Nintendo has just published its 2016 Annual Report, and tucked away alongside all of the numbers and figures you'll find some interesting titbits about the company's future products.
First up is NX, which was once again confirmed as coming in March next year:
Nintendo is also devoted to the development of a gaming platform codenamed "NX" with a brand-new concept, which will be launched in March 2017 globally.
Given that Nintendo has mentioned March again in relation to NX, it would be fairly safe to say that the console is now locked in for that release window.
The Quality of Life initiative - something set into motion by the late Satoru Iwata - still appears to be on the agenda:
Moreover, Nintendo is working on the development of a new product that improves people's QOL (Quality of Life) in enjoyable ways. Nintendo's aim is to enable consumers to make daily efforts to improve their QOL in a fun manner by making sleep and fatigue status visible and offering various services based on this information.
No release window was given for QoL, which would suggest we may not see it arrive until 2017 or even later.
[source nintendo.co.jp]
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The Nintendo QOL of life product enables you to encase yourself in plastic and become the Amiibo.
Please understand.
Oh my...
NX will be launched with 'Mysterious Product' ?
Wonder what it could be...
@Piersen they already had people posing on Amiibo stands at Hyper Japan
QOL and NX rolled into 1?
"gaming platform" codename NX.
I think it is telling they are still using the word "platform", not console. Now I'm wondering if both the Wii U and 3DS will get replaced then. And maybe a tablet too.
I want to know when the NX reveal is.
@ningeek185 At the end of August. It could slip into early September.
Perhaps its time you dated a Direct to finally talk about and reveal the darn console? Come on, while the stocks are at a huge high thanks to Pokemon Go!
"No release window was given for QoL, which would suggest we may not see it arrive until 2017 or even later."
It could be a program used through NX or mobile... They never said, "new device." Well, if it uses wireless radiation, then that would ironically be a detriment to one's Quality of Life if you use it while you're sleeping. You're supposed to turn off all of your electronics before going to sleep. Anything generating blue light on the light wave spectrum (such as monitors and TV's) or wireless radiation (phones, tablets, wireless modems, routers, etc.) can disrupt otherwise optimal sleep patterns and conditions.
Or maybe the Quality of Life device will not be related to NX and become a new business unit, aiming to make Nintendo less dependant on the video game market and diversifying its portfolio, just like other big Japanese companies (Konami manages a group of health center if I remeber right). Just saying, it is also an option
@PlywoodStick
I'm thinking about Baymax Nursing Mode for QOL. A game device that also can help player to stay healthy.
@Piersen
And the Joke Of The Day Award goes to... Piersen!
QOL - How to stay alive by dodging cars on the motorway whilst playing Pokémon Go!
NX to be bundled with human worn indicators and hazard lights!
Yep 3rd time March has been mentioned. Unless something disastrous happens it's coming out that month.
There is a theory that the NX will have QOL elements, but QOL will be its own separate entity. If Nintendo can expand on itws own wiifit, Fitbit & other QOL hardware, I think it could have a chance, the dangers are of course overcharging for it, but it almost sounds like a service product (with or without monthly fees) and software.
I kinda laughed at the Ubisoft article about being excited for NX, they are excited for ANYTHING, so while its nice praise, coming from UBI doesn't solidify anything.
@WebHead Doesn't the Chinese New Year fall around March? That usually causes massive manufacturing issues for some parts of the toy industry. It could cause supply issues for the NX as well.
@rjejr : So astute you are.
"Where we used to think of a platform as the underlying computer system, we now probably have to accept the fact that the industry considers a platform to be anything that you can build upon. To be clearer, a platform could be your smartphone i.e. it has its own device form factor and its own ability to interconnect with other software streams, therefore it’s a platform that you can do other things with that were not originally envisaged at the time of its initial design – and this is the important point."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2015/03/17/whats-the-difference-between-a-software-product-and-a-platform/#22bbae613877
So maybe "platform" is being used to describe the NX as a portable handheld-console hybrid thingy . . . or maybe not . . . .
