It's not the first time that Ninty and Shigsy's comments about Pikmin have been suspect. Remember when Pikmin 3 was announced after the E3 2008 press conference and we didn't see anything from it for years? Funny that.
Awesome interview. I've always had a soft spot for Renegade Kid, especially the 3D titles like Dementium. The fact they could even attempt a first-person 3D horror game on the DS was nuts!
@ThanosReXXX Thanks for the links. I really hope the story of him buying a baseball team without ever seeing a match is true.
As the for the mashable list, there are a few I was unaware of (or the full details) - the N&B Blocks one certainly I didn't know. Nintendo's court cases have always been interesting ones!
@SmaMan Thanks for the explanation man. Ah it was Hiroshi Yamauchi. That's a really cool story concerning Ninty. And as for the financial investment, it certainly beats out the love hotels they owned.
Tanaka's comments on sound design and criticism kind of remind me of the negative reaction Ennio Morricone got when he composed for John Carpenter's The Thing. They're both now seen as iconic elements of the overall game/film.
Nice to see some new things shaking this up a little. But, this will be the last trailer I see. It's always more fun when you know less with Pokemon. I look forward to it.
@Kirk Glad to know I'm not on my own! Although for some reason the formatting on my comments doesn't work! Ah well, incoherent paragraphs for me it seems!
The thing is that so many aspects of the Wii U were botched in some way:
The name was awful and unclear as to what the console's vision was.
The operating system was slow and didn't get that much faster.
Online play had it's troubles of speed and connectivity.
Digital games were tied to hardware and not to an account.
The hard-drive space was way too small, especially when they tried to push more digital sales.
Nintendo didn't seem that bothered about using the tablet much themselves (although Super Mario Maker was a genius use of it, but it came in 2015!).
Having one tablet per system is a strange set-up and puts players in different position when having same-room multi-player.
They focused so much on the tablet and didn't talk about the system.
Not a big amount of new IPs.
The sad thing is a lot of these aspects feel like basics that they should have hammered in at the start, but never did. That's one reason why Wii was so successful. They hammered home what it was, what it did, why it was important, why it was different and marketed the living sh*t out of it.
As for their future, I'm not optimistic as far as home console is concerned, but, as always, we can only wait and see.
@ZeldaFan5991 It's good to get a little more clarification on that. The funny thing is on the surface of things, the UK tells itself it should be offended by it, but behind closed doors no one gives a sh*t. I use it here and there, but especially if I think someone uptight might be offended.
@ZeldaFan5991 Well, it's not as bad in the UK (people swear casually a lot here) as in the US. If anything it just makes me laugh. Why delay the inevitable?
On my travels in Australia, I came to the understanding that c*nt is essentially interchangable for "mate".
I'm honestly looking forward to this more than Xenoverse 2. This looks great. I tried emailing Bandai Namco in the UK about this, but they have no idea whether it'll be released here... or so they told me...
A VR system featuring Nintendo's 60s love hotels. Create your own scenarios. Fun for all the family!
But seriously, I'm not too bothered by these mini consoles, because emulators and original hardware. But I'd go for a GameCube one if anything. They haven't re-released most GameCube games and the smaller core collection of titles would actually fit this format quite well.
And that's the beauty of the Pokemon world, as opposed to ours. Organised crime can be instantly solved simply by having a Pokemon battle, with every party respecting the outcome.
So basically they're not entirely sure what they're doing yet.
@MitchVogel I agree. Ninty have this habit of claiming they're not running the same race, but they are. And the sooner they get their heads out of the sand, the better.
Whilst I like the presentation of the digital events, Nintendo's best moments are still in the past for me. I agree with Liam's summary of Reggie coming out with that immortal line.
But it might have to be E3 2001 for me. I received my favourite moment on VHS with the first issue of NGC magazine. It was when Shigsy came out to the stage and introduced the GameCube by saying: "Let me introduce you to our new baby... Like all babies it's small... but it will make a lot of noise."
Awesome write-up @Damo! The Game Boy Pocket was my first handheld for me and my brother. We got Links Awakening and the Game Boy Camera. Soon afterwards we get the Super Mario Land games and the holy grail: Pokemon Red and Blue.
