We are part of the Smash Community by proxy, and by default. We play Smash, we discuss Smash, we're in.
Abuse can happen in any community. And I'm saying this while also being sorry for the victims of it. However, we shouldn't demonize the game we love just because someone playing it made a mistake (or several). Period.
@Travisemo007 Except for Nintendo themselves. Also, COVID-19 majorly f'd up any plans to meet with publishers for third-party reps, while Smash also had to limit the wait time for anyone who bought the then-completely-unknown FP2 out of good faith. There was no easy way out of this, and with the limitations in place I think Sakurai did an outstanding job.
Now, considering video calls kind of exist, more third party reps are kind of overdue.
@Jasonmd I think the Fire Emblem franchise has received way too much shilling already. I'm all for fantasy characters in Smash, but any FE character can - and should - wait. Especially considering Ultimate is shaping up to be a one-shot deal. We can make Byleth fight Corrin in any future Smash game. We might never be able to pit Mega Man against Snake again.
Here's a funny thing - even as The Last Of Us snatches an exceptionally rare first place for Sony in its homeland, the sass dimension managed to acknowledge the Switch's dominance. I'm as puzzled as you are.
Trine looks like loads of fun. Is it a platformer, right? I've heard good things about Trine.
Also, the Nintendo page seems to suggest we're getting all four games with the Ultimate Collection. I can't skip an entire series of games at 20 measly euros.
While a Pokémon MOBA might be a good thing in the long run, I think I see the exact problem here - and it's the same as it's ever been with Pokémon in the latter half of the franchise's lifespan so far.
Say it with me--communication.
Talking about it as the next "big project" means hyping it up to an unrealistic degree, while at least mentioning Game Freak wasn't behind it would have set the bar for fans. That's point one.
Point two is, well... it's one game - one - while the previous presentaton had several. Hell, fans might be wondering "THIS is what got all the attention while all New Pokémon Snap got was a passing mention?" (it wasn't meant to rhyme, by the way).
Communication is key. Always has been, always will be. It's a fact The Pokémon Company needs to accept. Also, quick note for everyone: when a stream (Nintendo Direct or otherwise) starts lingering too long on something, make sure to quickly (and accordingly) rearrange your expectations. I'm not talking about game-specific presentations (such as Sakurai's for Smash), I'm talking about general Directs (for example, a game is announced and most of the Direct's runtime goes to interviews with the developer and whatnot - which is what happened with Pokémon Presents Part II).
I can't wait for the advertising that keeps interrupting unrelated matches Byleth to be nerfed to kingdom come until he stops being an advertisement for Three Houses and actually fits the roster.
Super Mario Run, for what little it does - and for what little it asks in return - is the "next best thing" to an actual Mario game. Wasn't it for the always-online DRM, I'd recommend it to virtually everyone here.
I know that's setting a low bar here, but given we're not getting other news, unless the ARMS fighter goes the Bowser Jr./Hero/Inkling route the Miis are going to do the trick for me.
@graysoncharles Metroid Prime has become a sub-franchise in its own right. KH spinoffs are just a sneak peek at an overarching narrative that we still have to experience in its juiciest parts on Nintendo consoles.
@Late
At this rate, I doubt we'll get the HD Remixes at all.
Square Enix wants Nintendo fans' money, but at the same time Square Enix doesn't want to give Nintendo fans actual mainline KH entries, even if they just have to port them.
The fact everything is connected is also a consolation prize for everyone among us who doesn't want their... well, consolatory spinoff to feel useless. Not to mention consolation prizes are usually more annoying than the lack thereof.
@JuiceMan_V This comment perfectly incapsulates the limbo us Nintendo fans who love Kingdom Hearts (or vice versa) are living in and I'm framing it and putting it on my wall for posterity.
@Late I did play Theatrhythm. I did enjoy it. Doesn't change the fact that the 3DS, backwards compatibility aside, didn't get a single Final Fantasy game that wasn't a spinoff.