I've just read an interesting piece on how the Japanese are changing social attitudes to depression (and other mental health issues as extension).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36824927
I wonder if QoL will reflect part of that changing landscape. There is some recognition that extremely long working hours can affect depression, so I suppose it ties in somehow with sleep sensors, if not directly. I'm incidently reminded of the Trauma Centre game, where guilt was the name of the causative agent of a range of life-threatening (though fabricated) conditions.
NX is still anyone's guess.
Okay. This is the 3rd time that Nintendo said the NX will launch in March, but I STILL don't believe that console releasing in March. They said it 3 times now, but it GONNA get pushed back. I heard that the Wii U was said to launch early 2012, but instead launched November 2012. Guys, one of you, reply to this comment and tell me if I was right. But anyway, I got that from some guy that commented on a YouTube video and was talking about it. He said that consoles need steps. First unveiling, tech demos, and it's final modal with its set of games. The Wii U's final modal was shown at E3 2012. So I don't think we're gonna see the NX launch until probably holiday 2017 or even summer if they get the reveal time right. Again, please reply to this comment and tell me if I was right about what I heard from that guy.
@Hordak if nx is coming out in March manufacturing must begin before this year is over.
Announce it Nintendo
@NintendoEan No you weren't.
Any mention of Project GIANT ROBOT in that Annual Report...?
Edit: I just searched it - no mention
@NintendoEan I don't recall nintendo officially stating a release window for wii u and then pushing it back but I could be wrong.
There have been rumours about nx manufacture for over a year now, I think they are well on course. Console reveals from nintendo usually come about 6 months before release (wii u the exception) so I imagine september reveal for a March launch
@Anti-Matter Where do you get 'Mystery Product' from?
@Morph Ummm, Nintendo normally releases their consoles a year after reveal. Nintendo has never release a console less than a year after it was revealed.
@Yorumi same here sometimes. Tired of being told that I won't be told lol.
Cool!
I'll preorder the NX when those orders are available.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "QOL and NX rolled into 1?"
Nah, there's no sign of that. They're clearly distinct in the annual report too.
Ninty make you GO outside and walk more.
@Moshugan I know they're distinct products in the report but that could be for commercial reasons. I'd say QOL will be mostly an app kind of service that might be provided through the NX and your smart phone. Remember also there's that rumour that NX might have a heart monitor which would be useful for QOL.
@NintendoEan
3ds reveal June 2010 - release feb 2011 - 8 months (a little longer)
ds reveal June 2004 - release nov 2004 - 5 months (a little shorter)
just two examples
Glad the QoL project Is still underway. Hopefully that will account for the recent heart rate monitor articles and keep it away from being a standard interface for the NX itself.
The more I read about it, the more I regret having read about it.
@gcunit No mention of Giant Robot? I think I'm going to cry...
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tears of joy!
If march is written in stone, then March it is.
So we should get all the details in October or at the very latest November.
Of course of its not written in stone then it could be any time in the next 18 months.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I'm gonna hold you to that when it finally releases to immediate and overwhelming critical and public acclaim and wins the title Game of the Millennium...
@gcunit That would be one almighty turnaround. I'd like for it to turn out well but it has its work cut out.
I just want Nintendo to reveal the console and open up preorders already. I even have my preorder money set aside already. Plus when they do the announcement I am sure they will be a glut of new game trailers I can use to get myself hype.
'"brand new" concept'
Again, this still kinda worries me.
Because, to me, I'm just affraid that ultimately translates into "gimmick* that will likely on really appeal to and satisfy casuals or the most loyal fanboys, and something that most third parties and AAA developers simply won't give a flying **** about".
I'm worried, for sure.
*Doesn't mean the underlying idea isn't potentially great, but I'm saying it likely won't realise its full potential and therefor will never be truly satisfying; just like the Wii with its Wiimote and the Wii U with its touchscreen GamePad failed to ever really reach their full potentials as far as I'm concerned, and therefore they were both ultimately disappointing and mostly unsatisfying.
If it is indeed coming March 2017, they should schedule an unveiling of NX, asap. Really, it should have been announced a month ago.
Well, I suffer from sleep apnea and I don't really sleep good at all. Seriously doubt Nintendo's QoL will help improve my situation. >:[
Just give me Zelda. Please.