So far so good. Kind of regretting missing the boat on the Kickstarter (Shenmue 3 being largely responsible!) but I'll be getting this if it continues well.
Good ol' Koji, or Kozza as he is known to his mates.
I know it isn't only Nintendo, but why do the big electronics manufacturers insist on using Foxconn, a company which has a history of employee suicides and an abusive work environment?
Let's not sugar coat it - it's just Zelda and Nintendo are going to have a terrible E3. This clearly wasn't part of the original plan and I doubt it's going to be that interesting with everything else going on.
In all honesty, I think it's better to be a bit more honest and critique Nintendo where they need it, because right now they don't seem to have much of a clue.
But on the plus side, at least it won't be as bad as the AMD PC Gaming Super Show.
Wow, this looks great! A lot of Dragon Ball games have been lacking for me in the last few years, and this looks really unique. It looks as though it has a fresh concept, and the gameplay looks really interesting - especially the exploratory and strategic elements.
With all sorts of possible combinations for fusions and character customisation, this is the most excited I've been about a Dragon Ball game in years!
It's simple. Miitomo isn't really that interesting and there isn't that much to do. Also bear in mind that a lot of mobile game apps of that sort are only intended to gain a lot of money very quickly. People don't care about them in the same way that people care about other games, they don't become emotionally attached to them.
Of course, not all mobile games are like that. You have things like Monument Valley which have some real care and attention thrown in and will be remembered and followed. But not things like Candy Crush.
In my personal opinion, it's a market that is vapid and poisonous - but it's no secret that it's purely generated for financial gain, not much else.
What Nintendo is doing feels very much like "Oh, that's a popular venture and makes money, let's do it too." But unless they offer an experience with a lot more depth and integrity, it'll turn into a lot of other mobile games: a soulless flash in the pan.
We'll have to wait and see what the future mobile games from Nintendo bring, but right now I'm not that optimistic they really understand it.
A really great read this. The Virtual Boy's always been a strange creature. Whilst it isn't a great device (let's not kid ourselves), I'm not sure it deserves its fate as the Internet whipping boy (pun intended). Afterall, there were many VR devices that were just as bad, if not worse.
I liken it to Sinclair's C5. The ideas behind it are interesting, but it just wasn't carried out correctly and the technology wasn't really there yet. But it's interesting to learn about it - and it's worth trying out for the likes of Teleroboxer.
Well I guess depending on your outlook original Pokemon dialogue such as: "I like feisty kids like you!" and "I came when I heard you beat the Elite Four." could be considered adult.
@jsty3105 Well I'm glad my passion didn't descend into being cranky, as we all have our own views. But if anything, it's good to encounter views that aren't your own, so your opinion actually made me think - which is great!
Also, at this point - it's all speculative anyway. It's not the first time Nintendo has flirted with this idea in the past!
Meant to write a comment on this. Good work as always @Shiryu!
This was a fascinating read and is a game I wish to dig into now. The tone for a Super Famicom game sounds entirely different and enthralling. And as others have said, that artwork is stonkingly gorgeous.
@jsty3105 I intend nothing but respect in response, but I find this summation to be quite a cold, clinical one.
Obviously the quality of Nintendo's shorts (not the article of clothing mind you, which I'm sure are lovely) is of subjective value, these shorts aren't going radically change anything. And the individuals involved in making Pokemon aren't working at Nintendo, it's purely under their supervision. It doesn't change the fact that a lot of Nintendo's games aren't geared towards traditional narrative structures. Shigsy has gone on the record as not being too bothered by it and to try and squeeze traditional narrative out of something that isn't geared towards it would be a huge mis-step.
I would disagree that Nintendo's recent troubles have anything to do with brand recognition. One part of it is the fact that Nintendo have been relying on a lot of the same IPs for a long time and has not been updating their own design ideas. Their recent successes are the ones where they do expand and go with the ideas of younger designers and people. Splatoon is a great example of a great game that has a Nintendo touch whilst feeling fresh. And it sold very well for them.
If people aren't excited about the source of your IP (i.e. the games themselves), then they aren't going to be excited about any potential spin-offs. Although I have complained about Pokemon moving forward slowly, the intrinsic nature of the game is still very fun - and the other aspects of it
Another part of the problem is that their hardware is outdated, and they haven't utilised certain gimmicks of their own (e.g. the Wii U Gamepad) to full effect.
