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Rumour: 3DS Cartridge Could Allow Handheld to Function as Wii U Controller

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

A bucket of salt is needed for this one

We do love the occasional rumour here at Nintendo Life, and the latest has emerged from French website nintendo-master.com, courtesy of its very own unnamed source — we love that guy/gal, we really do. In any case, the rumour is that an old DS patent is going to be revived which will allow a cartridge and Circle Pad Pro to combine and enable a 3DS to function as a Wii U controller.

This isn't beyond the realms of possibility, of course, as the Learn With Pokémon: Typing Adventure DS cartridge apparently has a wireless device within the cartridge — probably Bluetooth — to communicate with the keyboard peripheral. It's possible, therefore, that a chip could be placed in a cartridge that links with a Wii U, allowing the inputs of the handheld to work in the same way as a Wii U Pro Controller.

While it's a fun idea, there are some reasons why this is doubtful. From a practical perspective, the gamer would have to own the cartridge and a Circle Pad Pro — which isn't even available for the XL model at the time of writing — a double expense; we'd also assume the 3DS would only work as a secondary controller (like the Pro), as streaming the GamePad content to a 3DS touchscreen seems like more effort than it's worth. In addition, we find it unlikely that Nintendo would willingly encourage anyone to not buy additional Wii U peripherals, but instead offer a 3DS option that would possibly confuse plenty of consumers — let's not forget, for example, that a number of people are still unsure of the basic difference between a Wii and Wii U.

An enjoyable rumour, definitely, and many scoffed at the tales of a Circle Pad Pro before it arrived in all of its chunky glory, but this one seems like a stretch. What do you think: is this likely, possible or a load of old nonsense?

[via pocketgamer.co.uk, nintendo-master.com]

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User Comments (59)

antdickensAdmin

#1

antdickens said:

Stranger things have happened - eg the Circle Pad Pro - but seems a rather silly concept to me!

EdJericho

#2

EdJericho said:

I can see this happening and honestly expected such an ordeal would occur back when the Wii U was revealed. In fact I see Nintendo even a few years from now making a 3DS XL Pro with the L2 R2 and 2nd Circle Pad built in the 3DS for such a reason and people won't have to deal with buying the attachment.

Mordresh

#3

Mordresh said:

There's not much added value I think, well not when it requires a special cartridge and Circle Pad Pro. On the flip side, interaction between the Wii U and 3DS would be a welcome thing, if thought out well.

Setrodox

#4

Setrodox said:

I would hope and expect some connectivity between the Wii U and 3DS, and if they go all the way and give it all of the functions of the Wii Gamepad, even better! The only problem is they've already said the Wii U can only handle a maximum of 2 gamepads, and I doubt connecting a 3DS would increase this limit. Unless their limit was conservative and only theoretical. Either way, I would expect some kind of connection between console and handleheld, which has existed in various degrees since SNES with Super Game Boy and perfected very well with the GCN & GBA on Final Fantasy CC and LoZ.

moisesmcardona

#7

moisesmcardona said:

It could be possible, but I doubt the 3ds processing power. Maybe if its true companies may release 3D-capable games only when using the 3DS as a controller. Also, quality may be an issue here since the image would be downscaled.

kyurem6298

#8

kyurem6298 said:

couldn't they have an update for the 3ds and wii u for the download play to make it work. they already have DS demos available for download on the wii so couldn't they do something like that

datamonkey

#9

datamonkey said:

Talking of circle pad pro for 3DS XL, when is the western release? I know Japan have had it a while now...

Zhanglot

#10

Zhanglot said:

I don't think this particular idea of 3DS acting a controller will work out, but I'm still positive that in the future, there will be games that have other methods of 3DS/WiiU connectivity.

SirQuincealot

#11

SirQuincealot said:

speaking of circle pads... when are we going to see a fight pad for the 3ds? i dont want smash bros to ruin my 3ds... smash bros seems like the game to do this 3ds as a controller thing

pntjr

#12

pntjr said:

Back in the day it was so much easier, too hook up GCN and GBA you only needed a Gameboy Player and a cord. That's it, there was no analog stick add-on sh1t.

