My guess is that it has to to with how they handled review copies. All the review copies mailed out to different review sites and YouTubers included the starter pack with the game case and card removed presumably because they were later sent download codes. They must have done this to more shipments than they thought or maybe even mixed up batches and sent them to retailers.
Reviews are meant to be as objective as possible while the consumers opinions on a game are entirely subjective with a wide variety of caveats. A good review is meant to educate the consumer so that they can take their own personal tastes and preferences into account. Yooka Laylee is a perfect example of a game that could be very enjoyable given certain tastes and yet a much more mediocre experience without such tastes. A lot of people saw the metacritic score, dismissed it as a "Bad" game and left it at that. But reading several reviews of 6 or even 5, you can still tell that there is a lot to be enjoyed for fans of Banjo-Kazooie.
I love how this is a highly stylistic reimagining of the classic PS2 era Armored Core games (with some Zone Of the Enders 2 sprinkled in). To anyone curious about it's influences, take a look at Armored Core 3
@Averagewriter True. I mean it would certainly be awesome. I just don't see them doing it. Goes against Nintendo's "Make them rebuy everything." mentality. With our luck, they would give the Switch the ability to emulate 3DS games, then sell us digital only copies via eShop
@Averagewriter haha I thought about that too. As much as I'd love it, I don't think they could do it. Way too much work goes into porting a dual screen game to a single screen console. Maybe we'd get a series of best of 3DS ports, but never access to the full library
All right guys, to everyone saying drop the 3DS and support the Switch, do you really think that's not what they're going to eventually do? I think that in a year and a half, we'll see a handheld only Switch Mini. It will be a smaller, cheaper to make Switch, similar to the Slim line variants of other consoles. It will have emphasis on portability and be capable of playing all Switch games in portable mode. This will allow them to target the budget family gamer at $179.99. If there really is going to be a successor to the 3DS, it'll be this.
I really like how much more honest and real Bill Trinen explains this, as opposed to Reggie's "Look, here at Nintendo we value giving the consumer an unparalleled PR speak experience rather than using actual words to answer questions."
@Incognito_D Well if they learned anything from Nintendo, they might be doing this so they can sell us the non Sonic characters and tracks as DLC because they know we'll buy it
Ahhhhhh omg omg OMG!! I LOVED Racing Transformed!! Only Kart Racer I like more than Mario Kart 8 and Double Dash! Can't wait for more news on this! Switch exclusive??
Let's see.. An N64 Classic would have Mario 64, F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, Mario Party 2, Mario Kart 64, Pilot Wings 64, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Kirby 64, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros., and with any luck, Donkey Kong 64 and Diddy Kong Racing. Can you really say no to that?
Phew, OK. So many things to comment. First off, woooooo! Night In The Woods won a BAFTA!! Very happy with how well Hellblade did. It deserves all the praise and recognition it can get, which is apparently a lot. Also, just a little miffed that Xenoblade 2 didn't qualify for this as it surely deserved at least a nomination for best music. And finally I just find it funny that they have a category for best British game.
This will be a great curl up with a blanket and hot cocoa game (Which I've been doing with Thimbleweed Park. Handheld mode ftw) I strongly recommend this for anyone needing a break from regular games and is looking for a mellow adventure with a lot of charm that explores some heavy themes. Kinda like sad animal Persona lol
@kyleforrester87 Wow. Welcome aboard Kyle! Never thought I'd see you here lol. Hmm. I say physical. It's a bigger release and will take up more storage if you go digitally. Plus it's got lovely box art that will look nice in a collection! As for me, I'm a sucker for hundred page, hardbound art books so I got the Special Edition while it was on sale
Obviously this is referring to the tagline Become Legend from Destiny and Grezzo is handling the port of Destiny 2 over to Switch.... But really a Skyward Sword remake on Switch with improved controls and design tweaks would be greatly welcomed.
@Luffymcduck It wasn't officially announced as SMT V then so we didn't actually know what it was going to be other than a part of SMT. It could have been a remake or side game.
