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@rjejr stocks don’t usually align with the real world. The Switch helped tremendously with confidence of investors, but the theme parks, movie studio, merchandise deals and other investments Nintendo has made is growing their value in Japan. However, even though in value they look like they’re in striking distance of Sony, they’re still not nearly their size. Hitachi is still a larger company than Nintendo, they employ about 300,000 employees and have locations all over the world. Nintendo has about 7,300 people combined with all their marketing arms. Hitachi is in many different markets, including infrastructure, trains and heavy machinery. Whereas Nintendo the focus is still interactive entertainment with seeds being planted into vertical markets in that category. Nintendo is lighter on assets compared to Hitachi as well, they don’t manufacture their hardware and it’s outsourced.

@Pillowpants with AI putting a chokehold on CPU and GPU chips, PC and gaming consoles don’t get priority with TMSC. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll see decreases in gaming or PC hardware with this new technology hogging all the silicone

The micro-transactions will flow like a mad wave into their bank accounts anyway. EA Sports prints money for them

@ParasolStars yeah, I don’t think your analysis is going to hold true. Especially when the Switch 2 has sold out around the world already for preorder. I think it will have the same staying power as the original, especially if Nintendo continues to appeal to a mass audience rather than strictly hardcore gamers.

@Yobreeze the reason Reggie left was because Nintendo wasn’t going to listen to him. Iwata made him a partner, but the Nintendo Company in Kyoto is the main mothership and they make ALL the decisions. Bowser has zero control over what they will do. He can choose to interject that some Japanese software might not translate well in the North American market, but he’s generally out of the picture compared to Reggie. Even when the Switch launcher, Reggie was pretty relegated to the same position Bowser inherited. Don’t know what you’re expecting from Nintendo of America, they’re a marketing arm of a company and have ZERO say in what Kyoto decides to do. The original Switch marked the end of collaboration across Nintendo marketing arms, it’s all done in house in Kyoto now. Frankly, I think Nintendo Co knows what they need to do to move forward and they showed it with the Switch 2.

Also, clearly the masses don’t share your opinion since they will just buy whatever games they want with their Switch 2. I doubt anyone would’ve played the Switch 2 tech demo if it was included for free. I never touched Astro on my PS5 either.

Just shows how cheap EA is when it comes to physical. I’m not hopeful that Madden will be on a cartridge now.

EDIT: Confirmed Game Key card. Now I might get it.

I have secured the MKW bundle through Walmart. Unfortunately, I could only get the regular one at Best Buy. I will be canceling one of them. Walmart was flawless after 1:00am EDT

@rjejr Target was canceling a lot of orders. I think they kept overshooting their allocation. Walmart seemed to be the winner of the night

@mlt Lexar has been around for a very long time. I knew them for their printers originally, but they have a wider offering than that now. I’d say they’re reputable. Amazon is sold out of the Lexar 512 GB and 1TB at the moment, but Samsung is making the official Nintendo cards which will be available at launch (256GB is the only one I can find).

@Danrenfroe2016 you can disagree, but the numbers don’t lie. Most Switch owners play in this space, doesn’t matter if I like it or not. Most people who I know own a Switch might be console gamers, but they haven’t owned a PC in over a decade and rather use phones and tablets over them. It’s likely they won’t pick a handheld PC of any kind due to the time investment in learning the device, whereas Android and iOS make it easier versus Windows, macOS and the many flavors of Linux. I don’t care how much they claim “console like interface,” you still have to play with the settings on the game and device. Whereas the Switch, plus mobile devices, are easier experiences for the non-tech and gamer variety. Which casual gamers outnumber hardcore ones.

@Guitario only one company has 1TB card too. Lexar is the top one at the moment, I was hoping Samsung and SanDisk would have it too

@FreasurePlanten NL doesn’t have much of bias toward Nintendo anymore. They still perpetuate the rumor that the Steam Deck is a platform (which it isn’t) worth looking at for the non-PC crowd. They refused to cover big AAA games coming to iOS, even though the Switch audience would likely see their phones and tablets as gaming options over a handheld PC.

I think they want to become a site devoted to PC handhelds, but they don’t want to switch since they’d lose 90% of their readers.

@Friendly we don’t even know the release date yet except 2025

@rjejr Marathon (2025) is coming to the PC, PS5 and Xbox Series systems. I know Sony owns Bungie, but I guess they want the studio to maximize its profit on this title. It’s a rumor and hasn’t been confirmed.

Why would tariffs play into software development? That’s not what I was referring to at all.

Nintendo only likes the politics of money, what it will cost them and profit to be made. China’s political climate concerns them very little. Especially when China, Japan and South Korea have buried the past recently amongst their countries with a new trade arrangements in response to the US tariffs. Also, Activision Blizzard is an American publisher, which is owned by Microsoft now.

Diablo 4 not coming to the original Switch was likely a technical issue on different fronts: power and online. That’s what I was referencing. Nintendo only cares about social politics if there is an overwhelming worldwide agreement. Russia invading Ukraine was enough to get them to close their marketing arm in that country in response.

