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My problem is if they would have just released a console at the same price they asked for the switch 2 it wouldn’t have had the graphics sacrifices a portable has to have. I never play my switch undocked so I am being asked to play the next 8 years with graphics less than ideal. I feel like I’m subsidizing portable players.

I hope no one here is getting excited for a Nintendo direct. You should just be worried about spending the next part of your life mainning donkey Kong.

Went from the best launch games in history to of its just Mario kart.

The writer of this article must have loved the Wii U and N64 days.

@Johnny44 this thing runs at 1080p. I think you should temper your expectations.

@chriswashere313 you pay full price for Mario golf to subsidize zelda development and thefts a good thing

Just remember games are a product… and that’s a good thing!

I can’t stop myself from buying games like this. This was my childhood and the fact that it’s easily playable without an emulator is a quick sale.

@GrailUK that’s on you for having your emotions swayed because someone else points out a flaw. Everything isn’t rainbows.

@Suketoudara Nintendo wouldn’t give them a console and a game to look over so they were just making educated guesses based on the same videos we all got. And they made that clearly known. It’s on Nintendo for hiding their hardware and software to these media outlets.

You know if there was a tv only switch we would be able save things considerably cheaper on a hard drive.

@hammers1man I think they should have went with a 6.2 720p OLED and then released a 1080p XL later.

So many comments in here that people didn’t even notice the screen because they only play docked. Seems to me a tv only model should have been a version.

Love this site. When digital foundry says anything nice Nintendo fans are like these guys are experts. When they’re fair and critical…. These guys are hacks!!! Complete objectivity at its finest.

What I like about stories like this is that this is considered a success over three platforms for a game routinely on deep sales where the publisher has to give the console a 30% cut meanwhile mario kart 8 sells 77 million and I’m supposed to think poor Nintendo has to raise their prices $10 because of inflation.

@TwinFami well maybe that’s the only real option. If you live in the real world please understand the word inflation. Nintendo just used it to sell you a 1440p Mario kart world and soon a 1080p donkey Kong at record prices because of inflation. Yet we defended that so I don’t know why buying a tv is the limit.

I want to see 4k donkey Kong. I guess I’ll be disappointed.

@Polvasti hey I maybe deaf but I couldn’t hear the Margot boobs jokes. Plus I am giving this man the benefit of the doubt. I find it’s only white Christian American males whom are still sexist. What do I know.

Also Asian culture has always been female empowerment. That’s why they have so much cos play, anime and chun Li dressed traditionally. But I’ve only been to Shanghai, Tokyo, and Taiwan so maybe that doesn’t represent everyone.

It’s ok. Although it says 4k on the box. That’s for switch 1 games. How is it Mario kart world is only 1440p and donkey Kong bananza is 1080p.

@Polvasti maybe it wasn’t sexism. Maybe he was supporting the women’s empowerment movement clothing choices versus the puritan hypocrites. I dunno.

I thought people told me this is why you buy a switch over a steam deck. It’s simple and already set up. What convoluted trash.

@DaGoldenBoo they only believed in customer service when they ere faced with a class action lawsuit. Here we are again hoping, pretending, lying to ourselves that Nintendo is any different than any other company.

Well it’s a day of reckoning. For the first time nintendo fans being honest. Thank you universe.

@CJD87 speaking of open world. I know that’s the route nintendo is likely to take to sell us a 70 game. But I’m all honesty a 50 on rail shooter would be a welcomed change. Everything does not need to be an open world.

@AllBLK PlayStation fans also thought Xbox had no games until they started to be the best sellers on their own platform.

I thought Nintendo fans thought these other companies made boring games so there was nothing to play on other systems.

I also thought Nintendo fans thought open worlds were boring. That dlc shouldn’t be paid. That internet play should be actually free.

About a month ago people or media was telling us this was one of the best console games launches ever. Here we are after a week disappointed.

This was never going to top BOTW.

And I wasn’t going to be better than SNES Mario world, Fzero, pilotwings, sim city.

@DTfearTheBEARD thank you

@DTfearTheBEARD is the local wireless lan connection better on switch 2??????

Can someone please tell me if the local wireless connection is better on the switch 2 than the OG switch. In our lan room of OG switches the systems docks literally have to be touching each other to limit disconnects.

@SirLink yes it is the users fault. They are all wreckless.

@Gorlock if they wanted to they could have sold just the screen part of the unit alone and og switch owners could have used their previous joy cons. Saved some bucks. But the magnets are better. And the old joy cons had no mouse support. Neither of those things matter to me though and would have been happier with a cheaper unit.

@ThisisJosh yes but early adopters are always willing to pay high prices. There’s no guarantee the casuals which came in during covid and animal crossing will. And that was the difference between being a successful console generation and being the highest sold generation.

@SirLink they could have sold a hybrid model and a tv only model and met both markets at different price points. That’s an easy solution.

@SirLink yes but switch 2 comparatively isn’t cheap.

I’m also a bit skeptical of these sales numbers. In Toronto there is a lot of consoles on marketplace for a meager $25 profit. Seems like a lot of people bought them to flip them but no one wants to pay even more money. Maybe the other people bought them because ps4 and Xbox launches were so bad they were concerned it’s now or never. But I’m concerned about the long term viability of this price and yes I understand inflation. But not everyone buying a Nintendo console is buying it to play portable. Some people just want to play Nintendo games. Will those people pay a premium for a feature they won’t actually use. I won’t.