"Might be fun, but it's a spinoff" is the same argument that made Metroid Prime: Federation Force dead on arrival. Come to think of it, this might well be the Federation Force of Kingdom Hearts games.
Because of course,OF COURSE Nintendo had to get spinoffs first.
I'm... what's the word... oh yeah, livid.
Let me put it this way: Xbox started off with a mainline title. The remasters would run like a dream on Switch. But NO, we're the poor peasants of the Nintendo fandom! Of course we get nothing but #@%king BREADCRUMBS.
Now if you excuse me, I'll be in my room yelling at the wall.
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Re: Yacht Club Is Seeking A Gameplay Programmer For A New 3D Project
Easy does it, and small stages could work in Shovel Knight's favor.
Take Kirby's Blowout Blast for example. That was an absolute delight.
Re: Talking Point: What Do Abuse Scandals Say About The Smash Bros. Community, And Its Future?
We are part of the Smash Community by proxy, and by default. We play Smash, we discuss Smash, we're in.
Abuse can happen in any community. And I'm saying this while also being sorry for the victims of it. However, we shouldn't demonize the game we love just because someone playing it made a mistake (or several). Period.
Re: Captain America Takes A Break From The Avengers To Play Some Fortnite
I'll just stick to Deadpool, thank you very much.
Re: RPG Maker MV Gets A New Switch Release Date After Lengthy Delay
@boatie
Yume Nikki and Undertale say hi.
Re: You Can Now Play As Min Min In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@Travisemo007
Except for Nintendo themselves. Also, COVID-19 majorly f'd up any plans to meet with publishers for third-party reps, while Smash also had to limit the wait time for anyone who bought the then-completely-unknown FP2 out of good faith. There was no easy way out of this, and with the limitations in place I think Sakurai did an outstanding job.
Now, considering video calls kind of exist, more third party reps are kind of overdue.
Re: You Can Now Play As Min Min In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@blockfight
FP1 is worth it for Joker, Hero and Banjo alone. Terry is cool too.
Re: You Can Now Play As Min Min In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@Jasonmd
I think the Fire Emblem franchise has received way too much shilling already. I'm all for fantasy characters in Smash, but any FE character can - and should - wait. Especially considering Ultimate is shaping up to be a one-shot deal. We can make Byleth fight Corrin in any future Smash game. We might never be able to pit Mega Man against Snake again.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 8.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
So I guess Byleth is just gonna be a living advertisement for Three Houses interrupting Ultimate's gameplay for a few more months, huh.
That character's broken for the sake of shoving in everyone's faces how awesome Fire Emblem is.
Re: Nintendo Switch 'Save Data' Maintenance Scheduled Over Next Couple Of Days
What @rjejr said. The timing is pretty damn near terrible.
Waiting 24 more hours for Min Min is going to be hella fun.
Re: Free Smash Bros. Ultimate Spirit Board Challenge Pack Available To Switch Online Subscribers
Ten of each? Whoa, Nintendo is going above and beyond with the "value" NSO has to offer.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th June (Europe)
@Big_Fudge
The Nintendo Life community is not a catch-all statistic sample.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th June (Europe)
@Ewaldus
That's great to hear! It seems 4 is included in the package - in which case, it's a total steal. I'll have to make sure I have the cash tho.
Re: Japanese Charts: Nintendo Takes Nine Of Top Ten As The Last Of Us 2 Topples Animal Crossing
Here's a funny thing - even as The Last Of Us snatches an exceptionally rare first place for Sony in its homeland, the sass dimension managed to acknowledge the Switch's dominance. I'm as puzzled as you are.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th June (Europe)
Trine looks like loads of fun. Is it a platformer, right? I've heard good things about Trine.
Also, the Nintendo page seems to suggest we're getting all four games with the Ultimate Collection. I can't skip an entire series of games at 20 measly euros.
