporting local multiplayer on the go.
The Switch is ultimately still selling like hotcake so it's aimed at new rather than existing owner. Which is likely why it's NOT stronger so as not to create a divide between future and existing users, particularly the many who're not ready to upgrade or might have just gotten a Switch this year(that include multiple friends of mine already who would have pissed for a Pro to be released as "the" new Switch just after they got a Switch for the first time this very year).
And judging by how many Switch were sold this year and the last already, that would have been a lot of players pissed off at having purchased the "wrong" version of the console.
Releases 10/8? So assuming that's American then it's 8th October? Seems a bit early to be killing off sales of the current model by announcing this. I'll definitely be buying though as my launch Switch is knackered and falling apart (it's never been dropped or roughly treated, but it does get daily use).
Well, I hope at least joy cons will be still drifting
shrugs Not an under the hood upgrade. But the bigger screen and wider kickstand is welcomed. I'll see how my OG Switch is kicking by the time October comes along. Eventually, I would love to upgrade to this
Underwhelmed. Even if there were absolutely no rumors of a Switch Pro, I would have been hopping for more than just a better screen.
Not terribly disappointing though, at the very least, it's a product where you know exactly what you are going to get.
@Pod
I'll not try to conceal my disappointment. I was all set to plunk down for a New 4k Switch and forget all other systems. This is a bit of a let down. In time I may upgrade, but this isn't the end-all of hybrids I was expecting. It's nice-ish.
Really Happy about this being the famous Swith Pro after all the rumours. Now I know I can continue using my completely fine and working Switch (bought on 2017) without missing potential exclusives or an important hardware update. This seems to be just a stetical upgrade.
@Andigaming Tbh considering how much the previous model sold just the last year, it's best that way.
I have friends who would have been pissed off to find themselves having purchased the "wrong" console if a stronger one had to release only months after.
Considering the matter of component supplies logistics, this is probably just another refresh(like 2019) purely to ensure the continuity of production, in case some components were aout to stop being produced by the suppliers, while retaining capabilities as close to the original as possible.
Now we can drift OLED Style and enjoy crisp 480p 15 fps Breath of the Wild. Whoop whoop!
This feels like a stability update to the hardware rather then anything worth being excited about…
To all of you who bully the old version of Switch , and wanted BOTW 2 to be exclusive to the "Pro" model that will never come , go a walk to a park and take a deap breath, better ?
This may be the most 'Nintendo' thing Nintendo has ever done.
@lateral_centro minus the LAN adapter
I go to the store for one hour and THIS happens!!!
Wow, what a complete waste of money and total disappointment. Lol they can't even up the specs for it to display docked level resolution in handheld mode? Now this means we won't be getting a true Pro iteration for another 2 years...
I wonder how long before they phase out the 2019 model and $350 becomes the standard price?
Great for those who prefer the portable mode. For me, life is simpler because I know I’ll be waiting for a bigger leap in hardware from Nintendo and save some money for now. My only disappointment is that BotW 2 will probably be only targeting the current level of hardware. Here’s hoping Prime 4 also targets a higher end device too.
And to be clear I was not hoping for any game to be exclusive to some new hardware I just want a higher end option.
Doesn't seem like a Switch Pro at all, but the listed upgrades seem nice.
@BlackenedHalo
Ahh, bummer. Screen is nice but hardly the upgrade I was hoping for.
@hanp01 The kickstand is literally a stability upgrade
@Ludovsky
I mean that is on them if this had been a pro version, with minimal research they would have known the potential for a pro model and considering it is 4 years old it isn't farfetched.
Could have at least had the newer model give extended battery life in handheld mode.
I guess there could be a power upgrade inside that actually means games DO run at the screens native resolution, 720 and 1080, compared to what we usually get which is still much less docked or handheld
@rjejr
The price depends on how much I can get for my regular Switch and the extra I have to put on top. If it’s worth it I may go for it 🤷🏻♂️
@HamatoYoshi I should have clarified furhter. Slightly better battery than launch model. Same as 2019 revision. (edited post for clarity)
@superpotion There isn't
@Jokerwolf I can't believe that others aren't more vocal about how poorly the joycons are built! Better graphics are great and all, but having to buy new $80 controllers every 6-12 months is making me question my continued support of Nintendo. Outside of the original NES, every Nintendo System IMO has been built strong and dependable. Outside of buying a replacement battery for my "NEW" 3DS, I have never needed anything fixed or replaced, nor have I needed to buy a new controller because the original stopped working.
Bare minimum and maximum sales. Must be nice to be Nintendo these days.
Truly the Apple of game consoles Nintendo has become
Hahahaha that's what you people get for believing everything you read lol
Wow, what a lazy upgrade. I was expecting a New3DSXL like update which was actually really good but I guess this means Nintendo want Switch 2 to look like a really big jump within the next 2 years.
This makes me happy, no need to upgrade now.
Bumper balls confirmed form Mario party all stars!!
I'm bizarrely happy as it stands...
Absolutely no need to upgrade for me... Great news!!
Lol now people will hopefully shut up
The Switch Pro is finally here with DLSS 4K RTX support that all these sites and youtubers like Digital Foundry and Modern Vintage Gamer swore it would have just like how over a decade ago sites swore that the 3DS would be as powerful as the Xbox 360.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/06/rumour_3ds_could_rival_ps3_and_360_in_power_stakes
Wow, I guess I'll stick with my OLED PS Vita.
@RupeeClock They probably improved it. The fact they don't say the exact version and clocking rate of the processor makes it seem like a little improvement could have been made overall.
This seems like they don't want to make current Switch owners feel left out, so they don't actually talk about the better processor it has.
Kinda figured they weren't going to shake up the ecosystem.
They made a sexier model to be sure, but the only gains assume you play off-TV, or have a LAN set up. More storage is... nice? But 64 is still far cry from what we're able to add, and they could add for way less at a production scale than we'd ever pay.
Switch "Semi Pro".
Still want one from the Fatman at Christmas... Yes I will buy it for myself.
Not enough for me to justify upgrading yet! Looks lovely
@Trmn8r At least this makes it easier for devs to handle, making it more powerful means dev will have to work extra harder to make two versions of their game just so it'll run on both versions. If they made it exclusively to the new version, the people who own the old version will complain and not going to buy the game thus losing profit. If the dev made the game with the old version, it'll still work on the new version but it won't take advantage of the extra horsepower thus a wasted opportunity. This is why not many people bought the New 3DS XL and why many devs doesn't make games exclusively for it.
All I really want is a joy-con "pro". With the sturdiest analog sticks ever devised by man. Then I'm in.
Yeah unless they're upgrading the performance I'll hold off until my switch is busted, which probably won't be for a good while.
@Ludovsky So just to be clear, all I really wanted was Joycons that don't drift. That's all. Everything else would be great I guess, but shelling out $80 to keep replacing Joycons is wrong.
@AlexSora89 THANK YOU!!!! Me too!
I find this funny more than anything. If I need a replacement, it will be something to consider.
Just gimme the dock and joycons and I'm good. lol
While this is welcome, Nintendo could have added more power and 4k. They have missed an opportunity Those who wanted 4k and power would have paid the extra.
This new Switch will eventually replace the existing one, once stocks have been depleted.
Looks great. I'm kind of glad there's no extra processing power, since we don't have to worry about "Switch Pro exclusive" games.
Oh boy, of course everyone’s complaining. I don’t know what people were expecting, Nintendo said the Switch was only halfway through it’s life cycle in January so they wouldn’t have released a new console.
@Dr_Corndog Me too.
The new i phone commercial looks great.
Seriously though, why a friggin wired lan port wasnt in the original release is beyond me. Nintendo is slowly becoming worse and worse.
Looks like if an of those rumors about a more powerful Switch are true, we'll be waiting until a full fledged Switch 2.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi Not really, as Series S/X are showing, as long as Nintendo makes it easy to scale like Microsoft is doing. They could've at least pushed the already existing, docked level resolution out the OLED screen. A new iteration of 720p OLED is just inexcusable.
Splitting the software user base. Upscaling older games with machine learning. Asking developers to backport games to higher resolutions. All very un-Nintendo strategies.
Based on Nintendo's historical release cadence, the Switch 2 is a year away - but largely dependent on chip prices.
Lol I love how people are mad at this. Did you really think it was gonna be more than a big screen
Super glad the upgrade isn’t as major as the “leaks” were saying! Now I can stick with my base switch and not be jealous of OLED Model owners!
Definitely don't need this at all, and I'm very relieved.
@Jackpaza0508 this was my first thought too. People seem to have money burning a whole in their pocket they can't wait to get rid of. I'd rather spend money on games than consoles. I approve this news. Love my Switch.
"We probably should've had a bigger kickstand, a LAN port, used an OLED screen, and pushed the screen up to the border of the device back when we launched in 2017" -Nintendo Staffer
"How bout we do that now and sucker people into buying the same thing twice!?" - Nintendo Financial Advisor
Can I just get those Joycon, please!?!?
@Duffman92
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/02/as_switch_hits_the_middle_of_its_life_cycle_nintendo_is_confident_it_will_overtake_the_wii
It might be a while until we get it’s successor.
I'm glad its not something I "need" to buy, it's a revision which is cool, if my switch break's I'll upgrade to this as my switch playtime has shifted more towards handheld play (but not completely)
@Ghost_of_Hasashi so its third version
@JokerCK It’s not called Switch Pro... so no. I’m so sad everyone believes these rumours.
@rjejr
Right on. I'm getting one. Even an extra 32 GB is appreciated as I have 2 full 1TB micro SD cards and keep an extra in the kickstand.
Seems the more powerful model is for next gen
@sanderev im not counting lite
I wonder if they will have a Metroid version since it is coming out the same day. The new switch is a little underwhelming but they wouldn't make huge changes to the system when its still selling well. I am also guessing its using the same processor from the refreshed switches since its seems to have the same battery life but then again this a different screen so who knows.
I literally only wanted more storage. And this thing only has a little more storage. Like seriously what the heck? I can’t play super smash bros ultimate without having only 3 other games on my 2018 switch.
Guess the mclassic really was a great purchase for the switch since this new one doesn't have any more power for better graphics. For anyone who wants a switch "pro" I highly recommend one
@Ghost_of_Hasashi Yep, not everyone wants to buy a new Switch console a few years after they bought their first JUST so they can play BotW2.
It looks really nice. I'm glad Nintendo isn't doing a Pro model, where some games would be exclusive ala New 3DS. Still, I'd prob find news of Netflix for Switch more exciting.
No 4K support. That’s… brave
@Aliteralturnip alright im biting here, why not get an micro sd card and triple your basic storage for like 30 bucks?
Same crap joy cons, pass!
@Trmn8r Microsoft doesn't make handheld though. Also Nintendo had already tried this with the New 3DS and New 3DS XL both of which are superior models than the original 3DS but not only are devs not making games for it, not many consumers want to upgrade as not many exclusive games were made for it. All it got were just Wii and Wii U ports which also doesn't help. Why would Nintendo repeat this same mistake if it doesn't work not to mention it would benefit them better if they made a successor instead?
@McGruber Same, Nintendo will save that to the next iteration I am guessing versus bolting it on and having few developers actually use it.