@ottospooky It is but at the time we didn't know what that was going to be. It's nice to get confirmation that it's the next entry in the series and not a remake or side game.
@retro_player_22 @Menchi187 Guy's let's play the wait and see game on this one. Persona and SMT have different things to offer to different people. It's all personal taste. That being said, Apocalypse shows that they're definitely experimenting with making the main series appeal a bit more towards Persona fans so this should be interesting to see what they do with V. Just enjoy it
This is fantastic news since it confirms that the mainline SMT series is still doing well and supporting Nintendo. It's also worth noting that this is the first time we'll be able to play a main entry in the series on home console since SMT Nocturne on PS2 all the way back in 2003! If this is indeed exclusive for Switch, I'm worried that they'll be missing an opportunity to intrigue the Persona fan base that they've grown after Persona 5.
Speaking of which, if anyone is interested in getting into the series, there are other options besides the obvious SMT IV. Apocalypse, although a direct sequel, has a bit more of a Persona tone to it and fixes a lot of problems with the original and does a good enough job filling in first time players of the original's story.
Devil Survivor Overclocked on 3DS, although technically a SRPG, does a great job introducing the main series mechanics like Demon Fusion, moral choices, and multiple routes based on your alignment, while blending the darker and more urgent tone of SMT with a group of friends you will get to know and trust (or not trust)
And finally, if you have a PS3 lying around, there's always the Digital Devil Saga on PSN. This forgoes Demon Fusion for a more traditional JRPG take on the series with a great story, cast of characters, and one of the strongest versions of the combat system to date! If anyone is interested in getting into this series and has any questions, please let me know. I'd be happy to help.
@Kingrat That is all true and I think Sonic Team has the same thought as you but the sonic formula takes a lot more than that short checklist to make it work. Modern Sonic, especially lately, is extremely stop and go, which breaks the flow of the game. Why are there so many 2D sections in a modern style Sonic game? The physics aren't designed around it so it's essentially just Classic style gameplay done worse. Why is there such a strong focus on combat and taking out lines of enemies? This is executed much better in the two Freedom Planet games because again, their game is actually designed around these aspects while Sonic is not. Sonic is about momentum, light platforming, and light level exploration to discover secrets and the quickest and most rewarding routes. It is not about rings, badnicks, speed boosters, and loops.
@SDF Of course your solutions are fine for those that want to spend the money on additional items. My points are made solely for people who already own or only have enough money for a Switch and could be getting more value out of it with these services. And sure a tablet would be fine for these things but then it wouldn't be playing Switch games would it? So why not a Switch that can do both and save me the money?
For those of you who prefer your Switch for games and say everything else can be done on smartphones: 1. The Switch screen is larger than a smartphone display and is more in line with a tablet's. 2. Built in kickstand in the back for easy viewing. (I hate trying to hold or prop up my phone when I want to watch something and eat at the same time) 3. By using the Switch instead, you won't have to worry as much about draining your phone battery, allowing you to multitask while streaming much more easily. 4. Lastly, for parents this means you now have a portable device your children can use to watch YouTube videos, Disney movies, and other kid friendly shows with that can either be watched on a TV or separated, allowing adults to use the main TV similarly to the Wii U
This just happened in America on Saturday with Best Buy. They cancelled hundreds of pre-orders then the next day, announced that they would have units to purchase in store on launch day without a pre-order
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Re: Starlink: Battle For Atlas Starter Packages In The US Are Missing Game Cards And Cases
My guess is that it has to to with how they handled review copies. All the review copies mailed out to different review sites and YouTubers included the starter pack with the game case and card removed presumably because they were later sent download codes. They must have done this to more shipments than they thought or maybe even mixed up batches and sent them to retailers.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 13th)
@nofriendo Dandara is great! Going back to finish it after I get the true ending in Hollow Knight....and after I recover from Golden Country lol
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 13th)
I just finished Xenoblade 2 The Golden Country. Soooo..... Probably just gonna lay down and cry for a few days
Re: Starlink: Battle For Atlas Physical Release Will Require A 6GB Day One Update
@Octane I don't know what's going on with the pricing in Europe but I would recommend buying it off the US eShop for $59.99 for the digital version
Re: Capcom Announces Mega Man Live-Action Hollywood Film
The Booed Bomber?