@rjejr
Platform it is. Hard to weigh too much on single translated words. Like "originally" in today's Zelda article. Still, I'll bite, too. It just seems too timely and if Sony and Microsoft are already spilling on the idea of continually updating platforms, Nintendo having planned it for awhile makes sense. Also, I honestly think Nintendo has more to gain from it. An optimist has a first birth day every minute, I've heard, and they are pretty happy.
"with a brand-new concept".
Now I'm nervous.
URGENT BREAKING NEWS
NX is STILL a console with a brand-new concept coming in March 2017.
Mind BLOWN!!11!~!!!!
very scared about this thing just tell us what it is already
Would anybody mind if by 'platform' they meant something like Steam?
Just show us the console and games already! I am truly anticipated!
I'll believe it when they give us an announcement with a specific date mentioned. Natch.
Another nothing article really.
"We're still launching the NX and we're still doing Quality of Life stuff. So basically nothing is changing."
And this is newsworthy how?
@Kirk It could simply be a a dedicated gaming platform that has compatible games across a home console, a small mobile device, and a tablet-like thing. A dedicated game platform that uses the same model as iOS and android going forward upgrading over time, but with physical controls, and hey, maybe cartridges. This is close to the latest hypothesis from @rjejr I think and it fits "brand new concept" just fine.
Also the streaming from a home console thing or the console plus handheld that it not tethered. That's another way for it to happen.
What get's me thinking is the Ubisoft quote about bringing in casuals. That surprises me given how Miyamoto has been quoted as basically giving up on casuals. Probably just different definitions of the same word, but it sure leaves just about every possibility on the table, still. Or it's just Ubisoft being pleased that Just Dance continues to fit nicely with it somehow.
@FlaygletheBagel
Nintendo has changed it's plans continuously for years now. No mobile. No mobile games that are similar to regular games. Actually that's happening too, but specialized. Splatoon won't get more updates, oh here are some more updates for Splatoon. Zelda release dates.
Sticking to plans could be considered news. Especially since the last we heard about QoL was something to the effect that no progress was being made.
Too bad a confirmation from Nintendo doesn't mean anything. They still "confirmed" Zelda U for 2016 not too much before we finally got the 2017 announcement.
I'm not worried about the QOL but looking forward too hopefully hearing about the NX sometime soon.
@aaronsullivan "Originally" wasn't a translated word, it was just a poor, and 100% incorrect, choice of word. I'll give you the Nintneod stuff could be a translation issue, but they've been saying "platform" since the beginning, at some point even I have to start believing that's what they mean. NX isn't A console, it's at least 2. Or 1 and a tablet, which at some point 'll really have to try and decide what the definition of tablet is?
@kirk So w/ all these rumours about "manufacturing"" we've seen over the past year, do you think any of them could pertain to the NES Mini and not the NX? People are impressed - well that's 1 word for it - that Ntineod has kept NX under wraps for so long - but the NES Mini came out of nowhere, and it's launching in Nov, so production must have already started on that, but there wasn't a single rumour about a retro gaming console. Well unless there was, but we all assumed it was an NX rumour?
@zool You mean 16 or 17 months?
@Morph Um, I'm obviously not talking about Nintendo's handhelds.
@rjejr Yes, absolutely; I believe quite a few of the rumours we've heard and patents we've seen around NX actually have nothing to do with NX at all. It is, however, a total lottery as to which ones. lol
@rjejr I was just suggesting it was potentially mistranslated from the interview which I assume he answered in Japanese as he barely speaks english as far as I can tell. But now I'm not sure how kidding you are.
As for the tablet, and Nintendo "tablet" needs a stick and physical buttons all over it, in my opinion. That's what your imagining, right? I think that means possibly 3 pieces of hardware. That's a platform, eh?
@aaronsullivan God knows what it is or could be at this point. I have no clue. lol
"Or it's just Ubisoft being pleased that Just Dance continues to fit nicely with it somehow."
That's something that genuinely worries me at this point and based on the quote.
I wouldn't be surprised if they revealed what NX actually is on it's release date.
@Yorumi What ads? I don't see any...
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...Uh.... Never mind.
NX is a Mallow amiibo, and QOL is a stuffed animal of same.
@Piersen best first comment in ages, well done!!