@sanderev I could see this coming a mile away. Hilarious.
@Olmectron
This is baseless speculation though.
I can also speculate that they could be using the exact same processor, but undo the underclocking that the Switch system is infamously known for.
@BabyYoda71 No way on planet earth were they ever going to make BoTW 2 "Switch Pro" exclusive. That's simply not even a possibility. Most Zelda's they release cross generation even. A Pro iteration would've just been an upscaled resolution version with maybe a few extra visual bells and whistles while still releasing on the regular Switch.
@BabyYoda71 hey i didn't believe that rumor either. I am just joking calm down.
@Slowdive
Since the screen is bigger while the resolution is the same, I very much doubt that the display will be sharper.
@Moonlessky
I actually do have one but super smash bros ultimate takes up a lot of space when it’s digital so the Sd card doesn’t help that much
@benchan There's really nothing XL about this Switch, all you get are more storage and a higher size screen. Everything else are just features they could had easily include for the old Switch from day one which they purposely left out.
What good is a nicer screen for handheld mode if it has the same trash joycons?
I’m fine with my switch lite, I don’t trust those joycons xxx
Nintendo never promised a Switch Pro with improved performance. Go and ask the "insiders" for it if you want that, they were the ones who promised it. 😏
@Ghost_of_Hasashi Being handheld has nothing to do with this at all. The problem with that was Nintendo making exclusive games for it rather than having just better visual iterations of games that release on both. And it's easier to do when you are working with games that aren't "3D" anymore. Games like Doom, Skyrim and others are already being downscaled to play on Switch. It wouldn't be that hard to still scale down to both. And like I said, not even doing existing docked level resolution on this iteration is unacceptable.
@sanderev again same here
I love Metroidvania games in side scrolling style (as they should be)
So mainly handheld. Bigger screen in the same body size is super
So so glad it's just another redundant model. Id hate to have to spend any more than i already had to with the original switch
@DeclanS98,
Core minority delusion at best, the console will keep on selling as it is, with only minor tweaks.
@JokerCK Ah sorry. I’m just replying to the random comments I see.
@Trmn8r I’ve seen people predict it, sadly. Even if it wasn’t BotW2, most people here expected there to be some Switch Pro exclusives. I think I’m one of the only people who remembers the Switch is in the middle of it’s life cycle, so I’ve always been sceptical of a new Switch console.
@Clyde_Radcliffe That made me laugh aloud. 👏
@Slowdive I know I was sceptical about the more powerful/'Pro' end rumours, but I'm surprised as well. It does feel more of an attempt to fix a couple of the design misses from 2017, and maybe improve the Switch's reputation as Nintendo's most plasticky product
@RupeeClock Yeah. I really hope it turns into a monster when docked with 8K output like the rumors said. That would be wild.
It would automatically upscale everything to 8K and output very detailed games like it has a NVIDIA RTX 3090. I could even use it as my main PC with homebrew, I guess.
I had zero expectation of a switch pro. It made no sense to segment customers. Also 4k games would've meant much larger download files which I do not want. This is a much better update. Great job nintendo!
So the real question is, does it run games the same when it's undocked? A lot of games run horribly undocked on the OG switch, which is especially frustrating when playing online games.
@danemord as one of those people, I can say that I'm genuinely surprised. Of course, this new model doesn't seem to have 4K or any increase in performance when docked like people were so sure of before E3 season, when the rumors were at a fever pitch. So maybe we can just buy the White Dock and Joy Con for our non-OLED Switches.
Wait....where the heck is the extra horsepower.....this can't be right
I was really hoping for a Switch Pro as of recently but... I wished there was more spec features like shorter loading times or better graphics... I barely use my Switch in anything other than TV mode, so LAN being a feature is nice, but more of a niche than anything. Maybe they will make another model that focuses more on specs in the future!
@HamatoYoshi any improvement on specs are going to be saved for switch 2 which is basically 2 years away so this announcements just proves switch pro is not happening.
@BabyYoda71 I was expecting the equivalent of a mid gen "pro" version, akin to what Sony (PS4 Pro) and Microsoft (One X) did last gen. Still the same games across both, but some visual resolution/performance improvements and features. This is the same resolution with different screen... But now we know this is just a worthless revision for existing owners and we will just be waiting 2 more years for Switch 2.
@BananaBoy640 where basically 2 years away from switch 2 just wait till then and besides i rather not have nintendo get into bad habits like sony and microsoft does by pumping out mid upgrades every few years.
Is old dock compatible with Switch Oled and is the new dock compatible with old Switch ?
I will save for a 4K unit. This small upgrade isn't enough to justify getting this model for the price tag.
Providing the dock works for both then it's a guaranteed buy for me, although having Nintendo on the box pretty much does that.
And a very big 'HA HA HA' to all the people that listened to the rumours and are now disappointed about a missing detail, more fool you.
If you own a switch , this basically become useless which im fine with
Welp, that won't justify an upgrade. I like the new dock though!
@dew12333 hAhAhA! Let's celebrate a meaningless revision instead of an actual improvement! Yay us... SMDH
This is the smartest move that Nintendo could make. Release an upgrade that will not separate the audience. All games and accessories can be played on all devices in the Switch family. This is just going to push the console higher in total units sold in comparison to the Nintendo DS. This should help the Switch sell about 160 million units when it's all said and done.
@Amin_Parker You mean release an upgrade that isn't even an upgrade?
People expecting this revision to suddenly jump up to 4K have lost the plot. The cost alone would be insane never mind Nintendo's snail like pace to updating to new technology.
I'm surprised there is no power upgrade. I wasn't expecting 4k 60 FPS but I was hoping to be able to play games like BOTW without the random huge FPS drops. There are certain areas in that game that never reach 30 FPS. I at least figured we would get a modest power boost to enhance the performance of current games.
I definitely won't be buying this and will hold out for a proper revision.
so how many articles has NL written switch pro coming soon switch pro next quater etc etc. People said they will just improve screen. Taking bets how long before the switch pro oled articles start.
@grougrou
Same.
Switch 2 I guess in a few years whenever the shortages end... If ever.
To me it's the same as announcing a white color switch. That's it...
Awesome. That means no exclusives and I can keep my current switch comfortably for the next 3-4 years and play all the upcoming games without needing to upgrade. Thats all I wanted.
Looking back at all the Switch Pro rumors, they appear to have nailed some of the cosmetic elements (7-inch OLED screen, better kickstand, LAN port, same dimensions as current Switch) but got the internal completely wrong (no DLSS, 4K support, better CPU/memory).
I can only assume 1 of 3 things:
1) The rumored upgraded hardware specs are completely bogus, despite the rumored cosmetic upgraded being completely correct
2) The rumored upgraded hardware specs exist on the Switch 2 that will release a few years down the line, but somebody heard about those details and thought it was going to in this Switch OLED
3) The rumored upgraded hardware specs exist on the Switch Pro that will release a year down the line, but somebody heard about those details and thought it was going to in this Switch OLED
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Why must Nintendo make us wait longer for a the switch pro! They made us wait for a long time, and they tried to make us feel better and release a newer switch model so that we could wait... LONGER!!! Yes, it is a very nice version of the switch, but still, why make us wait longer!!
@Slowdive I reckon this could make an Orin upgrade more likely, as I don't think Orin will be ready until 2022 at the earliest. But we may have to wait another year plus for a really upgraded Switch,
Edit: added 'could'
@Trmn8r The not scale it to dock resolution make sense though, portable PC themselves couldn't even support resolution higher than 720p. Portable PCs like the AYA Neo, GPD Win 3, and OneXPlayer all had overpower specs but kept the resolution at 720p. Through docking they could go up to 4K, the only portable PC that did feature 1080p in Portable mode is the Smach Z which the Phawx had test run.
Though it works on a 1080p resolution, the framerates suffer dropping down to even 15fps and had tremendous amount of input lags and performance latency. This is why all portable PC now only capped at 720p so the framerate could stay steady reducing input lag and keep latency low. This is also why Switch is capped at 720p and all high tech phones are capped at that resolution as well. The reason the Smach Z never got release was cause of that resolution issue.
They try so hard to go ahead but in the end failed cause the tech just wasn't there yet and still isn't. They used modern gen tech and specs but try to go forward with resolution which just doesn't work very well on a portable scale yet. They also had to deal with cooling and battery issue as well cause doing 1080p, that made the thing heat up too fast which obviously not good for portable on the go play and suck up battery faster than a Game Gear which also not good for portable play.
@Trmn8r this is the reason why not to trust rumors people end up getting burned which proved to be true after this announcemnt.
I'm fine with my launch Switch then. My wallet lives to see another day, thanks Nintendo!
this isn't the rumoured Switch Pro, it's just a normal switch with OLED screen. and more expensive! there's another device in the works (Nvidia Orin based) but whether that's the Pro or Switch 2 and when that comes remains to be seen.
This is sleek as heck! Love it. A few journos and leakers are sweating right now lol. If anyone is disappointed by this, they only have themselves to blame lol.
So this is simply called Switch OLED?! And is that all the improvements? It even still has driftcon issues in all probability. No improvements or upgrading of processing power? How underwhelming! Not going to upgrade any time soon.
We set ourselves up for disappointment. I have a base model from 2017, so I may bite for better battery life. Hopefully the price isn't ridiculous. Also wonder how pokemon Arceus will do with no help from new hardware? Maybe they should delay that game so we get a competent release
how much will this cost anyways?
@Rich10 Feels a little more like "I'll take your dildo Nintendo."
@Cikajovazmaj I'm right there with you.
Interesting… Here’s my take. I truly do believe a switch Pro is coming. But not yet. It’s like Apple releasing an S version of their iPhone line before the next big release. They need to buy time and snag sales for Christmas
What a pathetic, uninspired shame! I would have been more excited to hear that Mario got an Only Fans page than this Switch 2.5.1 announcement.
@Trmn8r I celebrate pretty much anything nintendo do which is pretty much what I said in my comment. What I feel about this new revision is very little really, like you say there isn't much of an upgrade, but my old switch is getting a bit clunky now and I also play in two rooms so I would have bought another switch. Now I can do my usual of getting any new nintendo console on day one and get the new switch anyway.
Was you hoping the upgrade was going to be enough so you could get COD and GTA on it, lol
No change to docked mode, I’ll stick with my launch switch. I’m kind of relieved.
My Switch is semi broken so I’ll probably buy one. I can’t deny I’m disappointed it’s not more powerful, but I love oled screens.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi I’ve been following the news, thanks for parroting what the site is already reporting on. I’m still disappointed that it’s just a screen update and not something that can play the software in an improved state.
As someone who plays nearly exclusively in handheld, the larger screen & far superior OLED is really going to be nice. This is definitely not a upgrade most Switch owners need, especially those with the v2 Switch. If you are a day 1 OG Switch owner (like myself) or looking to buy your 1st Switch, this is easily the way to go.
Side question: so what game gets the OLED Switch special edition first? Pokemon: BD/SP, Metroid Dread, BotW2, etc?
This was never going to be 4k. Pipe dream! Why would they care? Nintendo games sell looking like they do now, slightly upgraded Wii U games.