Re: Soapbox: Why Do We Want More Games When We've Already Got Too Many?
To drown out the cries of existential dread? And sometimes also because there's a sale
Re: Talking Point: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
Reviews are meant to be as objective as possible while the consumers opinions on a game are entirely subjective with a wide variety of caveats. A good review is meant to educate the consumer so that they can take their own personal tastes and preferences into account. Yooka Laylee is a perfect example of a game that could be very enjoyable given certain tastes and yet a much more mediocre experience without such tastes. A lot of people saw the metacritic score, dismissed it as a "Bad" game and left it at that. But reading several reviews of 6 or even 5, you can still tell that there is a lot to be enjoyed for fans of Banjo-Kazooie.
Re: Bushido Brawler Samurai Gunn 2 Ready For An eShop Release Early Next Year
Nope. No thank you
Re: Video: Mech Your Day With This New DAEMON X MACHINA Gamescom Footage
I love how this is a highly stylistic reimagining of the classic PS2 era Armored Core games (with some Zone Of the Enders 2 sprinkled in). To anyone curious about it's influences, take a look at Armored Core 3
Re: Review: Salt and Sanctuary (Switch eShop)
I'm surprised no comparisons to Hollow Knight were made
Re: Hollow Knight: Gods & Glory Arrives On Switch August 23rd
Absolutely fantastic game. Dropped Mario Tennis Aces for this and haven't looked back
Re: Dragon: Marked for Death By Inti Creates Arrives Exclusively On Switch This Winter
Ummm what?
Re: A Free Demo Of WarioWare Gold Is Available To Download Right Now
@Averagewriter True. I mean it would certainly be awesome. I just don't see them doing it. Goes against Nintendo's "Make them rebuy everything." mentality. With our luck, they would give the Switch the ability to emulate 3DS games, then sell us digital only copies via eShop
Re: A Free Demo Of WarioWare Gold Is Available To Download Right Now
@Averagewriter haha I thought about that too. As much as I'd love it, I don't think they could do it. Way too much work goes into porting a dual screen game to a single screen console. Maybe we'd get a series of best of 3DS ports, but never access to the full library
Re: A Free Demo Of WarioWare Gold Is Available To Download Right Now
All right guys, to everyone saying drop the 3DS and support the Switch, do you really think that's not what they're going to eventually do? I think that in a year and a half, we'll see a handheld only Switch Mini. It will be a smaller, cheaper to make Switch, similar to the Slim line variants of other consoles. It will have emphasis on portability and be capable of playing all Switch games in portable mode. This will allow them to target the budget family gamer at $179.99. If there really is going to be a successor to the 3DS, it'll be this.
Re: Yoshi For Nintendo Switch "Making Really Good Progress" Despite E3 No-Show
I really like how much more honest and real Bill Trinen explains this, as opposed to Reggie's "Look, here at Nintendo we value giving the consumer an unparalleled PR speak experience rather than using actual words to answer questions."
Re: Random: Yoshi Gets Cut From The German Box Art For Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
At least we all get more of those sexy Marth legs!
Re: Capcom Could Release More Cloud-Based Games On Nintendo Switch
"using a unique rental system where players pay for game time."
You mean exactly like PlayStation Now?
Re: Blow Bubble Gum And Do Battle With The Cartoon Combat Of Ninjala
Baby Metal!!
Re: Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Nintendo Switch
Yasssssss!! I'm going to pee on ALL the trees!!
Re: Walmart Leak Reveals Team Sonic Racing Before It Leaves The Garage
@Incognito_D Well if they learned anything from Nintendo, they might be doing this so they can sell us the non Sonic characters and tracks as DLC because they know we'll buy it
Re: Walmart Leak Reveals Team Sonic Racing Before It Leaves The Garage
Ahhhhhh omg omg OMG!! I LOVED Racing Transformed!! Only Kart Racer I like more than Mario Kart 8 and Double Dash! Can't wait for more news on this! Switch exclusive??