Re: Baby Wario Becomes A Qualified Doctor In Nintendo's Mobile Game Dr. Mario World
So let me get this straight. It took the Dr. Mario treatment for Baby Wario to finally get a 3D render?
Re: The Pokémon Unite Presentation Has Already Been Disliked 150,000 Times
@Xiovanni
CCP?
Re: The Pokémon Unite Presentation Has Already Been Disliked 150,000 Times
While a Pokémon MOBA might be a good thing in the long run, I think I see the exact problem here - and it's the same as it's ever been with Pokémon in the latter half of the franchise's lifespan so far.
Say it with me--communication.
Talking about it as the next "big project" means hyping it up to an unrealistic degree, while at least mentioning Game Freak wasn't behind it would have set the bar for fans. That's point one.
Point two is, well... it's one game - one - while the previous presentaton had several. Hell, fans might be wondering "THIS is what got all the attention while all New Pokémon Snap got was a passing mention?" (it wasn't meant to rhyme, by the way).
Communication is key. Always has been, always will be. It's a fact The Pokémon Company needs to accept. Also, quick note for everyone: when a stream (Nintendo Direct or otherwise) starts lingering too long on something, make sure to quickly (and accordingly) rearrange your expectations. I'm not talking about game-specific presentations (such as Sakurai's for Smash), I'm talking about general Directs (for example, a game is announced and most of the Direct's runtime goes to interviews with the developer and whatnot - which is what happened with Pokémon Presents Part II).
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield Trainers Reach Special Zeraora Max Raid Battle Goal
Is it catchable during at least some of the raids or not? Official sources have been coy about it.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 8.0.0 Will Arrive Within The Next Week
I can't wait for
the advertising that keeps interrupting unrelated matchesByleth to be nerfedto kingdom comeuntil he stops being an advertisement for Three Houses and actually fits the roster.Re: Reminder: "Big" Pokémon Project To Be Revealed In Pokémon Presents Livestream Tomorrow
Full Pokédex confirmed for the last SwSh update.
A man can dream.
Re: Square Enix Updates The Switch Version Of Final Fantasy VII To Version 1.0.2
@Fido007 @RupeeClock

Me, as a Kingdom Hearts fan:
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Fans Think They've Identified Masahiro Sakurai's Couch
@KingBowser
Mike Rotch
knows what you mean!
His Final Smash is a pelvic thrust.
Re: Nintendo To Cut Back On Mobile Games After Animal Crossing Success, Says Report
Super Mario Run, for what little it does - and for what little it asks in return - is the "next best thing" to an actual Mario game. Wasn't it for the always-online DRM, I'd recommend it to virtually everyone here.
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
I'm hyped for any crazy Mii Fighter costume.
I know that's setting a low bar here, but given we're not getting other news, unless the ARMS fighter goes the Bowser Jr./Hero/Inkling route the Miis are going to do the trick for me.
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@backup368
And yet, compare the Square content in Smash with Terry's fifty songs.
Re: Five Nights At Freddy's: Sister Location Surprise-Launches On Switch
Scott Cawthon's release schedule being... well, Scott Cawthon's release schedule, even on consoles.
Re: Yep, The New FIFA Game For Nintendo Switch Will Be Another Legacy Edition
"It's better than nothing."
(Mighty No. 9 trailer)
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Has Been Rated In Taiwan
After buying Spyro Reignited Trilogy on Xbox One, I'm NOT falling for the exact same trap again. Switch version or bust, Activision!
Re: Review: Pokémon Sword & Shield - The Isle of Armor - A New Wild Area Worthy Of Your Interest
@status-204
Galar doesn't take crud from any Pokémon originating in other regions it seems
Re: Japan Is Getting A Medabot Collection On Nintendo Switch
YOU HAD ME AT MEDABOTS AX.
THIS TOTALLY MAKES UP FOR KINGDOM HEARTS MELODY OF MEMORY YAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@TheFrenchiestFry
Now you get the point. I could settle with ports of 1 and 2 by now.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@graysoncharles
Metroid Prime has become a sub-franchise in its own right.