I don’t care what 3 million users who own the Steam Deck think of the Switch 2. That’s like asking someone to think how their laptop compares to a tablet.

@rjejr wouldn’t say politics as it might be a limitation with some APIs or services for developers/publishers when it comes to certain live services games. Diablo IV I think will make its way to the Switch 2, but I doubt Destiny 2 will come over; rumor is Marathon (2025) is coming though

@nuke13 I haven't bought an Amiibo since 2018 or 2019. Not that I think they're pricey, I just don't believe I need them at all. I feel they're more targetted to those collectors who may want a bit more out of their figure.

None of these Amiibo figures interested me anyway. I don't have a perceived vision of what these should cost. These don't have a high value to myself personally, but to people who love them they might view this increase as due to the tariffs and other outside factors.

Also, I believe these sell enough for Nintendo to continue to make them, but not at a volume enough to keep the price of entry low.

Judging from some of the follow up comments, it looks like it's exclusive to these newer Amiibos and not the existing line up as @Friendly has mentioned.

@Varkster yes, their pollution has made it far worse to filter out the noise. As an Apple fan, there are so many people who will bootlick MaxTech and Luke Miani for their purchases (or so they claim). From my view, they're super cringe artists and they make a lot of profit off of people who choose not to do research themselves.

Since you're in the space... Clearly there's a market to sell people sawdust in capsule form there too. Have you considered vitamin supplements for your gaming audience?

@LastFootnote still isn’t going to stop collectors from buying them. I think if it was a $20-30 increase, then it would’ve caused a bigger stir.

I know Amiibos aren’t mass manufactured compared to other Nintendo branded accessories. Guess I’m not surprised these went up in price. They’re likely manufactured in China too

@Varkster it has been an echo chamber of trash and outrage for about a decade

@NinChocolate I’m thinking content updates similar to Splatoon might be rolled out. Something Nintendo will likely announce in a Direct post release. I don’t think paid DLC will likely happen until MKW crosses MK8D territory

Definitely a lot of game. I don’t think it can be totally completed casually either. I think I’ll be playing MKW for quite some time.

@Joekun wow. Sorry about your SD card issues. That can be frustrating and I understand the need for physical.

I’ve been using Sandisk and haven’t had a single issue. Been using a 1TB one and it keeps coming back for more.

@Joekun just buy the $9.99 upgrade on the eShop. Save yourself the money, unless you really want red cards and cases.

@Anti-Matter we knew you weren’t going to buy it anyway, I’m not surprised by your response. Since you like to announce your decisions, I’m going to say mine.

I’m still going to buy it on day one. My PS5 got replaced by a PC.

@TheBlueCatMenace Sony cares way more about profit and bottom line. This isn’t the first price increase on the PS5 internationally either.

@Dev-N I mean, probably half of the crowd who participates in conversations on this hobby. I'd say over 80-90% of the Switch audience just didn't talk with people like us.

I don't expect it to be a top seller, but it will sell better than 1,2 Switch.

@TrogdorTheBurninator save yourself some money and buy it used, then get the $10 upgrade and think about the DLC. I have it, but I don’t really remember using it or playing it(?)

I’d recommend to anyone that wants to buy Zelda BotW and TotK for the new Switch, just get your copies now and just pay for the $10 upgrade fee for upgrade pack. If you have NSO Online plus Expansion, the packs are included with the membership at no additional charge (plus all the other services).

Honestly, I completely forgot about the DLC for this game 😂

@Stwert plus, we haven’t heard the whole story yet. I think the MKW Direct is going to say Nintendo will be providing free content updates for next 2-3 years for the game rather than DLC. MK8D was never supposed to have additional tracks, but when it’s your top game you tend to review what needs to be the next generation. From the videos I’ve watched, MKW will definitely be worth its price tag.

Also, Zelda TotK never got any additional DLC and it was the only $69.99 game on the Switch.

@Duncanballs just waiting for them to announce the new preorder window in the US. I think the pending tariffs had them scrambling inventory around logistically to fit the demand. With the 90 day pause, I guess we could be hearing any day now.

@HRdepartment are you living in Europe? MKW physical in the US will be $80.

@Xbox_Dashboard and that’s why you’re a consumer and not someone who can mass market

While I could really care less about what these two have to say anymore. If they disliked working for NOA so much, they sure are still profiting off of it. They've become the Nintendo-cringe of YouTube.

With that out of the way, I don't think it would be a "no-no," but not very likely we'll get DLC for MKW. Zelda Tear of the Kingdom didn't get any DLC for its price tag, they said it was the finished game. Now, I don't think MKW is fully finished, but I would think we're going to be waiting A LONG time for any kind of paid DLC to this game.

Then again, Microsoft is able to do so many packs for the Forza games. To get the full version of Horizon 5, you had to pay $99.99 for the premium edition.

