More Switch Titles Get Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility Fixes

Compatibility? Hmmm. Sounds a lot like STABILITY to me.

The Marvel vs Capcom Collection has also been updated, and is now available to purchase on the Switch 2 eShop.

Yeah, I tried Grid the other night, but it would crash at the Feral screen on startup. After this update I tried it again and ran just fine or at least I finished a race... then it locked up again at some page that would not load. So, I guess it's not completely fixed maybe EA should fix that. yeah right.

I hope once all these bugs are fixed, they can start working on enhancement patches to increase resolution/framerate for switch 1 games

They also fixed mvc fighting collection and fighting collection 2. I got both on switch so I can now play both with no problems.

Glad to see Nintendo is taking steps to ensure backwards compatibility is as smooth as possible

Would be nice if they weren't so lazy and patch all of their first party games...

Love how diligent they are with these patches and updates. Making the migration to switch 2 as smooth as possible.

This is why I’m waiting. If it was fully natively backwards compatible I would have jumped in day one.

Very good. Keep the train rolling.

@slowpoke_tail for previous backward compatibility on older Nintendo hardware, they previously just included the hardware to needed to run the games. For example, the GBA had GB hardware built inside to play those games. There were NO improvements and games just ran in their original states. Same thing with GBA games on the DS, the slot at the bottom was GBA hardware on board the DS. DS to 3DS as well. Each new system, Nintendo quietly dropped the previous generation that the new one supported. 3DS couldn't play GBA games and the DS couldn't play GB/GBC ones. With the GC to Wii, it was a little different, but essentially the system would flip to the GC environment side of the system. However, later Wii consoles dropped GC support, which is why the Wii U never had it; even though it was based on the same CPU. For Wii games, the Wii U had essentially a Wii portion of the system that ran.

Again, you have to picture it as the old system was built into the new one. There were no improvements, whereas the Switch 2 has a translation layer to convert the code to run on the hardware. This allows opportunities for improvements or building out new versions from the existing code. Similar to how Intel macOS apps run on the M-series Macs.

Sony used to do the same from with PS2 and PS1, but it was too expensive with the PS3 having two previous generations so it was dropped for PS1 software emulation and PS2 was eliminated.

Does MHS2 have any upgrades on the switch 2? I’m really curious.

Hopefully these will patch out the terrible time I'm having with certain Nintendo classics not downloading and weird issues with all games disappearing from the home screen after exiting the eShop.

It’s good that they’re able and proactive about fixing these on their end, on PS5 the very few game that had serious issues under BC were solely reliant on the game’s devs making a patch.

@progx great explanation

I really don’t understand what’s keeping the Xenoblades so long

Does anybody know if the emulation causes additional input latency?

@PinderSchloss If they want to really improve these games, I think quite some work will be needed, not just increasing resolution like they did for the upgrades already released. I would not be surprised if these updates were not free, like the ones for BotW and TotK.

Switch 2 had more "fixing news" than all Nintendo consoles ever combined.

Thanks for the update. Glad to see the Capcom fighting collections fixed!

Now make it so Xenoblade X doesn't constantly disconnect from the internet.

Also Yomawari, Remothered: Tormented Fathers, Grid Autosport are now officially supported.
Dragon's Lair trilogy, KOTOR 2, Chronocross, South Park: the fractured but whole and Trover Saves the Universe seem to run fine too here now, I wonder why they are still considered unsupported.
The real mystery is why Crypt of the Necrodancer crashes on startup while Cadence of Hyrule runs just fine and is fully supported.

Nier Automata is still incompatible, according to the S2 store. Same with Chrono Cross.

Dangit.

@thaimbomb Agreed. It's been YEARS they were planning this and they have just over 2900 employees in Japan alone. They should do an effort and speed this up. I truly hope they don't leave us hanging with lots of their games like Mario Tennis, Golf Super Rush, and many others.