@alwaysasn general consumer doesn't give a flying f##k about specs mate
Well done nintnedo you just made the worst mid console upgrade ever 😂 seriously though.... What's the point?
@TMNHertl my thoughts exactly
I'd very surprised if this does not launch with a Metroid Dread limited edition Switch OLED.
I guess I can finally upgrade the micro SD on my regular switch if this is all the next model will be
i am absolutely basking in the misery of everyone who blindly believed all the articles on this site, got whipped into a frenzy, went into full “Gamer Mode” complete with unrealistic expectations and even a totally fake name (Switch Pro)
when it comes to consumer products let this be a lesson.
A couple of things:
1) Nintendo seems have learned a lesson from the "New" 3ds mess that segregated the community because of games that ran like trash or not at all on the original model.
2) This allows people to ease into getting an updated system, although it's not necessary if you're content with your current set-up.
Well-played, Nintendo, well-played.
Not going to rush to get it. Might get it for Xmas or even next year, after my Switch turns five in April
Not impressed. I'm still going to get it since I could use the upgrade (had my Switch since day one) but they could have done more with it. Ah well...
I play exclusively so the better screen isn’t that exciting. I do like the white color of the joy-cons though.
Soooo not much is changing eh!
Thank goodness I don't need a new system for Botw2 (and the titles after it). And the same rubbish analogue sticks I see?
A wonder though that it isn't a new Switch Lite model. I thought, maybe they are phasing out the system with the detachable joy-cons?
What a complete letdown... The fact that they aren't addressing joy-con drift whatsoever in this model, even quietly with a new design for the control stick, is just pathetic at this point.
@ChandlerKeith19 Yeah, I'm quite confused about the graphics part since it's basically the only rumor that wasn't true... unless it was mistaken with a successor to Nintendo Switch
The one day I don't check this first thing, and this happens!
I ran to all the store carts and don't see pre-orders. I assume they haven't opened yet? Do we know anything about when they do open? (It's probably answered above, but I figured I'd race to the comments before using my brain because this is the internet.)
@Willsy I couldn't disagree more. I've worked in consumer electronics for over a decade. General consumer doesn't care about CPU names our voltage, but the very much care about YoY changes to devices.
Switch came out 4 years ago. 4k was still relatively niche.
But today most new TVs are 4k standard. Consumer doesn't care about the custom Tegra chip, but they Def care about if this new one will give them the new features everyone else touts.
@marnelljm Where you at buddy? Remember a few weeks back you said Nintendo wouldn't release anything. I see you hiding now huh? Ahahahaha LMAO!
@dew12333 I was hoping they could do the existing docked 1080p on handheld in the year 2021. But no, a 720p OLED in 2021 is totally acceptable.... Durr yeah I wanted muh GTA V and CODs.. I So mAd I gets no CODs... Ok Bro...
@Nin10Doe They were right. This is essentially nothing.
ALSO......
Incoming switch lite OLED
@Nin10Doe Not a 4k model, so no it’s not a “Switch Pro”. Still holding that L son.
No, thank you. My old 32 gb is fine, thanks.
@infernogott Well, at least they've focused on what's important and improved the screen and sound which I never use, for fear of messing up my joy con...
@Ghost_of_Hasashi Huh? My outdated Galaxy S9 displays 2k (1440p). There is no excuse to not push the already docked 1080p on an OLED screen more than twice as big as my phone.
@rjejr Well, we got the name wrong, since February 2017. It's not Switch Pro, or -=NEW=- Nintendo Switch, or Super Switch, or Switch Go. It's Nintendo Switch (OLED Model). Do I win the cookie? I got it closest. I said it would be called Nintendo Switch (newest version). That's kinda close, right?
What's sad is, because that's all they did, we STILL have to fight off all the "There is no Switch Pro, Nintendo will never launch a Switch Pro" naysayers on a daily basis even while they launch the new machine.
Also, a new screen, new speakers, and the LAN port Sakurai told everyone they needed 3 years ago. That's it, thank you for watching!
I’ll just stick with my perfect condition current one.
Maybe 5% of my playtime is handheld. And my battery capacity is still nearly full. While the OLED would look amazing, I don’t see the point of upgrading to this since I wouldn’t get to enjoy it 95% of the time.
i think $349 is probably fair for this new unit. Bigger screen, double the onboard storage etc. A true Switch Pro would have been more, like $399 or higher. They should have called it Switch XL or something. I am not surprised at no increase in processing power etc. They never really took advantage of the New 3DS power increase. Even though I think the price is fair, I will not being buying the OLED version. I have q Lite for handheld play and a regular Switch for playing on the TV. I'd rather use a Lite since its weight is lighter.
This is a pretty sleek model. I play undocked so the bigger and better screen is a major plus. As is the improved storage.
So, i can see the pixel with more color? Come on… i’m waiting for a little cpu bump! 😭
@grougrou @rob3r7o well there is written only "custom tegra proccesor" not which specific tegra rpoccesor. it could be newer more powerful one than the one in current switch v2
@UltimateOtaku91 I mean it has a lan port. Sakurai politely said Smash sucks without a lan port. So there's that?
Quietly, I assume there's a slight hardware upgrade inside. There always is. They're just not advertising it and it's not "notable" but I'm going to bet the eShop actually runs smoothly on it for example. Some games probably end up with smoother framerates as well (something tells me MH Stories 2 was designed for this hardware. It runs on Switch like it's running on "the old model") But I bet it has a modest performance bump at least for the UI and eShop at a minimum. Currently it's embarrassing, and that was a main stated reason for N3DS.
But basically, yeah, it's just a handheld with a screen that isn't hot garbage. So I'm interested, to me Switch is just a handheld. When I'm sitting on the couch I reach for the XB/PS unless it's a special game.
Huh, neat. Think I'll stick with my current model though. I picked up a 400GB micro SD awhile back so my storage concerns are a distant memory. The bigger screen is cool, but I never had issue with the screen size on the standard model.
Oh wow it has a new kickstand! Better go out and buy it!
This upgrade is weak. The system needs more horsepower.
People here sad/angry/dissapointed that the Super Mega Pro Switch RUMOR was only that, a RUMOR.
Why would Nintendo release a new switch with improved processing when it is selling that crazy? That will happen when sales start to go down which is not the case.
This goes in line with the revisions they do to their mobile hardware (the Switch is still a mobile console) just giving it small improvements until the successor comes.
And that will take some time.
People that are disappointed by this might fail to realize that the Switch is still selling like sliced bread and there is no incentive for Nintendo to catch up on the power, resolution and what not.
This is a nice upgrade for people that still did not get a NSW, or looking for some on the go upgrades, or better connectivity (Lan) and better internal storage, making sure, they can have all those titles that require further downloads, without quickly resorting to an SD card.
I am also one of the few rocking a HD ready TV, because I inherited it from my late father and don't see the need to upgrade and produce more ewaste. I'd wager that there are some households equally not rocking a better tv either for the lack if funds or necessity, but ai contend that this is mere speculation.
Also people seem to forget that the console is still more or less a tablet and will never display 4k, or close to it. 1440p will probably also be out of reach with an updated console, too.
At the end of the day, I just want to plug in a cartridge and play a game, which the Switch does.
My problem with the Pro model rumors has always been - what processor is gonna power it? For the original Switch, it was obvious they'd use Nvidia's silicone that was already in the Shield (TV and tablet) product range at that time. But I follow Android news and afaik there hasn't been any successor to the Tegra chip that's been announced in the intervening years. In fact I have no idea if Nvidia has any interest in producing a mobile-focused processor with good graphical capabilities again, because the Android tablet market simply isn't lucrative enough to warrant such an investment imho, that's why they haven't released any new tablet models in years.
To all the optimistic people saying this OLED model will be sightly upgraded computing-wise, which SOC are you betting on?
@Trmn8r At least it plays Fortnite for you kiddo
Just a new screen? No upgraded resolution or anything? Lame. I can't see this running games the base Switch couldn't, so the rumor about third parties pushing Nintendo to reveal this so they could reveal exclusive games sounds like BS now. Welp, we can look forward to evaporating third party support.
People in the comments here are actually ANGRY that rumors turned out to be false? What is wrong with you?
I don't want to defend Nintendo or something, but the expectations where never build up by Nintendo themselves. Just by a bunch of internet weirdos that need content.
Hopefully this will be a lesson for the future.
@Gamecuber 1080p handheld would eat a lot of battery, and on a 7" screen it's not that noticeable. Oled on the same resolution will still look miles ahead of the current models.
Crud. Knew I should’ve waited a year for a second ACNH island on another Switch.
If they had fixed the hot mess that are the joy con(which would be super strange to not announce, since it's an infamous hiccup), I would've bought this simply out of celebration.
I play handheld almost entirely and can't exactly say I'm excited for this. Not a thing in this is worth $50 more when the og model should've dropped in price to give way for this to enter at the current $300 tag at least.
It is kind of hilarious though that, maybe minus the screen size(the 6.2 we currently have is pretty nice size wise as is), everything offered here is what the og model should've been, as some others have stated.
@Dpullam Yeah at this point in time it isn't worth the upgrade, maybe if my current one ever dies I would get this one but otherwise probably not, just not enough new features to justify it.
Good QoL upgrade. The people disappointed are the ones watching and reading these rumor bloggers everyday who make money to over-hype things that aren't confirmed.
Wow this is crap. They are just upgrading the regular ones screen and going to put these it instead of the old model I guess. They better not try to charge more for this.
You have to use your hands? That's just like a baby toy.
I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of the pandemic effecting availability of DLSS and so on… but I would have rather them just not release this and wait till next year when a better model comes out anyway for BotW2 and Pokemon Arceus.
This is the 3DS XL of the Switch range, great for handheld gamers, but docked gamers should wait.
Yeah, people were like "it would be cool if Nintendo treated the Switch like Apple does the iPhone. Just frequent and incidental improvements. That's the future of consoles instead of massive overhauls that are incompatible with previous generations."
And then they went and did it.
@BenAV at least your letting people know you're one of THOSE people
This is exactly what I feared would happen. A pointless halfway house of a SKU that does nothing new. This is literally just a waste of time... albeit continuing to cash in on the existing Switch games.
I'm passing on this and will wait for the new Switch in what is likely at least 3 years time now. As I said... what a waste of time.
This has massively reduced my excitement for BotW2 although I still expect it to be great. It has rendered my interest in Metroid Prime 4 null and void at this time.
Told y'all they were not stupid enough to split the fan base again. Can we please,shut up about switch pro now?
@MsJubilee that can't be used in handheld....yay?
1:09, that's some haircut lol.
"We first heard whispers of a 'Switch Pro' way back in January 2019, with various sources believing such a console was just around the corner." I was attacked on online gaming forums for my "poor decision" to buy a Switch in March of 2018 because "the Switch Pro" was going to be announced "tomorrow" and I was going to be "sorry." No, I am absolutely not sorry for buying a Switch when I did.
These features are great for the primarily handheld gamer, but as someone who primarily plays on TV, and is too far from the router to run a cable, I shall happily pass.
I use my switch mostly in head held mode, so am tempted but gutted it’s not a pro.