You also have weak third-party ties which means that people will look elsewhere for those games.
My point is that if your IP is tired in the first place, it doesn't matter how much you licence your franchise out into other areas. Nintendo have shrunk this pool themselves with some very bad decisions in recent years. And cranking out more movies, mobile games isn't going to solve it. If these ventures are exceptionally considered and well-thought out then it could change things - but right now such a thing feels like desperation and played by the numbers.
It's sad to have to write such things. Nintendo have so much potential but they haven't lived up to it well in recent times, but at least the 3DS has been a corking handheld.
Nintendo need to make new IPs, take on new ideas and hand much more power to their younger designers and artists. Their success has lay in the past with people like Gunpei Yokoi, Shigeru Miyamoto and Takashi Tezuka. Relative newcomers like Tsubasa Sakaguchi should have a lot more say in creative decisions. Just my two shiny bronze pennies.
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Re: A New Pikmin Game is Coming to 3DS
It's not the first time that Ninty and Shigsy's comments about Pikmin have been suspect. Remember when Pikmin 3 was announced after the E3 2008 press conference and we didn't see anything from it for years? Funny that.
Re: Brazilian Listing Gives Hope for Western Release of Dragon Ball Fusions
If this is announced in the 3DS direct, I will perform a jig like a successful 1890's prospector.
Re: Sega 3D Classics Collection 3: Final Stage To Include Mystery Title Picked By Fans
A finished version of Sonic extreme. Just for sh*ts and giggles.
Re: Feature: The Reasons for Renegade Kid's Closure and What's Next For Its Co-Founders
Awesome interview. I've always had a soft spot for Renegade Kid, especially the 3D titles like Dementium. The fact they could even attempt a first-person 3D horror game on the DS was nuts!
Look forward to more titles from both studios.
Re: Random: Nintendo Acknowledges Virtual Boy After Decades of Passive Denial
I remember that Mega64 video with Reggie playing it last year - good fun indeed!
As for Virtual Boy, I never got any headaches playing it, but it wasn't a great machine and didn't have many games that used a 1st person perspective.
Some of the homebrew games are quite interesting, especially Street Fighter II!
I still love ya Gunpei Yokoi!
Re: Video: Catch the Second Episode of the Paper Mario: Color Splash 'Rescue V' Series
I'd rather they "rescue" the series by allowing unique characters, new races, battle partners, deeper narratives and new villains. A man can dream...
Re: Nintendo Confirms $661 Million Sale of Majority Ownership of Seattle Mariners
@ThanosReXXX Thanks for the links. I really hope the story of him buying a baseball team without ever seeing a match is true.
As the for the mashable list, there are a few I was unaware of (or the full details) - the N&B Blocks one certainly I didn't know. Nintendo's court cases have always been interesting ones!
Re: Nintendo Confirms $661 Million Sale of Majority Ownership of Seattle Mariners
@SmaMan Thanks for the explanation man. Ah it was Hiroshi Yamauchi. That's a really cool story concerning Ninty. And as for the financial investment, it certainly beats out the love hotels they owned.
Re: Nintendo Confirms $661 Million Sale of Majority Ownership of Seattle Mariners
Out of interest why did they own the majority share of a baseball team in the first place? Was it Howard Lincoln's doing?
Re: Metroid Composer Shares Personal Note About the 30th Anniversary
Tanaka's comments on sound design and criticism kind of remind me of the negative reaction Ennio Morricone got when he composed for John Carpenter's The Thing. They're both now seen as iconic elements of the overall game/film.
Re: Poll: Which Nintendo NX Games Do You Want to See in the Launch Window?
Can a new IP be an answer please?
I would've selected Paper Mario as one option but Ninty seem intent on covering that franchise in glitter-covered turds.
Re: Video: Animal Crossing Noir Continues to Explore the Mysteries of New Leaf
It's not realistic unless Tom Nook breaks thumbs for unpaid bells. He needs to be shown up for the psychopath he is.
