@Takoda Sad for humanity in the long run but also wonât lie, itâs pretty funny to see people pulling long winded 9/11 analogies out of their arse to fight for whether or not a paper Mario side character is trans But yeah it is best to try and communicate with those willing to understand to an extent and Iâm glad to see that for as many blatant haters swarming to the comments as they are there are still a lot of people willing to see reason or who think itâs all a tad silly
@AtlanteanMan Holy yappaccino đ how did I barely skim your post and read both Hitler and 9/11 how in the hell is that connected to a paper mario character đ
@Retro_Zelda @Takoda I completely agree, if itâs for the purpose of self-fulfillment then any interpretation that makes you feel seen or happy with the character is awesome and I think if it makes the reader of said statements happy then thereâs no problem and they should keep it up.
Apologies if I really misread your questionsâI think itâs fairly clear how people often left out or bullied (like you are saying is bad) looking for representation in a character might see her as trans But your case has a point to it as well, and if itâs what you see as the more logical assumption from the provided dialogue then I think thatâs awesome and you should embrace that as your Nintendo truth â
@Retro_Zelda Nope it definitely isnât and when I scroll up I can see youâve asked it 5 or 6 other times so I know youâre really really invested in this video game characterâs sexuality Iâm glad you take your paper Mario side character lore so seriously!
Iâll explainâThe ghosts refer to themselves as the shadow sisters, but when Vivian says this they get mad at her and say she canât do soâshe says they call her their brother. This would be a very weird and out of place insult as even in Japan Otokonoko have existed for a while as said by a few others here. The community interpreted this as Vivian having been the brother of the other two originally and wanting to be accepted as their sister.
And you know what, even if this isnât exactly what the developers originally intended they are obviously leaning into it for the remaster. So you can let the community interpret it in a way that makes them feel happy and represented! You have no investment or attachment to whether or not this character is transâunlike others, so your dedication to this question is something I find a tad bit humorousâI apologize for mocking you though đ I hope this gives you a new dinner table discussion tonight!
@Retro_Zelda Asking for the writers to come on and clarify something obviously wrong that youâve commented like 80 times and been ignored for a reason is wild bro đđ climb on out of the butt imprint in your chair and go touch some grass
Itâs a soapbox yâall Actually wild how many people are like âyo itâs just a gameâ but then go and reply to like 8 comments because they have opposing opinions Alana likes the character because itâs a cool example of gaming embracing representation thatâs all itâs not like a harsh take or opinion or anything itâs like if I said I like Mario because he wears red đ there is no opinion to be had here on whether or not thatâs right
I will call out homie with the yoshi pfp specificallyâyou certainly seem to care a lot about the âsexualizationâ of Mario characters good sir Also saying Nintendo hasnât done anything like this since 2004 is outright wrong lmaoâgo look up games like captain rainbow and the Xenoblade references mentioned in the above articleâthat you couldâve skipped out on reading if it offended you so much Calling attention to Mario liking peach isnât sexualizing characters in an E rated game so a ghost saying they like being called sister rather than brother is even less so Also quit saying itâs just a game and then replying to everyone you disagree with you can go ahead and admit you care a whole lot đ As do I obviously implied from this lengthy response
Anyways great article guys sorry the worst are always the most vocal, your work is appreciated.
Wow I'm really sorry it can be so brutal playing the game without those features. It's wild to me that Nintendo still isn't willing to make those changes. I hope for the author's sake and others that they remedy this soon.
I went to a "midnight" launch here (it was at 9pm haha) Two people arrived together, a guy dressed as a Yiga handing out pictures of might bananas and lady dressed as Beedle, big backpack and all. Highlight of the wait tbh
Just wanna say I literally called this like months ago hehe. Really cool splatfest theme though, I'll try and get in if possible I think I might go with courage...
@PinderSchloss Listen it's fine to say the game might not be to your liking after seeing about 3 minutes of what it has to offer and not knowing anything about the story, that's a perfectly logical conclusion. But, don't say "I don't know how everyone is gobbling this up" different people like different things and if you've gone this far without realizing that... don't shame others for enjoying a MASSIVE expansion of what they already loved
I'm also just a tad confused by your outlook on DLC? Would you rather they waited 6 years and released this game within Botw or something? You're saying sequels set in the same world might as well be dlc- but also, no dlc because yeah that's bad too :0
Don't even pretend Xenoblade 3 wasn't already absolutely packed with content too lmao. If the dlc is anything like Torna it'll be an entire other game but for cheaper.
@BananaMetallurgica Because they're both insanely fun large-scale rpgs that are universally recognized as some of the best of that genre.
People have different gaming tastes, if you don't like them that's okay, but you have to recognize that they belong here.