@twztid13 Ikr? I wish they would shut up. I've heard about the Switch Pro since 2018.
I love my switch but I don't think this is worth buying a new console for. For $250 though, I'll be getting the new Intellivision in October, packaged with 2 full controllers and some games making it just right to play with my kids. Each to their own though I guess
@dew12333 Oh, you are trying to be funny. Well, you tried.
How boring.
And surprising to be honest. I guess shame on me for believing in the rumors. But watch how the Pro rumors still won't die after this.
If my Switch Lite were to bite the dust, I would consider getting this, since I am primarily a handheld user. No need for me to upgrade at this point though.
@Dpullam my launch version is still going strong. I didn't even use handheld mode until recently, & don't use it that often, so this model is definitely not worth 350$ more for me when that can go towards a ps5 or series x when i can find one. If they fixed joycon drift, maybe it would be enticing, but i imagine those same joycon would be available for the OG model at some point. They would have learned 0 lessons if they split the user base again. I'm glad to see they aren't that dumb, personally.
@Deviant-Dork One of what people?
If you don't have a Switch yet then this is obviously the one to get. However, unless Nintendo lowers the price of Switch and Switch Lite, the OLED Edition is probably cost around £400, and I can't justify spending that when my current Switch serves me perfectly well.
@VenomousAlbino another site said $349 was msrp, US.
Hmm well this is a relief in a way - I won't have to invest in a mid-gen upgrade as long as my launch Switch keeps hanging in there and has full compatibility with the game library.
@dkxcalibur buy new controllers every 6-12 months? What about warranties and contact cleaner?
i feel like we're being punished for all the switch pro rumors and leaks we've been hyping up. i already have a switch so if i get an OLED it'd just be for the novelty of having a more sleek switch
You guys are getting mad about some rumor that never came to fruition? This is why rumors are bad. You're all expecting a 4K model with improved hardware when Nintendo never mentioned or promised it? The rumor mill is toxic for a reason. It gets everyone's hopes up for months, some times years, and they get mad at the company when they never promised any of it. This is what Nintendo has ALWAYS done with their hardware with usually never any performance improvements. The internet makes no sense.
Plus this is geared towards those who don't own a Switch yet. And......you're all still getting mad? We will never see any performance improvements until they're ready for their next-gen system. Like always...they did this with the GameBoy, GBA, DS, and only with the New 3DS XL did they improve upon performance, and literally no one took advantage of it.
No biggie, I will simply continue to buy multiplatform games on 60fps-capable systems, until Nintendo makes it a priority for a future Switch console.
@VenomousAlbino https://www.tomsguide.com/news/nintendo-switch-oled?_ga=2.61225898.787469226.1625587915-amp-u6lou_QE1JMrAkf5Q2uZ8g
October 8th for $349
As a guy that works from home this is very meh.... I play docked 99% of the time.. Oh well guess I can get the ps5 sooner since I was holding off on that partly cause I thought I'd be buying a replacement for my launch switch
@Gryzor Their priority is NEVER FPS. Their systems stay cheaper because of hardware being lower performance. It's about the games anyways isn't it in the end? So, I guess you'll never buy a Nintendo platform ever again if you stick with those standards. Buy a gaming PC. Even PlayStation and Xbox hardly ever hit 60FPS without cuts to visual quality.
@ivory_soul I can't believe people thought it would make business sense for Nintendo to split the user base again. They released what 1 title for new 3ds... That was a waste of all those investment dollars. It would make absolutely zero sense for Nintendo to do this. People trust the random posters who have an interest in you thinking they are "cool" for 2 months. People are strange.
@Purgatorium so true 🤣
@twztid13 There were a few other games that were New 3DS only. Minecraft, Hyrule Warriors, Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, and all those games ran terribly on the system and the new performance improvements just weren't enough. So we'd get a 4K Switch model and then what...the 4K capable games would run like garbage. You either go all out with 4K or not at all.
It looks nice, a bit trend-chaser but in a good way. Although battery life seems lower than current standard version.
All that speculation, all those wasted words and articles. It's pretty sad really. At this point I feel Nintendo had a responsibility to come out and say they weren't going to release a Pro version of the switch. I suppose they only decided this fairly recently after the console selling so well and them having no need to split the customer base.
Meh, I was hoping for better performance on the whole, but I'm generally happy with the switch so I don't care that much really.
I was right the switch pro rumors weren’t true, and that this console wouldn’t be 4K capable. The bigger screen seems nice, but other than that I don’t see much of a reason behind getting this.
@ivory_soul I totally agree with you that it's only about the games. Great gameplay often requires 60fps though and I'll only make exceptions for a chosen few Ninty games, that run at 30fps. I already happen to have a PC and a PS5, on which most games offer you to choose between framerate and graphics fidelity.
@marnelljm Nice try moving the goal post. I have screens of you saying Nintendo wouldn't release ANYTHING at all 4K or not. Ahahahaha
@BenAV Lol dont worry, i doubt that'll happen until Nintendo deliberate keep manufacturing low to build hype. Why buy it, i mean...really. A slightly bigger screen and a better kick stand...woop. No reason to upgrade so the only people buying it will be scalpers and die hard Nintendo fan boys.
Love the new dock, and quite liking the white.
Epic fail. That stock is going to plummet lolllll. Im saddened that Nintendo just cant get it together in the hardware dept. smh
@VoidofLight The current one is 6.2" the new one is 7"...No one is going to notice that difference. Just people trying to convince themselves for wasting money haha
@johnvboy Amazon has skins for $24.99cdn haha, save yourself a bunch of money haha
@Old-Red,
Why?, the rumour and speculation have nothing to do with Nintendo, and they stated time and time again there was no new model coming, just because people on the internet refused to believe this, can hardly be Nintendo's fault.
@NeonPizza,
Getting one at launch, if I can get one.
@twztid13 My opinion still stands. That's still £50/$50 more than I paid for my current Switch at launch, which still works perfectly. I'm not paying another £350/$350 for a .8-inch bigger screen, a kickstand I'll never use, better speakers that I'll never use (because in portable I'm either using headphones or with the volume most of the way down), more internal storage (which I don't need), a LAN port I'll never use and more Joy-Cons that'll probably knacker themselves in a few months time.
If my current Switch breaks then I'll replace it with one of these or, like I said, if someone is looking to get their first Switch then the OLED model is absolutely the one to get... but for now, I don't need this.
@earthinheritor,
Want the bigger OLED screen, It's hardly bank breaking.
It looks nice, but I will wait for a Switch 2. The Switch is already 4 years old so it should be soon.
And still no wireless headphone support, which would have made this worth getting (for me). lol, Nintendo.
@earthinheritor Improved screen is quite possibly worth it when I'd be getting thousands of hours out of it though. When I'm on the fence about something I tend to preorder first then decide later just to be on the safe side.
@NeonPizza You can buy white decals super cheap. If you are on the fence I'll give some friendly advice. I'm a huge techy, PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch, High end PC, i have all the cool gadgets, even an 8k, which even i know was pointless but its awesome.
This just isnt worth it.
The screen is less an an inch bigger and you can buy a USB Ethernet Adapter already. You'd be spending hundreds just to change it from black to white when you can get decals.
@sanderev,
Most people will be all over this new model, as they should be.
@BenAV Its really not that big of an improvement though. Less than an inch extra and OLED will make the colours a little more vivid, maybe. But that is literally it.
Why are people so eager to expend money? For one, I'm happy this isn't an upgrade since I just got a PS5 and I was not planning on getting a new console so soon.
@johnvboy Less than an inch bigger..that doesnt seem like a waste to you? Keep in mind the PlayStation Vita, from 2011, had an OLED Screen. It was basically a little bit brighter and the colours for more vivid but only if you compared it to an LCD.
@Jokerwolf switch 2 won’t be out until 2024 or later. The only console that came out in less than 7 years than it’s predecessor was the WiiU to the Switch and I am sure that is because the sales of the WiiU were horrible ( granted I live my WiiU still today ) so I will say 2024.
@TryToBeHopeful Contact cleaner doesn't help when the physical components inside are defective.
Yes, warranties are nice if you're patient.
@ivory_soul i was never interested in Minecraft (so i may have missed that), but Xenoblade Chronicles is the only game that required the new 3ds that i know of. Hyrule warriors only needed it for the 3d mode, I'm pretty sure. But i agree with the point. A new switch, which would be a "2" more than a "pro", would make way more sense, but not in the middle of while the original is selling as good as it is. I understand people want it to be true, but if you think it through, a pro that could olay 4k games wouldn't make sense. Devs would have to make 2 versions of every game,,or make them "pro" exclusive, & that would hurt business & increase casual customer confusion. What worse is all the "journalists" were pushing this story. I realize they go where the clicks take them, but i hate that's what the news business has become. It disregards truth for sensationalism, but i digress. Gamers have more sense than this, or they should, imo.
Nice refined design and loving the white but certainly not enough to make me go and buy it. My day 1 switch is still serving me perfectly.
@Lalivero Why would they announce the current joycons are bad? It's not their MO to crap on their own products... If they ever change the design they're not going to crow about it...
@dkxcalibur the components are defective it’s the design of the joy con and yes contact cleaner helps if you use it right, I have done it on a few joycons and my pro controller.
Well, looks like my 3+ years old model gets a new brother - maybe next years or so. maybe around easter time the price will drop to 300
@VenomousAlbino oh,, sure, i agree. I wasn't trying to dispute you, just giving you information.
Also, the LAN port is for docked only, so that's really not that useful to most people, sadly.
The two year trend remains alive.
2017 — Switch
2019 — Switch Lite, Switch (v2)
2021 — Switch (OLED)
Unlike Sony taking out the OLED of the Vita, Nintendo is adding it in and a couple of extras for $50.
@dkxcalibur Both have worked for me. Never bought a new pair. Not saying you haven't, but I don't think that's typical.
@earthinheritor Even small improvements can be worthwhile when I'm playing the system daily.
@Devlind People have been trained to expect the lifespan of technology to be lower and lower. Nowadays if you have a phone that's more than three years old it's considered too old. Similarly, the switch is 4 years old now so many are ready to move on just for the sake up upgrading.
@earthinheritor exactly, o have a vita oled to this day & the only way most can tell the difference in the newer models is to have it next to a launch model. Otherwise, it doesn't matter to the vast majority of gamers.
@Nin10Doe you have screens of people's NL comments?
@johnvboy I love these meltdowns. The vast majority of punters who pick it up are going to go "oh hey, a white Switch!" and that will be the end of it.
@weisske and sadly, Moore's law is about to finally come to an end thanks to the chip shortage, so that will be a dichotomy, people wanting new devices faster, but the technology will get better at a slower rate.
@progx Thats what you took from that? haha. This isnt Nintendo being nice, this is Nintendo doing the opposite of what fans wanted and the fan boys are praising them for it.
Sony dropped the OLED because LCD was easier and quicker to manufacture and, at the time, LCD was far more reliable and easier to make slimmer to the second gen vita could be slimmer than the original. They didnt drop it to be dicks, they dropped it but it made sense to drop it.