I wish they had showed NX at E3.. it's just that they did the WiiU this way and they really paid for not showing it off.
@bluedogrulez "NX as a portable handheld-console hybrid thingy . . . or maybe not . . . ."
Well I certainly hope so. After all this time I hope we can play the same games at home and on the go, not just sitting at home hooked up to a heart monitor. If that's the big "Secret", bleech
I'll believe it when I see it. And I say that with more cautious optimism than pessisim, I assure you.
nintendo will release the NX in a simple yellow question-mark block. inside of it will be nothing but smaller question-mark blocks
@aaronsullivan Man I'm so worn out, but I'll try.
For me, a tablet has no buttons but has a dedicated "app store" w/ FB, Twitter, Netflix and Candy Crush. All of that stuff. Apple has the most, Android has enough, and Amazon is barley cutting it. I'm not sure a tablet w/ Windows app store would even count for me.
A 2DS is almost a tablet, but it has buttons, and the eShop is way to limited. Take the screen out of the 2DS, make a CPP, you get this.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/07/patent_reinforces_the_prospect_of_nintendo_nx_having_a_portable_handset
So it's a tiny tablet - iPod Touch qualifies as a tablet for me. But I'm not sure it's a "real" tablet b/c the eShop is so limited, you can't have a tablet w/o Facebook at least, that's a bare minimum.
I also wonder if they'd make a flat out Android tablet similar to Amazon Fire, which you can APK sideload some Android apps onto. Then use it as an NX controller. Cant really label it NX if it doesn't play NX games, but you can if it doubles as an NX controller.
Once it has buttons though, no tablet. Though if Nintendo made a branded tablet w/ buttons that was Android based - Google Store included - I might have to consider it a tablet. So it's a fine line that I can't keep on 1 side of, hardware or software.
@Kirk "It is, however, a total lottery as to which ones. lol"
OK, for 1 specific 1, do you think that 20mil, changed to 12mil, rumour, could have been about the NES Mini?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/rumour_nintendo_nx_shipping_this_time_next_year_20_million_sales_targeted_in_first_12_months
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/11/rumour_nx_set_for_2016_release_with_nintendo_targeting_20_million_shipped_units
The holiday 2016 date certainly holds.
I'm still in my thinking of a gamepad like controller with a home console and the gamepad can attach to a smart device and use its computing power (supplimental computing power patent) to make it your portable. It will be as powerful as a PS4/XB1 and be both portable and home all in 1 $299 package. It will also be a controller for any mobile games you have on your smart device. The Eshop will be available as 1 store and basically all Nintendo games for all generations of handhelds and home consoles will be available at some point and you will be able to play them anywhere.
If Nintendo can make that work then I think they will sell 40 million in Japan alone
@SLIGEACH_EIRE omg that gif.....borderline sexual harassment to the audience lol
So the system is releasing in 8 or less months and it's all not being showed of until possibly the fall, that's just retarded of you Nintendo.
This is actually the first time I've gotten impatient about waiting for Nintendo to show their next console, usually they show them off a year or two before launch, not like what they are doing with the NX, and the wait is getting annoying.
@rjejr I honestly don't really know at this point.
@Sakura That was really interesting about depression. Overworking and not getting enough sleep seems like it would lead people towards being depressed. Looking forward to finding out more about QoL.
As for NX, it's been going on for that long I'm no longer excited until a proper reveal.
They better show the NX by late August or September,I can't take the waiting anymore!
@Shy_Guy i agree, it's already July and it's still not reveal, hoping that we well see something about it Soon.
If you ask me, Pokemon GO is their first QoL product. And it's super-effective.
So what's the hold up on showing us what the nx looks like? The wait is getting annoying.
@PlywoodStick
I honestly think Pokemon GO is part of the Quality of Life initiative. More people are out exercising improving their quality of life.
I would venture a guess we will see a Nintendo direct sometime in October. The line up of games from now until Nov is largely known and locked into place. The Fall has a lot of stuff coming out for Nintendo. A Direct in the fall would be a great way to reveal the console, generate hype and show fans what's coming next after the holiday season ends. Dec-March isn't a long time but without concrete information on NX, a launch date and launch titles, it will feel like an eternity.
We need a Nintendo Direct soon!