I’m surprised this isn’t a Switch 2 Edition game. I don’t see why this game couldn’t run on the original Switch.

@the_beaver Sony is doing the same thing with the PS4 to PS5 titles. Sometimes not offering an option either and making you pay full price again.

I find humorous that Nintendo has to giveaway their company to make people happy, but everyone gets finger pointed at if you don’t buy two copies of Spider-Man on PlayStation and/or PC.

If you have NSO+Expansion, then it’s part of your service at launch and you don’t need to pay for it separately.

@Jeronan more than likely an OLED model will be out in a few years if the tech is reasonably priced. I think Nintendo isn’t big on having high priced devices in their family of systems.

@mario-64 that and they didn’t have HDR as Kawamoto mentioned. A smaller panel like that would’ve added a bit to the cost. Hopefully in the next few years, those OLED panels will come down in cost.

The masses aren’t going to care what people like us say at the prices. Patcher might be right for a change. The price hike hasn’t hurt Sony, so if Nintendo’s messaging to the wider audience is clear the Switch 2 and its family of systems will be hot sellers. Nintendo is being smart by not calling it a console. If they’re able to tap the smartphone buying habit, they’ll have people upgrading every 4-8 years.

People who likely bought a launch (and V2) Switch will likely jump to it. When the Lite gets upgraded in a couple years, those users will jump and an OLED variant too.

@Axecon it’s priced at $69.99 for release day. Not every Switch game is going to be $79.99. DK Bonanza is going to be $69.99.

The Switch 2 Edition games for $79.99 likely include the original game plus the Upgrade Pack contents. I’m guessing this branding means cross-gen titles.

@Tyranexx the Lite will likely get upgraded to the Switch 2 in a couple of years, plus I think an OLED model will be a revision in the future. I’m still thinking Nintendo will offer a Shield TV device this time around too.

@rushiosan Shadow Warrior out of the box drained my old Steam Deck in an hour. My Legion Go fared slightly better. Outer Worlds on the Deck was under an hour.

Indie titles ran much longer.

However, I’m happy I got rid of it. It was too much work playing the balancing game for every game in my library. My PC library is better off being played on my Ryzen 7 5800X with 4070 than any handheld PC.

@StewdaMegaManNerd Welcome Center looks like it would be fun techno-babble for a nerd like me. Especially the tech demos Nintendo would likely show off, but never release to the public previously. However, I’m not sure I’m going to buy it either personally as I might replay certain old games from my library first along with MKW.

Whereas 1,2 Switch is a party game of tech demos to show off the Joycons.

Forgot to mention, I completely agree with your take on the OG Switch release against the PS4/XB1 on the previous post.

@IronMan30 thankfully the expansion pass will allow me to upgrade those two Zelda games, but I might do it for Tears since I never played it as much as Breath.

I completely agree with you on feeling good. However, since Nintendo revealed the Switch games run on an emulation layer (I guess Nintendo’s version Rosetta), it will be interesting to see how they will perform on the new hardware. I think we’ll all get an upgrade in performance for our current games, we just won’t reap the benefits of complete integration with the new hardware.

@IOI emulation layers allow for the software to play natively on hardware it wasn’t made for. I think it’s a better choice than including some piece of hardware to play Switch games on the device.

Essentially, Nintendo developed their own emulation layer for the Switch similar to how Apple made Rosetta for its hardware transitions on the Mac.

Or similar to the Xbox with emulating OG and 360 games.

This might be a better option since the software would be flexible rather than booting into a separate environment like the previous Nintendo systems used to do (Wii U booted into the Wii for its games).

@StewdaMegaManNerd people paid full price for 1,2 Switch… I think this one looks to be a better value over that one

@IronMan30 feels like it could be a combination of things that got Nintendo to this price.

Unless there’s a reason they’re charging $80 for additional content rather than a DLC price later. It’s crazy that people will happily pay $50 for a Call of Duty Battle Pass, or some of these other ridiculous fees from Overwatch, Fortnite and other pay to play services that could easily dwarf MKW price tag. I’ll wait until the Direct to discern the value of the game. It’s unusual if MKW is $80, but not DK Bonanza?

There’s an easy way around “Switch 2 Editions,” just buy the original Switch version if you can find it and then buy the Upgrade Pack if you want it. I won’t be upgrading all of my Switch games, but Kirby is the top candidate in my library for it. I mean, Nintendo is bringing these old Switch titles up to the Switch 2 feature set and if you own it it’s an extra $10-15 if you want it. Otherwise, I’m sure they’re going to have a performance patch that will allow the original Switch game to be upconverted in that form.

@Wadeimous wow. One would think Nintendo would let each user name in a family membership be able to reserve a spot for one. Damn scalpers, they made life so difficult if you want something you like.

I’ve heard other retailers made have some hard restrictions in place. GameStop is rumored to be one per user name; or something like that. Best Buy is doing a 12:01am opening on June 5th for the device (which seems unheard of today).