Wow, I was excited for a new Nintendo Switch with faster hardware but I guess Nintendo thinks all the games with stuttering, low fps dips and no 4k are perfectly fine. I just can't believe Nintendo didn't reveal this for handheld users mainly and then a Nintendo Switch Pro with better hardware for other people. Very disappointed.
No 4k, no cpu gpu upgrade, no buy !
I will buy a xbox series s instead of this disapointing uprgade.
> a new wider kick stand
So no need for hundreds more stability updates?
So the new dock is missing the USB port in the back. I hope all the Pro rumors will end now.
@Nin10Doe I’m so glad you are keeping yourself amused in your own echo chamber. I’m sure NintendoLife users are just pinning for these “screens” of my comments lmao!
@weisske People have been trained to expect the lifespan of technology to be lower and lower. Nowadays if you have a phone that's more than three years old it's considered too old. Similarly, the switch is 4 years old now so many are ready to move on just for the sake up upgrading.
NES --> SNES = 6 years
SNES ---> N64 = 5 years
N64 ----> Gamecube = 5 years
Gamecube ---> Wii = 5 years
Wii ---> Wii U = 6 years
Wii U ---> Switch = 5 years (more like 4 1/2)
Not really seeing your point.
So, 4k and a processor bump would have been a definite day 1 upgrade, but still specs are not that important, this isn't competing with PS5/XBox, it's just competing with itself. Cross platform games are nice-to-haves. No one buys a Switch to play (new) Doom.
@NeonPizza Sorry, I meant true Bluetooth wireless that doesn’t require a janky transmitter.
Still living off the day one release over 4 years ago with the old battery, I'll buy it.
@Crono1973 in all fairness, that's the fault of the manufacturer. I hada laptop that crapped out after five years, while my GBA was chugging along like a champ. Still works too. Nintendo hardware is blessedly sturdy and can last decades if cared for.
@johnvboy I know, but I just think of all the time and effort wasted on this over the past few years. I wonder if the media people might learn something from this and temper things a little. I guess not so long as the clicks keep coming.
@earthinheritor Wow. You got insanely butthurt from my comment. I didn't say anything about it being nice. It's there if you want it. Chill out buddy.
Put this way OLED good portable but when you Docked it has "0" value. If that was 4K docked that would be different but disappointed is what should be another WiiU disappointment is here. Looks like they created another WiiU release which will probably die a slow death if they are to come out with a 4K model.
@TryToBeHopeful Sure! Like when that one dude who said that the Lite was never going to see the light of day. I posted that pic on my Twitter page the day Nintendo announced it! 😂
Nintendo store lists UK price £309.99 on register your interest link.
Registered my interest with Nintendo Store on their sign up page. Price revealed as £309.99. Hopefully up for pre order soon!
Drift problem fixed?
Available for pre order on GAME UK.
@jimolya @MrGawain slightly cheaper than I expected.
Game UK are live with preorders
£309.99. Got mine. Good luck
Bigger screen and oled, more storage, Nice design....say no more. Insta pre order!
Its not a suprise that the tech world and nintendo needs another 3-5 years before they can deliver a handheld that can boost the power enough to be worth it for the right price.
This one will be more than enough until that day arrives.
@TryToBeHopeful
I thought so too, but then a XBXS is £249.99, and a PS5 Digital is £399.99. I guess they’re having to keep in the market pricing.
Definitely a bit of a disappointing upgrade, but I'm still using a day one Switch, so for me it will be worth upgrading just for the better battery-life and better screen.
Most important question is obvious:
How stable will Switch OLED be?
Xbox Series S (512 GB) = $300
OLED Switch (64 GB) = $350
Nintendo is taking advantage of their fans.
"The OLED Model also has a redesigned dock, which comes with a built-in LAN port so you can enjoy low-latency wireless gaming."
What? It's not "wireless" if you literally need to plug in a wire.
So this is what all the industry insiders, business experts and armchair experts have been swearing was coming, ever since 2017.
NL buried the lede here... NEW SPLATOON 3 GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE! My body is woomy!
@Classic603 No Pro remains correct. I was no-Pro forever, but the latest set of rumors had me pretty convinced of a power upgrade of some kind. Wishful thinking, or plans changed with COVID, global shipping issues and semiconductor shortages.
Personally, as much as I want the Switch to be a more powerful system, I can’t afford that right now and seeing how bad the PS5/XSX situation is, I’m in no rush for a next generation from Nintendo, and looking into getting the most of my hitherto unused PC for a higher-end gaming experiences (probably a touch better than a PS4 Pro).
Also whoever in the marketing department that keeps coming up with the names needs to be fired. New 3DS? Switch OLED Model? Who keeps thinking these names are a good idea?
@Fazermint I’ve been anti-Pro rumors since for ever, but this latest round the timing seemed right. I think plans changed and Nintendo kind of retro-fitted a big OLED purchase into a new form factor with the same guts. My theory anyway.
It gets even worse, they are charging £310 in the UK and $350 in the US.
The series S is cheaper and the ps5 digital is slightly more expensive, and it costs more than the normal switch? This isn't going to sell well, especially as most sites will discount the original switch aswell
@Bolt_Strike It’s so much cleaner and clearer than anything else. “New” would have been a terrible move, and there’s no reason to call it “Pro”. Honestly, there’s barely enough changes to distinguish it for a casual user, and save the price (do we know?) could literally just replace the current Switch for all almost consumers would care.
Maybe not the best, but I think the least bad option considering how bad WiiU and New 3DS was. Not confusing or damaging to other models.
@UltimateOtaku91 Why would anyone discount original Switch? It’s a top seller still.
@Spiders It's because everyone in these comments is an MBA-holding business expert.
Can everyone stop comparing this to the xbox? The xbox does not play Zelda.
Not worth it for me
This should have replaced the standard Switch.
Instead, Nintendo has the balls to market this for $50 more
@Bolt_Strike
Nintendo Switch (OLED Model) is a pretty good name for what this product is: a Nintendo Switch with an OLED display and some other smaller upgrades (more storage, better speakers, wider kickstand, LAN port)
It isn't a New Switch or Switch Pro since the hardware specs are the same.
Let's not even mention Switch U.
@TryToBeHopeful Can everyone stop comparing this to the xbox? The xbox does not play Zelda.
You don't need this $350 model to play Zelda either. The Xbox Series S is cheaper and better hardware.
@Splodge I think it's easy not to be disappointed. Nintendo couldn't have been more fervent that they had no plans for anything like a Switch Pro. You just can't believe rumors. Bloomberg and Wallstreet Journal are almost always wrong about gaming stuff. Not to mention that for me and a lot of people, this is better. If it had been a huge hardware revision, I'd have wanted to upgrade just because they'd definitely make new games that would then run much worse on the standard model. Now I can save my money without worrying about that.
@Crono1973 The xbox one s (which I have) is probably better hardware. But what does it matter if it doesn't play Mario Kart?
People buy Ninty kit for the games. Microsoft and Sony might poach each other's users. Nintendo not so much.
@TryToBeHopeful The xbox one s (which I have) is probably better hardware. But what does it matter if it doesn't play Mario Kart?
...but you don't need this new $350 system to play Mario Kart.
@EriXz ultimate cheapskates is more like it.
-Better and bigger screen check
-More expensive price check
-discount for original model Nope
-Better CPU, 4k via DLSS Nope
@TryToBeHopeful Well if we're talking about hardware its way better. Switch could never run original Xbox One games like Monster Hunter World or RE7. Xbox series S got the same CPU as series X
@Cronos1973 Better how? Apples to apples, Xbox + xCloud + controller peripheral + subscription is going to cost more than a Switch OLED to do the same thing with non-trivial trade-offs (better graphics but latency and wifi issues, using undedicated smartphone, etc.)
You’re thinking in terms of specs and not use cases. Switch is the value leader in its space.
@Spiders Better how? Apples to apples, Xbox + xCloud + controller peripheral + subscription is going to cost more than a Switch OLED to do the same thing with non-trivial trade-offs (better graphics but latency and wifi issues, using undedicated smartphone, etc.).
What kind of hoops are you jumping through to justify this price?
Kind of tired of Nintendo getting away with mediocre upgrades. The switch is a fantastic idea, but they just aren't doing the most they could be. Also, I feel like this is what the original switch should have been, if anything.
@Crono1973 I don't need anything to play mario kart, I have a switch, but people aren't choosing between xboxes and switches, as they do different things, so why compare specs? If you want to play Mario Kart on an OLED screen, then this is the one to buy. The Xbox Series S is really not going to help.
@Crono1973
Xbox Series S $299.99
Kishi controller (xCloud controller) $99.99
____
$399.98 before Gamepass subs ($15/mo for Ultimate w/xCloud)
That’s the Microsoft equivalent to the Nintendo Switch as close as you can compare them apples to apples.
@dimi I'm talking about the One S (the old one), but my point is it doesn't matter. It's better for playing Fortnite, but at playing Mario Kart it's no better than my electric toothbrush.
oooh give me that white console , so glad i sold me launch one recently. i tried the switch lite but i missed the big screen option as well so this is a plus Metroid on the big screen and in bed lol
now lets hope Nintendo are sensible and don't let scalpers get these for profit.
@TryToBeHopeful You compare specs because these consoles compete with each other. You may think that Nintendo isn't competing with Microsoft and Sony but they are.
Specifically, multiplatform games are usually downgraded to work on the Switch yet the prices for both the hardware and the games are more expensive on the Switch.
These are things that some of us consider.
@Spiders because this new switch model will slowly replace the older lcd units in shops and online, so companies will just try to sell up the remaining lcd units they have and will include some discounts and can guarantee a heavy discount on the lcd model on black friday
@Spiders Why are adding a third party controller and Gamepass to the price?
If you want to do that we can add on NSO and the price of a pro controller to the Switch OLED price which would make it $440. Further, since Microsoft puts all their first party games on Gamepass but Nintendo charges full price for them, the costs continue to rise for Nintendo players.
@Spiders if you have an xbox why would you need a kishi controller? The kishi controller is for your mobile phone
@JaxonH "Seems the more powerful model is for next Gen"
That's what I'm thinking too. Couple of years after this and it's time to move on. 3 models is enough for 1 Gen, actually 4 if you count the new battery. Just make the Pro a 2 and give us MK9 as a launch title holiday 2023.
@Jokerwolf I don't doubt it. Compared to other controllers like the Wii u pro controller and ds4 controllers, joy con joysticks are very crap quality. I don't likem much personally.
@Spiders @westman98 Oh no, it's a lot more clearer than the likes of New 3DS and Wii U, I'll give you that. But it's so wordy and generic, they could've come up with a MUCH better way to convey "it's a Switch, but with a nicer looking screen".
I'll give it an automatic 11 out of 10 if only just for looking like a Panda <3
@falconlord5 Yeah "only". That's probably the biggest improvement everyone expected, so its omission is pretty glaring.
nice. a switch "pro" running 4k? i mean, what's the point, honestly?
this genuinely makes a lot more sense and it doesn't force people to upgrade or be left behind. this is best-case scenario for consumers and for nintendo.
you were never gonna play BotW in 4k anyway. get real.