I'd love for them to call it Nintendo System 7 because it is Nintendo's 7th console! it will be interesting what they do call it though.
@rjejr Hrm... no control sticks and gaming friendly buttons... How does it compete then? If it's not dedicated gaming machine first, Nintendo might as well stay out that market I think.
@Luna_110
I think the QOL has already started with Pokemon GO. A lot of people are improving their quality of life with all that exercise.
...welcome to the future..
..mind control?..
This wait is scaring me.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE nah it's separate lol
@Yorumi In reply to #59, pretty much. All of the Nintendo news has been Pokemon related, either Pokemon GO or Sun/Moon. NES Mini is the only real non-Pokemon related news for the most part.
I'd rather have that than NX rumors though!
NX contains a lie-detector, the game will know if you are lying and it will punish you. It knows what you like or dislike and changes the game accordingly. No one will experience the same game in the same way. So, the reviews of the game will be subjective. Everyone will be playing their own game.
If I've said it once I'll say it again >>
As long as I don't have to sing to it or something stupid like that
What if it's a small health based tablet? Like a cheap smartphone without the phone capabilities but with a wristwatch. Could include a ton of health apps including Pokemon Go, other more serious ones like Nike Running, but have a social streetpass/Miitomo/new Animal Crossing game aspect to it too. As well as certain games from the NX handheld.
console with a new gaming concept; want to attract "casual" a usual players; has also a health-in-mind objective= it's a Wii 2 ahah
Qol still a thing?! Oh dear!!
@aaronsullivan "How does it compete then?"
It competes by having Nintendo on it. Have you noticed the proliferation of cheap kids tablets? Kids like tablets.
https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kids+tablet
Nintendo makes a cheap tablet w/ a built in OS that's based on Android like the $50 Amazon Fire and it lets in all of it's DeNA games and Pokemon Go and other "touch" versions of it's games. Miiverse, Miitomo. Pokemon TV.
But it's also useful as an NX controller add-on, os should I say add-in. Maybe it "casts" those touchscreen games to the TV, maybe thru the TV via NX Home. It works as a screen inserted into the NX batarang controller. I woke up this morning and decided @Kirk was right about the NX controller being shaped like a magnet. But not b/c its shaped like a magnet for 1 use in Zelda Wild, but b/c that's the shape of the Gamepad controller when you take the screen out (and the top part where the camera is).
Just flip this upside down. Magnet controller, removable tablet works like the VMU in the Dreamcast controller. Voila.
That's how you get a "platform". NX Home has no screen, just a magnet shaped controller. NX Controller tablet has no buttons, but alas doens't play NX games either, but it becomes a 2nd screen for the NX Home, and just maybe the magnet controller has enough power built in so that when you inset the tablet the controller can be played on the go streaming via WiFi, so the tablet can sort of play NX games, just not w/o the NX Home, it's a Vita-PS4 kind of deal.
This seems to be how Nvida Shield works, I'm not sure, but it looks similar, I just don't follow it that closely. But their slogan is - Android TV, Tablet and Portable. And it just so happens the separate TV and tablet are $199 each, which coincidentally is what I've been saying the NX Home and Away should be (actual Away, not a $50 tablet), though Home at $249 or $299 is more likely, but I think $199 is doable w/o a HDD, only 64GB, or blu-ray drive if it's cartridge only.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-shield-black/8526126.p?id=1219692520013&skuId=8526126&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=75658c6d-b3f1-b8c9-c305-00003fedd0fb&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=pg53500&ksdevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjw5cG8BRDQj_CNh9nwxTUSJAAHdX3fqKRtyFbniYZwia3_Azz9khQfihXKw_RCc0mGy_K9oRoCmhTw_wcB
I'm still working on why they would need a $50 tablet and a $200 Away, but if the Away is complete, and the tablet only works streaming w/ the NX Home magnet controller, it could make sense, as the tablet is the Dreamcast VMU and/or a kid stoy, it won't PLAY NX games, only stream them form NX Home, NX Away is actually a self contained portable NX HOME.
Time for breakfast.
PS - OK, why hasn't anybody ever mentioned the WikiPad to me before? Did you know about this Kirk? It's my freakin NX idea. aaarrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!