Re: Gallery: Take a Close Look At All The Latest Pokémon and Features in Pokémon Sun and Moon
This is looking very nice indeed, and the Z moves obviously remind me of Dragon Ball!
But, Game Freak, after this can you please make a bloody home console RPG with traits of MMOs... please?
Re: New Pokémon, Areas, Trials and 'Z-Moves' Are Revealed for Pokémon Sun and Moon
Nice to see some new things shaking this up a little. But, this will be the last trailer I see. It's always more fun when you know less with Pokemon. I look forward to it.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime on Why the Wii U Was Misunderstood
@Kirk Glad to know I'm not on my own! Although for some reason the formatting on my comments doesn't work! Ah well, incoherent paragraphs for me it seems!
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime on Why the Wii U Was Misunderstood
The thing is that so many aspects of the Wii U were botched in some way:
The sad thing is a lot of these aspects feel like basics that they should have hammered in at the start, but never did. That's one reason why Wii was so successful. They hammered home what it was, what it did, why it was important, why it was different and marketed the living sh*t out of it.
As for their future, I'm not optimistic as far as home console is concerned, but, as always, we can only wait and see.
Re: Weirdness: Shadow the Hedgehog is Rather Foul-Mouthed in Mario & Sonic at the Rio Olympics
@ZeldaFan5991 It's good to get a little more clarification on that. The funny thing is on the surface of things, the UK tells itself it should be offended by it, but behind closed doors no one gives a sh*t. I use it here and there, but especially if I think someone uptight might be offended.
But yeah, I imagine this is a load of hot air.
Re: Weirdness: Shadow the Hedgehog is Rather Foul-Mouthed in Mario & Sonic at the Rio Olympics
@ZeldaFan5991 Well, it's not as bad in the UK (people swear casually a lot here) as in the US. If anything it just makes me laugh. Why delay the inevitable?
On my travels in Australia, I came to the understanding that c*nt is essentially interchangable for "mate".
Re: Video: Take Another Look at the Action-Packed Dragon Ball Fusions
I'm honestly looking forward to this more than Xenoverse 2. This looks great. I tried emailing Bandai Namco in the UK about this, but they have no idea whether it'll be released here... or so they told me...
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms March 2017 NX Launch And Quality Of Life Concept Development
I'll believe it when they give us an announcement with a specific date mentioned. Natch.
Re: Poll: What Other 'Classic Edition' Nintendo Systems Do You Want to be Released?
A VR system featuring Nintendo's 60s love hotels. Create your own scenarios. Fun for all the family!
But seriously, I'm not too bothered by these mini consoles, because emulators and original hardware. But I'd go for a GameCube one if anything. They haven't re-released most GameCube games and the smaller core collection of titles would actually fit this format quite well.
Re: Unwanted Side-Effects Of Pokémon GO Include Robbery, Personal Injury And Dangerous Driving
And that's the beauty of the Pokemon world, as opposed to ours. Organised crime can be instantly solved simply by having a Pokemon battle, with every party respecting the outcome.
Re: Upcoming Tetris Movie is Confirmed to be the First in a Trilogy
One more film and they would've had a quadrilogy. For shame.
Re: Nintendo NX Has A Core Idea Which Doesn't Just "Follow Advancements In Technology", Claims Miyamoto
So basically they're not entirely sure what they're doing yet.
@MitchVogel I agree. Ninty have this habit of claiming they're not running the same race, but they are. And the sooner they get their heads out of the sand, the better.
Re: New Sonic the Hedgehog Game is Coming in 2017
They'll have to show me gameplay before they get any level of interest... and perhaps a bucket filled with sorrowful tears of Sonic Team employees.
Re: E3 2016: New Kind Of Mario Game Is Coming, Says Shigeru Miyamoto
And Pikmin 4 is almost complete right? Yeah... sure Shigsy... sure...
Re: Feature: Our Favourite Nintendo E3 Moments
Whilst I like the presentation of the digital events, Nintendo's best moments are still in the past for me. I agree with Liam's summary of Reggie coming out with that immortal line.
But it might have to be E3 2001 for me. I received my favourite moment on VHS with the first issue of NGC magazine. It was when Shigsy came out to the stage and introduced the GameCube by saying: "Let me introduce you to our new baby... Like all babies it's small... but it will make a lot of noise."