@TryToBeHopeful Didn't Furukawa straight up apologize for 'joy con issues' after Ninty kept tryna downplay the problem and the lawsuits and everything kept snowballing?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like admitting they are bad. Announcing a set that fixes/addresses the issue would be a noteworthy announcement to appease the drama surrounding them(not saying they would but this only makes people expect the ones in this 'new' model to be the same crap they currently are /js).
@BenGrimm I've seen several people now mention the trade in price, not normally something I think about but if $200 is coming for an OG Switch sure why not. As a 99% TV gamer I don't need to think about it much, maybe when my 2nd kid goes to college in 2 years I'll see what's up with Switch 2.
Trades are good though, thinking about trading in my car for a new one, though I don't need a new 1, but 9 years is old for a car.
@Lalivero I couldn’t tell you, if that’s what happened, you’re probably right,
But if I was one of their lawyers I’d strongly advise against admitting liability!
Big meh. OLED, Shmo-LED.
I'll pass, Fox.
Since I already reflected on its context on the Talking Point article, I'll just affirm this like if I had a crystal ball:
This model will replace the standard one eventually, will become the base for future revisions, and Nintendo's hardware plans are NOT over yet.
@YoungLink64 I’m not sure what you’re replying to.
@Bolt_Strike
The issues is that any moniker like New, Pro, Plus, Super, Advanced, Deluxe, Enhanced, etc would imply that the OLED model includes better hardware specs, when it doesn't.
Even Switch XL doesn't work since the OLED model has virtually the exact same dimensions as the current Switch.
Nintendo Switch (OLED Model) is a pretty good name for what this product is. Maybe Nintendo should get rid of the parentheses and just call it the Nintendo Switch OLED Model.
@NEStalgia I think we still have time to get "Switch Unleaded" trending since they didn't give it any extra power. Personally I prefer saying Switch Unleaded to Switch Oh-Led anyway. I'm calling it that in my house, for real. Not sure about typing, we'll see.
@Old-Red,
The people who report these rumors do not care if they are true or not, it's all for clicks or subscribers.
@YoungLink64
"lukewarm reception"
The reveal trailer has alike a 93% like-to-dislike ratio. Lukewarm reception this is not.
@earthinheritor ,
Seems fine to me, but I never had unrealistic expectations in the first place.
@westman98,
Once again the minorities claiming they are in fact the majority, which they are not, and never will be.
@rjejr
As much as I'd love next gen to come in 2023, I suspect it'll be March 2025 at the soonest.
Nintendo has gone on record stating they want to extend the generation. The exception to this is if they blur the lines between gens and release a Switch 2.0 that is a new gen with all exclusive games, but fully BC so some games can run on both, and marketed as a "pro upgrade" that continues the generation. Then I could see maybe fall 2023. But if not, that would only be 6 years, which isn't too "extended" to me, especially after 3DS got support for 8 years.
We'll be alright though. We're getting swamped with excellent games, and while we do get some here and there with framerate issues or what have you, plenty are fine as is. This is peak Switch right now. 2021 has opened the floodgates.
Persona 5 Strikers, Bravely Default 2, Monster Hunter Rise, Trails of Cold Steel IV, Mario Golf, Tony Hawk, MH Stories 2, Ys IX, Neo TWEWY, Ace Attorney, Ni No Kuni 2, WarioWare, Metroid Dread, Cruis'n Blast, Advance Wars, etc etc.
But since this Switch doesn't get a power boost they do need to get on Pokémon Arceus and iron that out.
Really don't need anymore dodgy joycons and I've already got 2 docks. I'll hold off and see if I can just get the console on it own down the line
@westman98 Can we get rid of the () and the word Model? People may say Nintendo before Switch OLED but nobody is saying, or writing, Model. I don't particularly like Switch OLED as a name but it's accurate, and the shorter the better. And Switch Oh-Led is better than Switch oh-el-ee-dee so I hope Nintendo doesn't decide to spell it out in it's US ads. But it's Nintendo, so you never know.
Love how the folks bringing up the price comparsions between the OLED Switch and Xbox Series S aren't bringing up how the Switch Lite is only $200. 😅 I guess bringing the Lite into the conversation doesn't fit the fanboy agenda, go figure.
Don't know why it's a comparison to begin with. Xbox can't play Nintendo exclusives, the third party exclusives nor some Japanese games. And you can't take the Xbox on the go. If you think the Series S is a better value, then go for it, but let's not devalue the Switch or make skewed comparisons.
I must get this.. it's good enough upgrade for me.
@Dirty0814 I think it will come out in 2023 but they will have a transitional year where games will primarily be made for both and then at a certain point they'll be exclusive to the new system. So the 8th year of the console will be its transition year which makes way more sense for them financially and if you get a switch now you're still going to have two to three years before you need to upgrade.
@westman98 They could call it Switch Color or Switch Bright or something like that. That would more accurately describe that it's a higher quality screen but nothing else is improved.
At the very least, just drop it to Switch OLED like @rjejr is suggesting. The model name probably shouldn't have more than 2 words in its name and "model" seems fairly superfluous.
@YoungLink64 Right!? Just waiting for the next OLED commercial where they show Bobsled Run 😁
@Wavey84 Exactly.
Wasn't this article originally written by Ryan? Why did the authors get changed?
@Crono1973 You do realize the switch pro has been talked about since one year after the switch's release right? (might even be earlier) I'd say 1 year is significantly less than 6-4 years
Loooooooooonng boring ad for nothing of a nothingness really. They could've just started shipping this as a replacement for the original and I don't think many would have noticed if it was the same red and blue. It's sort of like a PS and PS slim situation. More the one to get if you don't already have one. Just improved battery life or loading times would have been enough but not even that.
Like I did on the Vita, I am going to go blind playing Lumines on this thing.
@Bolt_Strike
Switch Color sorta implies that the previous Switch models didn't have color and now this one does, while Switch Bright kinda implies that previous Switch models can't display bright colors and now this one can.
Switch OLED could work.
@JaxonH I can't wait until 2025 for a new Mario Kart or a new Pikmin (might as well call it 5 at this point). A Switch 2.0 sounds as next Gen to me as Xbox Series, fully bc w/ no exclusives for a year or 2, no reason for Nintendo to make an all new console that isn't able to play Switch games but is also next Gen. It does not have to fit in the dock, make it like DS to 3DS, that was fairly smooth I think.
But not 2025. By 2024 PS4 and X1 will be mostly done, how do they port 4k Doom or Assassin Creed to Switch?
I'd like to see it announced in 2023 for March 2024 launch along side Mario Kart. I think that will be 12 freaking long years since the last MK when a new 1 used to release every 2 or 2, home and handheld jumping.
If you want to call it 2.0 rather than just straight up 2 I can live w/ that, I just want some 4k HDR games for my TV. But a "Pro" seems too limited, full blown improvements all around.
@YoungLink64
"DS like products"
You say that as if Nintendo doesn't want to replicate the DS, aka their most successful hardware platform of all time lol.
@Fazermint the power of internet leaks and rumours is something that is very easy to spread
@dkxcalibur Have you ever tried to contact Nintendo support? When drift happened to me, they simply replaced mine for free.
Like, even the cost of mailing the joycons to them was covering by them due to the way it was setup if I recall.
And if somehow yours are out of warranty, I've discovered it might simply be much much cheaper to replace the joystick yourself by ordering repair kits(which include replacement joysticks) online than order a new set of joycons.
There's plenty of repair kits out there and I've found the replacing the joystick surprisingly easy to do once I understood the tutorials for them as at some point I had a set of joycons with did start to drift years after their warranty expired.
And unlike the joysticks on a gamepad pro, the model in a joycon doesn't require any soldering whatsoever to replace(meaning that it's ironically much easier to repair yourself a joycon whose warranty has expired than a Gamepad Pro whose warranty has expired).
@kalosn You have a much more accurate crystal ball than anyone I've ever seen.
Good. This is a slight QoL upgrade that doesn't alienate current Switch users and split the playerbase.
This isn't worth it for me to get one, but a great option for anyone looking to get one now or wants another one.
Can see this just being the Switch going forward with the OG being discontinued.
@kalosn I can semi-predict that it might become the standard model when it might be itself revised once/if nVidia stops producing that SoC that's supposedly featured in all current Switch model(2017/2019/Lite).
@YoungLink64 Even EA is better, Mass Effect Legendary Edition is $60 for 3 games.
@YoungLink64 The thing is I don't think "people who didn't like what they saw" really matters in regard to Switch owner. It's not meant to be a Switch which you'll replace your current one with.
It's just most likely the next baseline, like the 2019 revision was. Wouldn't be surprised if it featured a new SoC since the one supplied by nVidia used in the 2017/2019/Lite models apparently cease production this year. At least if the claims are to be believed. But the 2019 revision itself happened because nVidia ceased to produce the processor chip in the 2017 Switch, so Nintendo made a revision with the next closest thing.
@weisske Yeah, I was tired of the Switch Pro rumors long ago but what does that have to do with a new generation?
@weisske Haha it actually materialized out of common sense, at least according to what I think it's the best direction for this new model. :lol:
@Ludovsky The thing is I don't think "people who didn't like what they saw" really matters in regard to Switch owner. It's not meant to be a Switch which you'll replace your current one with.
BS, Nintendo knows and wants people to double (and maybe triple) dip on the Switch. People always say 'it's not for current owners' but we all know (and Nintendo knows) how that always goes.
@YoungLink64
I'm going off of the YouTube reveal, not the Nintendo Life comments section lol. Websites like this are largely an echo-chamber that represent the most hardcore of the hardcore, not the general audience.
With regards to your DS comment, Nintendo stopped concerning themselves with hardware power years ago.
If/when Nintendo releases a Pro model or next gen Switch 2 in the future, it will be done largely for 4K support, not to play horsepower catch-up with Xbox and PlayStation.
@rjejr
As long as we keep getting excellent games- MH Rise, MH Stories 2, Metroid Dread, Ni No Kuni 2, etc I'm good until then. And next year already has Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, Zelda BotW 2, Mario Rabbids, and we still have Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3 in the pipeline.
Just keep the games coming. I'll gladly enjoy them in OLED with better speakers. Yes sir. I'm a Vita owner. I love the quality handheld experience.
But I am excited for whatever comes next, a few years from now. New chip with DLSS will be incredible. And you'll get your Mario Kart. Til then, enjoy the ride.
@rjejr Nobody else knows what "unleaded" means, anyway.
Besides, it feels more leaded, anyway, doesn't it?
Nintendo Switch (We ran out of old cheap screens made before 2012 model)
I probably won’t buy it. But at the same time, I’m not going to hurl insults at Nintendo or its fans for this like so many horrible people on the internet have been doing.
@JaxonH "I'm a Vita owner"
😅😅😅😅😅😅
...I'm just masking the pain. Count me in.
@rjejr It'll be $349 because you have to account for the Samsung tax.
(sent from my Galaxy android device)
@JaxonH Next year is great no doubt, that's 2022 (and my Bayonetta 3 Amazon order has been coming out every year since 2018) which is why I said announce it in late 2023 for a March 2024 launch. Nintendo doesn't like more than 1 game per Gen, how long do you want to wait for the next 2D and 3D Mario games? I own a WiiU, it's been 3 years of ports after Mario Odyssey and BotW, I'd like some more new games, which we likely won't get until next Gen. And I think 3rd parties would like more power by 2024 as well. Next year is fine, PS4 and X1 ports, by 2023 I start to worry about 3rd party moving on.
