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@Pipulitoch I didn’t expect a new game but I thought maybe more than a port. Galaxy more like the Metroid prime remastered version. But that would take work. This was essentially a port that they get to sell you a book for. You don’t need to take business in uni. Just follow Nintendo long enough and you can figure this all out in your daily life.

Now we know why aces didn’t get a free upgrade. Don’t free upgrade any of the old games like yoshi if you’re about to release a new game in the series. Genius.

I’m a graphics whore so is this 4k 60fps on switch 2?

@tourjeff got us to buy it twice.

@Darthmoogle that’s insane. All that happened is people complained in their own echo chamber. Did anyone call the company and personally talk to someone. That is literally the only way these companies figure out what customers want. Surely they couldn’t use ai to search the comments and read the room.

So what you’re telling me is that 60fps is only for switch 2. But also on other threads 60fps doesn’t matter. So essentially there’s no reason to own a switch 2.

@AussieMcBucket both Yoshi and showtime played like garbage and both would be easy to add dlc to. Definitely wonder

@AussieMcBucket super Mario wonder paid dlc and upgrade is a given.

Princess peach showtime paid DLC and upgrade.

Yoshi crafted world paid dlc and upgrade.

Paper Mario 60fps boost paid because there’s suckers.

@AussieMcBucket definitely getting more paid upgrades hidden behind dlc. The real question is will there be free upgrades. I’m guessing no Nintendo selects. No free upgrades. We want your monies. All of it till you’re living on the street where the portability comes in real handy.

We can finally get more paid 1440p switch one upgrades. My wallet is ready.

@electrolite77 no worries sir. I’ll speak for myself. But you represent yourself as well. Neither of us are approaching these discussions exactly with a petition on us. That said if I read the room correctly there are more than a few negative nellys just as there are a few “good enoughers”

@DashKappei in 1982 I had a black and white tv. In 85 my first nes was on that black and white tv. Perhaps we should really be anti graphics snob and go back to the good old days of just fun. Hey the og game boy was black and white. It can be retro.

Btw 30fps is the exact opposite of a smoother experience.

@Cyberbotv2 it’s better that is an uncapped frame rate. That means when switch 3 is here it will stable it out to 60fps. I wish all switch one games were uncapped. Now we’re playing locked 30fps switch one games on switch 2. Think of the long game. That’s what we have to do.

@Runex2121 I hate to break it to you but most sports game iterate on each other so I wouldn’t expect massive gains. That said you think madden is great on switch so this might be up your alley. I wish I would have realized how iterative this hybrid was before I bought it. Mistakes were made.

@JayJ don’t worry. We will have to just buy the best model tv to compensate for the actual hybrid we’re supposed to love. Let me trade in my tv for vrr just to make this damn thing run half decent.

To be fair a oled screen did hide a lot of switch ones faults. Good thing Nintendo decided to ditch that with switch 2. Now we can clearly see the faults once again.

@JayJ and apparently we won’t have a 60fps ea sport soccer game since fifa legacy edition.

@Vyacheslav333 what world are you living in. Since Xbox one X I have been playing sports games in only 4k 60fps. Are there giant open world games that are 30fps. Sure. That’s not what we’re talking about here.

@Whirlwound switch 2 users are going to have a hard time dealing with these file sizes. And for 30fps Vaseline effect. Been there done that.

@electrolite77 we understand. You’ve explained it. That doesn’t mean that we’re happy with the trade off.

Also for years portables were made relatively affordable because they offered smaller games that didn’t need as much power. Here we are trying to make a portable do things it wasn’t meant to do at no longer a discounted cost.

@electrolite77 again this portable costs the same as ps5 digital in Canada. And in any world this thing costs more than a series S. But comes with half the storage so add that and a pro controller and this isn’t exactly cheap. (The fact the old sd cards don’t work is a real crusher)

Perhaps wwe makes it work because there’s less wrestlers in a ring at any time then there are basketball players on a court.

@Alex79uk the argument is this is a portable. You have to compare this to a steam deck. The problem is most are not comparing to a steam deck because that is such a small part of the market. It’s natural to compare to Xbox or PlayStation. And that’s where the disappointment is.

@Stegiand I’m not ok with either the developers or Nintendos decision to release this as the only option for Nintendo fans at the cost it would have to be to include a screen and a battery and the tech inside. If there was a tv only switch at a reduced price I’d be giving a lot more passes. But this is an expensive system so people are going to be frustrated.

@Stegiand I feel like with this system people are always going to be pointing to cyberpunk and or street fighter 6. No different than the Witcher 3 miracle port on switch. Just because one company manages to do it well doesn’t mean every company will be able to. The better metric is what’s happening generally across the board. And well that’s 1440p switch one games. So good luck with anything actually next gen.

@Misima sir. This is not a portable. It is in fact a hybrid. Neither the pros of being portable (lighter and cheaper) nor the pros of being a console (powerful and reliability). So sir there will be complaints. Please understand.