@Dee123 PlayStation doesn’t have any games. I’m not sure how to stay positive about that. Xbox is basically abandoning its hardware. I’m not sure how to stay positive about that. Nintendo is back to being a leader which means we’re back to aggressive Nintendo practices which will cost the consumer more. I’m not sure how to be positive about that.

Triple a games take too long and cost too much to make across the board and it’s hurting the industry. Further we can see that console adoption is becoming an older person thing while kids skip on consoles and use their phones. I’m sure that’s hard to deal with as well.

Finally games graphics have basically slowed down in how much each generation actually leaps over the previous generation. And game design really hasn’t changed much since ps3 days even with the increased power. So there’s stagnation and every year that stagnation becomes more apparent.

I honestly think for some people if you are at all critical or objective it is heard as being negative. Perhaps people come to video games to escape reality so they don’t want their vibe killed. Yet it seems people like honest movie reviews, music reviews, sports takes. So I’m not completely sure. Maybe consoles produce fans and fans have a harder time accepting their item isn’t perfect. Nothing is perfect.

@Spaceman44 what are you talking about. On Nintendo you can screen watch and see your friends face when you kill then. All at 10fps.

@8bitKirby it’s better for companies because they don’t need to print anything. It saves them money.

I don’t know how you can know that I had five switches and think all I do is complain. Clearly I liked the system to buy it five separate times. That doesn’t mean I don’t have my limits. And as an owner and supporter since 85 I may have some entitlement issues. For sure I supported this company my fair share. I simply don’t like the pricing direction of this system. That isn’t a crime.

@Ganner been here since 85. People still defending their companies to the death even if it affects them in the process.

@RiasGremory it’s not fine for people who only play docked. This system is $50 more than the digital version of the ps5. If Nintendo is actually consumer friendly they should have a cheaper tv option. The fact that they don’t is for their own profits. It’s anti consumer and it’s as bad as anything PlayStation or Xbox has done to make money. In fact because Nintendo has positioned itself as a family company I think it’s more egregious.

@Edu23XWiiU if Nintendo had gone third party we all would have been enjoying botw in 4k 60fps a long time ago. We wouldnt have 1-2 switch and Mario party with motion controls. But Mario would have worked. Donkey Kong tropical freeze would have worked. Mario kart would have worked. Pokémon would have liked better. I care about the experience not which box I load up so for me as a docked player I would have liked that.

@axelhander well I’ve never heard of an Xbox fan or PlayStation fan licking the disks to find out what they taste like.

@8bitKirby physical media is a bad thing to companie.

@electrolite77 my only hope is that switch lite bombed so they change their strategy this time for the lower end market. But they’re so heavily Japanese focused to a fault I can’t see them thinking tv gaming is a thing.

@Ogbert it’s semantics and it’s part of marketing. Give me a few minutes and I can think of Nintendos revisionist history as well. I don’t exactly see Nintendo marketing their love hotels history.

These are companies. We all need to accept them as such. They have one goal. To make as much money as possible. And here we are as the consumers trying to make ourselves feel better that our company isn’t as bad as so and so. They’re all not great.

@8bitKirby this will be your last generation then. Even Nintendo is doing their part to kill physical games. Digital Kirby from 2030 forward.

@Ogbert great. Nintendo and its fans at one point thought they would never have paid online. Here it is. They thought there wasn’t going to be dlc. Here it is. That games would stay at certain prices yet here’s MKW. Microsoft is of course going to PR paint themselves as the good guys. But Nintendo has painted themselves as our family yet at the same time slowly moving everything to being more expensive. The reality is that whatever company is behind offers the best deals to win people over. Once inside they rip you off.

@electrolite77 this is all I’m asking. Switch 2 in Canada is 629 or 699. While a Xbox series X is 679.

So switch 2 is cheaper? But no where near as powerful. Add in a switch pro controller if you don’t have any and it’s more than a series X.

If you’re never going to play handheld that is a large pill to swallow.

There could be a Porsche in the garage and I could still think it’s too expensive for what I’m using it for.

@HugoGED games evolution has grinder to a halt on all systems so I am not sure I am buying what you are selling. These systems do need more power to run open world games but I question if that’s needed. We need a new system because that’s how Nintendo keeps players engaged and keeps making money. We will look back in five years and then we can question how much evolution truly took place.

Maybe mouse support will be a big thing. I’m a bit confused why that’s so important to nintendo when they expect half the time their users will be playing portable.

@Truegamer79 they are the king even if they are stubborn. Dual analogues was the right choice and it took a while to get there. Some choices also didn’t have the longevity such as motion control. And they are absolutely last to the online scene which if you didn’t notice is a big scene. They passed on mindcraft so they are capable of making mistakes but they aren’t as dumb as Xbox which thought it bought the dk franchise.

@cvrator I love Nintendo games. I don’t want to get into this nonsense. I have owned every Nintendo since 1985. I have owned a donkey Kong arcade cabinet. I grew up with Mario wallpaper and Zelda bed sheets. I memorized issues of Nintendo power. Won video game tournaments. Nintendo games are of course good games. I don’t know what reality you think I made up. I am a docked player. Almost exclusively. It is my preference. As a result I have no use for paying almost twice as much for a system then it should be just because it’s portable. By the way I had 5 Nintendo switches for a lan party room. But I personally am out at this price. I’m also annoyed that all of a sudden graphics seemingly matter to Nintendo fans. If graphics don’t matter than we didn’t need a new system because that’s literally what this system does. Prettier graphics. We could have had these graphics a while ago if the switch one wasn’t a hybrid. But what do I know. You’re the true fan.