Wonder_Ideal

#16

Wonder_Ideal said:

I have wondered to myself if the 3DS could be used as a less sophisticated GamePad. I'm doubtful as to whether Nintendo will release the add ons.

aaronsullivan

#17

aaronsullivan said:

Doesn't seem worthwhile. Better to just focus on sending a game developed for the 3DS to the handheld (or downloading or buying) to interact with the Wii U through wifi.

Now plugging in a 3DS cartridge reader into a USB port of the Wii U and playing 3DS games on the big and little screens I could get behind.

@pntjr not sure what your point is. To play games that supported GBA connectivity you didn't need a Gameboy Player just the cable, but that didn't mimic the functionality of a GameCube in any way like this proposal would and a GBA would need WAY more attachment buttons and joysticks to work like a GameCube controller. Also 3DS games would be able to interact through wifi alone with no attachments. I just don't get what you're trying to say.

rjejr

#18

rjejr said:

Coming from a company that made a game - FF:CC - that required 4 GBAs and 4 cables to play multiplayer - I wouldn't be surprised if they made a game that required a 3DS. Maybe it couldn't function as a full blown Gamepad but the 3DS can already do a lot of stuff - streaming Netflix, 1 cart LD play - so it shouldn't be too hard to make it work with the Wii U. And if it is too hard then they designed the Wii U wrong.

DrSlump

#19

DrSlump said:

Hummm... no, unless the cartidge will integrate a 5Ghz wireless streaming decoder. Maybe for some specific use...

Birthday_Boy

#20

Birthday_Boy said:

Nintendo is defenately working on something along the lines of this. But I don't believe it will be this.

DreamyViridi

#21

DreamyViridi said:

In general, I can't see this happening. If the cartridge came with a Wii U game made with the intention of using the 3DS with said game; possible.

DonnaxNL

#23

DonnaxNL said:

That's I want to see, specially for Smash Bros or Mario Kart. Local multiplayer with 2 gamepads and 2 3DS'. And maybe add also a wiimote/pro controller for first time playing Smash Bros with 5 players.

Ecto-1

#24

Ecto-1 said:

The only way I could see it even being possible to use a 3DS as a Wii U controller would be to have it act like a Wii Classic Controller. I don't see it being able to act as a GamePad or a Wii U Pro controller because it lacks those controller's clickable analog sticks. That is unless they release a new 3DS add-on that incorporates those.

StephenYap3

#26

StephenYap3 said:

Throw in a longer-lasting battery replacement for my 3DS and my money is yours, Nintendo.

gefflt

#27

gefflt said:

Extremely unlikely in my humble opinion. Nintendo has already announced that some future Wii U games would be playable using two (or more?) Wii U Gamepads, why would they give this (I'm guessing) super cheap alternative?

Dashtag

#28

Dashtag said:

That's why they're making a cartridge people... so it'll be compatible... think it through...

AVahne

#30

AVahne said:

Very well possible that they can do this. The GamePad doesn't do any processing,so the 3DS wouldn't need to anyway. The cart could carry the required radio needed to receive the latency free video feed from the Wi U. Even better, even with the dual screens, the resolution is much lower than the GamePad's, so the Wii U probably won't have to do too much work. They could also probably find a way to have the 3DS to do some co-processing to lessen work on the Wii U, at least with video processing.

Varia01

#32

Varia01 said:

I like that idea! The circle pad pro sounds a little pointless, but using a 3ds as a controller would be neat!

AugustusOxy

#35

AugustusOxy said:

I'd rather just have an app that allows me to play 3ds games on my Wii-u via wireless communications.

NintendoCat14

#38

NintendoCat14 said:

Why would you ever want this to happen. There's not even two Circle Pads or enough buttons. I'm not counting the Circle Pad Pro, of course.

GreenDream

#39

GreenDream said:

It might be possible that some cards could be swiped on the Upad. The cards would come bundled with a 3DS promo or game, i.e. the Kid Icarus cards in the game box, and in the November 2012 issue of Nintendo Power. The 3DS could scan certain coded images, which could also be swiped on the Upad. In this way, through a wireless connection, a 3D accompaniment to an onscreen Wii U program could be accomplished.