It's from 2013. TWENTY THIRTEEN! Head explodes and I die.
http://phandroid.com/2013/06/04/wikipad-release-date/
From the grave - I do think the NX tablet is only 5" or 6", kids dig the iPod touch, very popular, and 5" is big enough for an interactive map. But man...
The buzz earlier was of a patent for pulse monitor tech. This makes more sense with QoL than NX.
@rjejr Yeah, I knew about it—as in, I'd seen it before. But, unfortunately for you, I'm not convinced this is what the NX is going to be. Or, at least, I personally hope it's not that kind of thing—not based on what I've seen of these types of devices anyway (these tablets with controller attachments).
There's a chance it could work if done right, and I mean if it's done RIGHT; and it's actually quite similar to one of my own ideas for NX in principle, although different enough from it at the same time, but I'm not convinced the particular solution you envision, as least based on your examples, is the way to go. Similarly, I'm not entirely convinced of my own idea anymore either:
http://www.inceptional.com/2015/06/26/heres-the-gist-of-my-idea-for-nintendos-nx/ (this is one of my ideas for what NX could be)
I guess we'll see. . . .
PS. The fact the Wikipad went basically completely unnoticed for the most part should probably tell us something. Sure, it didn't have Nintendo's name on it, but still. I think we might all be barking up the wrong tree—although I really have no clue at this point.
@Kirk "Or, at least, I personally hope it's not that kind of thing."
Yeah, I know. When I woke up this morning I thought, "Oh no, Kirk's worst nightmare is actually going to be true" in relation to the batarang. You were bugging out over the magnet tool in Zelda Wild. So I know it's not what you want, and seeing that Wikipad, man that's just a horrible eyesore, but it's where I'm currently at. I'm sort of fixated on the 2016 financial report saying "NX gaming platform" instead of just "NX" or "console".
But it will be something. And at some point we'll see it. But at this point I'd be shocked if it's simply a home console. And it certainly won't be "normal".
It sure would be nice to at least see what the dang thing looks like.
I get that they have to weather a holiday season with a lame duck console (take that however you want) and only thing to close it on a high note is going to get a better version on the successor.
@Kirk Read - ok skimmed - your inceptional idea, and I can't believe we've (we in general, not you and I) have been talking about this for an entire year now and we still don't even know what NX is, freaking Nintendo on the mountaintop.
I've thought long and hard about a 4DS w/ TV out, probably 2 or 3 years at least as Wii U has floundered, and I kind of always wanted Ntinedo to go that route, just jam the Wii U into the Gamepad and add the little wireless dongle like you said. (New 3DS should have had that.) Nintneod doesn't really need a home console anyway, they don't make home console games - big interactive movie stuff - and they don't get any AAA support on those types of games, so why bother?
My stumbling block was always couch multiplayer in MK and SSB. They're both on handhelds, so you don't really need a tv version, but how do you get 4, or 8, 4DS to share a tv screen? Only 1 can plug in at a time. How do those huge money tournaments work w/o a central device? So I think they at least need a dock, not a dongle, and that dock is a $199 NX Home console.
I also don't think NX handheld would be 1080p, more like 520p or whatever the Vita is, or whatever double the 3DS top screen is so you can easily port all of those games. Everybody calls me crazy, so you can too, but I think 720p would be the most a handheld would get. (The 7" Fire is 1024x600, so 600p, and it looks fine, my wife just got one, no complaints, and her old tablet was HD.) It would be the docking stations job to upscale to 1080p for TVs. Dock also takes the stereo sound from the handheld - no need for 5.1 on a handheld either - and plays 5.1 on the tv. I do hope you are correct about the multi-touch though, kills me using it as a web browser and other things, single touch doesn't work w/ people's brains in 2017, little kids will think it's broken if they can't zoom w/ 2 fingers. 3D is done though, 2DS saw to that. And VR in another 5 years if it doesn't flop for gaming.
So I did like your idea, I just haven't been able to make it work in my head over the past 2 years. Well that and I can't see Ntnedo admitting defeat and getting out of the home console market. 100 mil Wii sold may be emboldening them a bit, even if Wii U flopped. Though we could both be right, handheld has a TV dongle out for single player, 600p and stereo; $200 dock for 1080p and multiplayer and people who don't want to play on the go. My only concern w/ that is, not enough incentive to buy the dock, so the handheld only has tv out via the dock.