In the conference they showed Smash Bros Melee. - check it out: https://youtu.be/thn-KLhZbeo?t=2m45s
Re: Hardware Classics: Game Boy Pocket
Awesome write-up @Damo! The Game Boy Pocket was my first handheld for me and my brother. We got Links Awakening and the Game Boy Camera. Soon afterwards we get the Super Mario Land games and the holy grail: Pokemon Red and Blue.
Re: New Lego Dimensions Packs Confirmed, Beetlejuice And The A-Team Make The Cut
Wow, I'm not an active player of Lego Dimensions but that is a monster announcement for them!
Re: Super Mario Movie Director Talks Hopper Headaches And Wanting DeVito But Getting Hoskins
I think it's lovely that one of Bowser's children got involved with the production. Keep it in the family and that.
Re: Video: Check Out This Early Footage of Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
@MitchVogel Thank you kind sir. To the bank!
Re: Video: Check Out This Early Footage of Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
So far so good. Kind of regretting missing the boat on the Kickstarter (Shenmue 3 being largely responsible!) but I'll be getting this if it continues well.
Good ol' Koji, or Kozza as he is known to his mates.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Nintendo's Expanded E3 Plans?
@MrGawain That is one of the best analogies in the history of humanity.
Re: Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap Reboot Confirmed For Consoles, Looks Gorgeous
@Damo But what about Young Nasty Man?
Re: Nintendo NX Production Reportedly Pushed Back To 2017 To Incorporate Virtual Reality
I know it isn't only Nintendo, but why do the big electronics manufacturers insist on using Foxconn, a company which has a history of employee suicides and an abusive work environment?
Re: Guide: A Nintendo Fan's Breakdown of E3 2016's Press Conferences and Events
Let's not sugar coat it - it's just Zelda and Nintendo are going to have a terrible E3. This clearly wasn't part of the original plan and I doubt it's going to be that interesting with everything else going on.
In all honesty, I think it's better to be a bit more honest and critique Nintendo where they need it, because right now they don't seem to have much of a clue.
But on the plus side, at least it won't be as bad as the AMD PC Gaming Super Show.
Re: Harvest Moon: Skytree Village Is Ploughing A Furrow Towards The Nintendo 3DS
Sorry Natsume, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome Stardew Valley is.
Re: Video: Marvel at the Madness of Dragon Ball Fusions
Wow, this looks great! A lot of Dragon Ball games have been lacking for me in the last few years, and this looks really unique. It looks as though it has a fresh concept, and the gameplay looks really interesting - especially the exploratory and strategic elements.
With all sorts of possible combinations for fusions and character customisation, this is the most excited I've been about a Dragon Ball game in years!
Can this be released in Europe please?!
Re: SurveyMonkey Intelligence Breaks Down the Declining Usage of Miitomo
It's simple. Miitomo isn't really that interesting and there isn't that much to do. Also bear in mind that a lot of mobile game apps of that sort are only intended to gain a lot of money very quickly. People don't care about them in the same way that people care about other games, they don't become emotionally attached to them.
Of course, not all mobile games are like that. You have things like Monument Valley which have some real care and attention thrown in and will be remembered and followed. But not things like Candy Crush.
In my personal opinion, it's a market that is vapid and poisonous - but it's no secret that it's purely generated for financial gain, not much else.
What Nintendo is doing feels very much like "Oh, that's a popular venture and makes money, let's do it too." But unless they offer an experience with a lot more depth and integrity, it'll turn into a lot of other mobile games: a soulless flash in the pan.
We'll have to wait and see what the future mobile games from Nintendo bring, but right now I'm not that optimistic they really understand it.
Re: Turns Out The History Of The Virtual Boy Is More Interesting Than The Console Itself
A really great read this. The Virtual Boy's always been a strange creature. Whilst it isn't a great device (let's not kid ourselves), I'm not sure it deserves its fate as the Internet whipping boy (pun intended). Afterall, there were many VR devices that were just as bad, if not worse.
I liken it to Sinclair's C5. The ideas behind it are interesting, but it just wasn't carried out correctly and the technology wasn't really there yet. But it's interesting to learn about it - and it's worth trying out for the likes of Teleroboxer.