Sounds far-fetched, but Miyamoto seems to hint at this sort of idea...

GreenDream

#40

GreenDream said:

The Circle Pad Pro is an afterthought hunk of junk used to seal the deal for Monster Hunter 3DS exclusivity, to keep it away from Vita using market pressure. Every other game was gravy. Thus, allowing for diehard dual analog purists who don't want to move beyond the old PS2 controls to stay within their familiar trappings. They weren't bad- I played Monster Hunter on the PS2 for over 100 hours. Those controls could definitely be greatly improved using a touch screen and thumb stylus, though...

There's no point for a dual analog attachment on 3DS. Take Monster Hunter for example: Move = Circle Pad, Aim = Touch Screen using thumb stylus. Attack = L or R, Activate weapon ability/Reload = L or R. Choose/Use item = D-pad or ABXY, Choose/Equip weapon/ammo = D-pad or ABXY. Character emote list = SELECT, Inventory and Options menu = START. The options menu would allow the player to set which button set does what. That's all you need. No need for an extra circle pad, just supply a good thumb stylus with the game, and separately.

GreenDream

#42

GreenDream said:

As for a 3DS cartridge expanding it's hardware limitations, that reminds me of the GBA type cart which introduced an internet browser solution for the DS phat/ DS lite...

Ren

#43

Ren said:

cool, but then I'd have to buy a WiiU to play it with. I can already play all the good games without the WiiU add-on.

DarkNinja9

#44

DarkNinja9 said:

i say its possible not so much as needing a circle pad pro but at least being able to connect and use some funtions with the wii u

still waiting on miiverse for 3ds

skjia

#45

skjia said:

@swampertdude
Yeah that was my main thought as well.
Also I don't know if anyone realized that it's saying to play as a Wii U Pro Controller, not a GamePad. In other words the screen would not be used at all which, after buying all the necessary accessories, would probably be more that a Pro Controller. lol

WaLzgiStaff

#47

WaLzgi said:

Will not work. The 3DS does not have clickable analogs (as mentioned above). This rumor is total crap

grimbldoo

#48

grimbldoo said:

I've got a chair of salt and a bed of salt...I guess I could start building a desk of salt.

defrb

#49

defrb said:

Intresting, typical Nintendo, i think its true also :P
Stranger things has happened..

WaLzgiStaff

#51

WaLzgi said:

I can see this being true if the 3DS was used like a GBA on a Gamecube with specific games

edcomics

#53

edcomics said:

I think it's a cool idea. If the cartridge came with the Circle Pad Pro XL and some software, it would be a serious upgrade for the system. Of course, it would make more sense to just have people buy a second Gamepad, but the idea is fun. Of course, first we need games that support two gamepads.

On the topic of confusion over Wii vs Wii U, I can attest that a lot of people really don't understand the difference. I always thought the Wii U name was stupid, and it seems it really was a mistake. Anyone who doesn't read sites like this seem to think it's just another iteration of the Wii, like the DS to DSi upgrade. I know this is getting off-topic, but looking at the consoles from the NES to the Wii, I think Nintendo blew it with the design and marketing of the Wii U. I don't think it'll kill the system at all, but I think Nintendo hurt themselves by continuing in this Apple-inspired, minimalist theme they've been following, and the Wii U doesn't stand out as its own brand.

Phew. Sorry about that.

Stratostar

#54

Stratostar said:

It's simple: Package the cart with a CPP and a new Zelda: Four Swords-style game.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

Grodus

#56

Grodus said:

As long as the cartridge comes with a CCP, sure, seems slightly possible in a way... kinda. Of course, if you already have one, you can buy it separately.

technotreegrass

#58

technotreegrass said:

No way it could be used as a controller, but I wouldn't mind somehow playing my carts and eshop titles on my TV. When Pokemon Stadium came out, I spent more time playing Red and Blue on my TV then on my Game Boy.

Henmii

#59

Henmii said:

Interesting! It could be possible, though the 3DS won't stream whole Wii u games. That's just impossible!

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