As for all your backwards compatible software stuff, well I didn't really understand some of it, and I think the NES Mini - and probably SNES Mini to come - means the VC stuff isn't happening.
Guess we'll see, 1 of us has to be at least half right I think. Someday.
@rjejr Yeah, I've been thinking about this kind of thing for a long time too, many years now. In fact, quite a few of those ideas I have for NX were actually ideas I had for Wii originally (and I don't mean Wii U; I mean Wii).
Nah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if an NX handheld was only at 720p. I was just suggesting what I thought would be a good number based on it being able to run Wii U games directly on the screen and whatever else. But, the Wii U screen isn't even 720p, and it runs Wii U games just fine, so I could totally see the resolution being lower than 1080p. If it were done right, I don't think it would seriously bother me, but I think sometimes it's just good to give people what they actually expect and want rather than what they can tolerate. lol
Shame you didn't really understand all the backwards compatible stuff, as that's a huge point of what makes the idea compelling. lol That and the entire creation suite thing.
@rjejr Yeah, I don't think it will be "normal". And my fear is just how not "normal". lol
@rjejr Generally I like your ideas and the magnet thing looking like the controller patent is pretty compelling. What gets me about it is if it is like the patent, when the NintyPad (lol) isn't in it you could hold it on one side like a Wii remote for Just Dance and Tennis style play. It would look odd, but work as something to grip. It also helps feel like you are pointing at something when using motion again (more than the GamePad) even when holding both ends in a more standard controller grip.
Plus, it works as a Mario Kart steering wheel without alteration, plus you could hold on to one end while a potential lover holds on to the other and it could compare heart-rates with the reader and give you a compatibility rating like those carnival toys. So that's a @kirk nightmare in the making, but it is versatile and fits rumors a bit.
It could be made to feel much cooler. I'd design it as double pistol grips. Like the nunchucks with much more grip comfort and area for buttons and sticks and triggers. Heck, you could even make the bottom of the U detachable, I always preferred the wii remote and nunchuck by my sides while playing to holding a controller in my lap.
Then for dual screen play you clamp it around your NintyPad.
My hang-up on all this is that I still just feel like an also-ran pad with all the same Nintendo games available on iPads and Android devices is missing something to be compelling on its own. Dedicated gaming controls along with the promise of Nintendo games that use them seems the obvious way to go there. But then, attaching it to the U-magneto-pad is potentially redundant.
Third parties would love the idea of 15 buttons, two control pads, and 4 analog sticks, a button for everything!
@aaronsullivan "plus you could hold on to one end while a potential lover holds on to the other"
Man, you are really pushing all my buttons there. The new double-ended NSFW Nintendo NX controller, w/ vibration and built in rechargeable batteries so you can give it ago whenever you want.
I need to go take a cold shower.
@aaronsullivan It really is going to be interesting to see what Nintendo ultimately comes out with, and I just hope it isn't totally disappointing. lol
I'll say this much, when everyone was speculating about the original Wii there were some pretty awesome ideas and designs floating around, including my own if I do say so*, and Nintendo still managed to knock it out the park (even if the console ultimately never lived up to its true full potential imo).
But, then again, the Wii U largely ended up falling short of many people's expectations and ultimately didn't really do anything particularly mind boggling either, even though a few games did eventually show off its true potential.
Me, I'm still totally clueless as to what NX is going to be at this point. lol
@rjejr lol
Hey, if it helps it sell more NX units. . . .
And, it kinda goes with Nintendo's own past of creating love hotels and love testers too.
@rjejr @kirk
Yeah, I knew I was getting into hot water with that one.
Uh... Nintendo... I'm pretty sure it goes; E3 2016 reveal, play test hype, new zelda reveal, THEN a release date. Why are you doing it backwards?
I thought the new Nintendo of Japan boss dumped this QOL garbage...
@rjejr i think because NX is both handheld and a console they are just referring to it as a unified platform.
I take it with the Switch on the Horizon, this "QOL" platform has finally been taken out to the pasture to lay waste...
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