Oop didn't see Fishy already said something haha
Great! Still think NL ought to go back with a bit fairer of a review but whatever I guess. I've had so much fun with the game so far, and free new playable characters?! Heck yea man
This game is honestly tied with the other 2 for me. Or really really close at least, I think all the games are 10/10s though. Love the story, the gameplay (it's soooo good), you can't beat the music, the world and characters. I understand the complaint with female character designs but I think most people who say that either didn't finish or were looking for a reason to dislike the game, because it's incredibly easy to look past it at all the better stuff. Happy 5th anniversary XC2!
People forget Fujibayashi directed all 3 of these. I think it makes sense too, one of the biggest reasons SS exists is for Demise's curse and he was a big focus of the game. BotW had a strong Zelda focus, with all the memories. So far for TotK, we've seen two forms of Link meaning it could have a greater focus on him and round out the triforce trio.
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Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
Thank goodness the sensible people have begun to arrive
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
@Takoda Sad for humanity in the long run but also wonât lie, itâs pretty funny to see people pulling long winded 9/11 analogies out of their arse to fight for whether or not a paper Mario side character is trans
But yeah it is best to try and communicate with those willing to understand to an extent and Iâm glad to see that for as many blatant haters swarming to the comments as they are there are still a lot of people willing to see reason or who think itâs all a tad silly
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
@AtlanteanMan Holy yappaccino đ how did I barely skim your post and read both Hitler and 9/11 how in the hell is that connected to a paper mario character đ
Also this is a British based site-
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
@Retro_Zelda @Takoda I completely agree, if itâs for the purpose of self-fulfillment then any interpretation that makes you feel seen or happy with the character is awesome and I think if it makes the reader of said statements happy then thereâs no problem and they should keep it up.
Apologies if I really misread your questionsâI think itâs fairly clear how people often left out or bullied (like you are saying is bad) looking for representation in a character might see her as trans
But your case has a point to it as well, and if itâs what you see as the more logical assumption from the provided dialogue then I think thatâs awesome and you should embrace that as your Nintendo truth â
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
@Retro_Zelda Nope it definitely isnât and when I scroll up I can see youâve asked it 5 or 6 other times so I know youâre really really invested in this video game characterâs sexuality Iâm glad you take your paper Mario side character lore so seriously!
Iâll explainâThe ghosts refer to themselves as the shadow sisters, but when Vivian says this they get mad at her and say she canât do soâshe says they call her their brother. This would be a very weird and out of place insult as even in Japan Otokonoko have existed for a while as said by a few others here. The community interpreted this as Vivian having been the brother of the other two originally and wanting to be accepted as their sister.
And you know what, even if this isnât exactly what the developers originally intended they are obviously leaning into it for the remaster. So you can let the community interpret it in a way that makes them feel happy and represented! You have no investment or attachment to whether or not this character is transâunlike others, so your dedication to this question is something I find a tad bit humorousâI apologize for mocking you though đ
I hope this gives you a new dinner table discussion tonight!
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
@Retro_Zelda Asking for the writers to come on and clarify something obviously wrong that youâve commented like 80 times and been ignored for a reason is wild bro đđ climb on out of the butt imprint in your chair and go touch some grass
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Needs More Characters Like Paper Mario's Vivian
Itâs a soapbox yâall
Actually wild how many people are like âyo itâs just a gameâ but then go and reply to like 8 comments because they have opposing opinions
Alana likes the character because itâs a cool example of gaming embracing representation thatâs all itâs not like a harsh take or opinion or anything itâs like if I said I like Mario because he wears red đ there is no opinion to be had here on whether or not thatâs right
I will call out homie with the yoshi pfp specificallyâyou certainly seem to care a lot about the âsexualizationâ of Mario characters good sir
Also saying Nintendo hasnât done anything like this since 2004 is outright wrong lmaoâgo look up games like captain rainbow and the Xenoblade references mentioned in the above articleâthat you couldâve skipped out on reading if it offended you so much
Calling attention to Mario liking peach isnât sexualizing characters in an E rated game so a ghost saying they like being called sister rather than brother is even less so
Also quit saying itâs just a game and then replying to everyone you disagree with you can go ahead and admit you care a whole lot đ
As do I obviously implied from this lengthy response
Anyways great article guys sorry the worst are always the most vocal, your work is appreciated.
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Cool event but good lord that trailer killed me
"Toe curlingly cheesy" is an amazing way to describe that I applaud you Jim
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Love Kwingsletsplays, it was a nice surprise seeing them here
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I watched the comparison video and thought it sounded perfectly fine till the last clip of Kevin... Still not bad but I understand the complaints ig
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This is ****ing hilarious
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@LikeWhoa Invisible and invincible are still two different words though
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That subhead made me smirk
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Wow I'm really sorry it can be so brutal playing the game without those features. It's wild to me that Nintendo still isn't willing to make those changes. I hope for the author's sake and others that they remedy this soon.