Unless Nintendo wants to give us Pikmin 4 in 2023 and a new, not sequel, Zelda and Mario 3D game in 2024, they need new hardware.
@NEStalgia It's "Unleaded" compared to the rumored Pro wishlist, but you already knew that weisenheimer. 😉
"For all you people upset about the lack of power upgrades in #SwitchOLED - I'm a TV only gamer myself - I'll only ever be referring to it as "Switch UnLeaDed".
#SwitchUnleaded It's no #SwitchPro 😎"
It's $349 to keep the scalpers at bay, that's the only legit reason. 💵
@JaxonH Nintendo might do well to have a period of cross-gen titles like Microsoft and Sony have, say release the Switch 2 in 2023 and for about a year or two, you can buy games for the Switch and Switch 2 with Switch 2 enhancements and then by 2024/2025, release games exclusively on Switch 2.
The biggest issue that might force Nintendo to move on in about 2023 is that third parties and gamers are starting to find the Switch's specs outdated. Look at this last E3, how many third party games were announced for Switch? Only big game I saw was Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope. With developers shifting to PS5/Xbox Series X now, Nintendo's once again falling back down to the realm of "too underpowered to get good third party support" like they were with the Wii and Wii U and the longer the Switch stays on the market without a performance upgrade, the worse it's going to get. They might be fine in 2022 with that projected to have a strong, 2017-esque lineup, but it's infeasible for them to have years like 2017 all of the time so they still need third parties to fill in the gaps. So I think the Switch will lose momentum from 2023 on if an upgrade isn't coming.
@Donkey-Kong-Fan I probably won’t buy it. But at the same time, I’m not going to hurl insults at Nintendo or its fans for this like so many horrible people on the internet have been doing.
Well, the hardware is overpriced and people who can't wait to give Nintendo their money are the reason Nintendo keeps doing this.
@Ludovsky
Not to mention that, I'm surprised few have thought of Nintendo eventually giving all the Switch family a price cut. Think about it:
Switch Lite would cost 150$, the standard Switch 250$, and the OLED Switch, 300$ AKA the same price the basic Switch currently has.
Maybe Nintendo is actually wanting that to happen so they can announce a premium model.
Anyone have a master strategy for trying to secure a pre-order? I lost the PS5 and Metroid Dread amiibo battles to bots. 😭
Disappointed as was hoping my n64 carts would have worked on it. Guess I will have to buy it and make the necessary adjustments myself
@rjejr Are there even going to be preorders or are they just dropping it on launch day? Probably learned from MS/Sony preorder debacle but I'm not sure a launch day drop is actually better. Weirdness all around.
Look at the "very Samsung" colorweave background on the official ad. This isn't the Nintendo Switch (OLED Model) - or the Nintendo Switch Unleaded.
This is the Nintendo Switch GALAXY Edition.
(Insert Samsung Sam gif)
@SynapticFlow haha, nice. I still have the OG switch version, so the improved battery life that came with the 2nd revision plus the screen updates for this one are enough for me to buy this.
Why would I get this though.
@NEStalgia OK Mr. Satan post #666
Did I say anything about pre-orders? You replied to me like I did but I don't think I did, except for Bayonetta 3 which I pre-ordered in Dec 2018. I wonder if Amazon will change my order when it comes out on Switch 2.0 in 2024?
Hadn't thought about pre-orders except for the fact that I think that $349 price keeps scalpers away. I know a lot of people had said they wanted it, but mostly just w/ a $200 trade in and I'm not sure who's offering them that. Nintendo outing it now means it's already being manufactured, they should have plenty for early October, kind of still pre-holiday shopping.
Have we seen anything about whether or not they keep selling the other Switch beside it for $299? If that one goes away they'll need more of these, but if those are still out there come October, maybe lowered in price to $279, do some people who plan on playing mostly on tv just keep buying the other ones, or more parents say - "yeah kid, you want an OLED screen, but here, have a $199 Lite, and 1 for your sibling, 2 for practically the price of 1." $349 vs $199 is a thing.
So I think the scalpers will buy up early pre-orders, then no one will buy them form the scalpers for more than $399, so the scalpers will stop, and people who want 1 can buy 1. Some people want a $349 OLED screen on 4 1/2 year old hardware, but I think Nintendo can meet that demand.
Hey @ThomasBW84 how's Nintendo's Nikkei stock doing on the news? I know you're watching it. Are the shareholders happy b/c this was announced or upset b/c no 4k?
No hardware upgrade outside the larger screen is funny. I'm sure the internet will be rife with tears of those hoping for a Switch Pro for a day or two, lol
@Lyricana
You're not wrong really but I wouldn't discount rumours completely.
A lot of the details that were rumoured did turn out to be correct (even the wider kick-stand was mentioned). And the leaks from last year surrounding Mario's 35th anniversary collection also proved true. Nintendo is not the tight ship it once was. It's important not to take rumours as promises but I wouldn't say you can never believe them - especially with so many sources reporting the same things.
Also worth noting that Bloomberg has had staff changes recently with Jason Schrier joining from Kotaku - so their information is probably going to be more correct than it has been historically.
But, like I say, the improvements are good and actually probably the correct move for Nintendo. So I'm not overly disappointed personally - but this is probably not something I need whereas a more extensive hardware upgrade would be something I would get.
@michellelynn0976 Also, I still have the original day 1 switch. So for me there's also the battery boost.
The LAN port and white joycons intrigue me the most. I think for once I'm glad that Nintendo came out with a revision that didn't force me to quickly jump on board. If they sell that dock with the white joycons separately I will buy those to use with my original Switch. Anything to help improve my online experience and finally get white joycons which I have wanted since launch.
"The OLED Model also has a redesigned dock, which comes with a built-in LAN port so you can enjoy low-latency wireless gaming."
Um... are you guys sure you know what a LAN port is?
Going to preorder now.
@technotreegrass I bought a regular switch about 3 days before the whole world was convinced that Nintendo was going to announce a pro model this year. So I kept it in the box (much to my son’s disappointment) just so I could return it for a refund to put toward the pro. Surprise, surprise no announcement! Glad I didn’t bother waiting; £227 for the regular model, not worth the extra £83 for these upgrades tbh (though if you play mainly handheld I guess it might be worth it).
@VenomousAlbino GAME is listing it at £310 I believe (might need to double check that).
I consider myself a salesman’s dream tbh.
I have the PS5, Series X and the Switch.
There’s zero chance of me feeling the need to buy this.
Nowhere near enough of an upgrade for me to part with my money and in all honesty I feel like Nintendo are having a laugh with this.
So little has been upgraded yet the expectation is for the consumer to spend another £300.
I’ll stick with the original Switch until they give me a proper reason to change.
Genuinely don’t understand anyone that already owns a Switch being tempted by this but we’re all different.
Damn, cannot preorder yet...
@Wavey84
Of course, they're not going to announce something before they're ready just because someone asked. But when they go out of their way to announce their intentions without being asked, you can pretty much take it to the bank. They told shareholders they wanted to extend the generation. That wasn't some non-answer to a question asking about things not ready to be revealed. That was a voluntary statement of intent.
I don't think being out of date is relevant though. My PS5 is out of date and can't even match my 2080 ti which released a year beforehand, and we're already on to the 3000 series the day it released. Being out of date is normal, expected even. It doesn't need to keep up with cutting edge tech because gaming consoles aren't cutting edge. They're budget gaming machines in the $300-500 price range.
That said, I do agree with you though. I think they should have given it a boost. Not for the sake of trying to keep up with "being in date" or anything like that, but to help ensure games run sufficiently the remainder of the generation. Many games are right on the cusp of acceptable performance and even a marginal improvement would go a long ways. Definitely a missed opportunity there.
But, it is what it is. Perhaps this is part of their plan to extend the generation. Perhaps they know boosted performance is the Ace up their sleeve to squeeze out a final few years, but with Switch having just done 28 mil and peojecting another 25 this year, they feel now isn't the time. Save it for 2023, as you suggested. This could just be a pick me up in the meantime.
But, you take the good with the bad, right? I'm just happy Nintendo is releasing such a higher quality model.
Well. This were as dissepointment.
Mii don't want this!
At least i don't need to buy a new console anytime soon.
This is definitely a pass for me. I love the white design for the joy cons and the dock but that's about it, everything else is the same. Don't want to pay another $350 for a bigger screen and better kickstand. Already have a ethernet adapter for my switch so I don't care about the built in one. I'm sure I will be able to get the joy cons and dock separately at some point so that's fine for me
I have to say that this is one of the most worthless things that Nintendo ever revealed yet. Yes, it has OLED screen and some fancy small stuff they put, but that's about it. If this was the original Switch, It would have been a must buy, but I don't know what was Nintendo thinking when they revealed this "new" console.
So, unless you don't own a Nintendo Switch or play Switch in a handheld mode occasionally, this is a hard pass.
I miss the days of new Nintendo consoles being cheaper. I miss the $49.99 NES, SNES, & GCN. I miss the $99.99 N64 and Wii. I miss the $49.99 GameBoy.
Is good news. I don't need to upgrade.
Anyone planning to buy this? It looks good, but I'm content with my slightly warped system. It's lame they didn't add one more USB port so I could plug in a second GCN adapter (and get rumble with it).
According to another site I just read - you can get the 'upgraded' dock for $60 by itself from Nintendo potentially. For anyone who just cared about a LAN enabled dock.
"A Nintendo spokesperson told Digital Trends that both colours of the dock, white and black, will be available to buy on their own. They won’t include any cables (current standalone dock purchases don’t either), and while no price or release date was announced, expect to take the current dock price of $60 and push it a little higher to account for the added features.
Those features include...well, just one major thing, which is the addition of a LAN port, which will be fantastic news to anyone having to rely on a slow and/or patchy wi-fi connection. It also has rounded corners, which look a little nicer, and may also contribute to fewer scratched screens if you ever had to suffer from that particular issue.
The docks will only be available directly from Nintendo directly, meaning you won’t be able to grab one from GameStop or Amazon or whatever. And they’ll also be interchangeable, meaning you can use an old dock on a new Switch, and vice versa."
Unless my current Switch suddenly bites the dust I'll past on this. Those white joycons however! I hope they sell em separately!
wow this is just not at all what anyone wanted.
I wasn't expecting any direct performance upgrades, as I think it would be a mistake to divide game compatibility at this point.
As such, I'm fully happy with the upgrades that have been provided.
@Splodge that why you should never believe on rumors/leaks.
@Crono1973 I do need this model to play stuff like Mario Kart (at least the 8 Deluxe version), since I still haven't gotten a Switch yet. New models like these are meant more for new customers, replacement customers, and other holdouts, not really for those who already have a still working original system unless they're pretty wealthy.
@Kitoro dude we been telling you people that switch pro isnt happening but you guys keep on believing in the bs rumors plus all the hyping over switch pro end up backfiring on you guys completely so technically anyone should be blame is the ones that believe in the rumors in th first place.