I see other small companies with 3 developers pushing out giant patches (adding new features, fixing bugs, etc., about 50 changelog items) for their game in 2 months. Nintendo is a huge company and hardly updates their games.

@PinderSchloss - They'll fib and say we had no idea they were planning a Switch 2 for 4 years.

They need to update all 4 of their games. This should have already been done since they're owned by them.

Very cool they're getting these games running. Very tempted to get the MvC collection now.

@Greatluigi The frame rate is much better now (60 FPS), it plays fantastic.

@dskatter I played Nier Automata on the Switch 2 yesterday, and it ran without any issues. The FPS seems to have improved as well, it felt like it was solid 30 all the time with no drops.

@Hyrule049 Really? Nice! I was never one to complain about frame rates but holy cow that game has a lot of frame rate dips.

@Polvasti Well that’s good! I’m leery of dropping money on it in the eShop (since I CAN’T on the S2, I’d have to use the web!) until it’s confirmed fixed by Squeenix or Nintendo. It’s mostly a triple-dip situation anyway, since I have the PS disc and digitally on XBox already.

@Ramouz It's not that simple I'd imagine. These are games the developers haven't touched in years. They have to refamiliarize themselves with each game and find out what it is about the code that's causing problems on the Switch 2 and how to fix it while also keeping the Switch 1 in mind. Players can cause scenarios they don't expect so they have to test thoroughly.

And the developers that worked on certain games may be unavailable or busy, so new developers have to get acquainted with things and that can take even more time.

@Athropos I don’t know. These games were always on platforms that couldn’t quite make them shine. Just leave everything like it is, with the resolution and performance it always deserved.
We don’t need more blades of grass while the Switch 2 turns into a furnace : )

@Paddle1 You're right, but I am referring to Nintendo games (all Nintendo games), but true, they do own multiple companies or work with third-party ones. Here's hoping they can achieve that though .

Portal 2 and GRID Autosport can be prevented from crashin on startup by enabling Flight Mode then turning it off once you made it into the main menu.

Unfortunately I've noticed a few glitches with backwards compatibility emulation. Skyrim will suddenly do audio glitches with a random burst of digital noise. It happened 3 times to me over a 25~ minute session. I've scanned the software for corrupted data, but the system didn't find anything. I'll still try redownloading to see if that helps at all. It wasn't a big deal, but generally when I'm sneaking around in a dungeon feeling tense and hanging on every audio cue to get the jump on enemy characters waiting to attack me, hearing a sudden, loud burst of digital noise was quite unnerving!

Kind of sucks that games like Skyrim won't be fixed on Nintendo's side, and Bethesda is more than likely focused entirely on more pressing projects.

@progx - Actually, the Wii U can play GameCube games natively because of the Wii backwards compatiblility. Obviously, this requires jailbreaking the Wii U and installing GameCube roms.

If Nintendo had added disc drives that could read GCN games, it would have played them with no issue. I have a jailbroken Wii U and imported roms of games I own and they play flawlessly.

@mattitudemf Native compatibility with Wii and GC plus HDMI makes the Wii U a gem, same for 3DS and its compatibility with DS and GBA. ✌🏻

@SirLink Same issue with Crypt of the NecroDancer. I guess it's time to try out Cadence of Hyrule!

Rift of the NecroDancer is fine on Switch 2.

@Banjo- How do you play GameCube games on Wii U? That would be a game changer for me due to the HDMI output (assuming I didn't need custom firmware or the defunct Wii U eShop?)

@blecch You need to soft mod the console using a definitive guide on Gbatemp. I even dumped my own discs using a Wii, as Wii U doesn't read Gamcube discs.The interesting thing about this is that Wii U has Wii and Gamecube circuitry inside, so it's native compatibility, unlike Switch 2. Nintendo never officially unlocked this capability, but it's there in every Wii U. Wii U is a 3-in-1 console, with the added bonus of HDMI that Wii and Gamecube don't have.