Re: Review: Now I know my ABCs (Wii U eShop)
No further spoilers after the letter B please.
Re: Video: Learn a Little More About Sonic Boom and The Rise (and Fall) of Lyric
This explains a lot. Sonic has been a joke for so long that it's not really funny anymore.
Re: Meet The Edgy And Mature Fan-Made Pokémon Game That Aims To "Fix" The Series
Well I guess depending on your outlook original Pokemon dialogue such as: "I like feisty kids like you!" and "I came when I heard you beat the Elite Four." could be considered adult.
Re: Rumour: Smash Bros. Update 1.1.6 Only Seems To Impact Bayonetta
Radiohead's first single from their new album was obviously anticipating this moment.
Re: Nintendo Plans Corporate Changes That Point to Diverse Business Moves
Bring back the love hotels.
Re: Nintendo is Getting Into the Movie Business
@jsty3105 Well I'm glad my passion didn't descend into being cranky, as we all have our own views. But if anything, it's good to encounter views that aren't your own, so your opinion actually made me think - which is great!
Also, at this point - it's all speculative anyway. It's not the first time Nintendo has flirted with this idea in the past!
Anyway, have a good day!
Re: Review: Majyuuou (SNES)
Meant to write a comment on this. Good work as always @Shiryu!
This was a fascinating read and is a game I wish to dig into now. The tone for a Super Famicom game sounds entirely different and enthralling. And as others have said, that artwork is stonkingly gorgeous.
Re: Tatsumi Kimishima Reiterates That Nintendo NX Is A New Way Of Playing Games
The only thing we can do is play the waiting game...
...or play Hungry Hungry Hippos.
Re: Nintendo is Getting Into the Movie Business
@jsty3105 I intend nothing but respect in response, but I find this summation to be quite a cold, clinical one.
Obviously the quality of Nintendo's shorts (not the article of clothing mind you, which I'm sure are lovely) is of subjective value, these shorts aren't going radically change anything. And the individuals involved in making Pokemon aren't working at Nintendo, it's purely under their supervision. It doesn't change the fact that a lot of Nintendo's games aren't geared towards traditional narrative structures. Shigsy has gone on the record as not being too bothered by it and to try and squeeze traditional narrative out of something that isn't geared towards it would be a huge mis-step.
I would disagree that Nintendo's recent troubles have anything to do with brand recognition. One part of it is the fact that Nintendo have been relying on a lot of the same IPs for a long time and has not been updating their own design ideas. Their recent successes are the ones where they do expand and go with the ideas of younger designers and people. Splatoon is a great example of a great game that has a Nintendo touch whilst feeling fresh. And it sold very well for them.
If people aren't excited about the source of your IP (i.e. the games themselves), then they aren't going to be excited about any potential spin-offs. Although I have complained about Pokemon moving forward slowly, the intrinsic nature of the game is still very fun - and the other aspects of it
Another part of the problem is that their hardware is outdated, and they haven't utilised certain gimmicks of their own (e.g. the Wii U Gamepad) to full effect.
You also have weak third-party ties which means that people will look elsewhere for those games.
My point is that if your IP is tired in the first place, it doesn't matter how much you licence your franchise out into other areas. Nintendo have shrunk this pool themselves with some very bad decisions in recent years. And cranking out more movies, mobile games isn't going to solve it. If these ventures are exceptionally considered and well-thought out then it could change things - but right now such a thing feels like desperation and played by the numbers.
It's sad to have to write such things. Nintendo have so much potential but they haven't lived up to it well in recent times, but at least the 3DS has been a corking handheld.
Nintendo need to make new IPs, take on new ideas and hand much more power to their younger designers and artists. Their success has lay in the past with people like Gunpei Yokoi, Shigeru Miyamoto and Takashi Tezuka. Relative newcomers like Tsubasa Sakaguchi should have a lot more say in creative decisions. Just my two shiny bronze pennies.
Re: A Surprisingly Hardcore Snow White NES Game Magically Surfaces
When I saw the words "hardcore" and "Snow White" my mind started heading in a different direction. Rule 34 and all that.
But this is really interesting. Disney did have a period where it had seriously hardcore games being made.