Re: Random: Childish Gambino Sampled Donkey Kong Country And David Wise Definitely Approves
Ah yes, sampling. When you want to write a song but aren't sure how to do the actual music part. Lol
Re: Soapbox: Why A Nintendo 64 Classic Edition Might Not Be Such A Good Idea
Let's see.. An N64 Classic would have Mario 64, F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, Mario Party 2, Mario Kart 64, Pilot Wings 64, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Kirby 64, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros., and with any luck, Donkey Kong 64 and Diddy Kong Racing. Can you really say no to that?
Re: Exclusive: Take A Closer Look At Pokémon-Inspired Kickstarter Success, Monster Crown
@ShadJV That's so cool! Thanks for the info
Re: Exclusive: Take A Closer Look At Pokémon-Inspired Kickstarter Success, Monster Crown
Ummm that's not Pokémon Breeding, That's SMT Demon Fusion... I'm in
Re: Super Famicom Megami Tensei Spin-Off Last Bible III Gets Translated Into English
Slow news day huh? Glad to see this regardless. More MegaTen is always good
Re: Zelda: Breath of the Wild And Super Mario Odyssey Win Big At BAFTA Games Awards
Phew, OK. So many things to comment. First off, woooooo! Night In The Woods won a BAFTA!! Very happy with how well Hellblade did. It deserves all the praise and recognition it can get, which is apparently a lot. Also, just a little miffed that Xenoblade 2 didn't qualify for this as it surely deserved at least a nomination for best music. And finally I just find it funny that they have a category for best British game.
Re: Review: OPUS: Rocket of Whispers (Switch eShop)
Do I need to play the first game to enjoy the story of this game?
Re: The Anthropomorphic Mystery Of Night In The Woods Arrives On Switch This Feb
This will be a great curl up with a blanket and hot cocoa game (Which I've been doing with Thimbleweed Park. Handheld mode ftw) I strongly recommend this for anyone needing a break from regular games and is looking for a mellow adventure with a lot of charm that explores some heavy themes. Kinda like sad animal Persona lol
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Switch)
@kyleforrester87 Wow. Welcome aboard Kyle! Never thought I'd see you here lol.
Hmm. I say physical. It's a bigger release and will take up more storage if you go digitally. Plus it's got lovely box art that will look nice in a collection! As for me, I'm a sucker for hundred page, hardbound art books so I got the Special Edition while it was on sale
Re: Grezzo Is Hiring Programmers to Help Make a “Legend”
Obviously this is referring to the tagline Become Legend from Destiny and Grezzo is handling the port of Destiny 2 over to Switch....
But really a Skyward Sword remake on Switch with improved controls and design tweaks would be greatly welcomed.
Re: Existential Adventure Night In The Woods Could Be Coming To The Switch
Greg rulez ok
Re: Nintendo Switch v4.0.0 Update Brought Surprise GameCube Controller Adapter Support
Aww was hoping to get mentioned for tipping twice in one day lol. So excited for this! Extra controllers for Mario Kart!
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V is Coming to the Nintendo Switch
@Luffymcduck It wasn't officially announced as SMT V then so we didn't actually know what it was going to be other than a part of SMT. It could have been a remake or side game.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V is Coming to the Nintendo Switch
@ottospooky It is but at the time we didn't know what that was going to be. It's nice to get confirmation that it's the next entry in the series and not a remake or side game.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V is Coming to the Nintendo Switch
@retro_player_22 @Menchi187 Guy's let's play the wait and see game on this one. Persona and SMT have different things to offer to different people. It's all personal taste. That being said, Apocalypse shows that they're definitely experimenting with making the main series appeal a bit more towards Persona fans so this should be interesting to see what they do with V. Just enjoy it
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V is Coming to the Nintendo Switch
This is fantastic news since it confirms that the mainline SMT series is still doing well and supporting Nintendo. It's also worth noting that this is the first time we'll be able to play a main entry in the series on home console since SMT Nocturne on PS2 all the way back in 2003! If this is indeed exclusive for Switch, I'm worried that they'll be missing an opportunity to intrigue the Persona fan base that they've grown after Persona 5.