Btw the switch 2 is the same price as a ps5 digital where I’m from. So there will be comparisons. Please understand.

@Ganner it shouldn’t be hard to understand we want to commit to one eco system.

@AussieMcBucket I was being sarcastic. We’re now going to go a whole generation paying the same prices for under performing games all for the benefit of playing portable. At least in the good old days of every portable before the switch you got the games at a cheaper price than the comparable console version. Now we’re just paying for less.

Well they had to close the fruitfull conversation in the “will third party games ever just work” thread. So feel free to leave your honest disappointment here.

30fps is completely acceptable in 2025 and anyone who thinks it’s not has unrealistic expectations of this portable system that costs as much as a PlayStation digital.

Just a PSA Cyberpunk 2077 is 65% off today on Xbox. You’re welcome.

This is one rough list and again a very positive comment thread about how much new content people have to play. Very positive all around.

@OpheliaDynamight sorry. You’re right I was being hostile. On this site if you’re unhappy with the current state of Nintendo you it’s an either a you problem or you’re not a “real” fan or a troll. I’ve spent tens of thousands of dollars on Nintendo and I am frustrated by their fan base who is super protective of their favourite company. Spoiler alert it’s my favourite company too. I’m just not happy with a lot of the modern Nintendo era. Sorry for taking it out on you.

@The_Nintendo_Pedant we found the complainer

Should have had a category

Are you a complainer on the site?

Or

Are you a complainer of complainers on the site?

This is important data

@OpheliaDynamight I also would be happy if Nintendo made some smaller games. How about you remake excitebike or ice climbers. Make it affordable. Charge 20 and I’ll buy it and celebrate helping the worthy charity of Nintendo.

@Oldstalk there’s always a price to time ratio even if you think it’s art. I mean Nintendo didn’t package Kirby dlc as a new Kirby. According to some fans they should because if it’s 2-3 hours but $80 sure why the heck not. I mean that’s a pretty luxurious way of thinking. But that’s how much a sporting event is and the same length. Nintendo games for now on they should be 2-3 hours and $80 each. Winning strategy.

@OpheliaDynamight did Nintendo send you a list of all the employees that made the dlc. For all I know it’s ten people. But I didn’t buy it because I’m price conscious so didn’t see the credits. Surely you spent your hard earned money to support them in this worthy endeavour so surely you spent the two hours to get to the credits. How many people exactly?

@electrolite77 I love the level headedness of some people. But the poll speaks for itself. You can dismiss it all you want but the poll isn’t lying to you. This isn’t a great launch to the general public.

@Ade117 whose claiming 3ds had a good launch. It was over priced and the games weren’t great and it needed a heavy discount to make up for it.

Actually that kinda sounds like…

@electrolite77 the games are like 8 hours long.... there's plenty of time to moan and groan after paying $80 for them.

@AppleBlade one of the two N64 games was the most influential 3d game of all time... It is not at all like either of the two games the switch 2 launched with (MKW & DK) which will be forgotten in 6 months yet alone 20 years.

the 64 could have simply launched with Mario 64 and that still would blow away the entire switch 2 line up until Christmas. Mario 64 was easily the most impactful new 3d game at the time.... compare that to Mario kart world where people are actively loading up 8 or dk where people are complaining odyssey was better. That is a huge difference.

Super Nintendo had Super Mario world, Pilot Wings and F zero. I can't express how badly I wanted to play those games that I actively looked for a Japanese import store which was not easy to find in the 90s with no internet.

Gamecube and Wii U launch were both pretty bad....

Switch one launch I am going to argue was still better because BOTW was and is considered one of the best games ever made. Again MKW forgettable. After DK "when's the next Mario?" It isn't comparable. Yes BOTW was on Wii u as well but that was a painful death and we were all ready to move on.

So I have Super Nintendo as the best Nintendo launch. 64 as the second best and Dreamcast as THE BEST LAUNCH EVER. I remember good launches... this isn't it.

MKW and DK. Everything else is found elsewhere. Epic.

Btw MKW is trashhhhhh

Remember when everyone was telling themselves this was the greatest launch in history. Yikers that didn’t age well unless you wanted o play switch one games on a new system.

Just to be clear. This is a game that costs the same as the Kirby DLC. My lizard brain still can’t understand that Kirby price.

@electrolite77 this is beyond debatable. I didn’t just make up these things in my head. But ok. We can agree to disagree.

@electrolite77 if you keep defending Nintendo with it’s a “you problem” then you’re tone deaf. People had expectations based on what Nintendo promised them and aren’t happy. Read the room It’s simply not just me.

@electrolite77 if 4k or 60fps was miracles they shouldn’t have used that in their marketing. My goodness 120fps is a pipe dream on this console. Yet that was on full display in their marketing.

@electrolite77 great point. But I swear my Xbox one X does 4k better than my switch 2. Perhaps this system should have been able to do the previous generations pro consoles performance.