KH spinoffs are just a sneak peek at an overarching narrative that we still have to experience in its juiciest parts on Nintendo consoles.
Re: Hail To The King, Baby - Duke Nukem 3D Is Coming To Switch This Month
@SquallLeonhart86
Who the hell even is an alphabet person? Or WHAT is him or her, for that matter?
Re: Hail To The King, Baby - Duke Nukem 3D Is Coming To Switch This Month
Melody of Memory on one hand, this on the other.
Heh, you win some, you lose some.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@graysoncharles
In a way, Metroid fans got off easy.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@Eel
That's Squeenix's logic for ya.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@Late
At this rate, I doubt we'll get the HD Remixes at all.
Square Enix wants Nintendo fans' money, but at the same time Square Enix doesn't want to give Nintendo fans actual mainline KH entries, even if they just have to port them.
The fact everything is connected is also a consolation prize for everyone among us who doesn't want their... well, consolatory spinoff to feel useless. Not to mention consolation prizes are usually more annoying than the lack thereof.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@TheFrenchiestFry
Forgot about Re:coded, joke's on you.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@JuiceMan_V
This comment perfectly incapsulates the limbo us Nintendo fans who love Kingdom Hearts (or vice versa) are living in and I'm framing it and putting it on my wall for posterity.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
@Late
I did play Theatrhythm. I did enjoy it. Doesn't change the fact that the 3DS, backwards compatibility aside, didn't get a single Final Fantasy game that wasn't a spinoff.
"Might be fun, but it's a spinoff" is the same argument that made Metroid Prime: Federation Force dead on arrival. Come to think of it, this might well be the Federation Force of Kingdom Hearts games.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
Because of course, OF COURSE Nintendo had to get spinoffs first.
I'm... what's the word... oh yeah, livid.
Let me put it this way: Xbox started off with a mainline title.
The remasters would run like a dream on Switch. But NO, we're the poor peasants of the Nintendo fandom! Of course we get nothing but #@%king BREADCRUMBS.
Now if you excuse me, I'll be in my room yelling at the wall.
Re: Nintendo Just Launched A New Game And You Can Download It For Free Right Now
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here's the "right after this presentation" meant for the E3 Direct.
Re: Game Originally Planned For Wii U, Then Switch, Winds Up As A PS5 Timed-Exclusive
It's not quite a middle finger. More like a palm-inward V-sign, which apparently is a rude gesture only for Brits.
Doesn't make it that much less of a backstab though.
Re: 'Pokémon Presents' Live Presentation Teased For Tomorrow, 17th June
As annoying as meme templates can be:
Me: "Mom, I want Nintendo news for Smash"
Mom: "Don't worry dearie, we have Nintendo News at home:"
Nintendo News at home:
Re: Want A Complete LEGO Mario Set? Here's How Much Every Single Bundle Will Cost You
And here I thought the STAR WARS line was bad.
Re: People Keep Buying The Wrong Pokémon Sword And Shield DLC
The version-splitting needs to die already. Full stop.
Re: Fortnite Players Are Angry At Epic After Missing Out On The Season Finale
I've been trying to log in to pretty much no avail. I'd take those thousands of XP points now, Epic, if you don't mind.
Re: You Can Play Pokémon Sword And Shield's DLC Even If You Haven't Beat The Main Game
@graysoncharles
"All payers are welcome"
Fixed it more.
MIC DROP!
Re: Check Out This New Footage Of Free-To-Play Cross-Play Shooter Rogue Company
A third-person, free-to-play shooter from Epic Games.
Didn't we have one on Switch before?
Re: Talking Point: Six Burning Questions We'd Love Nintendo To Answer This Summer
Are we getting Kingdom Hearts on Switch and third-party reps in Smash Ultimate's Fighters Pass 2?
It's literally all I need.