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@Ryu_Niiyama That would make my year
Re: Video: We Went To The Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Midnight Launch
I went to a "midnight" launch here (it was at 9pm haha)
Two people arrived together, a guy dressed as a Yiga handing out pictures of might bananas and lady dressed as Beedle, big backpack and all. Highlight of the wait tbh
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Glad she's back, I really loved her performance in BotW and AoC
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Just wanna say I literally called this like months ago hehe. Really cool splatfest theme though, I'll try and get in if possible I think I might go with courage...
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Flame Gleeok huh? So you're telling me there are other kinds...
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BROOOO IT LOOKS WILD I'M IN SHOCK
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I swear Nintendo is spinning a random household item wheel and making pre-order goodies from what the wheel lands on
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@reporterdavid That killed me- thank you
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@SpoonySpoons Well yeah lol, I'm not saying I like that it's 70 dollars, I'll just think it's easily worth it in the end
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Trailer Gets Creative With Vehicle Building, Fused Weapons
@PinderSchloss Great response, I get how you feel in some aspects, I hope the game's release or future trailers can convince you it's worth it!
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Trailer Gets Creative With Vehicle Building, Fused Weapons
@PinderSchloss Listen it's fine to say the game might not be to your liking after seeing about 3 minutes of what it has to offer and not knowing anything about the story, that's a perfectly logical conclusion. But, don't say "I don't know how everyone is gobbling this up" different people like different things and if you've gone this far without realizing that... don't shame others for enjoying a MASSIVE expansion of what they already loved
I'm also just a tad confused by your outlook on DLC? Would you rather they waited 6 years and released this game within Botw or something? You're saying sequels set in the same world might as well be dlc- but also, no dlc because yeah that's bad too :0
Don't even pretend Xenoblade 3 wasn't already absolutely packed with content too lmao. If the dlc is anything like Torna it'll be an entire other game but for cheaper.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Trailer Gets Creative With Vehicle Building, Fused Weapons
I for one- Think everything looks awesome so far. Can't wait to instabuy this and play the heck out of it for several years just like I did Botw.
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@BananaMetallurgica Because they're both insanely fun large-scale rpgs that are universally recognized as some of the best of that genre.
People have different gaming tastes, if you don't like them that's okay, but you have to recognize that they belong here.
Oop didn't see Fishy already said something haha
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@Bizzyb One can hope lol I need me some more castlevania
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Really cool that Konami is letting them do this though, I might have to pick up Dead Cells just for this DLC
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Dang. I considered going to the grand opening but I didn't quite have that time on my hands. I wish I had known Miyamoto was gonna show up!
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That headline killed me
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14/16 lets goooooooo
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Huh, so did Mattel or Uno pay them or something, like what makes them want to promote Uno of all things
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@-wc- I don't have Twitter lol, so this is new to me. Not a huge Fortnite guy but still, you gotta cut them some slack
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I almost retched reading that
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@Pod I feel really dumb for not realizing that...
Re: Sonic Frontiers Has Sold Over 2.5 Million Copies Worldwide
Great! Still think NL ought to go back with a bit fairer of a review but whatever I guess. I've had so much fun with the game so far, and free new playable characters?! Heck yea man
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Imagine being the kid who's mom does this though
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That's so sad, those are so iconic.
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Rainbow Road can't be beat here imo, I do love Maple Treeway and Peach Gardens too though!
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Guys omg so quirky she's a gamer now
Good for her lol
Re: Monolith Soft Celebrates Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Fifth Anniversary With Special Artwork
This game is honestly tied with the other 2 for me. Or really really close at least, I think all the games are 10/10s though. Love the story, the gameplay (it's soooo good), you can't beat the music, the world and characters.
I understand the complaint with female character designs but I think most people who say that either didn't finish or were looking for a reason to dislike the game, because it's incredibly easy to look past it at all the better stuff.
Happy 5th anniversary XC2!
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The subheading killed me for some reason
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People forget Fujibayashi directed all 3 of these. I think it makes sense too, one of the biggest reasons SS exists is for Demise's curse and he was a big focus of the game. BotW had a strong Zelda focus, with all the memories. So far for TotK, we've seen two forms of Link meaning it could have a greater focus on him and round out the triforce trio.
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If you get close to klawf it looks suspiciously like he's trying to pinch your toesies
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Where's Sonic Frontiers at?
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Has Been Rated For Nintendo Switch
@ValZ I didn't forget, I just didn't know that! Good to know though, and pretty assuring, thanks!