Speaking of which, if anyone is interested in getting into the series, there are other options besides the obvious SMT IV. Apocalypse, although a direct sequel, has a bit more of a Persona tone to it and fixes a lot of problems with the original and does a good enough job filling in first time players of the original's story.
Devil Survivor Overclocked on 3DS, although technically a SRPG, does a great job introducing the main series mechanics like Demon Fusion, moral choices, and multiple routes based on your alignment, while blending the darker and more urgent tone of SMT with a group of friends you will get to know and trust (or not trust)
And finally, if you have a PS3 lying around, there's always the Digital Devil Saga on PSN. This forgoes Demon Fusion for a more traditional JRPG take on the series with a great story, cast of characters, and one of the strongest versions of the combat system to date! If anyone is interested in getting into this series and has any questions, please let me know. I'd be happy to help.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V is Coming to the Nintendo Switch
I'm so excited!!!
Re: "Rental Avatar" Feature Shown Off in New Sonic Forces Footage
@Kingrat That is all true and I think Sonic Team has the same thought as you but the sonic formula takes a lot more than that short checklist to make it work. Modern Sonic, especially lately, is extremely stop and go, which breaks the flow of the game. Why are there so many 2D sections in a modern style Sonic game? The physics aren't designed around it so it's essentially just Classic style gameplay done worse. Why is there such a strong focus on combat and taking out lines of enemies? This is executed much better in the two Freedom Planet games because again, their game is actually designed around these aspects while Sonic is not. Sonic is about momentum, light platforming, and light level exploration to discover secrets and the quickest and most rewarding routes. It is not about rings, badnicks, speed boosters, and loops.
Re: "Rental Avatar" Feature Shown Off in New Sonic Forces Footage
Is this even a Sonic game anymore? Modern Sonic entries are so confusing.
Re: Review: Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Switch)
But do people die when they are killed?
Re: NicoNico Launches on the Switch in Japan This Week
@SDF Of course your solutions are fine for those that want to spend the money on additional items. My points are made solely for people who already own or only have enough money for a Switch and could be getting more value out of it with these services. And sure a tablet would be fine for these things but then it wouldn't be playing Switch games would it? So why not a Switch that can do both and save me the money?
Re: NicoNico Launches on the Switch in Japan This Week
For those of you who prefer your Switch for games and say everything else can be done on smartphones:
1. The Switch screen is larger than a smartphone display and is more in line with a tablet's.
2. Built in kickstand in the back for easy viewing. (I hate trying to hold or prop up my phone when I want to watch something and eat at the same time)
3. By using the Switch instead, you won't have to worry as much about draining your phone battery, allowing you to multitask while streaming much more easily.
4. Lastly, for parents this means you now have a portable device your children can use to watch YouTube videos, Disney movies, and other kid friendly shows with that can either be watched on a TV or separated, allowing adults to use the main TV similarly to the Wii U
Re: Nihon Falcom President Would "Definitely" Like to Release Games on Nintendo Switch
Trails of Cold Steel trilogy on Switch please
Re: Feature: Castlevania Season 1 Review: Plenty Of Blood, Bad Language And Bite
Can we get a mature adaptation of Suikoden II next please?
Re: Deals: Be Quick And Grab The New Metroid And Super Mario Odyssey amiibo
That Bowser Amiibo looks like he's trying to make you an offer you can't refuse...
Re: Poll: How Do You Play the Nintendo Switch - As A Portable, Home Console or Hybrid?
@Joeynator3000 Have you tried looking outside C137?
Re: UK Retailer GAME Is Cancelling Nintendo Switch Preorders Days Before Launch
This just happened in America on Saturday with Best Buy. They cancelled hundreds of pre-orders then the next day, announced that they would have units to purchase in store on launch day without a pre-order
Re: Feature: It's Time to Vote for Your Nintendo Life Overall Game of the Year
Sun and Moon, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, Axiom Verge.