@Crono1973 I don't understand why you're so upset about this. What did you really expect Nintendo to do? Did you believe the unverified rumors? Then that's a you problem.
@BulbasaurusRex I do need this model to play stuff like Mario Kart (at least the 8 Deluxe version), since I still haven't gotten a Switch yet.
No you don't, any Switch model will play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe but let's be honest, if you really wanted to play it you would already have a Switch.
@XinnieThePooh I don't understand why you're so upset about this. What did you really expect Nintendo to do? Did you believe the unverified rumors? Then that's a you problem.
I never believed the rumors and was hoping this announcement would kill the rumors (it won't I guess). No, I think Nintendo overprices their hardware. Not once have I said that I wanted a 'Switch Pro'. That just fractures the install base but in comparison to the hardware their competition is offering, they overcharge.
Wow, 700 comments now!
I have been thinking, what if this isn't the only new model and Nintendo announces a 4K-capable Switch later this year? They announced both Switch Lite and revised Switch on July 2019 after all...
Ok, I'm just guessing. Maybe not yet
@Gamecuber Smart move to wait just in case. When I heard about the DLSS upscaling process, I thought maybe Nintendo would indeed make a Pro version. I guess they're saving that tech for the next console. I agree, this new version seems to benefit handheld mode more than docked mode.
@Crono1973 @UltimateOtaku91 I added the Razer Kishi controller because Switch comes with a controller compatible in handheld with the price tag, and the Kishi is the only Microsoft licensed device.
If you want to compare Switch to Xbox S apples to apples, that's how you do it. If there's no controller for the handheld mode of the Xbox, you're not making a fair comparison. In other words, this is what it costs to have an Xbox Series S do what a Switch does in all use cases. If you're not doing that, you're being dishonest comparing the value proposition even before all the caveats (for example, I don't think you can play non-Gamepass digital games or physical discs via xCloud). If you're looking at prices just a plain entry fee to playing video games at all, well, you've lost that argument nearly every month since Switch launched.
@Spiders I added the Razer Kishi controller because Switch comes with a controller compatible in handheld with the price tag, and the Kishi is the only Microsoft licensed device.
Then you also need to add in the $70 cost of the Pro Controller to match the Xbox Controller that comes in the box, for play on the TV. I think we all know that the Joy Cons aren't great for anything other than handheld play.
@Bolt_Strike I agree with you aesthetically, but I think this was really a case of rather trying for a home run, they "played not to lose".
That's been the issue with the idea of a Pro model since the first rumors. The Switch is a runaway success, and Nintendo doesn't want to do anything that loses that base.
I said in other posts, I suspect the OLED model is leftover parts from a bolder hardware strategy that changed after COVID, the semiconductor shortage, and the global shipping crisis — and after they contracted the screens. I think it's a very shrewd and conservative move given the circumstances, especially when you look at how Sony is failing to meet expectations with Playstation 5.
@Crono1973 No you don't. Switch comes with Joy-Con Grip for TV play. Of course I think the Pro is better in most circumstances too, but it's an extra purchase.
That would definitely factor in for personal value just like saying "what runs Subnautica better in handheld mode, and is that worth the difference?", "will I always be playing handheld near a strong wifi connection?", etc., but when you're trying to make an objective argument comparing the two it doesn't apply.
I never said there wasn't trade-offs (i.e. a lot of people don't like the Joy-Cons), just that you need to make it as fair as possible if you want to make an honest comparison.
@Spiders It's inevitable that they'll lose it at some point if they don't move on to stronger hardware. That's the way the tech industry works, specs are constantly improving and leaving the older models behind. It looks like Nintendo wants to learn that the hard way because at this point the Switch is probably going to be on the market longer than people will put up with its low specs.
@YoungLink64 You really really really want a white dock that is slightly better looking but don't want to pay for a whole new device? Hah.
@Bolt_Strike Maybe, but the tech industry is not working like that currently. I'm speculating, but I think those new hardware rumors were very close to the truth but plans changed after COVID, semi-conductor shortage, and global shipping crisis. Nintendo does not want to be in Sony's current position at all. I suspect they had the contract for those OLED screens done before they shifted gears, and thus the new model.
People were fed up with Switch's specs at launch. That's really why I'm pushing back so hard against you is that you're really ignoring the market Switch carved out for itself. There is stronger hardware already in handheld gaming and it's way too expensive to be considered competition. I'd agree with you under normal circumstances, it's about the right time for new hardware to be announced, but the tech industry, particularly the supply chain, is not working the way it's supposed to. They'd lose at some point, but I think that point has been stretched, and we don't see real new hardware until late 2022 (doubtful) or 2023 (my bet).
I think the doom and gloom you're describing is more appropriate for Sony's current situation, where players are more literally getting stranded on last generation hardware, and the current generation is suffering for all the resources being poured into the cross-gen lifeline. All the dev cycles, which were already getting longer, have been further extended by COVID disruption. Their distribution channels have been captured by scalpers. Developers won't commit exclusive games. It's ugly in Sony land right now, on the back of a great piece of hardware everyone wanted.
Ironically, I think XBox is making the most salient business moves in today's reality by taking hardware out of the picture as much as possible and putting XBox on devices that players already have (PC, Smartphone).
Yeah this is an easy pass... No performance boosts (I wasn't even expecting the unreasonale 4K everyone else seems to have been hoping for) make this useless over the original model as someone who mostly plays docked.
@The_New_Butler Yeah just got a 400gb sd
After months (if not years) of 'Switch Pro' Rumours, I hate to say "I told you so", I told you so. Nintendo just don't do these high end, high spec premium models selling at a premium price for premium gamers beside a base model. They do iterations and now, for the second time of these nonsense "Pro" rumours, we get the second iteration (the first being the red box version).
The sad reality is that everyone got duped by media and leakers refererring to upgraded models as a "Pro". Even this site kept saying it, only recently revising headlines to match the reality. This raised the expectations of many people so it's no surprise the response is underwhelming.
Along with my many comments in recent months about this "Pro" nonsense, here's two older ones I could find. All that I got wrong was the replacement aspect. Although, I do expect this will happen in time, as Nintendo will probably milk a few $$ through guaranteed sales, then withdraw the old model and reduce the OLED model price.
Jan 2019
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/01/talking_point_whats_next_for_nintendo_after_switch
The only question is the iterations that will arrive. We already suspect heavily the 3DS will be replaced by a fixed Switch (integrated controls without the fancy tech) and likely a basic update of the standard Switch with better battery, screen, storage and design tweaks (notably to fix the flimsy kickstand). As to something more powerful, that's at least 3 years away, possible up to 5, and games will still be compatible across all iterations. Possibly Nintendo will release the base console (CPU and screen) for an easy and cheap upgrade. That's another design bonus of the system!
Mar 2019
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/03/rumour_this_years_budget_switch_could_take_the_2ds_route_and_ditch_a_killer_feature
The so-called "pro" version won't be anything of the sort. Nintendo simply don't have separate, more powerful, versions of their consoles selling side by side. They do replacement systems, so it would be an updated version, and would replace the current one. I expect much of the update is better screen, battery, storage, kickstand and slightly more powerful to benefit frame-rate and resolution. The current Switch won't become redundant or unable to play certain games.
So this is just another current Switch variant.
Been wanting to buy a Switch but I'm wondering whether if I should just wait for the Pro rumors to come true.
If I were a scalper I wouldn't bother hoarding this.
@Dpishere Yep. This will be interesting to watch, from very far away. Honestly, I am a little glad it is underwhelming. Makes my current Nintendo Switch seem much less inferior.
At least the rumours are over. They were happening all the time.
Surprise we screw fans of Switch Lite and Switch by making absolutely no improvements to TV and forcing a dock on Lite users, both have to pay an extra $50-100 for features they don't care about. The new president sure is great.
Could have easily made this Lite 2.0 and priced it at $250 and removed the dock, offering it as a separate purchase of $70. But that would mean giving lite users what they want and not forcing TV users into thinking this is a good model for anything but portable mode.
Hats off to Nintendo. Their hardware is dated but their games are still SO GOOD. Honestly couldn't care less for all the 4k stuff when I'm playing the likes or Mario Odyssey or SSBU.
still no Bluetooth headphone support? LOL
@rjejr The share value appears to be pretty flat so far (that could change), likely because Nintendo is doing what most expected, I think. There was no big upgrade coming this year, otherwise it would have had a showcase reveal, but Nintendo's sales projections are a little down on last year anyway.
So in all likelihood the OLED helps Nintendo hit its sales targets, which delivers the profits. Shareholders arguably don't care about much else.
@KateGray I was thinking this same thing. They couldn't reach back in time to fix the flaws with the first one so they just used a minor hardware revision to do it. The color of this is nice but I can't see myself forking out money for it.
This is a replacement unit. They changed the screen, and will phase out the old unit. It will eventually be the same old price.
They might as well market it, which is what they are doing.
Clearly, this isn't years of R&D ... It's a manufacturing optimisation, and additional production capacity through a different screen.
Is the original Switch being discontinued or selling along side this?
64 GB - I have a 64GB SD card in my old switch
OLED - I primarily play it docked attacked to my LG CX 4k OLED
LAN Port - Currently using a Lan adapter on old switch
So there's really no reason at all for me to get this. I guess I'll stick with my old switch. Was really expecting at least some improvement in performance. Not worth paying another $350.
@YoungLink64 It's basically what the DS lite was to the original DS.
Same features, different form factor and some minor improvements(mainly to stuff like battery life/etc).
It probably would have been seen as a more marked upgrade had the processor chip not already been replaced in 2019 for the Mariko due to nVidia discontinuing the original chip.
Since apparently nVidia is about to discontinue another component used in the current Switch, I suspect this is what happened here as well to allow the console to continue being made. They just added a few other improvements as a bonus this time around.
@Rubashov Technically the original 2017 Switch has "already" been discontinued, due to the original processor chip made by nVidia having ceased production around 2019, thus leading Nintendo to need to replace it in 2019 with the Mariko chip that had the same performances whilst being much less power hungry(allowing BOTW to be played in handheld for almost twice as long than before, going from 2-2.5h to 4.5-5.5 hours of playtime in handheld before needing to recharge).
More people just didn't noticed because they otherwise kept the exact same form factor format, so the only difference between a 2017 Switch and a 2019 one were internal and the exteriors were the same.
It's suspected the same might be happening since this console release only in October but nVidia is reported to discontinue the SoC used in current(2017, 2019, Lite) Switch models. The difference this time is they allowed themselves more changes such as taking profit of the fact OLED has become a mature/weathered*(and thus better understood/more affordable) technology to update the screen among other tweaks.
So my suspicion was indeed that this might just be the next potential "standard" model to merely ensure continuity of production
@kalosn I wouldn't hold my breath on it tbh. Fpr a "Premium" model that is. Price cut might happen in the future, especially if supply lines/logistics improves but that remains to be seen(production of chips component IS strained currently because of many different reasons).
IMO it's 2019 all over again. People saw production leaks talking about a "new" Switch model being made with a "new" processor chip and instantly began to speculate it HAD to be a S